Pro and Con 1095

Posted 2-8-04

The Binary Asteroid Toutatis Will Come Close to Earth 9-25-2004

The dots converge, but Toutatis' orbit takes it below the plane of Earth's orbit.
http://neo.jpl.nasa.gov/cgi-bin/db?name=4179

Someone asked for a list of the Names of God. That triggered my thoughts on the subject.

By Marilyn Agee

"Who is the I AM?" From the burning bush, "God (Elohim) said unto Moses, I AM THAT I AM (hayah asher hayah): and he said, Thus shalt thou say unto the children of Israel, I AM hath sent me unto you" (Ex. 3:14).

In a list of names of God are El, singular, Eloh, dual, and Elohim, three or more. That's very interesting. Then Elohim suggests the triune Godhead in the first sentence of Scripture. "IN THE BEGINNING God (Elohim) created the heaven (lit., heavens) and the earth."

The Son of God, the Pre-incarnate Christ, was in on this. John 1:1-3,14 says, "IN THE BEGINNING was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. The same was IN THE BEGINNING with God. All things were made by him; and without him was not any thing made that was made....And the Word was made flesh, and dwelt among us, (and we beheld his glory, the glory as of the only begotten of the Father,) full of grace and truth."

When researching Genesis 1:2, I found out that in Hebrew, when "hayah" (to be, exist, become) is expressed, it denotes change. When it is not used, it is to be supplied by the reader, and there is no change indicated. In Gen. 1:2, "the earth WAS without form, and void." Hayah is used. Therefore "was" actually means that Earth BECAME waste and desolation, because there was a change. Everything that God created in the beginning was good, but something happened to bring about a change.

Then does "I AM THAT I AM" (hayah asher hayah) denote a change of some kind? Could it mean something like I AM WHO I WILL BECOME? Could the one that spoke from the midst of the burning bush be the Son of God, the Pre-incarnate Christ?

Ex. 3:13-18, in the Stone Edition Tanach says, "'What is His Name?' --what shall I say to them?" HASHEM answered Moses, "I SHALL BE AS I SHALL BE" And He said, "So shall you say to the Children of Israel, I SHALL BE has sent me to you.' God said further to Moses, "So shall you say to the Children of Israel, 'HASHEM the God of your forefathers, the God of Abraham, the God of Isaac, and the God of Jacob has dispatched me to you. THIS IS MY NAME FOREVER, AND THIS IS MY REMEMBRANCE FROM GENERATION TO GENERATION.' Go and gather the elders of Israel and say to them, 'HASHEM, the God of your forefathers, has appeared to me, the God of Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob, saying, "I have surely remembered you and what is done to you in Egypt."' And I have said, 'I shall bring you up from the affliction of Egypt to the land of the Canaanite, the Hittite, the Amorite, the Perizzite, the Hivvite, and the Jebusite, to a land flowing with milk and honey.' "They will heed your voice. You and the elders of Israel shall come to the king of Egypt and say to him, 'HASHEM, the God of the Hebrews, happened upon us."

Their substitution of "HASHEM" for YHVH obscures the truth, but their translation of "hayah asher hayah" as "I SHALL BE AS I SHALL BE" seems reasonable.

In John 8:58,59, Jesus said, "Verily, verily (amen, amen; so be it; i.e., look at this, it's important), I say unto you, Before Abraham was, I AM. Then took they up stones to cast at him: but Jesus hid himself, and went out of the temple, going through the midst of them, and so passed by." He demonstrated his power by being hidden from them as he was going through the midst of them.

Jesus Christ was the "I AM" before Abraham was born. Therefore, the Pre-incarnate Christ was the "I AM" in Moses' day.

At the burning bush Ex. 3:13-17, Moses said, "WHAT IS HIS NAME? what shall I say unto them? And God (Elohim) said unto Moses, I AM THAT I AM: and he said, Thus shalt thou say unto the children of Israel, I AM hath sent me unto you. And God (Elohim) said moreover unto Moses, Thus shalt thou say unto the children of Israel, the LORD (YHVH) God (Elohim) of your fathers, THE GOD (Elohim) OF ABRAHAM, the God (Elohim) of Isaac, and the God (Elohim) of Jacob, hath sent me unto you: THIS IS MY NAME FOR EVER, and this is my memorial unto all generations. Go, and gather the elders of Israel together, and say unto them, The LORD (YHVH) God (Elohim) of your fathers, the God (Elohim) of Abraham, of Isaac, and of Jacob, APPEARED UNTO ME, saying, I have surely visited you, and seen that which is done to you in Egypt: And I have said, I will bring you up out of the affliction of Egypt unto the land of the Canaanites."

John 1:18 says, "No man hath seen God at any time, the only begotten Son, which is in the bosom of the Father, he hath DECLARED HIM." Therefore, when the LORD God appeared to man, it was the Son of God that was seen. When the Angel of the Lord appeared to Abraham, it was the Son of God. He is the one that has dealt with mankind all along. Yet, the use of Elohim in Ex. 3:13-17 shows that the triune united Godhead was there.

"Elohim" - "God." Elohim is the most common name that is translated as "God." It comes from a root that means "strength, might, power." It is used over 2,300 times in the Scriptures to refer to the God of Israel. Elohim is unusual since it is plural. It can also be translated as "gods." Exodus 12:12 refers to "all the elohim (gods) of Egypt." This plural name that is used for the One God opens the door for the revelation of the plural yet single nature of God that is more fully revealed in the rest of the Scriptures. When Elohim is combined with other words, different attributes of God are emphasized.

Gen 18:1,2 says, "the LORD (YHVH) APPEARED unto him (Abraham) in the plains of Mamre: and he sat in the tent door in the heat of the day; And he lift up his eyes and looked, and, lo, three men (the Angel of the LORD and two angels) stood by him". Since the LORD appeared to Abraham, it was the Angel of the Lord, the pre-incarnate Christ, the Son of God that Abraham saw.

Gen 18:16-18 says, "And the men rose up from thence, and looked toward Sodom: and Abraham went with them to bring them on the way. And the LORD (YHVH) said, Shall I hide from Abraham that thing which I do; Seeing that Abraham shall surely become a great and mighty nation, and all the nations of the earth shall be blessed in him?"

The Son of God is not separate from the Godhead, but he is the one that appears to mankind. In John 8:29, Jesus said, "he that sent me is with me: the Father hath not left me alone." John 6:46 says, "Not that any man hath seen the Father, save he which is of God, he hath seen the Father.

In John 10:30, Jesus said, "I and my Father are one." In John 14:9, "Jesus saith unto him, Have I been so long time with you, and yet hast thou not known me, Philip? he that hath seen me hath seen the Father; and how sayest thou then, Shew us the Father?" I John 2:23 says, "Whosoever denieth the Son, the same hath not the Father: he that acknowledgeth the Son hath the Father also."

The Spirit of God is the Spirit of Christ. Rom 8:9 says, "ye are not in the flesh, but in the Spirit, if so be that the SPIRIT OF GOD dwell in you. Now if any man have not the SPIRIT OF CHRIST, he is none of his." Jesus Christ is the one that baptizes the believer with the Spirit of Christ. He is the Saviour of mankind.

II Cor. 5:19 says, "God was in Christ, reconciling the world unto himself."

Heb. 1:1-8 says, "God, who at sundry times and in divers manners spake in time past unto the fathers by the prophets, Hath in these last days spoken unto us by (en, in) his Son, whom he hath appointed heir of all things, BY WHOM ALSO HE MADE THE WORLDS; Who being the brightness of his glory, and the express image of his person, and upholding all things by the word of his power, WHEN HE HAD BY HIMSELF PURGED OUR SINS, sat down on the right hand of the Majesty on high: Being made so much better than the angels, as he hath by inheritance obtained a more excellent name than they. For unto which of the angels said he at any time, Thou art my Son, this day have I begotten thee? And again, I will be to him a Father, and he shall be to me a Son? And again, when he bringeth in the firstbegotten into the world, he saith, And let all the angels of God worship him. And of the angels he saith, Who maketh his angels spirits, and his ministers a flame of fire. But unto the Son he saith, Thy throne, O GOD, is for ever and ever: a sceptre of righteousness is the sceptre of thy kingdom."

"Hear, O Israel:" De. 6:4 says, "The LORD (YHVH) our God (Elohim, meaning three) is one (echad, united) LORD (YHVH)." Truly, the Godhead is the united Father, Son and Holy Spirit, the three in one.

Scripture speaks of the Godhead. Acts 17:29 says, "Forasmuch then as we are the offspring of God, we ought not to think that THE GODHEAD is like unto gold, or silver, or stone, graven by art and man's device."

Rom. 1:20 says, "For the invisible things of him from the creation of the world are clearly seen, being understood by the things that are made, even his eternal power and GODHEAD; so that they are without excuse".

Rev. 22:3,4 says of Heaven, "there shall be no more curse: but the throne (one throne) of God and of the Lamb (Christ, the Lamb of God) shall be in it; and his servants shall serve him: And they shall see his face (one face, that of the Son, the Lamb of God); and his name (one name) shall be in their foreheads." It looks like we will still see God in the face of Jesus Christ in Heaven.

In Rev 1:8, Jesus said, "I am Alpha and Omega, the beginning and the ending, saith the Lord, which is, and which was, and which is to come, the Almighty."

1John 5:7 says, "there are three that bear record in heaven, the Father, the Word, and the Holy Ghost: and THESE THREE ARE ONE."

Col 2:9 says, "in him (Jesus Christ) dwelleth ALL THE FULNESS OF THE GODHEAD BODILY."

Heb 13:8 says, "Jesus Christ the same yesterday, and to day, and for ever."

Isaiah 48:16: "I have not spoken in secret from the beginning; From the time that it was, there am I; and now the Lord God (the Father), and his Spirit (the Holy Spirit), hath sent me" (the Son).

The apostles were "baptizing them in the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Ghost" (Matthew 28:19). The three are united. The word "name" is singular.

The same LORD who revealed Himself as "YHVH" (Yahweh), "Yah" and "I AM THAT I AM" in the Old Testament is revealed as "Jesus" (Yahshua/ Y'shua/ Yeshua), "Emmanuel" (God with us) and "I AM" in the New Testament. Yet, he existed before Abraham.

Jesus said, "now, O Father, glorify thou me with thine own self with the glory which I had with thee BEFORE THE WORLD WAS" (John 17:5).

He existed from "olam," eternity. One of the names of God is El-Olam, the everlasting God. "In the beginning God (Elohim) created the heaven and the earth", and the Creator preceded his creation.

In Gen 1:26,27, "God (Elohim) said, Let US (the three in one) make man in OUR image, after OUR likeness: and let them have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the air, and over the cattle, and over all the earth, and over every creeping thing that creepeth upon the earth. So God (Elohim) created man in his own image (tselem, fig., illusion, resemblance, hence a representative figure), in the image of God (Elohim) created he him; male and female created he them." Adam was three in one, body, soul and spirit.

John 6:27 tells us the Father is God. It says, " Labour not for the meat which perisheth, but for that meat which endureth unto everlasting life, which the Son of man shall give unto you: for him hath GOD THE FATHER sealed."

The Lord Jesus Christ is God. Heb. 1:8 says, "unto the Son he (God the Father) saith, Thy throne, O God, is for ever and ever: a sceptre of righteousness is the sceptre of thy kingdom."

Acts 5:3-4 teaches that the Holy Spirit is also God. "Peter said, Ananias, why hath Satan filled thine heart to lie to the HOLY GHOST, and to keep back part of the price of the land? Whiles it remained, was it not thine own? and after it was sold, was it not in thine own power? why hast thou conceived this thing in thine heart? thou hast not lied unto men, but unto GOD."

All three members of the Godhead can be recognized in Mt. 3:16,17. "After being baptized, Jesus went up immediately from the water; and behold, the heavens were opened, and he saw the Spirit of God descending as a dove, and coming upon Him, and behold, a voice out of the heavens, saying, ‘This is My beloved Son, in whom I am well pleased". As the Spirit came upon the Son, the Father’s voice was heard from Heaven expressing His approval. It was another powerful testimony to the eternal triune Godhead.

Isaiah 48:12-18 says, "Hearken unto me, O Jacob and Israel, my called; I am he; I am the first (YHVH King of Israel), I also am the last (YHVH of hosts, the Redeemer, Isa. 44:6). Mine hand also hath laid the foundation of the earth, and my right hand hath spanned the heavens: when I call unto them, they stand up together. All ye, assemble yourselves, and hear; which among them hath declared these things? The LORD (YHVH) hath loved him: he will do his pleasure on Babylon, and his arm shall be on the Chaldeans. I, even I, have spoken; yea, I have called him: I have brought him, and he shall make his way prosperous. Come ye near unto me, hear ye this; I (the Son of God) have not spoken in secret FROM THE BEGINNING; FROM THE TIME THAT IT WAS, THERE AM I: and now the Lord GOD (the Father), and his Spirit, hath sent ME, the Son of God, the Pre-incarnate Christ). Thus saith the LORD (YHVH), THY REDEEMER, the Holy One of Israel; I AM the LORD (YHVH) thy God (Elohim, meaning three) which teacheth thee to profit, which leadeth thee by the way that thou shouldest go. O that thou hadst hearkened to MY COMMANDMENTS (i.e., those given by the Pre-incarnate Christ at Mt. Sinai)! then had thy peace been as a river, and thy righteousness as the waves of the sea".

Phil. 2:8-11 says, "being found in fashion as a man, he (Jesus) humbled himself, and became obedient unto death, even the death of the cross. Wherefore God also hath highly exalted him, and GIVEN HIM A NAME WHICH IS ABOVE EVERY NAME: That at the name of Jesus every knee should bow, of things in heaven, and things in earth, and things under the earth; And that every tongue should CONFESS THAT JESUS CHRIST IS LORD, to the glory of God the Father."

Here are some of the names that apply to God.

 El  Elohim  El  Elyon  El Roi  El  Shaddai
 El  Bethel  El  Berith  Adonai  Abba  El 'Olam
 Yahweh  Yahweh  Jireh  Yahweh  Nissi  Yahweh  Shalom  Yahweh  Shammah
 Yahweh  Tsidkenu  Yahweh  Ro'i  Yahweh  Elohim  Yahweh  Rapha  Yahweh  Sabbaoth

The names have meanings. Here are some of them.

El Olam, The Everlasting God, The Eternal God
Olam, from the root 'lm, eternity, means forever, eternity, or everlasting.
El Roi, The Lord Our Shepherd
Elohim, God, Judge, Creator
El Shaddai, The All-Sufficient One, Lord God Almighty
El Elyon, The Most High God
Adonai, Lord, Master
Yahweh, Lord, The Existing One
Yahweh O'saynu, The LORD our Maker
Yahweh Nissi, The Lord My Banner
Yahweh Raah, The Lord My Shepherd
Yahweh Rapha, The Lord that Heals
Yahweh Shammah, The Lord Is There
Yahweh Tsidkenu, The Lord our Righteousness
Yahweh Mekoddishkem, The Lord who Sanctifies You
Yahweh Shalom, The Lord of Peace
Jehovah Sabaoth, The Lord of Hosts, Powers, Armies

Jesus showed that he had the essence of God, perfect agape love, perfect justice, omniscience (John 11:11-14; Mark 11:6-8) and omnipotence. Mt. 28:18 says, "Jesus came and spake unto them, saying, ALL POWER IS GIVEN UNTO ME IN HEAVEN AND IN EARTH."

In Gen. 17:1, the Almighty is God.
In Rev. 1:7-8, Jesus is the Almighty.
Therefore, Jesus is God.

In Isaiah 44:6, the "First and the Last" is God.
In Rev. 22:13 Jesus is the "First and the Last."
Therefore, Jesus is God.

In De. 10:17, the "LORD OF LORDS" is God.
In Rev. 19:16, Jesus is "LORD OF LORDS.
Therefore, Jesus is God.

In Isa. 45:23 every knee must bow to God.
In Phil. 2:10, every knee must bow to Jesus.
Therefore, Jesus is God.

In Isa. 44:6, the "KING OF ISRAEL" is God.
In John 1:49, Jesus is "KING OF ISRAEL".
Therefore, Jesus is God.

Rom 9:5 says, "and of whom as concerning the flesh Christ came, who is over all, God blessed for ever. Amen."

Note: There are many meanings for the names of God in the following article, and the author believes in Yeshua. I can only give you a sample of what you will find at this web site.

THE NAMES, TITLES AND DESCRIPTIONS FOR GOD

By Rabbi Loren Jacobs, Congregation Shema Yisrael
http://www.shema.com/modules.php?name=News&file=article&sid=150

Elohim is the first name for God found in the Tenach (Old Testament). It is in Genesis 1:1 and is the third word of the Hebrew Scriptures: In the beginning "Elohim" - "God." Elohim is the most common name that is translated as "God." It comes from a root that means "strength, might, power." It is used over 2,300 times in the Scriptures to refer to the God of Israel. Elohim is unusual since it is plural. It can also be translated as "gods." Exodus 12:12 refers to "all the elohim (gods) of Egypt." This plural name that is used for the One God opens the door for the revelation of the plural yet single nature of God that is more fully revealed in the rest of the Scriptures....

"Eloah" is the singular of Elohim, so it too comes from a root that means strength, might or power. It is used 50 times in the Bible. It too is translated as "God."...

"YHVH" is a name that is generally translated "Lord." It is used approximately 7000 times in the Tenach (Hebrew Scriptures), more than any other name for God. It is also referred to as the "Tetragrammaton," which means "The Four Letters," because it comes from four Hebrew letters: Yud, Hay, Vav, Hay. This name comes from the Hebrew verb which means "to be." YHVH emphasizes God's absolute being. He has life and being inherent in Himself. Everything else derives its being from Him. The Lord is the source of all being, all existence and all reality. He is without beginning and without end because He always was, He is, and He always will be.

Even though YHVH appears in Genesis 2, God didn't reveal Himself as YHVH until Exodus 3 in conjunction with the creation of Israel. This is the special memorial-name that God revealed to Moses at the burning bush. "And God said to Moses, "I Am Who I Am; and He said, thus you shall say to the sons of Israel, I Am has sent me to you... this is My eternal name, and this is how I am to be recalled for all generations" (Exodus 3:14-15)....

The Jewish people stopped saying this name by the third century AD out of fear of violating the commandment, "You shall not take the name of YHVH your God in vain" (Exodus 20:7), and we lost the knowledge of its proper pronunciation. According to the rabbis, the Tetragrammaton may not be pronounced under any circumstances. Another name, "Adonai," is usually substituted in place of YHVH....

YESHUA IS YHVH
The same Lord who revealed Himself as YHVH in the Tenach is revealed as Yeshua in the New Testament. Yeshua shares the same attributes as YHVH. He has life in Himself: "For just as the Father has life in Himself, even so He gave to the Son also to have life in Himself" (John 5:26). He gives existence to and sustains all other things: “All things came into being by Him” (John 1:3). "He is before all things, and in Him all things hold together" (Colossians 1:17). "He upholds all things by the word of His power" (Hebrews 1:3). In addition, the Son of God claimed to be Adonai. When asked by some Jewish leaders how He could have seen Abraham, who lived 2,000 years before, Yeshua replied: "Truly, truly, I say to you, before Abraham was born, I Am” (John 8:58), I Am being an essential part of the Tetragrammaton....

Calling on Yeshua as Lord is equivalent to calling Him YHVH, because Yeshua is YHVH. In fact, the powerful title, Adonai Tzidkaynu - the Lord our Righteousness, is prophetically applied to the Messiah (Jeremiah 23:6). In some miraculous way, a human being who comes from the royal line of King David will ascend to David’s throne, save us and rule over us with wisdom and righteousness. And, He is also Adonai Himself, the Source of Being, who enables those who trust in Him to have a right relationship with God....

Names, Titles And Descriptions For The Son Of God That Are Found In The Tenach
Adonai Tzidkaynu - the Lord our Righteousness (Jeremiah 23:6): This is a prophecy about a human being who comes from the royal line of King David. He will ascend to David’s throne, save the Jewish people, and rule over us with wisdom and righteousness. The Lord is righteous - everything that He does, and everything that He says is perfectly good and right. Since He is our righteousness, He enables those who trust in Him to have a right relationship with Him, and be considered righteous by Him. Ultimate, saving righteousness doesn't come by keeping commandments or doing good deeds, but by developing a right relationship with Adonai Tzidkaynu and being declared righteous by Him.

The Son of David is also Adonai, and possesses all the attributes of Adonai. Adonai is also referred to as the "Tetragrammaton," which means "The Four Letters," because it comes from four Hebrew letters: Yud, Hay, Vav, Hay. This name comes from the Hebrew verb which means "to be." The title Adonai emphasizes God as the Supreme Source of all being, all reality, and all existence. He has life and being inherent in Himself. Everything else derives its existence from Him. Adonai is without beginning and without end because He always is. He is involved in creation, but is Himself beyond this creation. Messiah has life and being inherent in Himself: Yeshua said, "For just as the Father has life in Himself, even so He gave to the Son also to have life in Himself" (John 5:26). He gives existence to and sustains all things: “All things came into being by Him” (John 1:3). "He is before all things, and in Him all things hold together" (Colossians 1:17). "He upholds all things by the word of His power" (Hebrews 1:3). Furthermore, the Son of God claimed to be Adonai. When asked by some Jewish leaders how He could claim to have seen Abraham, who lived 2,000 years earlier, Yeshua replied: "Truly, truly, I say to you, before Abraham was born, I Am” (John 8:58), I Am being an essential part of the Tetragrammaton. As Adonai, Yeshua has all the resources to rule over Israel with wisdom and righteousness, to save the Jewish people, and give us a right standing and relationship with God.

Messiah (Psalm 2:2): The anointed Prophet, anointed Priest and anointed King. Messiah Himself uniquely embodies all three offices in one Person. He is the Prophet greater than Moses, the Priest greater than Aaron, and the King greater than David. He was not merely anointed with oil (a symbol of God's presence) as were Israel's earthly prophets, priests and kings, but He was anointed with the Holy Spirit of God, the reality to whom the oil points!...

Wonderful, Counselor, Mighty God, Father Of Eternity, Prince Of Peace (Isaiah 9:6)...

Arm Of The Lord (Isaiah 53:1): Just as a man's arm does his work for Him, so the Son of God is the Father's Executor. The Father plans and commands, and the Son obeys and carries out His Father's will, counsel and purposes. It is through Messiah that the universe came into being. It is through the Messiah, that the great work of atonement and salvation was accomplished.

Son Of God: In both Psalm 2:12 and Proverbs 30:4, God tells us that He has a Son. That does not mean that God created Him, or that He is younger than God - exactly the opposite! Just as a son shares the same nature as his father, so Yeshua shares the very same nature as His Father. The Son of God is fully divine, complete deity, eternal, uncreated, with life and being within Himself, sharing all the attributes of God!...

Incoming email, Re: "Muslims converting to Christianity throughout Iraq!"

Small groups meet in homes for worship, teaching, fellowship
http://www.religionjournal.com/showarticle.asp?id=1043

A good point

WHAT DOES "BETWEEN THE EVENINGS" MEAN?
http://users.aristotle.net/~bhuie/between.htm

...There is really no need to debate this issue, for the Bible clearly tells us when "between the evenings" is. In Exodus 29:38-41, God gives Israel instructions regarding the daily sacrifice:

EXODUS 29:38 And this is what you shall offer on the altar: two lambs daily, sons of a year; 39 the one lamb you shall offer in the morning, and the second [hasheni] lamb you shall offer between the evenings [beyn ha'arbayim]. 40 And a tenth of fine flour anointed with beaten oil, a fourth of a hin, and a drink offering, a fourth of a hin of wine, for the one lamb. 41 And you shall offer the second [hasheni] lamb between the evenings [beyn ha'arbayim]; you shall do it like the morning food offering and its drink offering, for a soothing fragrance, a fire offering to Jehovah. (LTB) Although many English translations render hasheni as "the other" in verses 39 and 41, any good Hebrew concordance will show you that it literally means "the" (ha) "second" (sheni). Most Church of God members accept that the Eternal reckons days from sunset to sunset (cf. Lev. 23:27, 32). The divine instructions shown above make it clear that the priests were to offer two lambs every day. God told Moses that the first lamb was to be sacrificed in the morning, and the second lamb was to be sacrificed "between the evenings." To be the second offering of the day, the lamb sacrificed "between the evenings" had to be slain before sunset!...

The Jews, however, correctly understood what God meant by beyn ha'arbayim. According to noted Jewish historian Alfred Edersheim, "Ordinarily it [the evening sacrifice] was slain at 2.30 P.M., and offered at about 3.30" (p. 174, updated ed., The Temple: Its Ministry and Services)....

My reply to a post on the Five Doves site

Re: Lester John (30 Dec 2003)
"John and the Two Witnesses"

> > King David will also be present during the time of the two witnesses
> > "But they shall serve the LORD their God, and David their king, whom I will raise up unto them." [Jeremiah 30:9]
> > "After this I will return, and will build again the tabernacle of David, which is fallen down; and I will build again the ruins thereof, and I will set it up:" [Acts 15:16]

I don't think David will be present on Earth during the first half of the Tribulation, when the two witnesses prophesy. The Tabernacle of David will be raised up after the Second Advent of Christ. Israelites will be put back on Earth after the Second Advent, and be given their lots in Israel on the 1335th day, as Daniel will (Dan. 12:13).

Jer. 30:3-9 says, "the days come, saith the LORD, that I will bring again the captivity of my people Israel and Judah, saith the LORD: and I will cause them to return to the land that I gave to their fathers, and they shall possess it (fulfilled in 1948). And these are the words that the LORD spake concerning Israel and concerning Judah. For thus saith the LORD; We have heard a voice of trembling, of fear, and not of peace. Ask ye now, and see whether a man doth travail with child? wherefore do I see every man with his hands on his loins, as a woman in travail, and all faces are turned into paleness? Alas! for THAT DAY (Day of God's Wrath) is great, so that none is like it: it is even the time of Jacob's trouble, but he shall be saved out of it. For it shall come to pass in that day, saith the LORD of hosts, that I will break his yoke from off thy neck, and will burst thy bonds, and strangers shall no more serve themselves of him: But they shall serve the LORD their God, and David their king, whom I will raise up unto them."

Serving the LORD of hosts (Christ) and David their king is after the Second Advent. I think there will be 7 months between the Day of God's Wrath and the Second Advent (Eze. 38:18-20; 39:12,13). During those 7 months, Israel will bury the dead to cleanse the land for the Lord's glorious return.

In Acts 15:13-17, "God at the FIRST did visit the GENTILES, to take out of them a people for his name. And to this agree the words of the prophets; as it is written, AFTER THIS (i.e., after the two Raptures) I WILL RETURN, AND WILL BUILD AGAIN THE TABERNACLE OF DAVID, which is fallen down; and I will build again the ruins thereof, and I will set it up: That the residue of men might seek after the Lord." Agape

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