Pro and Con 1099

Posted 2-26-04

A glass spherule (about 0.6 mm in diameter) produced by a meteorite impact into lunar soil. SEM image by D. S. McKay

Glass spherules are found on Earth and the Moon. Now they have found them on Mars, both on and below the surface. Their presence indicates asteroid impacts.


2-15-04...The German weekly Die Welt reported this week that OLAF has finally accepted the Israeli claims that PA terror organs are using millions of EU aid dollars to subsidize terror by Fatah-Tanzim and even Hamas. OLAF representatives recently visited Israel to personally verify the authenticity of PA documents found by Israeli forces during the IDF's month-long anti-terror offensive of April 2002.

The documents, put on display in Jerusalem way back on April 11, 2002, include some with Arafat's signature approving expenses to cover terror activities for 11 different terrorist leaders. Also among them are documents showing that the Orient House - PLO headquarters in Jerusalem - served as a center for terrorist activities, payments to terrorists' families, Fatah membership forms, an itemized report on terrorist activities in Jerusalem, PA salary slips for Orient House officials, proof of ties between the PA and Israeli-Arabs, and much more.

Interesting excerpts I found in Tacitus' "The Histories," chapter V, written 109 AD

A.D. 70
Early in this year Titus Caesar, who had been selected by his father to complete the subjugation of Judaea, and who had gained distinction as a soldier while both were still subjects, began to rise in power and reputation, as armies and provinces emulated each other in their attachment to him. The young man himself, anxious to be thought superior to his station, was ever displaying his gracefulness and his energy in war....

With this force Titus entered the enemy's territory, preserving strict order on his march, reconnoitring every spot, and always ready to give battle. At last he encamped near Jerusalem.

As I am about to relate the last days of a famous city, it seems appropriate to throw some light on its origin....

Moyses, wishing to secure for the future his authority over the nation, gave them a novel form of worship, opposed to all that is practised by other men. Things sacred with us, with them have no sanctity, while they allow what with us is forbidden. In their holy place they have consecrated an image of the animal by whose guidance they found deliverance from their long and thirsty wanderings. They slay the ram, seemingly in derision of Hammon, and they sacrifice the ox, because the Egyptians worship it as Apis. They abstain from swine's flesh, in consideration of what they suffered when they were infected by the leprosy to which this animal is liable. By their frequent fasts they still bear witness to the long hunger of former days, and the Jewish bread, made without leaven, is retained as a memorial of their hurried seizure of corn. We are told that the rest of the seventh day was adopted, because this day brought with it a termination of their toils; after a while the charm of indolence beguilded them into giving up the seventh year also to inaction. But others say that it is an observance in honour of Saturn, either from the primitive elements of their faith having been transmitted from the Idaei, who are said to have shared the flight of that God, and to have founded the race, or from the circumstance that of the seven stars which rule the destinies of men Saturn moves in the highest orbit and with the mightiest power, and that many of the heavenly bodies complete their revolutions and courses in multiples of seven....

The Egyptians worship many animals and images of monstrous form; the Jews have purely mental conceptions of Deity, as one in essence. They call those profane who make representations of God in human shape out of perishable materials. They believe that Being to be supreme and eternal, neither capable of representation, nor of decay. They therefore do not allow any images to stand in their cities, much less in their temples. This flattery is not paid to their kings, nor this honour to our Emperors....

Libanus is the principal mountain, and has, strange to say, amidst these burning heats, a summit shaded with trees and never deserted by its snows. The same range supplies and sends forth the stream of the Jordan. This river does not discharge itself into the sea, but flows entire through two lakes, and is lost in the third. This is a lake of vast circumference; it resembles the sea, but is more nauseous in taste; it breeds pestilence among those who live near by its noisome odour; it cannot be moved by the wind, and it affords no home either to fish or water-birds. These strange waters support what is thrown upon them, as on a solid surface, and all persons, whether they can swim or no, are equally buoyed up by the waves....

Such is the account of old authors; but those who know the country say that the bitumen moves in heaving masses on the water, that it is drawn by hand to the shore, and that there, when dried by the evaporation of the earth and the power of the sun, it is cut into pieces with axes and wedges just as timber or stone would be.

Not far from this lake lies a plain, once fertile, they say, and the site of great cities, but afterwards struck by lightning and consumed. Of this event, they declare, traces still remain, for the soil, which is scorched in appearance, has lost its productive power. Everything that grows spontaneously, as well as what is planted by hand, either when the leaf or flower have been developed, or after maturing in the usual form, becomes black and rotten, and crumbles into a kind of dust. I am ready to allow, on the one hand, that cities, once famous, may have been consumed by fire from heaven, while, on the other, I imagine that the earth is infected by the exhalations of the lake, that the surrounding air is tainted, and that thus the growth of harvest and the fruits of autumn decay under the equally noxious influences of soil and climate. The river Belus also flows into the Jewish sea. About its mouth is a kind of sand which is collected, mixed with nitre, and fused into glass. This shore is of limited extent, but furnishes an inexhaustible supply to the exporter....

Under Tiberius all was quiet. But when the Jews were ordered by Caligula to set up his statue in the temple, they preferred the alternative of war....

Yet the endurance of the Jews lasted till Gessius Florus was procurator. In his time the war broke out. Cestius Gallus, legate of Syria, who attempted to crush it, had to fight several battles, generally with ill-success. Cestius dying, either in the course of nature, or from vexation, Vespasian was sent by Nero, and by help of his good fortune, his high reputation, and his excellent subordinates, succeeded within the space of two summers in occupying with his victorious army the whole of the level country and all the cities, except Jerusalem. The following year had been wholly taken up with civil strife, and had passed, as far as the Jews were concerned, in inaction....

There had been seen hosts joining battle in the skies, the fiery gleam of arms, the temple illuminated by a sudden radiance from the clouds. The doors of the inner shrine were suddenly thrown open, and a voice of more than mortal tone was heard to cry that the Gods were departing. At the same instant there was a mighty stir as of departure....

Incoming email, Re: A Covenant With Many?

please read Rapture Ready Message Board, tread, "Firm Covenant With The Many", under "End Times Chat". Please read all of " Solookup Posts) It was mentioned that we are 100 days away from historic unification of Europe. And that it was unified only once in history, (The Roman Empire). So this is saying 100 days until the rebirth of the Roman Empire. Please read above tread. This person speaks of a 7 year plan hidden in a 10 yr. plan. Please read and let us know what you think about this. Or e-mail me. lol & Looking Up In Jesus

My reply

I read the speech and looked up some more tidbits we should consider.

For my many Jewish friends here this evening the Magem David - the Star of David - is a symbol of their religious faith. For my many Israeli friends it is a symbol of their nation. In its two interlocked triangles I see also a symbol of two other triangles. These are two triangles that, in the decades to come, will have a major bearing on the fortunes of us all. The first triangle is that between America, Europe and Israel. The second triangle is that between Judaism, Christianity and Islam....

Today, we are less than 100 days away from achieving an historic unification of Europe....

Europe's special responsibility - both moral and historical - creates a unique relationship with Israel. We are committed to Israel's right to exist as a Jewish state, where all Israeli citizens have a right to live in peace, security and dignity. And we respect the Israeli Government's right and duty to protect its citizens. But we are also convinced that the best way to secure these rights, the only lasting way to secure them, is through the creation of an independent, democratic Palestinian state....

Europe is ready to play her part - not as a sponsor of one side or the other, or as a counterweight, but as a partner of all parties in the search for lasting peace....

This brings me to the second triangle of which I spoke - that between Judaism, Christianity and Islam....

It is a triangle with common roots. Abraham is the common ancestor for Jews, Christians and Muslims. But successful co-existence is not guaranteed by shared origins. It will be achieved only through mutual respect and tolerance....

The dialogue achieved between Jews and Christians must be extended to Islam. This dialogue must begin with a rejection of violence....
--- line of vast importance...Today, we are less than 100 days away from achieving an historic unification of Europe. it was unified only once in history THE ROMAN EMPIRE !!!!

less than 100 days to the rebirth of the roman empire. ten toes of the statue in Daniel.

for those who may not know,, this guy has been makeing deals and agreements for over 30 years.

the european union is the culmination of all these deals around the world. the european union had a ten year plan for 2000 to 2100 (2010), a three year formation perion, where the deals would be made, then the official birth in may 2004, when all the deals made will become binding, then the remainder of the ten year plan wich is SEVEN YEARS !!!!


sure, theres only TEN core countries with full membership rights, but have any of you counted the member countries who have made 'a deal' with the e.u. as assosicate members is in the hundreds. and EVERY COUNTRY has some kinda 'agreement' with the eu. including america...

yes folks , we are 100 days away from the official date of the peace deal made with the many,,,, a SEVEN YEAR PLAN.

so when you see these things comeing to pass raise your hands raise your heads look up and rejoice FOR YOUR SALVATION DRAWS NEAR luke 21:28
Post #23
So Herb thinks that the "covenant with many" is the EU coming officially into being? Many of us have assumed that it was a 7 year treaty with Israel and have been looking at all of these so called "Roads to Peace" that have been going on between Israel and the Pals.

Here is the verse in Daniel 9:27 as a reference: And he shall confirm the covenant with many for one week: and in the midst of the week he shall cause the sacrifice and the oblation to cease, and for the overspreading of abominations he shall make [it] desolate, even until the consummation, and that determined shall be poured upon the desolate.

So assuming that this covenant begins in May 2004....we assume that the Trib also begins in 2004??? Because one of the markers of the midway point of the Trib is that the sacrifice and the oblations cease as is cross-referenced in Daniel 12:11: And from the time [that] the daily [sacrifice] shall be taken away, and the abomination that maketh desolate set up, [there shall be] a thousand two hundred and ninety days.

and also as is mentioned by Christ in Matthew 24:15: When ye therefore shall see the abomination of desolation, spoken of by Daniel the prophet, stand in the holy place, (whoso readeth, let him understand:)

Now as we all know, something fairly major is going to have to happen for that tabernacle/temple to built in the next 3 1/2 years from now.

I don't know....the EU being the covenant with many just is working for me. Not with what that is assuming as is stated by the verses above....

Whatever it looks like on May 1st...I would have to say that if it doesn't make specific, concrete overtures to Israel that include a 7 year time frame then this isn't THE deal....

10 nations to join EU by 2004

BRUSSELS (Reuters) - The European Commission said on Wednesday 10 countries can wrap up accession talks in December and join the EU in 2004 in a historic unification of Europe, provided Ireland's voters do not derail the project....
European Union expands borders with 10 new nations

The European Union (EU) is set to expand to 450 million people, surpassing North America as the world’s biggest economic zone, reports

During a ceremony on April 16 (2003?) in Athens, Greece, 10 nations signed treaties to join the EU, bringing the total number of members to 25....Cyprus, the Czech Republic, Estonia, Hungary, Latvia, Lithuania, Malta, Poland, Slovakia and Slovenia will officially join the EU on May 1, 2004, pending referendums and ratifications....

My comments

This is an interesting development. Both the 10 countries and the May 1, 2004, date catch my eye. Could this be the 10 kings of end-time prophecy? If so, the Rapture could be before May 1. But let's see what Scripture indicates.

Dan. 7:23-26 says, "The fourth beast shall be the fourth kingdom upon earth (Rome, legs of Nebuchadnezzar's image), which shall be diverse (shena, altered) from all kingdoms (Ecclesiatic Rome, feet of the image), and shall devour THE WHOLE EARTH (UN and UR, the two feet, partly iron, Rome, and partly clay, other nations), and shall tread it down, and BREAK IT (THE WHOLE EARTH) IN PIECES (the 10 regions, i.e., the 10 toes). And the ten horns (kings) out of this kingdom are ten kings that shall arise (at about the time of the Pre-Trib Rapture, Rev. 17:12, they're crowned as the Tribulation begins, Rev. 13:1): and another (the False Prophet of Rev. 13:11-18) shall rise AFTER them (Mid-Trib); and he shall be diverse from the first (the Beast of Rev. 13:2-10), and he (the False Prophet) shall subdue (shephal, humble, put down) three kings. And he shall speak great words against the most High (Christ), and shall wear out the saints of the most High, and think to change times and laws: and they shall be given into his hand until a time and times and the dividing of time (3.5 years that get shortened, Mt. 24:22,23). But the judgment (Judgment Seat of Christ) shall sit (at the general assembly in Heaven, Heb. 12:23), and they (all the saints in Heaven) shall take away his dominion, to consume and to destroy it unto the end."

Psa 149:5-9 says, "Let the saints be joyful in glory (i.e., in Heaven): let them sing aloud upon their beds. Let the high praises of God be in their mouth, and a twoedged sword in their hand; To execute vengeance upon the heathen, and punishments upon the people; To bind their kings with chains, and their nobles with fetters of iron; To execute upon them the judgment written: this honour have all his saints. Praise ye the LORD."

To me, the "WHOLE EARTH" points to the UN and UR rather than the EU.

Ten Super Nations, or Regions, of this world

The following was on The Cutting Edge Ministries.
...the New World Order Plan has divided the world into 10 Super Nations (See NEWS1002), and has nearly completed the reorganization. Briefly, the entire world has been reorganized into 10 Super Nations, as listed below:


l. North America
2. Western Europe
3. Japan
4. Australia, South Africa, and the rest of the market-economy of the developed world
5. Eastern Europe, including Russia
6. Latin America
7. North Africa and the Middle East
8. Tropical Africa
9. South and Southeast Asia
10. China

Let's look at Rev. 17. In verse 14, the Pre-Trib saints have just been raptured. They "that ARE with him (Christ) are called, and chosen, and faithful." They are in Heaven BEFORE the 10 kings receive their kingdoms.

At the time of the Rapture, Rev. 17:12 says that the 10 kings "have received no kingdom as yet; but receive power as kings one hour (hora, day, hour, instant, season, i.e., the Tribulation trial of the whole world, Rev. 3:10) with the beast."

All 10 are crowned at the beginning of the Tribulation (Rev. 13:1), as the Beast of 13:2-10 comes to full power.

Dan 2:44 And in the days of these kings shall the God of heaven set up a kingdom, which shall never be destroyed: and the kingdom shall not be left to other people, but it shall break in pieces and consume all these kingdoms, and it shall stand for ever."

Rev 13:1 says, "I stood upon the sand of the sea (symbol of multitudes of people, nations, and tongues, Rev. 17:15), and saw a beast (great red dragon, Rev. 12:3) rise up out of the sea (nations), having seven heads and ten horns, and upon his horns ten crowns, and upon his heads the name of blasphemy" (Pontifex Maximus).

The seven heads are the leaders of the Tower of Babel, the Neo-Babylonian Empire, the Medo-Persion Empire, Greece, Rome, Ecclesiastic Rome, plus the False Prophet. According to Rev. 17:10, at the time of the Rapture, 5 of the 7 heads have fallen, Babel I, Babylon II, Medo-Persia, Greece and the old Holy Roman Empire. One is, Ecclesiastic Rome, headed up by the 6th head, the Tribulation Pope, the Beast of Rev. 13:2-10. The 7th head is the False Prophet (Rev. 13:11-18) of Babylon III. All these leaders carry the title of Pontifex Maximus, which started with Nimrod at the Tower of Babel.

The key is "THE WHOLE EARTH." I still think it represents the UN, and that the Rapture seems likely on Ascension Day, May 17, 2004. The May 1 date of the 10 nations joining the EU, shows how the 10 regions of the world are expected to come together. Agape

Incoming email

(1) Re: Pro-Con
Marilyn, In one of your recent pro/con sections someone wrote... "In a list of names of God are El, singular, Eloh, dual, and Elohim, three or more. That's very interesting. Then Elohim suggests the triune Godhead in the first sentence of Scripture. "IN THE BEGINNING God (Elohim) created the heaven (lit., heavens) and the earth." "

Elohim does not mean "3 or more" and never has in Hebrew grammar. The "im" ending makes a word plural EXCEPT when it refers to God, then it is always singular. In addition, Elohim is not exlusive to God Himself but is used in scripture to refer to angels and judges as well. Please check the claims of these people before you post them on your website.

(2) Re: Rabbi
Marilyn, Any person who says he is a rabbi and then makes the claim that Y'shua is YHVH is a complete fraud. Where did this "rabbi" get his credentials? Please tell me he isn't a "messianic rabbi".

And to claim that YHVH comes from the verb "to be" is purely speculation.

Also, the Hebrew phrase Eyeh Asher Eyeh means I will be what I will be...not I am that I am. Long hand: I will be with you as I promised your forefathers before you, to meet your every need according to my promises.

Check a "rabbi's" credentials before you just print his posts. It makes you look like you have no just print anything.

My reply

> > "In a list of names of God are El, singular, Eloh, dual, and Elohim, three or more.

Sorry I didn't put the reference. Here are some.

ELOHIM:God (a plural noun,more than two,used with singular verbs, the dual form Eloah is used in Job)...

ADONAI: Lord in our English Bibles (Capitol letter 'L',lower case,'ord') (Adonai is plural,the singular is "adon"). "Master''or "Lord" 300 times in the OT always plural when referring to God,when singular,the reference is to a human lord....

JEHOVAH: LORD in our English Bibles (all capitals).
Yahweh is the covenant name of God.
Occurs 6823 times in the OT
First use Gen.2:4 (Jehovah Elohim).From the verb "to be", havah,similar to chavah (to live),"The Self-Existent One,""
I AM WHO I AM" or 'I WILL BE WHO I WILL BE" as revealed to Moses at the burning bush,Ex.3....

Note Deut.6:4,5 known to Jews as the Sh'ma uses both Jehovah and Elohim to indicate one God with a plurality of persons....

EL ROI:"God of Seeing" Hagar in Gen.16:13.The God Who opens our eyes. KANNA:"Jealous"(zealous). Ex.20:5,34:14;Deut.5:9;Isa.9:7;Zech.1:14,8:2.


YESHA:(Y'shua)"Savior"Isa.43:3. Jesus is the Greek equivalent of the Hebrew "Joshua." The latter is a contraction of Je-Hoshua.("Christ",the anointed one is equivalent to the Hebrew Maschiah, or Messiah).

GAOL:"Redeemer"(to buy back by paying a price).Job 19:25; For example,the antitype corresponding to Boaz the Kinsman-Redeemer in the Book of Ruth.



TSADDIQ:"Righteous One"Psa.7:9.

EL-OLAM:"Everlasting God"(God of everlasting time) Gen.21:33;Psa.90:1-3,93:2;Isa.26:4....

"I AM":Jesus upset his generation especially when He said,"Before Abraham was,I AM,"John 8:58....



SOTER:"Savior"Luke 1:4 7.

JESUS:Derived from the Hebrew "Joshua" (Y'shua) or "Je-Hoshua"meaning JEHOVAH IS SALVATION.

CHRIST:is equivalent to the Hebrew'Messiah'(Meshiach),"The Anointed One."...

Father,Son,Holy Spirit:Christian orthodoxy has always understood God to be One God in Three Persons (Elohim).
In The NT each person of the godhead is called "God"and "Lord"at least once....

Deity of our Lord Jesus Christ.
Here is what the Scofield Study Bible Notes say:
(1)In the intimations and explicit predictions of the O.T.
(a)The theophanies intimate the appearance of God in human form,and His ministry thus to man(Gen.16:7-13;18:2-23.
especially v.17;32.28 with Hos.12:3-5;Ex.3:2-14). (b)The Messiah is expressly declared to be the Son of God(Psa.2:2-9),and God(Psa.45:6,7 with Heb.1:8,9;Psa.110.with Mt.22:44;Acts 2:34 and Heb.1:13;Psa.110.4 with Heb.5:6;6.20:7.17-21;and Zech.6:13).
(c)His virgin birth was foretold as the means through which God could be "Immanuel," God with us (Isa.7:13,14 with Mt.1:22,23).
(d)The Messiah is expressly invested with the divine names(Isa.9:6,7).
(e)In a prophecy of His death He is called Jehovah's "fellow"(Zech.13:7 with Mt.26:31).(f)His eternal being is declared(Mic.5:2 with Mt.2:6;John 7:42).

(2)Christ Himself affirmed His deity.
(a)He applied to Himself the Jeho-vistic I AM.(The pronoun "he"is not in the Greek;cf.John 8:24;John 8:56-58.
The Jews correctly understood this to be our Lord's claim to full deity[v.59].
See,also,John 10:33;18:4-6,where,also "he"is not in the original.)
(b)He claimed to be the Adonai of the O.T.(Mt.22:42-45.See Gen.15:2,note).
(c)He asserted His identity with the Father(Mt.28:19;Mk.14:62;John 10:30;that the Jews so understood Him is shown by vs.31,32;John 14:8,9;17.5).
(d)He exercised the chief prerogative of God(Mk.2:5-7;Lk.7:48-50).
(e)He asserted omnipresence(Mt.18:20;John 3:13);
omniscience(John 11:11-14,when Jesus was fifty miles away;Mk.11:6-8);
omnipotence(Mt.28:18;Lk.7:14;John 5:21-23;;
mastery over nature,and creative power(Lk.9:16.17;John 2:9,10:28).
(f)He received and approved human worship(Mt.14:33;28:9,John 20:28,29).

(3)The N.T.writers ascribe divine titles to Christ(John 1:1;20.28;Acts 20:28;Rom.1:4;9:5;2 Thess.1:12;1 Tim.3:16;Tit.2:23;Heb.1:8;1 John 5:20).

(4)The N.T.writers ascribe divine perfections and attributes to Christ(e.g. Mt.11:28;18:20,28:20;John 1:2,2:23-25;3:13;5:17;21:17;Heb.1:3,11,12 with Heb.13:8;Rev.1:8,17,18;2:23;11.17;22:13).

(5)The N.T.writers ascribe divine works to Christ(John 1:3.16:17,Col.1:16,17;Heb.1:3).

(6)The N.T.writers teach that supreme worship should be paid to Christ(Acts 7:59,60;1 Cor.1:2;2 Cor.13:14,Phil.2:9,10;Heb.1:6;Rev.1:5,6;5.12,13).

(7)The holiness and resurrection of Christ prove His deity(John 8:46;Rom. 1:4)....

The concept of the Trinity is present from the opening verse of the Bible,actually.
The word "God"in Genesis 1:1 is "elohim."
This is not a simple plural of the word 'god.
'The plural of that word,which means 'two,'is "eloh.""."Eloah" means singular. Elohim"means "three or more."
In 1 John 5:7,it says,"there are three that bear record in heaven....
The Names of God
by Lambert Dolphin

...Elah is equivalent to the Hebrew Eloah which is dual while Elohim is three or more....
Notes on the Trinity
by Helen Fryman

The concept of the Trinity is present from the opening verse of the Bible, actually. The word "God" in Genesis 1:1 is "elohim." This is not a simple plural of the word 'god.' The plural of that word, which means 'two,' is "eloh." "Elohim" means "three or more."...

> > (2) Re: Rabbi

Marilyn, Any person who says he is a rabbi and then makes the claim that Y'shua is YHVH is a complete fraud. Where did this "rabbi" get his credentials? Please tell me he isn't a "messianic rabbi".

Of course he is messianic. He is one Rabbi that understands the truth that Y'shua is HaMashiach. May God bless him abundantly. He is saved. "Neither is there salvation in any other: for there is none other name under heaven given among men, whereby we must be saved" (Act 4:12).

Scripture's question: Prov. 30:4 (JPS) asks, "Who hath ascended up into heaven, and descended? Who hath gathered the wind in his fists? Who hath bound the waters in his garment? Who hath established all the ends of the earth? What is his name (YHVH), and what is his son's name (YHVH of hosts, his Redeemer), if thou knowest?"

Scripture's answer: Isaiah 44:6 (JPS) says, "Thus saith the Lord (YHVH), the King of Israel, AND his Redeemer the Lord (YHVH) of hosts: I am the first (YHVH King of Israel), AND I am the last (YHVH of hosts, his Redeemer), and beside Me there is no God."

I Cor. 5:7 (Hebraic-Roots Version) says, "For our Pesach is the Messiah, who was slain instead of us."

> > the Hebrew phrase Eyeh Asher Eyeh means I will be what I will be...not I am that I am.

Thank you. I agree. YHVH of hosts, the Redeemer, the Pre-incarnate Mashiach, was speaking to Moses from the burning bush. John 10:30,38 (HRV) says, I and my father are father is in me and I am in my father."

John 1:18 (HRV) says, "Man has not ever seen Eloah (i.e., God the Father). The only begotten Eloah (i.e., God the Son, Yeshua), that one who is in the bosom of his father, has declared him."

John the Baptist "saw Yeshua, who was walking toward him, and said, Behold, the lamb of Eloah who takes away the sin of the world" (John 1:29, HRV). Yeshua, the "lamb of Eloah" (singular), was our Passover lamb. I Cor. 5:7 (HRV) says, "our Pesach is the Messiah, who was slain instead of us." He died and was resurrected that we might live eternally.

Deuteronomy 6:4 (CJB) says, "Sh'ma, Yisra'el! ADONAI Eloheinuy, ADONAI echad [hear, israel! ADONAI our God, ADONAI is one]." The Hebrew "echad" means united, as in Gen. 49:6. Elohim is the united Father, Son and Holy Spirit. The KJV says, "Hear, O Israel: The LORD (YHVH) our God is one LORD (YHVH)."

In John 10:30,38 (HRV) Yeshua said, "I and my father are father is in me and I am in my father....the Father is UNITED with me, and I am UNITED with the Father."

No man ever saw the Father. Every time YHVH spoke or appeared to mankind, it was always YASHA, the Saviour, the Son of God, that spoke or was seen.

Isaiah 43: 3 (Stone Ed. Tanach) says, "I AM HASHEM (YHVH) YOUR GOD, THE HOLY ONE OF ISRAEL, YOUR SAVIOR(YASHA)" (i.e., Yeshua).

Isaiah 45:15 (Stone) says, "'Indeed, You are a God Who conceals Himself, THE GOD OF ISRAEL IS THE SAVIOR (YASHA)!" Verses 21 and 22 say, "Is it not I, HASHEM (YHVH)? There is no other god besides Me; there is no righteous god besides Me and no savior (YASHA) other than Me. TURN TO ME AND BE SAVED, ALL ENDS OF THE EARTH, for I am God and there is no other."

Isaiah (which means salvation of YHVH) 7:14 (Stone Ed.) says, "Therefore, my Lord Himself will give you A SIGN: Behold, the maiden will become pregnant and bear a son, and SHE WILL NAME HIM IMMANUEL."

Matthew 1:20-23 (HRV) says, "the angel appeared to him in a dream, saying, Yosef son of David, fear not to take Miriam your wife, for that which will be born of her is from the Ruach HaKodesh;' for from the Ruach HaKodesh (i.e., the Holy Spirit of God) she had conceived. And behold, she will bear a son, and YOU WILL CALL HIS NAME YESHUA (meaning Saviour); for he will save his people from all their sins. And all this was to fulfill what was spoken from YHWH by prophet Yesha'yahu (Isaiah, meaning salvation of God), saying, "Behold, the virgin will conceive, and bear a son, AND WILL CALL HIS NAME IMMANU'EL" ("which being interpreted is, GOD WITH US", KJV). Shalom and agape

   Pro and Con 1100   Or Return   Home

Contact me for more information at:

Send me e-mail now

8641 Sugar Gum Rd, Riverside, CA 92508, USA; (909) 653-4110

© 1996-2002, Marilyn J. Agee
Updated 2-26-04