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Incoming e-mail

I read your book "End of the Age", and I thought it was very excellent. In my heart, your book really helped me understand things of the Bible to me. I mean it put every thing and tied everything together PERFECT. It has a balance that puts all the details of the Bible together, and only together can a person understand through the Holy Spirit. I have a question, what do you think will happen this year with Israel and Syria? and what do you think about the Psalms giving clues to what happens? I mean some say Psalm 48 pertains to 1948, and Psalm 17 pertains to 1917.

My reply

Glad you liked my book. I have written two more, Heaven Found: A Butter and Honey Star, and the forthcoming Revelations 2000.
...As for Israel and Syria, I don't know.
As for Secrets in the Psalms by J.R. Church, I have the book and am still not convinced. Psalm 96 starts out "O SING unto the LORD a new song." That is sung right after the Rapture (Rev. 5:9), and the Rapture did not happen in 1996.
What do I think of Bible Codes, by Michael Drosnin? Internet has pros and cons, but seems like there is something there.

Incoming e-mail, Subject: Re: great prophetic stuff/ keep up the good work

I really enjoy your explanation of God's creation story and other interesting prophetic information. It is easy for me to believe this kind of stuff because it comes right from the bible....keep up the great work. It is always encouraging to hear other christians who beleive the same things as me.

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How in the world do you even think that the rapture is going to happen on May 31st 1998 and the hour?

If you had actually read your Bible you would know that it says NO ONE KNOWS THE DAY OR HOUR!!!!!

"Some people are so messed up and it really, really looks like you are. You are missleading so many people and you will answer for it in heaven!! I don't know why you think that God would tell you the day and hour before He told his own Son!!!!

That light that you saw on that verse was probably a light down the hall in another room coming into yours.

YOU NEED HELP!!!! You also need to be praying to God asking Him for forgivness about all this.

I can't wait until May 31st 1998 when I can e-mail you a letter to show how wrong you are!!!

You better beplanning some explaining, cause there are going to be lots and lots of mad people!! bye bye and God bless

My reply

> How in the world...

If you had read my book, Exit: 2007: The Secret of Secrets Revealed, you would know how.

Just taking a quick look, I can see at least 15 different versions of Bibles on my shelf and under my deskside table and I have read them all.

Mt. 24:36 says, "But of that day and hour knoweth (present tense, meaning that very day) no man." It does not say no man will ever know. Mark 13:32 also says, "knoweth." In the time of the end, Daniel 12:10 says, "the wise shall understand."

In Mt. 25:13, Jesus told the foolish virgins, "Watch therefore, for ye know neither the day nor the hour wherein the Son of man cometh."

In Rev. 3:3, Jesus warns the churches, "If therefore thou shalt not watch, I will come on thee as a thief, and thou shalt not know what hour I will come upon thee." What can we know if we do watch?

> I don't know why you think that God would tell you the day and hour before He told
> his own Son!!!!

He did not tell me. The only thing he has ever said to me was, "Be still and know that I am God." I had to study hard to figure it out. And, I am not a prophet. I can be wrong. I tell people to search the scriptures and see if these things are so. I also tell people to be wearing white garments, just in case. Please tell me, what does it hurt to be prepared?

Yahwehshua (meaning Yahweh is Saviour, i.e., Yeshua, Jesus) is the Father. He said, "I and my Father are one" (Jn 10:30). He is the "Alpha and Omega, the beginning (Lord of the Old Testament) and the end (Lord of the New Testament), the first (Yahweh) and the last (Yahwehshua)" (Rev. 22:13).Isa. 44:6 says, "Thus saith the LORD (Yahweh) the King of Israel, AND his redeemer the LORD (Yahweh) of hosts; I am the first, and I am the last; and beside me there is no God." Isa. 9:6 says, "and his name shall be called...The everlasting Father." I Cor. 2:7,8 says, "But we speak the wisdom of God in a mystery, even the hidden wisdom, which God ordained before the world unto our glory: Which none of the princes of this world knew: for had they known it, they would not have crucified the Lord of glory." Jesus is "the arm of the LORD (Yahweh)" in Isa. 53:1. II Cor. 5:19 says, "God was in Christ, reconciling the world unto himself."

> That lightthat you saw on that verse was probably a light down the hall in another
> room coming into yours.

No lights were on at all, not even down the hall. It was dusk. The lined draperies were closed. Nothing ordinary could have lighted a rectangular section like that.

As for needing God's help, I couldn't make it through a day without his help. I always need his help. I try to confess any known sin as soon as I commit it so he will cleanse me of all unrighteousness. I want to be in fellowship with the Lord at all times.

One of the attributes of God is love, agape love. It flows from one Christian to another. There is true fellowship between Christians as God's love flows between them. We can agree to disagree without being disagreeable.

If it happens, and they get left behind, they will be just as mad and a whole lot unhappier. Mt. 22:12-14 says, "Friend, how camest thou in hither not having a wedding garment? And he was speechless. Then said the king to the servants, Bind him hand and foot, and take him away, and cast him into outer darkness; there shall be weeping and gnashing of teeth. For many are called, but few are chosen." On the day of the first Rapture, those with Christ "are called, and chosen, and faithful" (Rev. 17:14).

In Luke 12:45,46, Jesus said, "But and if that servant say in his heart, My lord delayeth his coming; and shall begin to beat the menservants and maidens, and to eat and drink, and to be drunken; The lord of that servant will come in a day when he looketh not for him, and at an hour when he is not aware, and will cut him in sunder (margin: cut him off), and will appoint him his portion with the unbelievers" (in the Tribulation).

Now you are in the same boat I am in. You are saying the Rapture is not going to happen on May 31st, 1998 (Pentecost Sunday). You have stuck your neck out too. Now you can be wrong also. One of us in going to have to eat humble pie.

Time will tell. The actual date is not the important thing. What really matters is that we need to get the word out that there is a possibility of the Rapture being soon and people should not get caught without the white garments on. The lukewarm Laodiceans will temporarily be spewed out of the Body of Christ and get left behind for chastisement and be taken to Heaven in Rapture II, saved so as by fire, caught up out of the fiery furnace. The Philadelphians will be kept from the Tribulation entirely.

Which group will you be in? Do you know what to do to be sure you will be chosen as a member of the Bride of Christ? Use I John 1:9. It says, "If we confess our sins (that is known sins), he is faithful and just to forgive us our sins, and to cleanse us from all unrighteousness (that includes all our unknown sins)." Then we will be wise virgins with enough oil of the Holy Spirit in our vessels to be chosen as the Bride of Christ and be caught up to Heaven at the first Rapture.

I pray that God will give you understanding.

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Question: On page 366, Rev. 17:8 says "and they that dwell on the earth shall wonder, whose names were not written in the book of life from the foundation of the world." Who is "they"? In the Judgment Day, all those written in the book of life stand before Christ, right?...More later. God bless you always.

My reply

In Rev. 17:8, "they" are not Christians. Their names are not written in the book of life. They are left on Earth to go through the Tribulation.

There is more than one Judgment Day. There is the Judgment Seat of Christ on the 2,300th day of the Tribulation. I think it will be Tishri 1, 2007, the Feast of Trumpets. On that day Rev. 11:18 takes place. It says, "And the nations were angry, and thy wrath is come, and the time of the dead, that they should be judged, and that thou shouldest give reward unto thy servants the prophets, and to the saints, and them that fear thy name, small and great; and shouldest destroy them which destroy the earth." Believers are in Heaven and receive their rewards. Unbelievers are on Earth and at the same time receive their just rewards for their unbelief. The asteroid will crash into the Earth.

There is the Great White Throne Judgment at the end of the millennial Day of the Lord that begins on the Tishri 1 above. Rev. 20:11-15 speaks of this judgment. These resurrected dead do not have their names written in the book of life and are judged according to their works. They will find that no amount of works will save them or get their name into the book of life. "And whosoever was not found written in the book of life was cast into the lake of fire."

We will probably be present at the Great White Throne Judgment but only as observers, not to be judged. Our names are in the book of life and we will have already received our rewards a thousand years before this takes place.

The Millennium starts and ends with a judgment. Those whose names are written in the book of life will be judged at the Judgment Seat of Christ 1,000 years before the dead whose names are not written in the book of life are judged at the Great White Throne Judgment.

Incoming e-mail, Re: Web Page

I found your web page about last January, and have read everything on it. ( skimmed the chronologies )I check it often and look forward to seeing more info. The pro and con section is most telling. I've read "The End of the Age" three times. It's very rare for me to do that but there's so much to see and think about. There is so much more to your books than just the date of the rapture and the location of heaven.

I've noticed that the naysayers like to call you a "date setter", but it seems you've acknowledged God set the date and you are trying to find out when it is. Some are so adamant against knowing the date, do you ever get the feeling that after the rapture has occured, they will hope no one found out when the date was?

I've been particularly interested in Bruce Baber's article about the two feet of Christ, and refer to it often....

Thanks again for your efforts, and taking the time to speak with me personally.

My reply

I realize that my books are PACKED with information. You should have seen the first one until an English teacher at BIOLA told me to give people a chance to catch their breath. I left out a bunch after that. You see, I tend to write like I want to read. I hate to run into all the sights, scenes, smells and other descriptions that teachers like to see in books, but do not really tell the story. I'm too impatient to wade through all those niceties and tend to skip them in books. I have a hard time putting in enough of that. I want to just tell the story straight through. Therefore, I usually have to first write it concisely for myself, then rewrite it for someone else, easing up a bit.

> I've noticed that the naysayers like to call you a "date setter",
> but it seems you've acknowledged God set the date and you are trying to
> find out when it is. Some are so adamant against knowing the date, do
> you ever get the feeling that after the rapture has occured, they will
> hope no one found out when the date was?

Had to laugh at this one. The thought hadn't crossed my mind. I just always think, "Well, time will tell."

Actually, what I really want to get across is for people to get ready, confess their known sins so God can cleanse them from all unrighteousness (I John 1:9). This way they will be wise virgins with plenty of oil in their vessels with their lamps. If they are ready, the time of the Rapture is not important. If they are not ready, it could be far more important than they might realize. They could get caught off guard and get left behind like the foolish virgins.

Glad you like Bruce Baber's article. I liked it too.

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I am presently reading your book "The end of the age" and thoroughly enjoying it (enraptured by it). I will get back to you with questions and comments when i have finished reading the book.

God bless you and may he guide your calculations :)

My reply

Thank you for your comments on my book. You make me feel like all my hard hard work is worth it.

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I have read your book "the End of an Age". I loved it. Couldn't put it down although I didn't grasp every detail. Even if the exact date isn't correct, I know the time is near. I learned many things about the bible reading your book and it has kept me inspired to continue studying the word.

In your book, the ECC you felt was the 10 to raise up (13 but 3 would be taken up)--But I understand there is now 15 members. Do you have any feelings on this?

My reply

Glad you like my book. Ask questions when there is something you do not understand or disagree with.

...when I found the key to the book of Revelation was that it was written as if the Rapture was at hand (see Rev. 1:3 and 22:10), I realized that the EEC was not what most, including me, once thought it was.

My forthcoming book, Revelations 2000, explains all this in detail. For a quickie now, first look at Rev. 13:1. The ten horns are just then crowned, and that is at the very first of the Tribulation. Now look at Rev. 17:10. The king who "is" is the Pope (ecclesiastical Rome) who is in power when the Rapture takes place. Next, look at Rev. 17:12. It says, "And the ten horns which thou sawest are ten kings, which have received no kingdom as yet; but receive power as kings one hour with the beast."

This shows that there is a gap between the Rapture and the Tribulation. At the Rapture, the ten kings have not yet received their kingdom. At the beginning of the Tribulation, they are crowned.

Therefore, at the present time, they are not yet in power in the capacity that they will be in during the Tribulation. My guess is that the Tribulation Pope will be elected head of the United Nations, and that there will be ten subordinate kings/rulers elected to help administer the world government. This will give the nations a more secure feeling than if the Pope alone was to administer the world government since his field is religion, not government. One reason I think the Pope is elected is Rev. 13:4, "who is able to make war with him?" Things will have come to such a desperate stage that this will seem like the only thing to do to preserve peace in the world. It won't work, but I think it will be tried. I could be wrong, but this is the way it looks to me.

Incoming e-mail, Re: Your Books

Jesus called the church a great mystery. He said that we are bone of his bone and flesh of his flesh and compared the marriage relationship to the mystery of the church. ... You are a part of them forever. If being perfect= being "forgiven", your belief is that everytime a christian sins, they lose that perfection. Are they then losing their righteousness?

Once they confess the sin, they then regain that righteousness? So - esentially, they are to live in these last days in a state of uncertainty [uncertain if indeed they have remembered to confess all their sins and hope God takes care of the unconfessed sins]?

Jesus spoke of BOTH resurrections to Martha when he said "I am the Resurrection and the Life. He that believeth in me, though he were dead, yet shall he live" [first group - those who are dead at the rapture]..."and whosoever liveth and believeth in me shall never die."[second group - those who are ALIVE when Jesus returns - they will NEVER see death. That second group covers ALL believers alive at the pre-trib rapture. If you are ALIVE at the time and believe in Jesus [saved] - you go UP! Jesus addressed BOTH groups of christians in this simple, beautiful passage of scripture in the KJV....

All the redeemed will go UP They will miss Mr. 666.

My reply

Yes and no. There are two kinds, the righteousness of Christ imputed to us (we can't lose that) and the righteousnesses of saints (those are up to us). Because of the righteousness of Christ imputed to us, we are forever part of the Body of Christ. Because of our righteousnesses, or lack of them, we gain or lose rewards, but never our salvation.

R.B. Thieme said that almost everything we do gains rewards when we are filled with the Holy Spirit, and almost nothing counts if we are not filled with the Holy Spirit.

I Corinthians 13:3 says, "And though I bestow all my goods to feed the poor, and through I give my body to be burned, and have not charity (love, and the Spirit of God is love), it profiteth me nothing."

Ephesians 4:30 says, "And grieve not the holy Spirit of God, whereby ye are sealed unto the day of redemption." We can not lose our sealing, but we can quench the Holy Spirit. First Thessalonians 5:19 commands, "Quench not the Spirit," and we should pay attention.

I Corinthians 3:11-15 explains: "For other foundation can no man lay that that is laid, which is Jesus Christ. Now if any man build upon this foundation gold, silver, precious stones, wood, hay, stubble; Every man's work shall be made manifest: for the day shall declare it, because it shall be revealed by fire; and the fire shall try every man's work of what sort it is. If any man's work abide which he hath built thereupon, he shall receive a reward. If any man's work shall be burned, he shall suffer loss: but he himself shall be saved; yet so as by fire." So, we can not lose our salvation, but we can lose other rewards.

I Corinthians 9:24 says, "Know ye not that they which run in a race run all, but one receiveth the prize: So run, that ye may obtain." Paul said, in Philippians 3:14, "I press toward the mark for the prize of the high calling of God in Christ Jesus." This high calling is the "Come up hither" of Revelation 4:1, the Rapture of the Bride of Christ. All who do not earn this prize are part of the group of saints who come out of the Great Tribulation in Rapture II.

We have the Lord's word that if we confess known sins, he will cleanse us from ALL unrighteousness. We do not have to live in uncertainty at all. I John 1:9 says, "If we confess our sins, he is faithful and just to forgive us our sins, and to cleanse us from all unrighteousness." If you can trust the Lord for salvation, you can trust him to cleanse you from all unrighteousness if you confess your known sins. There should be no guesswork about it. It is cut and dried--do this and that will happen.

We will see, won't we. The Laodiceans think they have it made and they do not. Think about the five foolish virgins, who were left behind when the Bridegroom came because they did not have enough of the oil of the Holy Spirit, and the lukewarm Laodiceans who are spewed out of the Body of Christ until they acquire white robes. Later, in Revelation 7:14, we find that "These are they which came out of great tribulation, and have washed their robes, and made them white in the blood of the Lamb."

Revelation 21:27 says of the heavenly New Jerusalem, "And there shall in no wise enter into it any thing that defileth, neither whatsoever worketh abomination, or maketh a lie: but they which are written in the Lamb's book of life."

My heartfelt thanks to all who like my Web Site. God's wonderful blessings on you all. May we meet at the assembly in Heaven right after the Rapture.

In Christ,
Marilyn
(Mrs.) Marilyn J. Agee


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