Pro and Con 1104

Posted 3-11-04

"Amazing Blue Band Around Jupiter!"

Presenter: Mike Corkill, Researcher: Kate Follington, 3-3-04

Blue Feature Appears on Jupiter

(MAR 4) Amateur astronomers report the appearance of a subtle, elongated bluish feature in Jupiter's atmosphere. The blue stripe is located between the planet's Equarorial Zone and South Equatorial Belt and spans 40 of longitude. Observers report the new feature is easiest to see near Jupiter's limb.

...The first hint that that something unusual was taking place in the cloudy Jovian atmosphere came from Spanish amateur when he reported that a small, bicolored feature was formingt in the Southern Hemisphere a little over 2 weeks ago. NOW, this disturbance has stretched, what looks like, right around the planet!...

My comment

Is it a sign? It wasn't blue when this picture was taken.

Incoming e-mail, Re: John 1:1

> > According to the order of the Greek words, it says, "and God was the Word."

I see you didn't read it for yourself, but rather appealed to others for your understanding. Again, this makes me so sad because with just a little effort you could have accomplished this on your own.

Here is the correct rendering from the Greek:

En arche en ho Logos, kai ho Logos en pros tonTheon, kai theos en ho Logos.

Here is the correct rendering in the English (parentheses are my notes for better understanding for those who don't know Greek):

In the beginning was the word (the expression of Divine logic), and the Word was toward God (in communion with God, or in movement towards...a yearning for unity), and God was what the word was (was as to His essence).

The Greek does not say that the word was with God and it does not say that the word was God. I know you have reference materials so I would ask you to look at this closely.

Strong's Ref. # 4314
a strengthened form of GSN4253; a preposition of direction; forward to, i.e. toward (with the genitive case the side of, i.e. pertaining to; with the dative case by the side of, i.e. near to; usually with the accusative case the place, time, occasion, or respect, which is the destination of the relation, i.e. whither or for which it is predicated).

All I asked was that you read it with your own eyes. The word isn't "with" God but moving towards God in an effort towards unity, like I said in previous emails. The word and God were face-to-face so to speak.

And then, instead of simply reading what the Greek said, you started to appeal to a bunch of other scriptures to misdirect my request. Marilyn, it was a simple request really. It was totally fair in nature.

Truth doesn't need help Marilyn. Truth stands on its own and withstands all attacks without the intervention of people. Just read it as it is written and let the penny drop where it may.

My reply

In the last phrase of John 1:1, "kai theos en ho logos," the definite predicate nominative "theos" would have the article if it followed the verb; but it does not take the article when it precedes the verb, as in this case.

I believe that the Word is God. I believe that "the Word was made flesh, and dwelt among us" as Yeshua/Jesus. John 1:14 says, "the Word was made flesh, and dwelt among us, (and we beheld his glory, the glory as of the only begotten of the Father,) full of grace and truth." Some people stumble at this verse.

I'm sorry that you don't see it that way. I just hope that you don't stub your toe on John 1:1 and fail to see that there are many other verses that teach the deity of the Son of God. If you can't see it in one, you can pick it up from the others. Clues are sprinkled throughout Scripture, both in the Tanach (Old Testament) and the Brit Hadashah (New Testament).

Col. 2:9 flat out says of Christ, "IN HIM DWELLETH ALL THE FULNESS OF THE GODHEAD BODILY." That's plain enough for me. In John 10:30, Jesus said, "I and my Father are one." I believe it.

II Cor. 5:19 says, "GOD WAS IN CHRIST, reconciling the world unto himself."

I'm thoroughly convinced that the Son of God is God Almighty, "the first AND the last," YHVH King of Israel and YHVH of hosts our Redeemer.

I believe Isa. 44:6. It says, "Thus saith the LORD (YHVH) the King of Israel, AND his redeemer the LORD (YHVH) of hosts; I am the first (YHVH the King of Israel), AND I am the last (YHVH of hosts, his redeemer); and beside me there is no God (Elohim)."

In Hebrew, when "hayah," a form of "to be," is used, it denotes change. When "hayah" is not used, it is to be supplied by the reader. It's absence shows that at that point there is no change.

Isa. 12:2 says, "Behold, God (El) is my salvation (YESHUAH); I will trust, and not be afraid: for the LORD (YHVH) JEHOVAH is my strength and my song; HE ALSO IS BECOME (hayah, denoting change) MY SALVATION (YESHUAH)."

Psa 118:14 says, "The LORD (YHVH) is my strength and song, and IS BECOME (hayah; denoting change) MY SALVATION (YESHUAH)."

Psa 118:21 says, "I will praise thee: for thou hast heard me, and ART BECOME (hayah, denoting change) MY SALVATION (YESHUAH).

Ex. 15:2 The LORD (YHVH) is my strength and song, AND HE IS BECOME (hayah; denoting change) MY SALVATION (YESHUAH): he is my God (El), and I will prepare him an habitation; my father's God (Elohim), and I will exalt him."

God called the Son God. Heb. 1:8-10 says, "But unto THE SON he saith, Thy throne, O GOD, is for ever and ever: a sceptre of righteousness is the sceptre of thy kingdom."

I John 5:20 says, "we know that the SON OF GOD is come, and hath given us an understanding, that we may know him that is true, and we are in him that is true, even in HIS SON JESUS CHRIST. THIS IS THE TRUE GOD, and eternal life."

Titus 2:13 says, "Looking for that blessed hope (the Pre-Trib Rapture), and the glorious APPEARING (it is the Son of God that appears to mankind) of the great GOD AND OUR SAVIOUR JESUS CHRIST."

Isa. 9:6 says, "For unto us a child is born (Yeshua/Jesus), inheriting his human nature from his mother), unto us a SON is given (inheriting his deity from his Father): and the government shall be upon his shoulder: and HIS NAME shall be called Wonderful, Counsellor, THE MIGHTY GOD, THE EVERLASTING FATHER, The Prince of Peace."

Isa. 52:5,6 says, "what have I here, saith the LORD (YHVH), that my people (Israel) is taken away for nought? they that rule over them make them to howl, saith the LORD; and my name (YHVH, Yahweh) continually every day is blasphemed (pronounced Adonai or HaShem?). Therefore MY PEOPLE SHALL KNOW MY NAME: therefore they shall know in that day that I AM HE THAT DOTH SPEAK (YHVH is he, the Son of God, the spokesman that interacts with mankind): behold, it is I."

Isa. 52:10 and 53:1 say, "The LORD (YHVH) hath made bare HIS HOLY ARM (Yeshua) in the eyes of all the nations; and all the ends of the earth shall see the salvation (yeshuah) of our God....Who hath believed our report? and to whom is the ARM OF THE LORD revealed?" He was revealed to Israel.

Psa. 62:5,6 says, "My soul, wait thou only upon God; for my expectation is from him. He (God) only is my rock (Yeshua/Jesus Christ) and my salvation (yeshuah): he is my defence; I shall not be moved."

I Cor. 10:4 says, "And did all drink the same spiritual drink: for they (Israel) drank of that spiritual Rock that followed them: and that Rock was Christ."

Psa. 89:26 says, "He shall cry unto me, Thou art my father, my God, and the rock (Yeshua, Christ) of my salvation (yeshuah)."

Psa. 98:2 says, "The LORD (YHVH) hath made known his salvation (yeshuah): his righteousness hath he openly shewed in the SIGHT of the heathen."

The Son of God is the one of the Godhead that can be seen. "No man hath seen God at any time, the only begotten Son, which is in the bosom of the Father, he hath DECLARED him" (John 1:18).

In Rev. 1:8,17, Jesus said, "I am Alpha (the first letter of Greek alphabet) and Omega (the last letter), the beginning (Lord of the Old Testament) and the ending (Lord of the New Testament), saith the Lord (Yeshua/Jesus Christ), which is (at the Pre-Trib Rapture), and which was (at the First Advent), and which is to come (at the Second Advent), THE ALMIGHTY....And when I saw him (Yeshua/Christ), I fell at his feet as dead. And he laid his right hand (he is God's arm and right hand, Isa. 52:10; 53:1) upon me, saying unto me, Fear not; I am the first AND the last."

Psa. 118:20-22 says, "This gate (the 'strait gate' of Mt. 7:13) of the LORD (YHVH), into which THE RIGHTEOUS SHALL ENTER. I will praise thee: for thou hast heard me, and ART BECOME MY SALVATION (YESHUAH).The stone which the builders refused (Yeshua/Jesus) is become the head stone of the corner" (the Earth). I think the corner is the back edge of the Tabernacle. The widths sewn together to make the curtain represented the planets, and the width representing Earth was draped over the back corner of the Tabernacle.

After the Pre-Trib Rapture, Rev. 4:2-5:6 says, "immediately I was in the spirit: and, behold, a throne was set in heaven, and one (the Son of God, the one that can be seen) sat on the throne. And he that sat was to LOOK UPON like a jasper (the first stone in the breastplate) and a sardine stone (the last stone in the breastplate, i.e., the Son of God is the First [King of Israel] AND the Last [Yeshua, the YHVH of hosts, the Redeemer, Isa. 44:6]): and there was a rainbow round about the throne (i.e., the Sun shining on the ice-crystal rings around Saturn), in sight like unto an emerald (stone of Judah, of whom the Messiah was to come)....The four and twenty elders fall down before him that sat on the throne, and worship him (the Son of God) that liveth for ever and ever, and cast their crowns before the throne, saying, Thou art worthy, O Lord, to receive glory and honour and power: for THOU HAST CREATED ALL THINGS (John 1:3, Heb. 1:2), and for thy pleasure they are and were created....And the four beasts had each of them six wings about him; and they were full of eyes (full orbs) within: and they rest not day and night, saying, Holy, holy, holy, LORD God ALMIGHTY, which was (at the First Advent), and is (at the Pre-Trib Rapture), and is to come" (at the Second Advent)....behold, the Lion of the tribe of Juda, the Root of David (YHVH), hath prevailed to open the book, and to loose the seven seals...I beheld, and, lo, IN THE MIDST OF THE THRONE and of the four beasts, and in the midst of the elders, stood a Lamb (representing Yeshua the Lamb of God) as it had been slain, having seven (God's number of completion and perfection) horns (i.e., the Son of God is all-powerful, omnipotent) and seven eyes (i.e., he is all-seeing, omniscient), which are the seven Spirits of God sent forth into all the earth (i.e., he is omnipresent)....And every creature which is in heaven, and on the earth, and under the earth, and such as are in the sea, and all that are in them, heard I saying, Blessing, and honour, and glory, and power, be unto him (YHVH. the Son of God) that sitteth upon the throne, and unto the Lamb (Yeshua) for ever and ever."

Rev. 11:17 says, "Saying, We give thee thanks, O LORD GOD ALMIGHTY, which art (on Jesus' Coronation Day, Tishri 1, the Feast of Trumpets), and wast (at the First Advent), and art to come (at the Second Advent 7 months later, on Nisan 1, the 1st day of the Jewish Regnal and Sacred Year, Eze. 39:12,13); because thou hast taken to thee thy great power, and hast reigned."

Rev. 16:4 says, "they are the spirits of devils, working miracles, which go forth unto the kings of the earth and of the whole world, to gather them to the battle of that great day of GOD ALMIGHTY."

Rev. 21:22 says, "And I saw no temple therein: for the Lord God ALMIGHTY (YHVH, the Son of God) and the Lamb (Yeshua, the son of God) are the temple of it.

When "Abram was ninety years old and nine, the LORD APPEARED (then it is the Son of God) to Abram, and said unto him, I AM THE ALMIGHTY GOD; walk before me, and be thou perfect" (Gen. 17:1).

Gen. 35:11 says, "And God SAID unto him, I AM GOD ALMIGHTY: be fruitful and multiply; a nation and a company of nations shall be of thee, and kings shall come out of thy loins."

Gen. 48:3 says, "Jacob said unto Joseph, GOD ALMIGHTY APPEARED unto me at Luz in the land of Canaan, and blessed me." Then it's the Son of God that appeared. He is the one that interacts with man.

Ex. 6:3 says, " I APPEARED (so it's the Son of God) unto Abraham, unto Isaac, and unto Jacob, by the name of GOD ALMIGHTY, but by my name JEHOVAH (YHVH) was I not known to them."

Job 27:11 says, "I will teach you by the hand of God: that which is with the Almighty will I not conceal."

Job 31:2 says, "For what portion of God is there from above? and what inheritance of THE ALMIGHTY from on high (i.e., from Heaven)?"

Job 33:4 says, "The spirit of God hath made me, and the breath of THE ALMIGHTY hath given me life." The Spirit of God is the Spirit of Christ. Rom. 8:9 says, "But ye are not in the flesh, but in the Spirit, if so be that the SPIRIT OF GOD dwell in you. Now if any man have not the SPIRIT OF CHRIST, he is none of his."

Psa. 91:1 says, "He that dwelleth in the secret place of the most High shall abide under the shadow of THE ALMIGHTY."

Isa. 13:6 says, "Howl ye; for the day of the LORD (YHVH) is at hand; it shall come as a destruction from THE ALMIGHTY."

II Cor. 6:18 says, "And will be a Father unto you, and ye shall be my sons and daughters, saith the Lord ALMIGHTY."

I believe that the Son of God is the member of the Godhead that has interacted with man from Adam on. He has been heard , seen and felt. For instance, he was heard by Moses at the burning bush, seen by Abraham just before Lot was brought out of Sodom, and felt when Jacob wrestled with him through the night. I think the latter represents Israel's "wrestling" with Him during the 70th week of Dan. 9:27, the coming Tribulation. At the end, Yeshua will bless Israel, as YHVH blessed Jacob.

I believe that the Angel of the LORD is the Son of God. Gen. 16:11 says, " the angel of the LORD (YHVH) said (the Son of God is the spokesman) unto her, Behold, thou art with child and shalt bear a son, and shalt call his name Ishmael; because the LORD (YHVH) hath heard thy affliction."

Phil. 2:5-11 says, "Christ Jesus: Who, being IN THE FORM (en morphe, the form by which a person strikes the vision) OF GOD, thought it not robbery to be equal with God: But made himself of no reputation, and took upon him the form of a servant, and was made in the likeness of men: And being found in fashion as a man, he humbled himself, and became obedient unto death, even the death of the cross. Wherefore God also hath highly exalted him, and GIVEN HIM A NAME WHICH IS ABOVE EVERY NAME: THAT AT THE NAME OF JESUS EVERY KNEE SHOULD BOW, of things in heaven, and things in earth, and things under the earth; And that every tongue should confess that JESUS CHRIST IS LORD, to the glory of God the Father."

Isa. 45:21-23 says, " who hath told it from that time? have not I the LORD (YHVH)? and there is NO GOD ELSE BESIDE ME; A JUST GOD AND A SAVIOUR; there is none beside me. Look unto me, and be ye saved, all the ends of the earth: for I AM GOD, and there is none else. I have sworn by myself, the word is gone out of my mouth in righteousness, and shall not return, That UNTO ME (YHVH, the Son of God) EVERY KNEE SHALL BOW, every tongue shall swear."

Rom. 14:11 says, "For it is written, As I live, saith the Lord (YHVH), every knee shall bow to me (YHVH, the Son of God), and every tongue shall confess to God."

Psa. 2:7-12 says, "I will declare the decree: the LORD (YHVH) hath said unto me, THOU ART MY SON; this day have I begotten thee. Ask of me, and I shall give thee the heathen for thine inheritance, and the uttermost parts of the earth for thy possession. Thou shalt break them with a rod of iron; thou shalt dash them in pieces like a potter's vessel. Be wise now therefore, O ye kings: be instructed, ye judges of the earth. Serve the LORD (YHVH) with fear, and rejoice with trembling. KISS THE SON, lest he be angry, and ye perish from the way, when his wrath is kindled but a little. Blessed are all they that put their trust in him."

Jer. 23:5,6 says, "Behold, the days come, saith the LORD, that I will raise unto David a RIGHTEOUS BRANCH (Yeshua), and a King shall reign and prosper, and shall execute judgment and justice in the earth. In his days Judah shall be saved, and Israel shall dwell safely: and THIS IS HIS NAME whereby he shall be called, THE LORD OUR RIGHTEOUSNESS."

Isa. 48:16 says, "Come ye near unto me, hear ye this; I have not spoken in secret from the beginning; from the time that it was, there am I: and now the (1) Lord GOD, and his (2) Spirit, hath sent (3) me."

II Cor. 13:14 says, "The grace of the (1) Lord Jesus Christ, and the love of (2) God, and the communion of the (3) Holy Ghost, be with you all. Amen.." Shalom and agape

Scientists want to be ready to block asteroid from hitting Earth

...The Earth moves in space the equivalent of its own diameter in just six minutes. So to move an Earth-bound asteroid off target, it would be enough to delay its arrival time by six minutes, allowing it to harmlessly sweep past, Morrison said.

Incoming email, Re: Universal Salvation

Subject: "100 Scriptural Proofs That Jesus Christ Will Save All Mankind"
Written in 1840 by Thomas Whittemore.

Here are ioo Scriptures showing a Final, Universal Salvation. Can you find ANY Scriptures that contradict them without making the Bible itself look like a mass of contradictions? [Of course, "aion and olam" translated incorrectly as "eternal, everlasting, forever" in the modern English sense sure do make it so.]

My reply

I can find lots of scriptures that refute his opinions.

> > He would not have created intelligent beings, had he known they were to be forever miserable. To suppose that God would bring beings into existence who he knew would be infinite losers by that existence, is to charge him with the utmost he was not under any necessity to create man, being also infinitely benevolent, he could not have conferred an existence that he knew would end in the worst possible consequences to his creatures.

Pure supposition. Not backed up with Scripture. One of the essences of God is perfect justice. If his laws are broken, the wages of sin are death. We are being tested. Will we or won't we obey God? We have to choose. Rom. 6:23 says, "For the wages of sin is death; but the gift of God is eternal life through Jesus Christ our Lord." In Rom. 7:13, Jesus said, "Enter ye in at the strait gate: for wide is the gate, and BROAD IS THE WAY, THAT LEADETH TO DESTRUCTION, AND MANY THERE BE WHICH GO IN THEREAT."

> > God is the Father of all men; and, therefore, he cannot make mankind endlessly miserable.

He has no Scripture to back up his supposition.

> > It is THE WILL of God that all men shall be saved. "Who will have all men to be saved, and come unto the knowledge of the truth." KJV 1Tim. 2:4 By "all men", in this passage, is undoubtedly to be understood all the human race. Salvation comes through the belief of the truth. God wills that all men should come to the knowledge of the truth, and be saved thereby. > > God gave all beings to Christ that he might save them. "Thou hast given him power over all flesh, that he should give eternal life to as many as thou hast given him." John 17:2 This plainly evinces, that it was God's design, in giving Christ dominion over all flesh, that they should all enjoy eternal life.

Eternal life is only given to "as many as thou hast given him."

We are given free choice. God does not bend us to his will against our will. If he did, we would be robots and there would be no evil in the world. God would be pleased if all men were saved, but he has set before us two ways, two gates.

The one that does not have faith in Christ does not have the salvation that is given to every one that believes.

In Rom. 1:16,17, Paul said, "I am not ashamed of the gospel of Christ: for it is the power of God unto SALVATION TO EVERY ONE THAT BELIEVETH; to the Jew first, and also to the Greek. For therein is the righteousness of God revealed FROM FAITH TO FAITH: as it is written, THE JUST SHALL LIVE BY FAITH."

Hab. 2:3-6 says, "the vision is yet for an appointed time, but at the end it shall speak, and not lie: though it tarry, wait for it; because it will surely come, it will not tarry. Behold, his (the Beast of Rev. 13:2-10) soul which is lifted up is not upright in him: but THE JUST SHALL LIVE BY HIS FAITH (Christianity). Yea also, because he transgresseth by wine, he is a proud man, neither keepeth at home, who enlargeth his desire as hell (Satan), and is as death (the False Prophet, Rev. 6:8), and cannot be satisfied, but gathereth unto him all nations (as head of the UN), and heapeth unto him all people (as head of the United Religions): Shall not all these take up a parable against him, and a taunting proverb against him, and say, Woe to him that increaseth that which is not his! how long?" (42 months, 1st half of the Tribulation, Rev. 13:5).

Rom. 6:14,15,23 says, "ye are not under the law but under grace. What then? shall we sin, because we (Christians) are not under the law, but UNDER GRACE? God forbid...For the wages of sin is death (i.e., to unbelievers); but THE GIFT OF GOD IS ETERNAL LIFE (i.e., to believers) THROUGH JESUS CHRIST OUR LORD."

Only believers are quickened. Rom. 8:9,10 says, "But the Spirit of God dwell in you. Now IF ANY MAN HAVE NOT THE SPIRIT OF CHRIST, HE IS NONE OF HIS. AND IF CHRIST BE IN YOU, THE BODY IS DEAD BECAUSE OF SIN; BUT THE SPIRIT IS LIFE BECAUSE OF RIGHTEOUSNESS. But if the Spirit of him that raised up Jesus from the dead dwell in you, he that raised up Christ from the dead shall also QUICKEN YOUR MORTAL BODIES BY HIS SPIRIT THAT DWELLETH IN YOU."

Rom. 3:22 says, "the righteousness of God which is BY FAITH OF JESUS CHRIST UNTO ALL AND UPON ALL THEM THAT BELIEVE."

Rom. 3:25,26 says, "THROUGH FAITH IN HIS BLOOD to declare his righteousness for the remission of sins that are past...that he might be just, and the justifier of HIM WHICH BELIEVETH IN JESUS."

Rom. 3:28 says, "A MAN IS JUSTIFIED BY FAITH."


Rom. 4:20-24 says that Abraham "staggered not at the promise of God through unbelief; but was strong in faith, giving glory to God...therefore it was imputed to him for righteousness....for us also, to whom IT SHALL BE IMPUTED, IF WE BELIEVE on him that raised up Jesus our Lord from the dead; Who was delivered for our offences, and was raised again FOR OUR JUSTIFICATION."

Rom. 5:1,2 says, "being JUSTIFIED BY FAITH, we have peace with God through our Lord Jesus Christ: By whom also WE HAVE ACCESS BY FAITH INTO THIS GRACE wherein we stand, and rejoice in hope of the glory of God."

> > 1st. God hath given all things to Christ. 2d. All that God hath given him shall come to him; and 3d. him that cometh he will in nowise cast out. All are given; all shall come; and none shall be cast out. What is the unavoidable conclusion?

Not what he thinks. We are being tested. I Peter 1:7 says, That THE TRIAL OF YOUR FAITH, being much more precious than of gold that perisheth, though it be tried with fire, might be found unto praise and honour and glory at the appearing of Jesus Christ."

> > God has no other will besides the will to save all men. "He is in one mind, and who can turn him." Job 23:13.

Read the context. Isn't it God's will that we are being tested? and if tested given the freedom to choose? Job 23:10-14 says, "But he knoweth the way that I take: WHEN HE HATH TRIED ME, I shall come forth as gold. My foot hath held his steps, his way have I kept, and not declined. Neither have I gone back from the commandment of his lips; I have esteemed the words of his mouth more than my necessary food. But he is in one mind, and who can turn him? and what his soul desireth, even that he doeth. For HE PERFORMETH THE THING THAT IS APPOINTED FOR ME."

Heb. 9:27 says, "IT IS APPOINTED UNTO MEN ONCE TO DIE, BUT AFTER THIS THE JUDGMENT." You are trying to change this decree, but nowhere are we told we get a second chance. You are up against a block wall.

> > God must have created only to bless. "Love worketh no ill."

But God was not poured into this mold. Man has to choose which gate he will go through. Way back in De. 30:7,19, man was told that "the LORD thy GOD WILL PUT ALL THESE CURSES UPON THINE ENEMIES, and on them that hate thee, which persecuted thee....I call heaven and earth to record this day against you, that I HAVE SET BEFORE YOU LIFE AND DEATH, BLESSING AND CURSING: THEREFORE CHOOSE LIFE, that both thou and thy seed may live." Man still has this choice to make.

> > God has purposed the salvation of all men. "Having made known unto us the mystery of his will, according to his good pleasure, which he hath purposed in himself, that in the dispensation of the fullness of times, he might gather together in one all things in Christ, both which are in heaven, and which are on earth, even in him." (Eph. 1:9,10)

It is "all things IN CHRIST," not all men. Only believers are in Christ.

Rom. 3:24 says, "Being JUSTIFIED freely by his grace through the REDEMPTION THAT IS IN CHRIST JESUS."

Rom. 8:1,2 says, "There is therefore now NO CONDEMNATION TO THEM WHICH ARE IN CHRIST JESUS, who walk not after the flesh, but after the Spirit. For THE LAW OF THE SPIRIT OF LIFE IN CHRIST JESUS HATH MADE ME FREE FROM THE LAW OF SIN AND DEATH." All are under the law of sin and death until they accept Christ.


II Tim. 3:15 speaks of our, "SALVATION THROUGH FAITH which is in Christ Jesus."

> > Isaiah represented, that there was no sin which might not be pardoned. "Though you sins be as scarlet, they shall be as white as snow; though they be red like crimson, they shall be as wool." (Isa. 1:18) The evident intent of this language is, that there was no sin so deep-dyed in the soul, that it could not be washed away. That is here said of Israel, is true of every individual.

Mt. 12:32 says, "whosoever speaketh against the Holy Ghost, it SHALL NOT BE FORGIVEN HIM, neither in this world, neither in the world to come."

> > He furthermore declares, that "God shall wipe away all tears from their eyes ; and THERE SHALL BE NO MORE DEATH, neither sorrow, nor crying ; neither shall there be any more pain ; for the former things are passed away." (Rev. 21:4) Thus, we see the doctrine of eternal weeping, eternal sighing, eternal sorrow, eternal pain, is false; false as the Bible is true. And, although we read, in the Scriptures, of the second death, yet, if we read of thirty deaths, it would be no argument against Universalism, since the time is to come, when "THERE SHALL BE NO MORE DEATH."

Rev. 21:8 says, "But the fearful, and UNBELIEVING, and the abominable, and murderers, and whoremongers, and sorcerers, and idolaters, and all liars, SHALL HAVE THEIR PART IN THE LAKE WHICH BURNETH WITH FIRE and brimstone: which is the second death."

> > (1 Cor. 15:54,55) At the resurrection of the dead, then, God will destroy Sheol, HELL. He does not raise His creatures from the dead in order to punish them forever in sheol,(Hell) for sheol (Hell) shall then be destroyed.

Don't listen to this guy. The word Hell doesn't appear in I Cor. 15:54,55, much less its destruction. Rev. 20:14,15 says, "DEATH AND HELL WERE CAST INTO THE LAKE OF FIRE. This is the second death (i.e., death of the soul, not the spirit). And WHOSOEVER WAS NOT FOUND WRITTEN IN THE BOOK OF LIFE WAS CAST INTO THE LAKE OF FIRE." Those in hell wind up in the Lake of Fire.

Rev. 20:10 says, "And the devil that deceived them was cast into the LAKE OF FIRE and brimstone, where the beast and the false prophet are, AND SHALL BE TORMENTED DAY AND NIGHT FOR EVER AND EVER."

Isa. 66:24 says, "And they shall go forth, and look upon the carcases of the men that have transgressed against me: for THEIR WORM SHALL NOT DIE, NEITHER SHALL THEIR FIRE BE QUENCHED; and they shall be an abhorring unto all flesh."

Mark 9:43-48 says, "if thy hand offend thee, cut it off: it is better for thee to enter into life maimed, than having two hands to go into hell, into THE FIRE THAT NEVER SHALL BE QUENCHED:
44 Where their worm dieth not, and THE FIRE IS NOT QUENCHED.
45 And if thy foot offend thee, cut it off: it is better for thee to enter halt into life, than having two feet to be cast into hell, into THE FIRE THAT NEVER SHALL BE QUENCHED:
46 Where their worm dieth not, and THE FIRE IS NOT QUENCHED.
47 And if thine eye offend thee, pluck it out: it is better for thee to enter into the kingdom of God with one eye, than having two eyes to be cast into hell fire:

John 5:28,29 says, "for the hour is coming, in the which all that are in the graves shall hear his voice, And shall come forth; they that have done good, unto the resurrection of life; and they that have done evil, unto the resurrection of damnation."

If the "resurrection of life" is forever, the "resurrection of damnation" is forever.

Isa. 51:6 says, "my SALVATION SHALL BE FOR EVER, and my righteousness SHALL NOT BE ABOLISHED." Agape

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