Pro and Con 1130

Posted 6-15-04

Just in case the Rapture would come sooner than I think it will, I want be sure to thank all the wonderful people out there that have made this possible by helping us out financially through the worst of times. We wouldn't have made it this far without you and the Lord. May God bless you richly every one. I wish I could thank you face to face. I'll never forget the time Ed came to me holding out a check. He had tears in his eyes as he said softly, "He sent it to me." Thanks so much. We will never forget you. That got us over that hump. I wouldn't even have this computer, monitor and trac ball if it wasn't for some of you. Believe me, I'm very grateful.

Someone asked for an update on Ed each week. Sorry, I haven't done that, but here's an update. Ed is 80 now and can hardly walk because of Parkinsons Disease, but is fine otherwise. He still exercises at Cardiac Rehab, just not on the treadmill, and not always on the steps. He does everything in slow motion. I thought he had lost strength in his hands, but the doctor gripped his hand and said he didn't think he lost strength, he was just slow. Well, he is more clumsy when he tries to do certain things with his hands. He is very lucky to not have much tremor. It could be much worse. I have some lingering pain in my back and hip, but am doing better than expected. I am 75. We seem to have our diabetes under control, mine with diet, his with pills.

2nd Temple pool found

By ETGAR LEFKOVITS, Updated Jun. 10, 2004

...The Pool of Siloam was uncovered last week by chance at the southern end of the City of David in what today is Silwan...

Planet Venus takes starring role 6-8-04 The second planet has begun to move in front of the Sun - an event so rare it has occurred only six times since the invention of the telescope.

My comments


"The heavens declare the glory of God; and the firmament (expanse of space) sheweth his handy work. Day unto day uttereth speech, and night unto night sheweth knowledge. There is no speech nor language, where their voice is not heard" (Psa. 19:1-3).

The Jewish year 5768 was the 480th year since Martin Luther sparked the Reformation by tacking his 95 theses to the church door in Wittenburg, Germany in 5278 (Oct. 31, 1517). Since it was 480 Theocratic years from the Exodus to the time construction began on the temple, I thought 1998 would be the year of the Pre-Trib Rapture. We are the temple of the Holy Spirit.

It seems that the 7-year countdown to the Rapture had begun. But, just as Jacob had to wait 7 more years for Rachel, Jesus will wait 7 more years before the Rapture of the Bride of Christ takes place.

In Gen 1:14, "God said, Let there be LIGHTS (i.e., Sun, Moon, planets, stars, comets, asteroids, meteors, galaxies, nebulae, lightning and rainbows) in the firmament (expanse of space) of the heaven (lit., heavens) to divide the day from the night; and LET THEM BE FOR SIGNS, and for seasons, and for days, and years." The Sun, Moon and stars are for signs to define the calendar and for keeping time. However, these functions are obviously not what is meant by Luke:21:25. For us to recognize these signs, they must be something unusual.

Luke 11,21:25,28 says, "GREAT SIGNS SHALL THERE BE FROM HEAVEN...And THERE SHALL BE SIGNS IN THE SUN, AND IN THE MOON, AND IN THE STARS (lit., CONSTELLATIONS); and upon the earth distress of nations, with perplexity; the sea and the waves roaring...And when these things BEGIN to come to pass, then look up, and lift up your heads; for your redemption (apolutrosis, a loosing away, i.e., being caught up in the Rapture) draweth nigh."

Here are some of signs that were in the heavens in 1998.
NASA's Polar Spacecraft Confirms ...
Small Comets are Pelting Earth
Submitted by:
June, 1998

A series of spectacular images produced by state-of-the-art cameras on NASA's Polar spacecraft have confirmed that Earth is being pelted by thousands of small comets each day. These never-before-seen images establish the physical reality of the house-sized "snowballs" that weigh tens of tons, break up as they approach Earth, and deposit large clouds of water vapor in the upper atmosphere.

These Earthbound comets, however, represent no threat to either people on the ground or in orbit as these objects disintegrate far above the Earth's atmosphere. "In fact," says Louis A. Frank, the University of Iowa space physicist who first proposed the existence of these small comets more than a decade ago, "this relatively gentle cosmic rain and its possible simple organic compounds may well have nurtured the development of life on our planet."

"The Polar results definitively demonstrate that there are objects entering Earth's upper atmosphere that contain a lot of water," says University of Michigan professor Thomas Donahue, one of the world's leading authorities on atmospheric science.

"Images like this show that we have a large population of objects in Earth's vicinity that have not been detected before," notes Frank.
Submitted by:
Date: June, 1998

"...a woman clothed with the sun..." -- With today's astronomy programs it's possible to re-create the various alignments of the constellations and planets on any given day. So we became curious as to what John may have been witnessing when he saw this "great wonder" in heaven. (Oct, 1998)

Asteroid 3288 Seleucus -- "...Antiochus IV, king of Syria (a king of the Seleucid dynasty who sacrificed a pig on the altar--abomination of desolation ... (July, 1998)...

Hydra -- (Rev 12:3,4) And there appeared another wonder in heaven; and behold a great red dragon, having seven heads and ten horns, and seven crowns upon his heads. And his tail drew the third part of the stars of heaven, and did cast them to the earth: and the dragon stood before the woman which was eady to be delivered, for to devour her child as soon as it was born. (June, 1998)

Rev 12:15 Flood -- A series of spectacular images produced by state-of-the-art cameras on NASA's Polar spacecraft have confirmed that Earth is being pelted by thousands of small comets each day. These never-before-seen images establish the physical reality of the house-sized "snowballs" that weigh tens of tons, break up as they approach Earth, and deposit large clouds of water vapor in the upper atmosphere. (June, 1998)

The Tail of the Dragon -- " of the repeated themes in the myth of the prototypical comet is that it appears as a divine weapon hurled against rebelling powers." (June, 1998)

Hail, Hale-Bopp! -- Whilst listening to an audio file on the net regarding "Prophecy of the Stars," the speaker outlined how he had plotted the course of comet Hyakutake (hi-yah-coo-tah-key), taking note of each constellation that it had passed through. Armed with a copy of E. W. Bullinger's "Witness of the Stars," he threaded the meaning of each constellation together in the order of the comet's path and came up with the following... (May, 1998)

The Womans as Virgo (Parts 1 & 2) -- The fact that the woman in Revelation 12:1-2 is clothed with the sun indicates that she is hidden - exactly what happens when the sun is in the constellation Virgo. (May, 1998)

Double Occultation of Venus and Jupiter -- Astronomers have observed an event that has not been witnessed from earth for more than 1,000 years - the Moon simultaneously passing in front of Venus and Jupiter. (May, 1998)

Alignment of Planets -- The moon and eight of the planets will be lined up in the sky this week "like pearls on a string" in a sight that won't be visible again from Earth for at least another century. (May, 1998)
The Bible mentions the seven stars of the Pleiades, Orion, Arcturus, the "Great Bear" #Am 5:8 Job 9:9 Job 38:31 "the crooked serpent," Draco #Job 26:13 the Dioscuri, or Gemini, "Castor and Pollux" #Ac 28:11 (#Ps 8:1 ff #Ps 19:1-6 Is 51:6

Precession of the equinoxes. Earth has a "wobble (technically "precession"). This means that while the tilt between Earth's axis and orbit stays the same, the direction of the axes execute a circular motion with a period of 26,000 years."

The signs of the "mazzaroth" (Zodiac) move forward throughout the years, coming full circle in 26,000 years. That is close to shifting one sign every 2000 years.

The star signs move forward through the year, making a full circle once in 26,000 years, which is close to shift by one sign every 2000 years. The present Zodiac was introduced at Roman times, at the very beginning of Common Era. Since then about 2000 years have passed and the signs moved forward among the dates by about one sign. So if one's "official" sign is Libra, chances are that the Sun was in constellation Virgo at the time of his/her birth. The same applies to all other signs.

Job is the oldest book in the Bible. Job 9:8,9 speaks of God, "Which alone spreadeth out the heavens, and treadeth upon the waves of the sea. Which maketh ARCTURUS, ORION, AND PLEIADES, and the chambers of the south."

In Job 38:31-35 the LORD said, "Canst thou bind the sweet influences of PLEIADES, or loose the bands of ORION? Canst thou bring forth MAZZAROTH IN HIS SEASON (Christ's)? or canst thou guide ARCTURUS with his sons? Knowest thou the ORDINANCES OF HEAVEN? CANST THOU SET THE DOMINION THEREOF IN THE EARTH? Canst thou lift up thy voice to the clouds, that abundance of waters may cover thee? Canst thou send lightnings, that they may go and say unto thee, Here we are?"

Amos 5:8 says, "Seek him (YHWH YAHshua) that maketh THE SEVEN STARS (i.e., the naked-eye stars of the PLEIADES) and ORION, and turneth the shadow of death into the morning, and maketh the day dark with night: that calleth for the waters of the sea, and poureth them out upon the face of the earth: The LORD is his name."

Mazzaroth means the constellations in the Zodiac. The Zodiac tells the story of Christ. It was in use before the Bible was written, because it was God's picture book for those that can't read. Knowledge of the original Zodiac drawn by Adam, Seth and Enoch under the inspiration of God is found throughout the world.

Writing of Adam, Seth and his descendants, Josephus said, "Now this Seth, when he was brought up, and came to those years in which he could discern what was good, became a virtuous man; and as he was himself of an excellent character, so did he leave children behind him who imitated his virtues....THEY ALSO WERE THE INVENTORS OF THAT PECULIAR SORT OF WISDOM WHICH IS CONCERNED WITH THE HEAVENLY BODIES, AND THEIR ORDER" (Ant. I. II. 3).

In III. 9, Josephus said, "God afforded them a longer time of life on account of their virtue, and the good use they made of it in astronomical and geometrical discoveries, which would not have afforded the time of foretelling [the periods of the stars] unless they had lived six hundred years; for THE GREAT YEAR IS COMPLETED IN THAT INTERVAL."

Rom. 1:20 says, "For the invisible things of him from the creation of the world are clearly seen, being understood by the THINGS THAT ARE MADE, even his eternal power and Godhead; so that they are without excuse."

Now that we know all that, there are still two things concerning this to research.
2. "Canst thou bring forth MAZZAROTH IN HIS SEASON (Christ's)? or canst thou guide ARCTURUS with his sons? Knowest thou the ORDINANCES OF HEAVEN? CANST THOU SET THE DOMINION THEREOF IN THE EARTH?

Psalm 147:4: "He tells the number of the stars; he calls them all by their names."

Genesis 9:12-13, God put a special sign in the sky. God said, "This is the sign of the covenant I am making between me and you and every living creature with you, a covenant for all generations to come: I have set MY RAINBOW in the clouds, and IT WILL BE THE SIGN of the covenant between me (in Heaven) and the earth."

God's own rainbow is around Heaven (Saturn). It is made up of sunshine on ice crystals the same as the rainbow he puts in our clouds here on Earth.

"The heavens declare the glory of God; the skies proclaim the work of His hands" (Psalm 19:1).

Incoming email

Wow, you really found some fascinating things! It makes sense that Satan would be trying to put all sorts of "red herrings" out about what he thinks is going to happen and when! Still, it's interesting to try and discern what is false and what is true by testing it with scripture.

Thanks and God bless! Agape

Incoming email

It says, "anyone who is able to connect to the Oneness of All at the time of the Celebration will become a living incarnation of Quetzalcoatl. To become real the energy of Quetzalcoatl (the serpent, i.e., Satan) must manifest in human beings." Demon-possession of man is what Satanic religions aim for by devious means.

Isn't the false prophet going to be satan possessed.Is he the only one to be able to"connect to the Oneness of All.And,when does this time of Celebration take place.Does the timing coincide with the timing of when he stands up declaring to be God?

My reply

Yes. The False Prophet will be the last person that will be Satan possessed, Judas Iscariot was the first. The time will be when the False Prophet pretends to be God in the middle of the Tribulation.

II Thess. 2:4 says that the False Prophet "opposeth and exalteth himself above all that is called God, or that is worshipped; so that he as God sitteth in the temple of God, shewing himself that he is God."

The False Prophet will be Satan possessed. Satan will enter into him as soon as that old serpent is cast out of Heaven into the Earth Mid-Trib. Rev. 12:9 says, "the great dragon was cast out, that old serpent, called the Devil, and Satan, which deceiveth the whole world: he was cast out into the earth, and his angels were cast out with him."

Rev. 17:8 says, "The beast (the 'scarlet coloured beast', i.e., Satan, v. 3) that thou sawest was (in Judas Iscariot, the first 'son of perdition,' John 17:12), and is not (in man now); and shall ascend out of the bottomless pit (Mid-Trib), and GO INTO perdition (i.e., enter into the False Prophet, the last 'son of perdition,' II Thess. 2:3): and they that dwell on the earth shall wonder, whose names were not written in the book of life from the foundation of the world, when they behold the beast (i.e., Satan) that was (in Judas Iscariot), and is not (in man now), and yet is" (exists). Agape

My outgoing e-mail, Re: Gaza dismantlement

> > All 21 Gaza settlements will be dismantled and 7,500 Jews will be removed from their homes. WHAT a TERRIBLE BETRAYAL!

Maybe God wants to get the Jews out of Gaza for their own protection. Zeph. 2:1-5 says, "Gather yourselves together, yea, gather together, O nation (Israel) not desired; Before the decree bring forth, before the day pass as the chaff, before the fierce anger of the LORD (i.e., Day of God's Wrath) come upon you, before the day of the LORD's anger come upon you. Seek ye the LORD, all ye meek of the earth, which have wrought his judgment; seek righteousness, seek meekness: it may be ye shall be hid (i.e., by being caught away before noon in the Rapture of the Tribulation saints) in the day of the LORD's anger. For GAZA SHALL BE FORSAKEN, AND ASHKELON A DESOLATION: they shall drive out Ashdod at the noon day, and Ekron shall be rooted up. Woe unto the inhabitants of the sea coast".

Rev. 8:8 supplies the puzzle piece we need to understand what will destroy Gaza. It says, "the second angel sounded, and as it were A GREAT MOUNTAIN BURNING WITH FIRE (i.e., a piece of a binary asteroid) was cast into the sea (the Mediterranean Sea): and the third part of the sea became blood." Eze. 38:18-20 tells us more details. It says, "it shall come to pass at the same time when Gog shall come against the land of Israel, saith the Lord GOD, that MY FURY shall come up in my face. For in my jealousy and in the fire of my wrath have I spoken, Surely in that day there shall be a great shaking in the land of Israel; So that the fishes of the sea (the Mediterranean), and the fowls of the heaven, and the beasts of the field, and all creeping things that creep upon the earth, and all the men that are upon the face of the earth, shall shake at my presence (paniym, face, i.e., the Sign of the Son of Man seen in the sky (Mt. 24:30; Rev. 6:14f), and the mountains (two main pieces of the binary asteroid, Zech. 5:1-4) shall be thrown down, and the steep places shall fall, and every wall shall fall to the ground."

Incoming email, Re: Possible dates

I still look at 1994 plus 21 hits equals 2015.
Sept. 13, 2015 plus 7 months April 9 2016.
10 years between raptures..2015-10=2005.
Sivan 3 ...June 10, 2005.
Road map sets 2005 as year for Palestinian State.
Dec. does not fit the scriptures you have used to look to the rapture, ie. Song of Soloman. How does Dec. fit with days of noe?.
Is Saturn a morning star on June 10, 2005?
Just a few thoughts.

My reply

Thanks for your kind words. I do keep watching. More time than I would like is spent searching the news, but how else would I know when signs appear?

> > I still look at 1994 plus 21 hits equals 2015.

WHY 1994 AND 21? There are good reasons. On July 16, 1994, the 21 pieces of the Shoemaker-Levy 9 comet started hitting Jupiter. They struck Jupiter 7 days, July 16-22, 1994. The number 7 means completion, suggesting the end of the age.

THE SIGN. The impact of that String of Pearls was so dramatic, it had to be a sign that the end times were nigh. No one had ever seen such a thing before. The force of the first impact was estimated at 200,000 megatons, more than all the atomic bombs in the world. It left a hole in Jupiter half the diameter of Earth.

On the day of completion, i.e., the Day of God's Wrath, the two asteroid pieces of Rev. 8:8 and 10, plus a hail of near 100-pound rocks (Rev. 16:21), will impact Earth. Because of the force of the impacts, the dead will lay around the Earth.

July 16 was the anniversary of the first atomic explosion on Earth. That explosion at Alamogordo, NM, gives us a rough idea of what the asteroid impacts of the Day of God's Wrath will be like. The worldwide earthquake will cause every wall to fall. The cities of the nations will be destroyed. Babylon will be annihilated.

Maybe your 1994 and 2015 are bookends, outer limits, i.e., the block of time within which the end-time events take place. To me, they aren't the exact times of the events.

On the Jewish calendar, July 16/17 was Av 9, when some buildings were set afire on the temple grounds in 70 AD. The sanctuary of Herod's temple burned on Av 10, the same day Solomon's temple was burned. The barrage on Jupiter continued through the 22nd.

Jer. 52:12,13 says, "Now in the fifth month, in the tenth day of the month (Av 10)...came Nebuzaradan, captain of the guard, which served the king of Babylon, into Jerusalem, And burned the house of the LORD, and the king's house; and all the houses of Jerusalem, and all the houses of the great men, burned he with fire."

In the past, I added 14 years to Sept. 13, 1993. That suggested that the Tribulation could start in 2000 and end on Sept. 13, 2007. Scotch that one. Here we are in 2004, and the Tribulation hasn't started yet. Time corrects our errors as we go along by showing us what doesn't apply.

Jacob (meaning supplanter), a type of Christ, worked for Laban (white) 7 years for Rachel (ewe, i.e., a female lamb), and was given Leah (languid). Then Jacob worked another 7 years for Rachel. After that, Jacob worked for Laban 6 more years for his share of the stock (Gen. 31:38,41).

Maybe the 14 years Jacob worked for his wives also brackets the end times. If the Pre-Trib Rapture is to take place Dec., 17, 2004, 7 years prior to that was Dec., 17,1997. Adding 14 years to Dec. 17, 2004 would be Dec. 17, 2011. We know that the Great Tribulation will be shortened.

Maybe the 7 years before the Pre-Trib Rapture were our warning years. Noah got 7 days notice. Maybe we actually have had 7 years.

Did we have a sign in 1997? or in the Jewish Year 5757 (our 1996/1997)? Yes. On Sept. 26, 1996 (Tishri 13, 5757), just two days before the Feast of Tabernacles, there was an astonishingly red lunar eclipse. That was the reddest Blood Moon I could imagine. After seeing the photo, it is not easily forgotten. Surely, that was a sign. It was followed by a solar eclipse 14 days later too. Below is the real Blood Moon.

How about the comet Hale-Bopp? It was probably the largest comet ever discovered, 25 to 100-mile diameter. Its closest approach to Earth was Mar. 23, 1997, the Feast of Purim (Esther's Feast). Also, a 90% lunar eclipse was seen over Jerusalem on Mar. 22, 1997. It reminds us of the comet that Josephus said hung over Jerusalem like a sword. Halley's comet was seen on March 20/21, 66 A.D.

Below is Comet Hale-Bopp. Found in Sagittarius, it will pass through the constellations of Perseus, Taurus, and Orion. A comet passing through Orion was thought by the Rabbis to be an ominous sign for Israel. The paths of comets Hyakutake (in 1996) and Hale Bopp (in 1997) cross one year apart to the day in the decapitated head of Rosh Satan held in the outstretched hand of Perseus (i.e., Christ).

At discovery, the comet Hale-Bopp was in the drawn bow of Sagittaurus, which represents Christ as a two-natured being going forth to conquer Satan (Scorpio). One foot of Sagittaurus has obviously been injured. He is holding it up. Gen. 3:15 says to Satan, "it (the seed of the woman, Jesus) shall bruise thy head (as in Perseus), and thou shalt bruise his heel." Jesus' heel was bruised at the Crucifixion.

Hale-Bopp's former visit to Earth was in the days of Noah. Since the Rapture is as the days of Noah (Mt. 24:37), this comet seems to have signaled that the Rapture is nigh.

I now think the last Rapture will take place on Sept. 9, 2010 (Tishri 1, 5771), just before the wrath of God hits Earth at noon (Zeph. 2:2-5) on the Feast of Trumpets. That last year would be a Jewish Leap Year, for there are 7 months between the Wrath of God on Tishri 1 and the Second Advent on the following Nisan 1 (Eze. 39:12,13). The Leap Years run 5768 (2007/2008), 5771 (2010/2011) and 5774 (2013/2014).

Subtracting the 2300 days of Dan. 8:13,14 from Sept. 9, 2010 (Tishri 1, 5771) is Dec. 17, 2004 (Friday, Teveth 5, 5765). I hope Dec. 17, 2004 will be the day of the Pre-Trib Rapture. Saturn will be a morning star in Gemini. Saturn is not a morning star now.

Esther 2:16 says, "Esther was taken unto king Ahasuerus into his house royal in the tenth month, which is the month Tebeth" (or Teveth).
The Sign of the Antichrist's Coming:
2 Comets, Satan's Star, Passover'98
May 1997. By: David Fry, Jr...

The following excerpt was sent in response to our last Newsletter "Was Comet Hale-Bopp an Omen" (author unknown).

Comet Hale-Bopp update
Apparently Bob Wadsworth, who has done intensive work plotting, and studying comets Hale-Bopp and Hyakutake discovered something interesting. A coincidence! While plotting the paths of Hyakutake during the month of April 96, against the projected path of comet Hale-Bopp during the month of April 97 an almost perfect [cross] is formed where they intersect at almost an 90 degree angle. Furthermore, both comets crossed this point on the EXACT same day of the year (April 11th). In other words, on April 11th 1996, comet Hyakutake occupied the same spot in the sky that comet Hale-Bopp did on April 11th 1997.

Now, where is this point in the sky? This point is in the constellation of Perseus, who holds the severed head of the Gorgon, Medusa. This intersection point just happens to be the middle of the head of Medusa at the eye. This eye is the star ALGOL. Therefore, in Greek mythology these two comets intersect on the same day, in different years, forming an almost perfect cross in the eye of Medusa!

Traditionally, according to the Starlore Handbook, ALGOL is the MOST MALEVOLENT star of the heavens. More interesting is what the Hebrews called this star. In Hebrew it is known as the HEAD OF SATAN!... But one more coincidence appears to be in store. Again April 11 is involved. No, not April 11 of 1996, or of 1997; it occurs in 1998. Yes, next year the Passover occurs on April 11.
Biblical Astronomy, May 1997
Editor - Robert Scott Wadsworth

The comet Hale-Bopp is still a naked eye object at this writing and will most likely be so through the month of May. Chart 34 shows the path of Comet Hale-Bopp from May 1, 1997, to June 1, 1997. The comet will pass through the horns of Taurus (Messiah, the coming Judge of all the earth), and enter into the constellation Orion (The Coming Prince) on May 19. Hale-Bopp will be in conjunction with the star Betelgeuse (the coming of the branch) on June 1. Betelgeuse is the brightest star in Orion.

There is another interesting celestial event occurring on June 1, which will be seen from Israel. It is a grazing occultation of Saturn by a crescent moon. The moon will pass in front of Saturn, and cover it briefly as seen from Israel. Chart 35 shows the occultation at 3:50 a.m., Jerusalem Standard Time. The little bump on top of the moon is Saturn. From higher latitudes on the earth, Saturn will be seen completely covered by the moon. About an hour after the occultation, Saturn will be seen above center of the crescent moon as seen from the earth in the Mid-East. The occultation will occur in the constellation Pisces (the blessings of the redeemed in abeyance or Israel)....

So, when Hale-Bopp passes through Orion, the Talmudic sages see this as indicating the destruction of the Earth."

Keep in mind that the above is "tradition". I found the above of interest to share, and I thank Dr. Zambrano for sharing it with me. Hale Bopp will enter the constellation Orion on May 19, 1997, and exits Orion on June 17, 1997.
Biblical Astronomy, July 1997
Editor - Robert Scott Wadsworth


The Comet Hale-Bopp will again be visible in the northern hemisphere from late August through late October in the early morning hours before sunrise....Hale-Bopp will be in the constellation Argo (Noah's Ark) from mid August to late December. Argo represents a place of refuge for God's people in a time of great trouble on Earth. Such was the case during the Great Flood (see the article "The Great Flood" in the August, 1996 issue of Biblical Astronomy). This is particularly interesting since Hale-Bopp, as seen from Earth, comes from the constellation Pavo which represents Argos (Noah) the shipbuilder of Argo (see "A Voice Crying in the Heavens", page 61), and was last seen in this part of the solar system "in the days of Noah"!

Another interesting tidbit (this will cost you nothing extra) came to me via e-mail from Bob Schlenker, Christian Research Ministries, from an e-mail sent to him by Bill Cloud, Voice of Evangelism Ministries. The following is a quote from this message: "This upcoming Jewish year 5758 is spelled tav, shin, nun, chet. Nun, chet spells the name "noah". The year forms an acrostic for the "season of Noah."...Hale-Bopp will be in Noah's Ark at this time....

Chart 39 shows the path of Hale-Bopp from September 4, 1997, to December 1, 1997. The three constellations Puppis, Vela, and Carina are the modern names of the constellations which, as a whole, make up the ancient constellation Argo. Carina is the keel of the ship, Puppis the stern, and Vela the sail. I do not believe that Noah's Ark had a sail (it was more like a floating barge), but in its more ancient form, the picture of the constellation Argo may have appeared different....
> > Dec. does not fit the scriptures you have used to look to the rapture, ie. Song of Soloman.

That's true. Because of Song of Solomon 2:10-14, I thought Pentecost, in the spring, would be the time of the Rapture. However, Saturn is not a morning star then.

> > Is Saturn a morning star on June 10, 2005?


> > How does Dec. fit with days of noe?.

Noah went in the Ark with his family on Cheshvan 17 and exited a year later on Cheshvan 27 (Gen. 7:11; 8:14). These dates fall on Nov. 1 and 11 in 2004.

When Noah entered the Ark, Saturn was in Gemini, Jupiter in Leo. When he exited the Ark, Saturn was in Cancer, Jupiter in Virgo. Saturn was a morning star both times.

On Dec. 17, 2004, Saturn will be at the border of Gemini and Cancer. Jupiter will be in Virgo. Saturn will be a morning star. These fit the Rapture.

> > 10 years between raptures..2015-10=2005.

Since it thunders on the first day of the Tribulation (Rev. 6:1) and on the day of the first Rapture (Rev. 4:5), I now think that the first trump of God, the Pre-Trib Rapture, is on the first day of the Tribulation. Thus, there would not be 10 years between the two Raptures. Agape

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