Pro and Con 1140

Posted 8-8-04

Queen's Chamber niche in the Great Pyramid, representing the 5 naked-eye planets, Mercury, Venus, Mars, Jupiter and Saturn

It looks like red stone represents Heaven, Saturn, here as the Red Granite does in the King's Chamber.

Herodotus on Khufu

http://nefertiti.iwebland.com/herodotus/kheops.htm

This pyramid was made after the manner of steps which some called "rows" and others "bases": and when they had first made it thus, they raised the remaining stones with MACHINES MADE OF SHORT PIECES OF TIMBER, raising them first from the ground to the first stage of the steps, and when the stone got up to this it was placed upon another machine standing on the first stage, and so from this it was drawn to the second upon another machine; for as many as were the courses of the steps...

HOW WERE THE PYRAMIDS BUILT ?

By V. Ryan
http://www.technologystudent.com/culture1/egypt2.htm

(The Pyramid of) "Giza, the Adoption Theory"

By Alan F. Alford
http://www.eridu.co.uk/Author/egypt/giza.html

In my book ‘The Phoenix Solution’ (1998), I noted that virtually all of the supposed evidence for 4th dynasty construction of the Giza Pyramids and Sphinx was, in fact, consistent with an adoption scenario. In other words, it seemed entirely plausible that the Egyptian kings KHUFU AND KHAFRE HAD ADOPTED PRE-EXISTING STRUCTURES IN THE FORM OF THE GREAT PYRAMID, THE SECOND PYRAMID AND THE SPHINX, and merely added the causeways which ran between the mortuary and valley temples.

...In chapter two of ‘The Phoenix Solution’, I pointed out a relationship between the Giza and Dahshur pyramids that no-one had ever noticed before. In a nutshell, it involves an alignment between the TWIN PYRAMIDS BUILT BY SNEFERU AT DAHSHUR and the two giant pyramids at Giza. Amazingly, the alignment is such that Sneferu’s pyramids must have been oriented towards two PRE-EXISTING PYRAMIDS AT GIZA (this fact is apparent to any intelligent person who knows the topographical constraints of the Giza and Dahshur sites and who is able to study the alignment free from bias and preconceptions...SINCE SNEFERU WAS THE FATHER OF KHUFU, THIS FACT ALONE PRECLUDES ANY POSSIBILITY THAT KHUFU BUILT THE GREAT PYRAMID AT GIZA....

Building the Great Pyramid

by Kevin Jackson, Jonathan Stamp
http://print.google.com/print/doc?isbn=1552977196

In the course of his reign (2575-2551 BC), Khufu's father Sneferu -- the first king of the IVth Dynasty -- constructed four of the greatest buildings Egypt had ever seen. Most famously, he built the two colossal tombs at Dahshur, known respectively as the BENT PYRAMID and the North Pyramid, as well as the smaller one at Seila....

SNEFERU AND THE BIRTH OF THE TRUE PYRAMID
When Sneferu inherited the throne of Egypt, Djoser's tomb (a step pyramid of 'the IIIrd Dynasty Pharaoh Djoser, from 2630 to 2611 BC') was the only complete, large-scale pyramid in the land. He decided to follow Djoser's example, and ultimately followed it four times over: in terms of sheer scale, at least, he deserves to be known as the greatest of all the Egyptian pyramid builders. In the light of recent research, it appears that he began at Meidum by staying fairly close to Imhotep's basic design and constructing another step pyramid -- the centerpiece, again, of a major necropolis. Later, though, he appears to have changed his mind and sent workers back to Meidum to fill in the original steps and remold his monument into a true pyramid, of the smooth-surfaced kind we recognize today, with an exterior slope of 51 degrees 50 minutes 35 seconds: in other words, very nearly the same as Khufu's Pyramid. When completed, this structure was 302 feet (92 meters) high and had a base length of about 473 feet (144 meters). The Egyptians came to call it "Sneferu Endures."...

Sneferu's other main innovation was in the pyramid's internal structure. Workers built a long descending passage (very much like that in the Great Pyramid), with an entrance at about 54 feet (16.5 meters) above the base and running down, by way of a short horizontal passage and a vertical shaft, to a central CORBELED burial chamber...

Round about the fifteenth year of his reign, he shifted operations some 25 miles (40 km) north of Meidum to Dahshur, where he set about building another necropolis. The twin crowns of this project were two great pyramids. One of them, known to the Egyptians as the Southern Shining Pyramid, is referred to today by a more straightforwardly descriptive title: the BENT PYRAMID....

Sneferu's other full-scale pyramid at Dahshur was the North or Red Pyramid, known to the Egyptians as the Shining Pyramid....

Again, workers made a long descending passage, running from an entrance high up on the north side down to ground level, where it joins two almost identical antechambers, both CORBELED and with high roofs. A short horizontal passage leads from the second of these to the main burial chamber, 50 feet (15 meters) high and also designed with a CORBELED ROOF....

Bent Pyramid

http://www.crystalinks.com/bentpyr.html

...For his second great project, Snefru chose the previously unused plateau at Dahshur further to the north. He selected the site for his pyramid, now known as the 'Bent Pyramid', for obvious reasons. Here was a large flat area with good-quality stone near by and a gorge that could serve as a natural transport ramp from the Nile. It appeared to be very suitable place to build a new eternal abode of a great ruler. This turned out, however, to be a crucial mistake.

The underlying sands and shales eventually proved unable to support the weight of the pyramid, the first to be designed as a true geometric pyramid and one that would have surpassed the height of the Great Pyramid had it been completed as planned. Although various theories have been proposed to explain the curious change in angle which gives the Bent Pyramid its name, the most convincing reason for its shape was the necessity to remedy the cracks and fissures caused by subsidence which began to appear even while this pyramid was being built.

The original plan was to build a true pyramid with a rather steep slope of about 60 degrees, but about half-way through construction the outer casing began to crack. To prevent further subsidence, additional masonry was added to all four sides, reducing the angle of inclination to 54 degrees. Yet it was too late. Fissures in the blocks of the completed internal chambers appeared.

They tried everything: plaster patches, a new lining of masonry, and even imported cedar logs to shore up the walls. It was clear that drastic measures were necessary to save the pyramid, the largest monumental building attempted since the beginning of the Egyptian state, but what more could they do? Ultimately, the architects decided that a radical reduction of the angle and a change in the method of laying the masonry were required. The upper half of the pyramid was completed at an angle of 43 degrees to a height of 105 m (344 ft) with smaller stones laid in horizontal rather than inwardly sloping courses to diminish the weight of the mass....

My comments

The Step Pyramid at Saqqara, built by Djoser, 3rd Dynasty, is considered the first pyramid. The stones were laid in courses and inclined towards the center. The Lost Pyramid at Saqqara, built by Sekhemkhet, 3rd Dynasty, is the second. It only has a few layers and wasn't finished.

The Pyramid of Meidum was either built by Huni, last king of the 3rd Dynasty, or his son-in-law Sneferu, first of the 4th Dynasty. Its stepped core was revealed when the casing stones collapsed.

The Bent Pyramid of Dahshur was built by Sneferu (2680-2565 BC), father of Khufu. In danger of collapsing, the angle of ascent was changed. After that, Sneferu built the Red or Northern Pyramid with the angle matching the top of the Bent Pyramid.

Sneferu's ideas for descending passages and corbel roofs probably came from the Great Pyramid's Grand Gallery.

The early pyramids demonstrated that without God's directions, the Egyptians of that day did a lousy job of building a pyramid. Could Khufu, son of Sneferu, have actually built the nearly perfect Great Pyramid? I don't think so. I think it was already there before Djoser (2668-2649 BC) built the Step Pyramid. I consider the Great Pyramid the prime reason pyramid building was attempted later. It set the standard, but without God's instructions, the Egyptians could not even come close to duplicating it.

Star Shafts in the Great Pyramid

by Keith P. Johnson
http://home.globalcrossing.net/~kjohnson/ssingp.htm

...Experience has shown that one of the most difficult tasks in building a large pyramid is to precisely align the levels of masonry. The effect of small alignment errors at the lower levels becomes built into higher levels, and small errors have a way of accumulating with each new level, sometimes with disastrous results, such as the apparent collapse of the pyramid at Meidum.

In this respect, the Great Pyramid of Giza is a miracle of construction. The Great Pyramid contains more than 200 levels of limestone blocks. The pyramid's almost perfectly square base measures 756 feet on a side, and its four triangular sides rise flawlessly to an apex of 481 feet. Within this massive structure, the levels of stone are almost perfectly aligned all the way to the top....

How was the Great Pyramid built with a precision that other pyramids were never able to match?...

Each chamber has a pair of shafts. One shaft is directed precisely north and the other shaft precisely south. Each shaft enters the north or south wall, extends horizontally for a few feet, and then angles upward. Thus, each of the four shafts is directed at a precise elevation on the local meridian....

...The extraordinary precision of the Great Pyramid was made possible by using the Star Shafts as built-in transit instruments during construction.....

Star Shaft Construction Technique... 1. Select a star as a Target Star. The Target Star must be visible to the naked eye (brighter than magnitude 6.0), and it must culminate high enough not to be disturbed by the earth's atmosphere, say at least 20 degrees.

2. Establish a permanent observation point at the current level, such as the Queen's Chamber or King's Chamber, from which to view the Target Star through the Star Shaft during the next phase of construction.

3. Incorporate a Shaft Stone in each succeeding level of stones. Each new Shaft Stone contains an 20 x 20-cm channel that extends the shaft by some three feet to the next level at the precise elevation of the Target Star's point of culmination.

4. At each new level, observe the nightly transit of the Target Star from the lower end of the shaft, for example from the Queen's Chamber or King's Chamber. Perform nightly adjustments of the Shaft Stone's elevation and azimuth until the stone is perfectly aligned and then secure the Shaft Stone in that position....

Just as the three Belt Stars (in Orion) followed one another across the field of view of the King's Chamber Star Shaft, Lesath and Shaula (in Scorpio) would have crossed the Queen's Chamber Star Shaft field of view, with westernmost Lesath crossing first, followed by Shaula 2 minutes and 33 seconds later. Due to these two stars' nearly identical declinations, both stars would have crossed the Star Shaft field of view, as just described, throughout the shaft's entire construction....

The Great Pyramid

http://www.world-mysteries.com/mpl_2.htm

The northern shaft (in King's Chamber) is rectangular, about 7 inches wide by 5 inches high, a shape it maintains throughout its length. The shaft begins on the horizontal for about 6 feet then takes a series of FOUR BENDS. While maintaining its general upward angle, IT SHIFTS FIRST TO THE NORTH-NORTHWEST THEN BACK TO NORTH, THEN TO NORTH-NORTHEAST, AND FINALLY BACK TO TRUE NORTH....

When Sandys described the Great Pyramid in 1610, he wrote of the shafts: In the walls, on each side of the upper room, there are two holes, one opposite to another, their ends not discernable, nor big enough to be crept into -- SOOTY WITHIN, and made, as they say, by a flame of fire which darted through it....

Pyramid History Part 2

http://www.gizapyramid.com/history2.htm

...One of Colonel Vyse's assistants, Mr. Hill, climbed up on the outer surface of the pyramid and found similar openings where the airshafts exited to the outside. A man named, Perring, one of Colonel Vyse's engineers was in the King's Chamber at the time. Hill, at the outside of the airshaft, by accident dislodged a stone which came down the 200 feet long airshaft at high speed and came crashing through, almost decapitating Perring....

SYMBOLISM AND COINCIDENCES OF THE GREAT PYRAMID

by Tim G. Hunkler, 7-Jul-2004
http://www.hunkler.com/pyramids/pyramid_symbolism.html#prophe

...On May 26th, 1837, J. R. Hill, working for Howard Vyse, was clearing the exit point for the southern airshaft of the King's Chamber where it exited at the 102nd course. After removing two outer tiers of stone, an "Iron Plate" was found wedged between some inter stone joints. The plate was roughly 12" x 4" and 1/8" thick....

Optical and chemical tests were finally performed some 108 years later in 1989 on the iron plate. The results reported by the metallurgical experts were that the metal was iron, not of meteoric orgin, that was formed by smelting at between 1000 and 1100 degrees Centrigrade.....

Those Mysterious Air Shafts

http://home.globalcrossing.net/~kjohnson/shafts.htm

...The shafts are angled through the masonry with great effort. EACH SHAFT STONE IS ACTUALLY SEVERAL DISPARATE PIECES OF MASONRY, which must be assembled in order to integrate the angled shaft into the pyramid's horizontal masonry courses....

CARBON-14 DATING THE GIZA PYRAMIDS?

The Small Relics Found Inside The Pyramids
By Robert G. Bauval (in collaboration with Javier Sierra)
http://www.robertbauval.com/articles/DE49.html

In 1989...two metallurgists, Dr. El Gayar of the faculty of Petroleum and Mineral in Suez, Egypt, and Dr. M.P. Jones of Imperial College London, asked the British Museum for a small sample of the iron plate so that they could conduct a full scientific examination....it was contemporaneous with the pyramid [6]. The chemical and microscopic analyses of the iron plate also revealed very small traces of gold, suggesting that the plate had perhaps been originally gilded. The actual size of the plate was estimated to have been 26 x 26 cm., which is roughly the same size of the shaft's mouth, which in turn suggests that the iron plate possibly had served as some sort of cover or gate to the shaft's mouth. El Gayar and Jones also pointed out that the plate's dimension of 26 x 26 cm. implied it was sized in royal cubit, the measure used by the pyramid builders (half a royal cubit of 52.37 cm. gives 26.18 cm.).

My comments

When looking at some charts, it does seem like the straight as a ruler pyramid shafts were used like surveying instruments to keep the pyramid shaped perfectly. Each layer would have its shaft stone set correctly first to keep the rest of the layer within its set bounds. The pyramid must not twist or bulge. The shaft stone would set the alignment for each layer like the first floor tile secured in place sets the alignment for the whole floor.

By night, the stars could be sighted to align the next layer's shaft stone. By night or day, a lamp set in the bottom of the shaft could be seen correctly from above when the next layer's shaft stone was in the correct position.

Yet, some charts show each shaft starting out with a level area (some as long as 8 feet) before going upward at the correct angle. One, the northern King's-Chamber shaft, "SHIFTS FIRST TO THE NORTH-NORTHWEST THEN BACK TO NORTH, THEN TO NORTH-NORTHEAST, AND FINALLY BACK TO TRUE NORTH." This would make sighting through this shaft difficult without mirrors.

The level part of a shaft is no problem. Similar to some telescopes, a burnished metal mirror set at an angle could reflect the transit of a star to a astronomer without him having to be in an uncomfortable position to look up the shaft. The angled mirror could have also reflected lamplight up the shaft when a lamp was set in the level part of the shaft, and soot was found in the level sections. But what about the northern shaft in the King's Chamber?

A clue was found in the Queen's Chamber. Maybe sighting the stars was not the only way a shaft was used. A BASEBALL SIZED GRANITE BALL WAS FOUND IN THE QUEEN-CHAMBER'S SHAFT. If this ball was dropped into the new shaft stone's opening, It would drop down into the shaft below when the opening in the new shaft-stone lined up with the one below. The crooked northern King's-Chamber shaft could have been used with a granite ball. It could take the turns.

At first, the Descending Passage could have been used to orient the lower layers north to south. Next, the Ascending Passage could have been utilized for the same thing. After that, the shafts from the Queen's Chamber could have been used for sighting the transit of the stars. The reason the Queen shafts do not pierce the outside is because by then the King shafts were ready to be used.

The shafts are not all oriented the same. Over the 20 years it took to build the pyramid, the stars used for orientation would have moved somewhat. Different stars could have been picked at different times. The lower part of the northern King's Chamber shaft could have been used to sight on a different star at first too. Both of the King's Chamber shafts extend through the edge of the pyramid for air, both for the workers and for drying out the interior after Noah's Flood. The gilded iron plate might have been used as a mirror to place in the turn of the shaft to reflect star light to the astronomer in the King's Chamber. As the last shaft opening was bypassed, the no-longer-needed plate was left in the shaft.

The builders of the Great Pyramid did a much better job orienting the structure on the north-south axis than have the builders of any other large construction on Earth.

Below are some interesting things I found on other sites. References to Thuban and the North Star shining down a shaft do not always refer to the same shaft.
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http://www.ianlawton.com/oc10.htm

...in my view, the shafts remain one of the few serious enigmas left to be properly explained about the Great Pyramid....

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What Lies at the End of the Queen's Chamber Shafts?
http://www.catchpenny.org/shaftend.html

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The Great Pyramid

By Larry Pahl
http://www.ecclesia.org/truth/pyramid.html

...Each year the Pole Star shines further down the Descending Passage. The North Star illuminated the entrance to the Well Shaft (sometimes called the point of last escape) in 1997. The North Star will shine on the floor of the Subterranean Passage in 2004.

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The Giza Oracle
http://www.bibleufo.com/location.htm

...The north shaft of the Kings Chamber is aligned with Alpha Draconis formerly Earth's Pole star
The south shaft of the Kings Chamber is aligned with Zeta Orionis
The north shaft of the Queens Chamber is aligned with Orion
The south shaft of the Queens Chamber is aligned with Sirius

The air shafts aren't the only star pointers in the Great Pyramid. The Descending Passage seems star bound! Between 2170 and 2144 it was aligned with Alpha Draconis then the Pole star. For 4141 years it languished in relative stellar insignificance until 1997 when Polaris the current Pole star began to cast its light down its 344 ft. almost perfectly straight shaft. It will illuminate the bottom of that shaft in 2004....
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Solutions to the Great Pyramid's Mysteries
http://home.globalcrossing.net/~kjohnson/solution.htm

The Great Pyramid... It was a museum of the builders' knowledge--a "time capsule" intended for later civilizations. The Great Pyramid was the builders' method of saying, "We were here, and this is what we knew."
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Draco Constellation
http://www.crystalinks.com/draco.html

...The great Egyptian pyramids of Khufu, located at Giza, seem to have been planned and built with Thuban as a guide when Thuban was the Pole Star around 3000 B.C.

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The Concave Faces of the Great Pyramid
http://www.catchpenny.org/concave.html

In his book The Egyptian Pyramids: A Comprehensive, Illustrated Reference, J.P. Lepre wrote:
One very unusual feature of the Great Pyramid is a concavity of the core that makes the monument an eight-sided figure, rather than four-sided like every other Egyptian pyramid. That is to say, that its four sides are hollowed in or indented along their central lines, from base to peak. This concavity divides each of the apparent four sides in half, creating a very special and unusual eight-sided pyramid; and IT IS EXECUTED TO SUCH AN EXTRAORDINARY DEGREE OF PRECISION AS TO ENTER THE REALM OF THE UNCANNY. For, viewed from any ground position or distance, this concavity is quite invisible to the naked eye. The hollowing-in can be noticed only from the air, and only at certain times of the day....

The purpose for the concavity of the Great Pyramids remains a mystery and no satisfactory explanation for this feature has been offered. The indentation is so slight that any practical function is difficult to imagine.

My comment

The concave sides would have strengthened the Great Pyramid against the force of the Great-Flood waters within until they could drain away. The air shafts were necessary to dry the interior.

Incoming email, Re: From Col.Jim Bramlett Please read

Re: the July 2 5D post by Keith Crawford, who said:
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I believe that there is sufficient evidence to support that Jesus was crucified on Friday April 3, 33 A.D. (Only Jesus knows for sure.) The next day, Saturday April 4, 33 A.D. would have been Passover. 50 days later, Sunday May 24th, 33 A.D. would have been Pentecost.

Prophecy always uses 360 day years.
2000 years (360 days each) = 720,000 days.

Friday April 3rd 33 A.D. plus 720,000 days = Saturday July 17th, 2004.
Sunday May 24th 33 A.D. plus 720,000 days = Monday September 6th 2004
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If the above is true, it is possible that David Gant's dramatic 1992 underwater cave experience is still valid. That is when he was lost for hours, finally gave up and decided he was going to die, suddenly felt God's peace and presence, was gloriously saved, then heard God's voice say, "I am coming for my children before the year 2000."

We all thought it would be before Gregorian year 2000, but maybe not. Maybe it meant "before 2,000 years" after the crucifixion or resurrection.

Let us hope.

Also he wrote on Jan 6th 2004 the following:
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From: Jim Bramlett
Great Pyramid points to 2004?

Do the supernatural dimensions of the Great Pyramid of Egypt point to the year 2004?

Late last night, I remembered a book I purchased in about 1995. It was titled “Delicate Balance,” written in 1989 by scientist John Zajac. Somehow, I got an autographed copy. I may have spoken with him.

I purposed to find the book upon arising this morning, but was concerned that I had moved to another state since seeing it last and might have great difficulty locating it. But amazingly, I located it within seconds! It was as though I was directed right to it.

It is a scientific book, not a Christian book, and I do not even know whether or not the author is a Christian. But there are some fascinating references to Bible facts in it, and an intriguing reference to the year 2004.

He devotes almost a chapter to the Great Pyramid of Egypt, pointing out aspects of the Pyramid’s design that had to have been of supernatural origin. Examples are below, but first a comment about the Pyramid’s Descending Passage and the year 2004. The Descending Passage leads eventually to a pit believed to be symbolic of hell:

(Written in 1989.) The Descending Passage lines up with the Pole Star. With the door opening so small and the length of the passage 334 feet long, the angle of view is only + or - 1/3 of a degree. Because of the slow motion of the stars, the passage lines up precisely to a Pole Star only once every several thousand years. Stars move, and the Pole Star, Alpha Draconis (Dragon Star) has not been in direct alignment with the Descending Passage for thousands of years. However, a new Pole Star will finally become aligned within the next few years; this heavenly body is known as the North Star, or "Polaris" (which Zajac says in Greek means “Satan”). Each year the North Star shines further down the Descending Passage. It will illuminate the entrance to the Well Shaft (sometimes called the Point of Last Escape) in 1997. The North Star will shine on the floor of the Subterranean Passage seven years later in 2004. What is the significance of these events? (Some people speculate they may be related to "the signs in the stars" that the Bible mentions with regard to the Second Coming of Christ).

Here are some more Pyramid fact, excerpted:
1. The average height of land over sea level in the world is 5,449 inches, which is the exact height of the Pyramid.

2. All four sides of the Pyramid are slightly bowed inward, or concave, exactly duplicating the curvature of the earth; the radius equals the radius of the earth.

3. The circumference of the Pyramid divided by twice its height (or radius) results in Pi, 3.14159, accurate to six digits.

4. Amazing results appear if Pyramid inches are converted to days or years. For example, each of the Pyramid's four walls measure 9,131 inches, for a total of 36,524 inches. Move the decimal point over three places and you get the exact number of days in a solar year, 365.24.

5. The Pyramid faces true north; it is located at the exact center of the earth's land mass.

6. Converting the measurements of the Ascending Passage from inches to years reveals the exact future dates of the exodus of the Jews and the birth, baptism and crucifixion of Christ.

7. The Decending Passageway is believed to symbolically lead to hell (a pit beneath the Pyramid); but is intersected by the Ascending Passage from which the life of Christ is calculated and which leads upward to the Kings Chamber -- symbolically heaven -- with the total number of inches representing human history from beginning to end (ending somewhere around the beginning of the third millennium – where we are right now).

Early 20th century Christian writer Clarence Larkin believed that Job supervised the construction of the Pyramid.

There is evidence that Isaiah spoke of the Pyramid: "In that day there shall be an altar to the Lord in the midst of the Land of Egypt, and a monument at the border thereof to the Lord, and it shall be for a sign, and for a witness unto the Lord of Hosts in the Land of Egypt" (Isaiah 19:19-20). In the Hebrew language, each of the original 30 words of that passage has a numerical value because each Hebrew letter is also a number. When the 30 words are added up, the total is 5,449, which is one of the most significant and dominant numbers of the Pyramid. It is the exact height of the Pyramid in sacred Jewish inches!

My reply

> > Re: the July 2 5D post by Keith Crawford, who said:
I believe that there is sufficient evidence to support that Jesus was crucified on Friday April 3, 33 A.D.

Herod captured Jerusalem in BC 37. He started to rebuild the temple in the 18th year of his reign, BC 20/19 (Jewish 3742). It had been under construction 46 years at the first Passover of Jesus' ministry in 27 AD (3787) (John 2:20). To me, this eliminates 33 AD as a possible date for the Crucifixion. I think it was Thursday, the preparation of the Passover (John 19:14, 42), April 6, 30 AD (3790).

> > Do the supernatural dimensions of the Great Pyramid of Egypt point to the year 2004?

They may not, but a lot of people think so. Anyway, we have other signs.

The unmistakable one was when the String of Pearls hit Jupiter. The 21 pieces of the comet Shoemaker-Levy 9 began to strike Jupiter 5 hours into the Jewish Av 9 (July 16,17, 1994). Both temples were destroyed on Av 9 and 10. July 16 was also the anniversary of the first atomic explosion--at Alamagordo, NM.

Luke 21:25 says, "And there shall be signs in the sun, and in the moon, and in the stars (lit., constellations); and upon the earth distress of nations, with perplexity; the sea and the waves roaring." Verse 28 says, "And when these things begin to come to pass, then look up, and lift up your heads; for your redemption draweth nigh."

It's interesting that this sign was 10 years ago. Rev. 2:10 says, "Fear none of those things which thou shalt suffer: behold, the devil shall cast some of you into prison, that ye may be tried; and ye shall have tribulation TEN DAYS: be thou faithful unto death, and I will give thee a crown of life." The word translated days can mean a period of time to be determined from the context. Whatever period of time it means, I hope it will end in 2004.

> > The North Star will shine on the floor of the Subterranean Passage seven years later in 2004.

Whether it does or not, 2004 may be the Rapture year. I'm hoping for Dec. 17, 2004 (Teveth 5, 5765). Esther was taken into the king's house royal in the month of Tebeth/Teveth (Esther 2:16). Dec. 17, 2004 is 2300 days (Dan. 8:13,14) before April 5, 2011 (Nisan 1, 5771), when I think the Second Advent will take place. The sanctuary will be cleansed on Nisan 1 (Eze. 45:18,25).

Dec. 17 was the beginning of the Saturnalia in pagan Rome. Here are excerpts from several articles on the Saturnalia. It would be very like Satan to try to obscure the date of the Rapture like this. Christians would naturally steer away from anything associated with pagan religions.
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Christmas and the Birth of Christ, by William Houston IV
http://www.houseofgod.org/articles/religious/christmas.htm#On%20what%20date%20was%20Jesus%20born?

Chronos, or Saturn, was a god in Roman mythology, that fled to what is now Italy and ushered in a kind of golden age. A week-long festival called Saturnalia, was held in his honor. This event was a time of revelry, feasting, and gift giving. A religious and secular event, the religious aspects of the feast were observed on the first day of the festival, December 17. Festive customs continued through the last day December 23, in which during this time business was forbidden, and all men, free or slaves, were equal.

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