No, and I haven't noticed till now the connection between Strong's 423, alah, curse, and 427, allah, an oak tree. It could be a play on words since the Muslims call their god Allah.
However, I believe that "the curse that goeth forth (i.e., orbits) over the face of the whole earth" in Zech. 5:2,3 is the binary asteroid, the flying rolling thing that is twice as long as it is wide. It will break into two main pieces (Rev. 8:8,10), probably at the Roche Limit.
I think these two pieces were represented by the two stone tablets with commandments written on them that Moses dashed to pieces on the ground when Israel worshiped the golden calf.
Ex. 32:19 says, "as soon as he came nigh unto the camp, that he saw the calf, and the dancing: and Moses' anger waxed hot, and he cast the tables out of his hands, and BRAKE THEM".
Zech. 5:3 says, "Then said he unto me, This is THE CURSE THAT GOETH FORTH (orbits) OVER THE FACE OF THE WHOLE EARTH: for every one that STEALETH (disobeying a commandment) shall be cut off as (symbolic language) on this side according to it (one stone tablet); and every one that SWEARETH (disobeying a commandment) shall be cut off as (symbolic language) on that side according to it (the other stone tablet)."
Isa. 22:16-18 says that the Lord "will surely violently turn and TOSS THEE LIKE A BALL into a large country: there shalt thou die, and there the chariots of thy glory shall be the shame of thy lord's house."
Zech. 5:4 says, "I will bring it (THE CURSE, i.e., the asteroid) forth, saith the LORD of hosts, and it shall enter into the house of the thief (the second 'son of perdition,' the False Prophet of Rev. 13:11-18), and into the house of him that sweareth falsely by my name (the Tribulation Pope that claims infallibility, the Beast of Rev. 13:4-10): and it (the asteroid) shall remain in the midst of his house, and shall consume it with the timber thereof and the stones thereof."
This "stone like a great millstone" (Rev. 18:21) is the one that destroys Babylon.
The two stone tablets were stored in the Ark in the Holy of Holies, which represented Heaven. Rev. 11:19 says, "the temple of God was opened in heaven, and there was seen in his temple the ARK OF HIS TESTAMENT: and there were lightnings, and voices, and thunderings, and an EARTHQUAKE, and great hail." When the stones are dumped out, the scene suddenly changes from Heaven to Earth. This earthquake will by world-wide.
Rev. 16:18-21 says, "And there were voices, and thunders, and lightnings; and there was a great EARTHQUAKE, SUCH AS WAS NOT SINCE MEN WERE UPON THE EARTH, so mighty an earthquake, and so great. And the great city (Jerusalem) was divided into three parts, and the cities of the nations fell: and great Babylon came in remembrance before God, to give unto her the cup of the wine of the fierceness of his wrath. And every island fled away, and the mountains were not found. And there fell upon men a great hail out of heaven, every stone about the weight of a talent (100 lbs.): and men blasphemed God because of the plague of the hail; for the plague thereof was exceeding great."
The "great mountain burning with fire was cast into the sea" (Rev. 8:8), the Mediterranean. It will hit Earth at noon.
Zeph. 2:1-5 says, "Gather yourselves together, yea, gather together, O nation not desired (Israel); Before the decree bring forth, before the day pass as the chaff, before the fierce anger of the LORD come upon you, before the day of the LORD's anger come upon you. Seek ye the LORD, all ye meek of the earth, which have wrought his judgment; seek righteousness, seek meekness: it may be ye shall be HID (or raptured) in the day of the LORD's anger. For Gaza shall be forsaken, and Ashkelon a desolation: they shall drive out Ashdod at the NOON day, and Ekron shall be rooted up. Woe unto the inhabitants of the sea coast".
Eze. 38:20 says of this time, "the fishes of the sea, and the fowls of the heaven, and the beasts of the field, and all creeping things that creep upon the earth, and ALL THE MEN THAT ARE UPON THE FACE OF THE EARTH, SHALL SHAKE at my presence (paniym, face, i.e., the Sign of the Son of Man, Mt. 24:30; Rev. 6:14f), and the mountains (asteroids of Rev. 8:8 and 10) shall be thrown down, and the steep places shall fall, and every wall shall fall to the ground." Verse 23 says, "Thus will I magnify myself, and sanctify myself; and I will be known in the EYES of many nations, and they shall know that I am the LORD."
We are getting close to the end. Just look at the news I found this morning. Keep in mind that the handwriting on the wall said, "PERES; Thy kingdom is divided." Because of this, I have been watching Peres.
PM to offer PERES vast responsibilities
By Gil Hoffman, 12-2-04
Prime Minister Ariel Sharon intends to ask Labor chairman Shimon PERES to run the country together with him in a NEW "SUPER-DEPUTY PREMIERSHIP," that would grant PERES vast powers, beyond those enjoyed by any no. 2 to the prime minister before, sources close to Sharon told The Jerusalem Post on Thursday.
Sharon praised PERES in a meeting with newspaper editors in Tel Aviv, saying that he has known him for 51 years and extolling his contributions in every possible field from nearly every cabinet position, including prime minister (he has already been PM twice).
"Naturally, he can fill any position," Sharon said. "They are all available, except of course for Prime Minister."
Sharon, who is 76, hinted about a key role for the 81-year-old PERES when he said, "THE PEOPLE OF OUR GENERATION HAVE ON THEIR SHOULDERS THE RESPONSIBILITY TO RESOLVE THE [Israeli-Palestinian] CONFLICT."
Formal negotiations on a national-unity government will begin only after next Thursday's Likud central committee vote on widening the coalition. But meanwhile, Sharon and PEREZ hope to resolve remaining differences between Likud and Labor on economic issues in discrete meetings between Labor MK Haim Ramon and Sharon's attorney, Yoram Raved....
Joel 3:2 says, "I will also gather all nations, and will bring them down into the valley of Jehoshaphat, and will plead with them there for my people and for my heritage Israel, whom they have scattered among the nations, and PARTED MY LAND."
I believe the Pre-Trib Rapture will take place before, or as, the peace covenant is strengthened. Jesus showed us that the Rapture would be as the days of Noah (Mt. 24:37).
When the Flood began, Saturn (Heaven) was a morning star in Gemini (Heb., Thaumin, the united). It will be in Gemini from now until about July 1, 2005. I expect the Rapture to unite the Bride and Bridegroom in Heaven during this time slot. Eph. 2:6 says that He "hath RAISED US UP TOGETHER, and made us SIT TOGETHER IN HEAVENLY PLACES in Christ Jesus." I'm hoping for the Rapture the night of Dec. 16/17. Agape
Comet Wild 2 is more than just rubble.
NASA's Stardust spacecraft has surprised scientists with the most detailed picture of a comet yet....
All comets were once thought to be little more than lumps of loosely packed icy rubble. Stardust has revealed that WILD 2 BUCKS THE TREND WITH A RIGID CORE THAT IS ABLE TO SUPPORT NEAR-VERTICAL CLIFFS AND SPIRES OF ROCK.
"It's completely unexpected," says Donald Brownlee, Stardust's principal investigator and an astronomer at the University of Washington, Seattle...
Stardust is the first mission destined to bring samples of a comet's dust back to Earth. The probe is scheduled to deliver its precious payload on 15 January 2006, by parachuting a capsule into the Utah desert....
Astronomers think that Wild 2 spent billions of years in the Kuiper belt, the region just beyond Neptune's orbit that contains millions of aspiring comets. Some gravitational shuffling pushed it closer to the Sun, before a close encounter with Jupiter just 30 years ago set Wild 2 on its present course. In all that time it has only passed close to the Sun on five occasions, so its icy surface has suffered little melting and carries a much better preserved record of its impact history than more weathered bodies, such as Halley's comet.
These things were like a thunderbolt Anthony Tuzzolino, University of Chicago...
The five-kilometre-wide comet was first seen by Swiss astronomer Paul Wild in 1978, and it orbits the Sun once every six and a half years or so. Its elliptical path around the Sun keeps it swinging between the orbits of Mars and Jupiter....
Of course, you sent me off on a hunt for more facts about this comet. Here is just a bit of what I found.
To view the second picture below, use red/blue glasses. That it might be a piece of the planet Rahab looks entirely possible. Another picture farther down compares Wild 2 with Saturn's captured satellite Phoebe. My guess is that both came from the planet Rahab.
STARDUST REVEALS SURPRISING ANATOMY OF A COMET
On January 2, 2004, Stardust flew within 236 kilometers of Comet Wild 2 and captured thousands of particles in its aerogel collector for return on Earth in January 2006. Findings from a historic encounter between NASA's Stardust spacecraft and a comet have revealed a much stranger world than previously believed. The comet's rigid surface, dotted with towering pinnacles, plunging craters, steep cliffs, and dozens of jets spewing violently, has surprised scientists....
Stardust images show pinnacles 100 meters tall (328 feet), and craters more than 150 meters deep (492 feet). Some craters have a round central pit surrounded by ragged, ejected material, while others have a flat floor and straight sides. The diameter of one large crater, called Left Foot, is one fifth of the surface of the comet. Left Foot is one kilometer (.62 miles) across, while the entire comet is only five kilometers (3.1 miles) across....
Comet Wild 2 has many strange pinnacles, some over 100 meters (.06 miles) high. Pinnacles are found on Earth but have not previously been seen on other solar system bodies....
Comparison of surface features of comet Wild 2 with Phoebe, a captured satellite of Saturn. Both of these objects are suspected to originate from the Kuiper belt.
IT IS NEW to the inner solar system.
IT IS IN PRISTINE CONDITION--By the date of encounter, it will have passed the sun only 5 times.
Strange Comet Unlike Anything Known
By Robert Roy Britt, 17 June 2004
A detailed analysis of the comet Wild 2 (pronounced "Vilt 2") has left astronomers astounded at an object that has no known peers in the solar system....
Brownlee told SPACE.com that Wild 2 could represent a unique class of comet. He and his colleagues had expected it to be relatively featureless with a dusty, charcoal-like coating. Instead they found a place riddled with apparently ancient impact craters. Broad mesas and steep canyons stand out clearly....
Wild 2 comet unlike any other
By Robert Roy Britt
...Among the new findings: Wild 2 has lost about 3 feet (1 meter) of its surface since 1974.
Stardust flew right through some of that coma material, avoiding boulder-sized objects and grabbing more than 1,000 tiny bits in a specially designed catcher's mitt....
The European Rosetta craft, recently launched, will land on a comet in 2014. NASA's Deep Impact will slam a probe into comet Tempel 1 on Independence Day 2005.
Claudia Alexander, a program scientist for Rosetta from NASA's Jet Propulsion Laboratory, has modeled comets for years. She did not expect the number of jets or their ability to lift the large chunks thought to then break up and create the particle swarms. And she's surprised that the comet is apparently not a loosely cemented rubble pile.
"I would have told you it wasn't going to be like that," Alexander said. "We are astonished and intrigued."
Windows to the Universe
...Although Marsden had indicated in 1978 that this comet had passed close to Jupiter in 1974, it was S. Nakano who uncovered more of the details in 1979. He said the comet had passed only 0.2 AU from Jupiter in 1974. This close approach drastically decreased the orbital period from nearly 40 years to only 6.17 years, while the perihelion distance was decreased from 4.9 AU to only 1.49 AU....
Close approaches to planets: This comet made 1 close approach to Earth, 1 close approach to Mars, and 1 close approach to Jupiter during the 20th century. It makes 3 close approaches to Earth during the first half of the 21st century. (From the orbital work of Kazuo Kinoshita)
0.0061 AU from Jupiter on 1974 September 9
decreased perihelion distance from 4.95 AU to 1.49 AU
decreased orbital period from 43.17 to 6.17 years
0.07 AU from Mars on 1978 August 5
0.85 AU from Earth on 1997 February 12
0.67 AU from Earth on 2010 April 5
0.92 AU from Earth on 2029 February 8
0.65 AU from Earth on 2042 April 5
...The asteroid is part of a belt of debris between Mars and Jupiter WHICH MAY BE THE REMAINS OF A PLANET....
and hoped to maybe meet planetary geologist Gene Shoemaker during one of my working visits in AZ in 1997. Gene and his wife were the first to raise the red flag that there were MANY potential earth crossing asteroids unaccounted for by astronomers.
I did not cross paths with Gene. I traveled to Kitt Peak; he, I later learned, was in Flagstaff at that time. A week or so later I read he was killed in a car accident tracking down an impact crater in Australia. His wife survived the crash. His death evidently prompted astronomers to take NEO asteroids more seriously, and, oh my, the catalogue is growing!
A recently discovered earth crosser, 2004 FU 162, is calculated to potentially impact earth over 800 TIMES between 2006 and 2104.
Yes, I could not resist looking up 162 in my Hebrew-Chaldean Concordance. It says: "appar. a prim word expressing pain exclamatorily; Oh!-ah, alas."
By the way, delving into astrophysics served to strengthen my faith in YHWH, our Creator. The evidence of His Mighty Work is EVERYWHERE, from the smallest of the small to the entire breath of the cosmos, His Name is clearly written. Baruch HaShem! I am forever thankful for our G-d who sacrificed His only Son so we may live together with Him in Heaven.
Thank you again for your diligence in studying His Word and posting answers to scriptural questions. You do much to encourage me. I believe many are in agreement that you are a source of great solace for His sheep and I pray our Father gives you much favor for your devotion to Him. I ask this for you, your husband and loved ones in Yeshua HaMashiash's Name, Amen! In His Unfailing Love, His bondservant
I met Eleanor Helin briefly once at an astronomy meeting. Shoemaker and Helin are greats to be remembered in this field.
> > A recently discovered earth crosser, 2004 FU 162, is calculated to potentially impact earth over 800 TIMES between 2006 and 2104.
Wow! How about Tishri 1, 5771 (Sept. 9, 2010)? If you ever spot that date, please let me know.
I went to http://neo.jpl.nasa.gov/risk/
Among others, these were listed:
2004 VC 17 (2074-2102) 10 possible impacts - est. diam. .590 - 1 (i.e., needs careful monitoring)
1997 XR 2 (2101-2101) 2 possible impacts - est. diam. .230 - 1 (i.e., needs careful monitoring)
2004 FU 162 (2006-2104) 824 possible impacts - est. diam. .006 - 0 (no likely consequences)
The diameter could vary by a factor of 2. The year 2006+ makes the one you found very interesting. If you find more interesting ones, please share the information with me.
We've had a warning already, sort of an across-the-bow shot. One hit the Mediterranean Sea not too long ago. I think the asteroid that exploded with a Hiroshema-like blast over the Mediterranean Sea June 6, 2002, was a warning of coming events. Soon after that, on June 17, astronomers got a wake-up call.
Space rock's close approach, By Dr David Whitehouse
6-20-02..."Astronomers have revealed that on 14 June, an asteroid the size of a football pitch made one of the closest ever recorded approaches to the Earth.
"It is only the sixth time an asteroid has been seen to penetrate the Moon's orbit, and this is by far the biggest rock to do so.
"What has worried some astronomers, though, is that the space object was only detected on 17 June, several days after its flyby....
"'Wake up call'
"The space rock has a diameter of between 50-120 metres (160 - 320 feet). This is actually quite small when compared with many other asteroids and incapable of causing damage on a global scale.
"Nonetheless, an impact from such a body would still be dangerous.
"If 2002MN had hit the Earth, it would have caused local devastation similar to that which occurred in Tunguska, Siberia, in 1908, when 2,000 square kilometres of forest were flattened....
"Dr John Davies, of the Royal Observatory Edinburgh, has calculated the orbit of the asteroid from the Linear data.
"He concludes that the asteroid came out of the Sun and was impossible for Linear to see until one hour after its flyby of the Earth on the 14th."
"Rev. 8:8 says, "the second angel sounded, and as it were a great mountain burning with fire was cast into the sea: and the third part of the sea became blood".
Zeph. 2:1-5 says, "Gather yourselves together, yea, gather together, O nation not desired (Israel, not wanted by the Palestinians); Before the decree bring forth, before the day pass as the chaff, before the fierce anger of the LORD come upon you, before the DAY OF THE LORD's anger come upon you. Seek ye the LORD, all ye meek of the earth, which have wrought his judgment; seek righteousness, seek meekness: it may be ye shall be HID (or caught up to Heaven in the Pre-Wrath Rapture) in the day of the LORD's anger (maybe the Feast of Trumpets in 2010). For Gaza shall be forsaken, and Ashkelon a desolation: they shall drive out Ashdod at the NOON day, and Ekron shall be rooted up. Woe unto the inhabitants of the sea coast."
The asteroid in the picture looks like it could break apart easily, forming the asteroids of Rev. 8:8 and 10, and releasing the rocks that fall like figs in a windstorm when Yeshua breaks the 6th seal on the Eve of Trumpets (Rev. 6:12,13), the Eve of the DAY OF THE LORD. Zech. 5 says that the curse that orbits the face of the Earth is twice as long as wide. We have been warned.
> > Oh!-ah, alas
> > The evidence of His Mighty Work is EVERYWHERE, from the smallest of the small to the entire breath of the cosmos, His Name is clearly written. Baruch HaShem!
Amen! How some can't see that is beyond me. If we look no further than our miraculous bodies, we should see that. Just the various chemical factories in our bodies are mind boggling. They couldn't happen by chance. Neither could the intricately interwoven information in the Bible have been concocted by man. That's so impossible, I can't see how anyone could think such a thing for more than a fleeting second.
> > I am forever thankful for our G-d who sacrificed His only Son so we may live together with Him in Heaven.
I am forever thankful too. We didn't deserve it. For Yeshua to have gone through what he did for us seems way beyond anything we could have ever hoped for. For some to be unable to tie that in with Prov. 30:4 seems unreal too. It says, "Who hath ascended up into heaven, or descended? who hath gathered the wind in his fists? who hath bound the waters in a garment? who hath established all the ends of the earth? what is his name (YHWH), and what is his son's name (YHWHshua, YAHshua, Y'shua, Yeshua), if thou canst tell?"
Yeshua said, "I am come in my Father's name, and ye receive me not: if ANOTHER shall come in his own name, him ye will receive" (John 5:43). Yeshua did come in his Father's name. We are now at the crossroads. "ANOTHER" is about to be revealed, and I think he will come out of Israel. He might be of the tribe of Dan. It has been associated with idolatry and is left out of the list of the 144,000 in Rev. 7.
Dan. 7:8 says, "I considered the horns, and, behold, there came up among them ANOTHER little horn, before whom there were three of the first horns plucked up by the roots: and, behold, in this horn were eyes like the eyes of man, and a mouth speaking great things." Rev. 13:11 adds, "And I beheld ANOTHER beast coming up out of the earth (i.e., erets Israel); and he had two horns (two comings to power) like a lamb (Yeshua, 'a Lamb as it had been slain,' Rev. 5:6), and he (ANOTHER, the False Prophet) spake as a dragon" (because he's indwelt by Satan).
"Worthy is the Lamb that was slain to receive power, and riches, and wisdom, and strength, and honour, and glory, and blessing" (Rev. 5:12). After we are caught up to Heaven, we will sing the "new song, saying, Thou art worthy to take the book, and to open the seals thereof: for thou wast slain, and hast redeemed us to God by thy blood out of every kindred, and tongue, and people, and nation."
No wonder his name is called Wonderful in Isa. 9:6. It says, "For unto us a child is born (inheriting his human nature from his mother), unto us a son is given (inheriting his deity from his Father): and the government shall be upon his shoulder: and his name shall be called Wonderful, Counsellor, The mighty God, The everlasting Father, The Prince of Peace."
> > I pray our Father gives you much favor for your devotion to Him. I ask this for you, your husband and loved ones in Yeshua HaMashiash's Name, Amen!
Thanks, I pray the same for you and yours in Yeshua HaMashiash's Name.
Berakah, Agape and Shalom
> > I hope you have nailed it this time . If not I'll watch for the next possibility
Same here. Thanks for your kind words. Agape
Up until a couple of years ago, I had not even heard the possibility of the rapture in 2007. Then one Saturday morning, I was in a time of prayer. All of a sudden, I had a vision in which I saw in bright light "2-0-0-7". I then heard what I believe to be the voice of the Lord saying "I will wrap things up in 2007". This struck me as very odd.
A few days later, my oldest son (who was 4 at the time) woke up one morning telling us about a dream he had. He said that in his dream he saw a bunch of angels come and take us to a place where there was a wedding taking place. He then proceeded to tell us that in the dream, he was 9 years old. I responded by saying it was a nice dream and even mentioned how it sounded like a dream about the rapture. Then, all of a sudden, it struck me. The last thing he told me was how old he would be when this happens. My son was born August 20, 1998. That means that he will be 9 years old on (and after) August 20, 2007.
This whole scenario hit me like a bolt of lightning. Two spiritual occurrences, completely disconnected from each other, within a week that alluded to a rapture on or after August 20th, 2007 (I remember reading on your web site that you mentioned September 13, 2007 as a probable date).
At this point, I began doing research. I studied in particular the prophecy in which Jesus spoke about the fig tree and this generation not passing away until these things be fulfilled. I came to the conclusion (just as you have) that a generation was probably 40 years. I then used as a reference point the year 1967 (Israel's rebirth) taking us to the year 2007.
In light of all this, I was very excited to find your web site and see a confirmation of many things that I had learned. Until now, I thought I was all alone in these conclusions. Goodbye and God bless!
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