Pro and Con 1174

Posted 12-29-04

Boy Jesus Image Created from Turin Shroud

By Rossella Lorenzi, 12-23-04

Italian policemen who specialize in the analysis of violent crimes have rejuvenated the image of the bearded man that appears on the Shroud of Turin, one of the most controversial relics in Christendom., producing what they claim is a close possible likeness of Jesus when he was a boy....

My outgoing email, Re: Monday Pentecost

Clues are revealed here a little and there a little. The wise can understand, but none of the wicked shall understand (Dan. 12:10). Isa. 28:13 says, "the word of the LORD was unto them precept upon precept, precept upon precept; line upon line, line upon line; here a little, and there a little; that they might go, and fall backward, and be broken, and snared, and taken."

Things are not always told us point blank. We have to search for clues all through the Bible and put the puzzle pieces together.

According to Josephus, a Pharisee priest, the Feast of Passover was Nisan 14, the Feast of Unleavened Bread was Nisan 15, and the Feast of Firstfruits was Nisan 16. Once Nisan 16 is set, we can easily count the 50 days to Pentecost.

Josephus said, "5. In the month of Xanthicus, which is by us called NISAN, and is the beginning of our year, on the FOURTEENTH DAY of the lunar month, when the sun is in Aries, (for in this month it was that we were delivered from bondage under the Egyptians,) the law ordained that we should every year slay that sacrifice which I before told you we slew when we came out of Egypt, and which was called the PASSOVER; and so we do celebrate this passover in companies, leaving nothing of what we sacrifice till the day following. The FEAST OF UNLEAVENED BREAD succeeds that of the passover, and falls on the FIFTEENTH day of the month, and continues seven days, wherein they feed on unleavened bread; on every one of which days two bulls are killed, and one ram, and seven lambs. Now these lambs are entirely burnt, besides the kid of the goats which is added to all the rest, for sins; for it is intended as a feast for the priest on every one of those days. But ON THE SECOND DAY OF UNLEAVENED BREAD, WHICH IS THE SIXTEENTH day of the month, they first partake of the fruits of the earth, for before that day they do not touch them. And while they suppose it proper to honor God, from whom they obtain this plentiful provision, in the first place, THEY OFFER THE FIRST-FRUITS of their barley, and that in the manner following: They take a handful of the ears, and dry them, then beat them small, and purge the barley from the bran [i.e., by using a sieve]; they then bring one tenth deal to the altar, to God; and, casting one handful of it upon the fire, they leave the rest for the use of the priest. And after this it is that they may publicly or privately reap their harvest. They also at this participation of the FIRST-FRUITS of the earth [i.e., NISAN 16], sacrifice a lamb, as a burnt-offering to God. "6. WHEN A WEEK OF WEEKS HAS PASSED over AFTER this sacrifice [i.e.AFTER THE FEAST OF FIRSTFRUITS ON NISAN 16], (WHICH WEEKS CONTAIN FORTY AND NINE DAYS,) on THE FIFTIETH DAY, which IS PENTECOST, but is called by the Hebrews Asartha, which signifies Pentecost, they bring to God a loaf, made of wheat flour, of two tenth deals, with leaven; and for sacrifices they bring two lambs; and when they have only presented them to God, they are made ready for supper for the priests; nor is it permitted to leave any thing of them till the day following." (Ant., III. X. 5-6).

I believe that these feasts were originally meant to apply to 30 AD, the year of the Crucifixion.

Nisan 14 was Friday.
Nisan 15 was Saturday
Nisan 16 was Sunday.

One week later, it was again Sunday.
Two weeks later, it was again Sunday.
Three weeks later, it was again Sunday.
Four weeks later, it was again Sunday.
Five weeks later, it was again Sunday.
Six weeks later, it was again Sunday.
Seven weeks (49 days) later, it was again Sunday.
The 50th day, Pentecost, was Monday.

That's when the Church was born into this world. The Spirit of Christ, which is the Spirit of God (Rom. 8:9), came to the disciples that day. I think the Church will be born into another new world on another Monday Pentecost. It makes sense in my head for Jesus came to the disciples on Pentecost. Why wouldn't he come to us on Pentecost?

De. 16:9 says, "Seven weeks shalt thou number unto thee: begin to number the seven weeks FROM such time as thou beginnest to put the sickle to the corn." Thus, we BEGIN TO NUMBER THE SEVEN WEEKS FROM THE FEAST OF FIRSTFRUITS. Since Firstfruits was on Sunday, the first day of the week, in 30 AD, the 49th day was on Sunday, and Pentecost was on Monday.

However, the Jews celebrate Pentecost on Sivan 6 and 7. Therefore, either date reminds us of Pentecost.

Lev. 23:11, 15,16 (KJV) agrees. It says, "he shall wave the sheaf before the LORD, to be accepted for you: on the morrow (Sunday) after the sabbath (Saturday, the rest day) the priest shall wave it....And ye shall count unto you FROM the morrow (Sunday) after the sabbath (Saturday), from the day that ye brought the sheaf of the wave offering (Sunday); seven sabbaths (weeks, 49 days) shall be complete: Even unto the morrow (Monday) after the seventh sabbath (Sunday) shall ye number fifty days; and ye shall offer a new meat offering unto the LORD."

Lev. 23:11,15,16 (Stone Edition Tanach) says, "He shall wave the Omer before HASHEM to gain favor for you; ON THE MORROW (i.e., Sunday) OF THE REST DAY (i.e., Saturday) THE KOHEN SHALL WAVE IT...You shall count for yourselves--FROM THE MORROW (Sunday) OF THE REST DAY (Saturday), from the day when you bring the Omer of the waving (Sunday)--seven weeks, they shall be complete. Until the morrow (Monday) of the seventh week (ending on Sunday) you shall count, fifty days; and you shall offer anew meal-offering to HASHEM."

The note in the Stone Edition says, "Shavuos (i.e., Pentecost) is not identified as a specific day in the calendar, but as the fiftieth day after the Omer-offering".

Pentecost is also called the Feast of Weeks. Ex. 34:22 (KJV) says, "thou shalt observe the feast of weeks, of the firstfruits of wheat harvest." We are the firstfruits of wheat harvest.

De. 16:9 says, "Seven weeks shalt thou number unto thee: BEGIN TO NUMBER THE SEVEN WEEKS FROM SUCH TIME AS THOU BEGINNEST TO PUT THE SICKLE TO THE CORN. And thou shalt keep the feast of weeks".

We are firstfruits, and Pentecost is the feast of harvest. Ex. 23:16 says, "the FEAST OF HARVEST, THE FIRSTFRUITS of thy labours, which thou hast sown in the field."



Please read my aritcle, whereby you will be illuminated as to the exact nature of the prophet Ezekiel's vision of the four "living creatures" by the river of Chevar in the year 593 B.C. Share it with all of your colleagues. Contrary to mainstream exegetical views, Ezekiel in no way saw four feather-winged cherubs! He saw angelic chariots, and describes them in perfect detail. My new translation of Ezekiel chapter 1 and relevant, non-redundant portions of chapter 10 allow for one to draw a precise drawing of the chariot Ezekiel describes. Read also what the divergent yet unanimous exegetical voices of antiquity have to say about what the prophet saw in the heavens. See the attached drawing of the chariot. I invite any questions and/or comments. The truth about angelic chariots must be made known. In Christ
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My reply

> > The word I have rendered as "construction" and "operation" is the same Hebrew word and has two different meanings. English Bibles errantly render it both times it appears in the text as either "construction/structure/ workmanship" or as "work", which can also be rendered as "operation." It should be rendered differently each time in the verse. It is the "spinning wheel" that is referenced in Ezekiel 10:2,6,13. The wheels have the same shape...wheels within wheels. If I lived in the year 593 B.C., I could not describe a "FLYING SAUCER" in a better way.
> > Jewish Midrashim: “Twenty-two thousand chariots descended at Sinai, and each of them looked exactly like the ones Ezekiel saw.”
> > “Twenty-two thousand chariots descended at Sinai, and each of them looked like the Merkabah.”
> > Vs.4) “And I looked [up into the heavens], and saw a whirlwind come from out of the north; an immense cloud that was surrounded by brightness and fire flashing forth continuously in a circle, and in the middle of which there was something that looked like something like a round amber metallic object [NIV Bible translation renders Hebrew "ayin chashmal" [literally "eye of amber", as "glowing metal." It is a round, amber colored metallic orb. This is God's chariot/Merkabah.
> > The Wheel in the middle of the wheel
The greater wheel references the chariot’s overall shape, which is circular like a wheel. The wheel the middle of the greater wheel is a spinning, turbine-like wheel, which functions as the chariot’s propulsion system.
> > Also, examine this website, in which there are many historical representations in the biblical art that serve to suport my work in the above texts

This is an example of the kind of thing my research turned up when I spent 7 fruitless years reading books from BIOLA's Seminary Collection, trying hard to understand the "cherubim" and the "flaming sword" of Gen. 3:24 and the "cherubim" of Eze. 1 and 10. I couldn't find anything believable. Authors either left that part out or went off on a flight of fancy. Finally, I told the Lord he would have to show me. I laid aside man's writings about the Bible and studied the scriptures just using Strong's Concordance.

In Eze. 1:4, I started looking up words in the concordance. I read about "a fire infolding itself, and a brightness (nogahh, sunlight) was about it, and out of the midst thereof as the colour of amber, out of the midst of the fire." That was the first clue that made sense in my head. In verse 1, Ezekiel looked up at "the heavens," and what did he see? the Sun. Of course! That is what we would see. However, Ezekiel saw other things we would not see.

The Sun is "a fire infolding itself." It has bright sunlight about it. It looks amber in color. Now, that I could believe.

Then what were the wheels within wheels? There were only four of them. They were seen in the sky, yet "behold, one wheel (was) upon the earth" (v. 13). What kind of a wheel does Earth have that can be depicted as being in the sky going around the Sun? An orbit! Then these four concentric wheels around the central Sun are the orbits of the four terrestrial planets, Mercury, Venus, Earth and Mars. Nothing else makes sense to me.

Over the heads of the terrestrial planets, i.e., farther out in space, was Christ's throne. "And over their heads was the likeness of a throne, as the appearance of a sapphire stone: and upon the likeness of the throne was the likeness as the appearance of a man (Yeshua/Jesus) above upon it" (v. 26). Sapphire means dear to the planet Saturn, from the Sanskrit Sani, Saturn, and priya, dear. Therefore, I think the location of Christ's throne is on Saturn.

Ex. 24:10 says that at Mt. Sinai, "they saw the God of Israel: and there was under his feet as it were (symbolic language) a paved work of a sapphire (Saturn) stone (planet), and as it were the body of heaven (the heavenly body) in his clearness." The sapphire pavement at Mt. Sinai represented Heaven, the planet Saturn.

Around Saturn, Ezekiel saw "brightness round about. As the appearance of the bow that is in the cloud in the day of rain, so was the appearance of the brightness round about" (vs. 27,28). Both the rainbow and Saturn's rings show colors when the sunlight shines on ice crystals. God has given Heaven a halo.

One version of the Bible I read said from the equator upward, and from the equator downward in v. 27. In other words, Saturn is amber colored from the equator upward and from the equator downward. Today, the Cassini spaceship is in orbit around Saturn photographing the planet. It definitely looks amber.

What are the cherubim? They are the four terrestrial planets. How did God place cherubim to the east of Eden (Gen. 3:24)? He placed them in the sky. As Earth rotates, they come up in the east.

What is "the flaming sword which turned every way" of Gen. 3:24? I think it is an asteroid that turns every way. It rotates and orbits. It is twice as long as it is wide (Zech. 5:1-4). It is "the curse that goeth forth over the face of the whole earth." After it breaks into two pieces, one piece like "a great mountain burning with fire" (Rev. 8:8) will impact the Mediterranean Sea (Zeph. 2:3-5). The larger piece is called "a great star (aster, star or asteroid) from heaven, burning as a lamp" in Rev. 8:10. It will destroy the city of Babylon, Iraq.

The "aster" is named Wormwood, meaning bitterness. I think it is a piece of Satan's former planet, Rahab, that split apart and formed our Asteroid Belt. Isa. 51:9 says, "Awake, awake, put on strength, O arm of the LORD (Christ); awake, as in the ancient days, in the generations of old. Art thou not it that hath cut (split) Rahab, and wounded the dragon?" (Satan).

Indeed the pre-incarnate Christ is the one that split Rahab. He is both LORD and Christ. Acts 2:36 says, "Therefore let all the house of Israel know assuredly, that God hath made the same Jesus, whom ye have crucified, both Lord and Christ." Isa. 44:6 says, "Thus saith the LORD (YHWH) the King of Israel, AND his redeemer the LORD (YHWH) of hosts; I am the first (YHWH King of Israel), AND I am the last (his redeemer the YHWH of hosts (Yeshua/Jesus Christ); and beside me there is no God." II Cor. 5:19 says point blank, "God was in Christ, reconciling the world unto himself."

Now that I know that the cherubim are actually planets, I can understand I Sam. 4:4. It says, "So the people sent to Shiloh, that they might bring from thence the ark of the covenant of the LORD of hosts (Christ), which dwelleth between the cherubims" (i.e., He dwells between the planets Jupiter and Uranus).

The four cherubim in Eze. 1 are depicted as lively things that fly and do not turn aside, but follow the four faces whose pictures were on the banners placed at the cardinal points of the compass when Israel camped in the wilderness. In other words, they fly in circles and face the four points of the compass in turn. Their wings are quarters, reminding me of Earth's astronomical sign, a circle with a cross in the middle. The cherubim had "the hands (extremities) of a man" (adam, meaning red clay) under their wings. That fits the terrestrial planets. Their disks in the sky are round.

They look like lamps, and correlate with the lampstand in the temple. Josephus said that the lamps stood for the planets, the Sun included (Ant. III. VI. 7). That's why the western lamp was to always be kept lit. It stood for the Sun. The eastern lamp stood for Saturn. In order, the seven lamps stood for the Sun, Mercury, Venus, Earth, Mars, Jupiter and Saturn. Agape








My reply

I just posted my update on my Home Page today. I have high hopes that the Rapture will be next Pentecost.

Where I went wrong before seems to be because I thought that since the Israelites wandered in the wilderness 40 years while one generation died off, a generation was 40 years. I should have gone by Mt. 1:17. That works out to be 48.33 years. Also, I think that 1998 was the 6000th year since Adam was cast out of Eden. There seem to be added 7 good years and 7 bad years, as when Joseph was in Egypt. 1998 + 7 = 2005. Go to my home page for all the details. Agape

Asteroid May Hit Earth in 2029, Being Watched Closely

By Robert Roy Britt, 12-25-04 Agape An asteroid that has a small chance of hitting Earth in the year 2029 was upgraded to an unprecedented level of risk Friday, Dec. 24.... Agape The risk rating for asteroid 2004 MN4 was raised Friday by NASA and a separate group of researchers in Italy. Agape The asteroid's chance for hitting Earth on April 13, 2029 has now been categorized as a 4 on the Torino Scale. The level 4 rating -- never before issued -- is reserved for "events meriting concern" versus the vast majority of potentially threatening asteroids that merely merit "careful monitoring."... Agape Asteroid 2004 MN4 is an unusual case in that follow-up observations have caused the risk assessment to climb -- from Torino level 2 to 4 --rather than fall.... Agape It was discovered in June and spotted again this month. It is about a quarter mile (400 meters) wide.... Agape The 323-day orbit of 2004 MN4 lies mostly within the orbit of Earth. The asteroid approaches the Sun almost as close as the orbit of Venus. It crosses near the Earth's orbit twice on each of its passages about the Sun....

The Last Trump

"We cannot go to the Book of Revelation and say that the voice of the seventh angel (Revelation 11:15) is the last trump. In the first century, the last trump (shofar) meant a specific day in the year. In Judaism, there are three trumpets (shofarim) that have a name. They are the first trump, the last trump, and the great trump. Each one of these trumpets indicates a specific day in the Jewish year. The first trump is blown on the Feast of Shavuot (Pentecost) (Exodus [Shemot] 19:19). It proclaimed that G-d had betrothed Himself to Israel. The last trump is synonymous with Rosh HaShanah, according to Theodore Gaster in his book, Festivals of the Jewish Year, in his chapter on Rosh HaShanah. Herman Kieval also states the same thing in his book, The High Holy Days (Volume I, Rosh HaShanah, Chapter 5, Footnote 11), in the chapter on the shofar. The great trumpet is blown on Yom Kippur, which will herald the return of the Messiah Yeshua back to earth (Matthew [Mattityahu] 24:31)."...

Remains of 'Miracle' Site Identified

By RAMIT PLUSHNICK-MASTI, 12-23-04,0,829442.story?coll=sns-ap-world-headlines

JERUSALEM -- Archaeologists in Jerusalem have identified the remains of the Siloam Pool, where the Bible says Jesus miraculously cured a man's blindness, researchers said Thursday -- underlining a stirring link between the works of Jesus and ancient Jewish rituals.

The archaeologists are slowly digging out the pool, where water still runs, tucked away in what is now the Arab neighborhood of Silwan....

The archaeologists excavating the site are with the Israeli government's Antiquities Authority. They found biblical-era coins marked with ancient Jewish writing...

Canal where 'Jesus gave sight' found

By Etgar Lefkovits, 12-23-04

...Coins found at the site date back to the first century BCE....

Israel Museum: artifact touted as only existing relic of Solomon's Temple a forgery

By KARIN LAUB, 12-24-04

An ivory pomegranate long touted by scholars as the only relic from Solomon's Temple is a forgery, the Israel Museum said Friday, as investigators said they had broken up several fake antiquity rings in a wide-ranging investigation.

Indictments in that investigation are to be handed down next week, the officials said on condition of anonymity.

Among those to be indicted is Israeli collector Oded Golan, the Justice Ministry confirmed. Golan, who denied wrongdoing, owns the two most spectacular artifacts declared fakes last year: a burial chest purported to be that of James, the brother of Jesus, and a stone tablet with inscriptions on how to maintain the Jewish Temple....

Incoming email, Re: Ascension Day!

I was thinking that we always operate on Jerusalem time, as far as times of prophecy fullfilment? If it is midnight in Jerusalem, we would just apply the time zone differences? How would Ascension Day 2005 fit into the 2300 days of Revelation, if today is not the Rapture? Don't you just thrill at talking about it, in actualities,as if it is upon us?!!

I believe it is! Oh, how we need to live holy lives, sharing the gospel! Thank you, again for allowing us to depend on your deep study.

My reply

Thanks for your kind words.

You're right, everything could be figured using Jerusalem time.

> > How would Acension Day 2005 fit into the 2300 days of Revelation

I don't think it does. The 2300 days have failed twice.

The year of the Day of the Lord and the Second Advent must be a Hebrew Leap Year, for there are 7 months between Tishri 1 (Day of the Lord) and Nisan 1 (Second Advent) (Eze. 39:12,13, Hosea 6:3).

According to the 42 generations in Mt. 1:17, a generation would be 48.33 years (2030 divided by 42 = 48.33). They wandered in the wilderness 40 years. Therefore we can add 40 or 48 years for one generation. Adding 40 years to 1967, because the Six-Day War was the Sign of the End of the Age, brings us to 5768 (2007/2008). Subtracting 2300 days from Tishri 1, 5768 (Sept. 13, 2007) was Pentecost in 2001 (using inclusive reckoning). That didn't work out.

I tried the next Leap Year, 5771 (2010/2011). Since Eze. 45:18,21 shows that the sanctuary is to be cleansed Nisan 1 instead of Tishri 1, maybe the 2300 days of Dan. 8:13,14 would take us to the Second Advent instead of the Day of the Lord, which is the Day of God's Wrath. Without using inclusive reckoning, subtracting 2300 days from Nisan 1 (Apr. 5, 2011) was Dec. 17, 2004. That didn't work out either.

Since 1967 + 48 = 2015, we only have one more Leap Year to try, 5774 (2013/2014). Figuring 2300 days before Nisan 1, April 1, 2014, not using inclusive reckoning, we come to Friday, Dec. 14, 2007. Current events make a date this far away sound unlikely, so the 2300 days may not apply to the shortened Tribulation.

Read my latest post on my home page, about the story told by trumpets and grapes, and you will see why Pentecost, 2005, now seems to me like the best bet for the Rapture.

Pentecost is the time when "the sour grape is ripening in the flower." Isa. 18:5 says, "For AFORE THE HARVEST (at the vintage, Tishri 1, time of the 2nd Rapture, the Pre-Wrath Rapture), WHEN THE BUD IS PERFECT, AND THE SOUR GRAPE IS RIPENING IN THE FLOWER (i.e., in the spring), he shall both cut off the sprigs (i.e., ones with fruit) with pruning hooks, and TAKE AWAY (the wise virgins in the Pre-Trib Rapture) and cut down the branches" (i.e., cut off the foolish virgins with no fruit, Luke 12:46). Gal. 5:22 says, "the fruit of the Spirit is love, joy, peace, longsuffering, gentleness, goodness, faith."

It is also the time when Song of Solomon 2:13 says, "THE VINES WITH THE TENDER GRAPE GIVE A GOOD SMELL. ARISE, MY LOVE, MY FAIR ONE, AND COME AWAY."

Also, the spies were sent into the Promised Land early. It was THE TIME OF THE FIRSTRIPE GRAPES (Nu. 13:20-23). When they returned 40 days later, they brought back such a large bunch of grapes that they had to sling it on a staff between two men. Agape

Incoming email, Re: 587BC

Dear Marilyn, I have sent the e-mail below to Jim Bramlett. I trust that you and yours will have a peaceful Christmas and a fruitful 2005 in The Lord. Yours sincerely,
(A 48 year old - born again on 2nd May 1994, Christian lecturer in Civil Engineering, at the University of Paisley - about 6 miles S.W. of Glasgow, Scotland, UK.)

Dear (Jim) Bramlett,
I read your recent letter to Bible Prophecy Corner. I believe God has shown me two ways to confirm that 587BC is the correct date.

(1) J. Sidlow Baxter, in his book, "Exploring The Book", said that God gave precise dates for two events,
(i) the start of the seige of Jerusalem, and
(ii) when the temple found was laid in the second year of King Darius, which many state was in 520BC.

Using a calendar converter, 70 prophetic years back from the 520BC date goes back to the start of the seige within a day or so; i.e. from a calendar converter, I got 25202 days; and 70 x 360 = 25200! Interestingly, 25202 days is almost exactly 69 solar years of 365.24 days.

(2) The Seige was in the 11th Year of Zedekiah. The Bible usually calls this the 19th of Nebuchadnezzar, but at the end of Jeremiah, in verse 52:29, it seems to be called Nebuchadnezzar's 18th Year. The usual '19th' Year count seems to be based on a Non-Accession Year system, and the '18th' Year count on an Accession Year system. Many encyclopedias state that Nebuchadnezzar took over the throne when his father, Nabopollasar, died in 605-604BC. If that year is counted as either Nebuchadnezzar's Year Zero or One, it takes us to 587-586BC for his 19th or 18th Year!.

Daniel Et Al were probably taken in the Year 606-605BC."

My reply

Thanks for sharing with us. Agape

Incoming email

Subject: funny huh?Saturn pic of the day Dec 25th2004!!!!

We all love you & Ed & Family here in TEXAS!!!!!!
til that blessed time, Merry Christmas
Feast @ HOME SO SOON!!!!

My reply

Thanks for your kind words.

Saturn sure fits Eze. 1:27's "I saw as the colour of amber," I wish I could remember which Bible translated "from the appearance of his loins even upward" as from the equator upward. That's what it means. Saturn is amber from the equator upward and downward.

I think it is so amazing that the Cassini spacecraft is orbiting Saturn right now. In John 14:3,4, Jesus said, "if I go and prepare a place for you, I will come again, and receive you unto myself; that where I am, there ye may be also. And whither I go ye know, and the way ye know." The Cassini spacecraft proved that we do know the way to Saturn.

Hope you have had a wonderful day. Agape

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