Pro and Con 1184

Posted 2-24-05

Mars pictures reveal frozen sea

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/science/nature/4285119.stm

A huge, frozen sea lies just below the surface of Mars, a team of European scientists has announced.

Their assessment is based on pictures of the planet's near-equatorial Elysium region that show plated and rutted features across an area 800 by 900km.

The team think a catastrophic event flooded the landscape five million years ago and then froze out...

My comment

Sure, a catastrophy like the splitting up of the planet Rahab in what is now the Asteroid Belt.

Jordanian envoy: Peace deal between Israel, PA close

By Yoav Stern
http://www.haaretzdaily.com/hasen/spages/543589.html

Jordan's new Ambassador to Israel, Marouf al-Bakhit, believes an Israeli-Palestinian peace treaty is within reach.

"I followed the talks in 2000 and 2001 closely. At the Taba talks the positions were only centimeters apart," he told reporters Tuesday in a first interview with Israeli media....

Indictment of Oded Golan, et al, concerning the James ossuary and the Jehoash tablet

http://www.biblicalarchaeologyreview.org/bswbOOossuary_indictment.pdf

Incoming email, Re: brightest cosmic flash ever recorded reaches Earth

Interesting that this happened 1 day after the earthquake and tsunami....

(Brightest Galactic Flash Ever Detected Hits Earth
By Robert Roy Britt, 2-18-05
http://www.space.com/scienceastronomy/bright_flash_050218.html)

A huge explosion halfway across the galaxy packed so much power it briefly altered Earth's upper atmosphere in December, astronomers said Friday....

The blast originated about 50,000 light-years away and was detected Dec. 27....

The commotion was caused by a special variety of neutron star known as a magnetar. These fast-spinning, compact stellar corpses -- no larger than a big city -- create intense magnetic fields that trigger explosions. THE BLAST WAS 100 TIMES MORE POWERFUL THAN ANY OTHER SIMILAR ERUPTION WITNESSED, said David Palmer of Los Alamos National Laboratory, one of several researchers around the world who monitored the event with various telescopes....

"This is a once-in-a-lifetime event," said Rob Fender of Southampton University in the UK. "We have observed an object only 20 kilometers across [12 miles], on the other side of our galaxy, releasing more energy in a tenth of a second than the Sun emits in 100,000 years."...

Researchers don't know exactly why the burst was so incredible. The star, named SGR 1806-20, spins once on its axis every 7.5 seconds, and it is surrounded by a magnetic field more powerful than any other object in the universe....

"The next biggest flare ever seen from any soft gamma repeater was peanuts compared to this incredible Dec. 27 event," said Gaensler of the CfA.

My reply

Thanks. Another sign in the heavens, i.e., the Constellations. Agape

Huge 'star-quake' rocks Milky Way

2-18-05 (It happened 12-27-04)
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/sci/tech/4278005.stm

SGR 1806-20 has intense magnetic fields Astronomers say they have been stunned by the amount of energy released in a star explosion on the far side of our galaxy, 50,000 light-years away.

The flash of radiation on 27 December was so powerful that it bounced off the Moon and lit up the Earth's atmosphere....

We figure that it's probably the biggest explosion observed by humans within our galaxy since Johannes Kepler saw his supernova in 1604," Dr Rob Fender, of Southampton University, UK, told the BBC News website....

"This is a once-in-a-lifetime event. We have observed an object only 20km across, on the other side of our galaxy, RELEASING MORE ENERGY IN A 10TH OF A SECOND THAN THE SUN EMITS IN 100,000 YEARS," said Dr Fender....

The event overwhelmed detectors on space-borne telescopes, such as the recently launched Swift observatory.

This facility was put above the Earth to detect and analyse gamma-ray bursts - very intense but fleeting flashes of radiation...

SGR 1806-20 is sited in the southern constellation Sagittarius.

Incoming email, Re: Yahoo News Story: Monster star burst was brighter than full Moon

Take a look at this article:
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http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&u=/afp/20050218/sc_afp/astronomyspaceflare_050218192323

2-18-05 - PARIS (AFP) - Stunned astronomers described the greatest cosmic explosion ever monitored -- a star burst from the other side of the galaxy that was briefly brighter than the full Moon and swamped satellites and telescopes....

My reply

Thanks. Do you remember the huge gamma ray burst in the tip of Bootes spear? It was so huge it was mind boggling. Now NASA has announced that one a hundred times greater was seen on Dec. 27, 2004, the day after the earthquake and huge tsunami in the Indian Ocean. Wow! that was like a 1-2-3 punch. I think we have had another sign, this time in Sagittarius. It represents Christ as a two-natured being. The cloth cape shows that he is a religious leader, a man of the cloth. He is aiming an arrow at Scorpio/Satan. His time on the face of this Earth is getting short. Ours is even shorter. Agape

Her reply

Yes I do remember the huge gamma ray burst; that's why I noticed this new article - and the size of this one so much bigger!

So many signs. Palestine and Israel - I heard George Bush say, on television, just a couple of days ago, when referring to Israel and Palestine - "peace and safety"

Incoming email, Re: Blue Skies on Saturn

Bless you for you perseverance and the way you're blessed with an ability to stand strong in the face of all your critics and those that wish to disprove you.

There are times in your site that you've spoken about the planet Saturn being the "New Jerusalem" and sometimes I think to myself that "I don't know, going from one planet to another, well………..". I'm not challenging you, I just don't have the understanding of what you do or the cross referencing resources, or the length of walk.

I do, as I'm sure you do, watch the news, read and consider many source of current day information in efforts to see how today ties into scripture with the any day arrival of His return to take me away.

Anyway, so this morning, I get my occasional New Scientist email and what is it about?

NASA Science News for February 17, 2005

NASA's Cassini spacecraft has discovered another world with blue skies: Saturn.
http://science.nasa.gov/headlines/y2005/17feb_bluesaturn.htm?list71765

You can guess whom I thought of immediately as I thought to myself - "oh Lord!"

Still a reader, still watching, still waiting. Still a Christian waiting for His return. Your fellow follower of Christ Jesus. Thank you.
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Blue Skies on Saturn NASA's Cassini spacecraft has discovered another world with blue skies: Saturn.

February 17, 2005: Fast forward 100 years: You're an astronaut piloting an airplane in the upper atmosphere of Saturn. The gas giant has no solid surface to walk on and no seas to put a boat in. Exploring Saturn means flying, dipping in and out of strangely-colored clouds, racing through ring shadows. It's a totally alien world.

It's so alien that you start to feel homesick. So you do what they taught you in astronaut training. Take a deep breath, look up at the sunny blue sky and pretend to be back on Earth. Works every time!

Sunny blue skies ... on Saturn? It's true. NASA's Cassini spacecraft discovered them in 2005.

Above: The blue skies of Saturn, photographed by Cassini in January 2005. In the foreground is Saturn's moon Mimas. The long, dark lines on the atmosphere are sun-shadows cast by the planet's rings....

"WE WERE SURPRISED," recalls JPL's Bob West, a member of the Cassini imaging team. "SATURN IS SUPPOSED TO BE YELLOW."...

Close to Saturn, the spacecraft was able to photograph the clear air above the planet's clouds. ("Air" on Saturn is mostly hydrogen.) The color there is blue.

"Saturn's skies are blue, we think, for the same reason Earth's skies are blue," says West. Molecules in the atmosphere scatter sunlight. On Earth the molecules are oxygen (O2) and nitrogen (N2). On Saturn the molecules are hydrogen (H2). Different planets, different molecules, but the effect is the same: blue light gets scattered around the sky. Other colors are scattered, too, but not as much as blue. Physicists call this "Rayleigh scattering."...

"There are some things we don't understand," says West. For example, while Saturn's northern hemisphere has blue skies, Saturn's southern hemisphere does not. The south looks yellow. It could be that southern skies on Saturn are simply cloudier, yellow clouds making yellow skies....

The mystery, says West, isn't why the south is cloudy--that's normal. It's why the north is clear. "For some [unknown] reason, Saturn's northern clouds have sunk deeper into the planet, leaving clear blue air behind."

Saturn's north is so blue that West believes amateur astronomers could see the hue from Earth. Unfortunately, the north of Saturn is hidden at the moment behind Saturn's rings, a situation that will persist for another year or so....

My reply

Thanks for your kind words.

> > "WE WERE SURPRISED," ..."SATURN IS SUPPOSED TO BE YELLOW."

That's rich. I'm surprised too, but I have been known to say that we know the Lord's taste. After all, he made the Earth. He likes soil, water, trees with leaves and fruit, and yes, blue skies. It figures.

As for Saturn being a gas planet, I don't think so. It just has very thick clouds. Psa. 78:69 says that the Lord "built his sanctuary (Tabernacle) like high palaces (planets), LIKE THE EARTH" (a planet with rock and soil). In the LXX, Job 38:37,38 says, "who is he that numbers the clouds in wisdom, and has BOWED THE HEAVEN (i.e., given Saturn rings made up of ice crystals like rainbows)...For it (Heaven) is spread out AS DUSTY EARTH, AND I HAVE CEMENTED IT AS ONE HEWN STONE TO ANOTHER" (i.e., he formed it by coalescence). God is always right.

Making the planets by coalescence is probably why they are spheres. Each rock is as close to the center of gravity as it can get.

Psa. 27:5 says, "In the time of (Jacob's) trouble (i.e., the Day of God's Wrath) he shall HIDE ME in his pavilion (cok, tabernacle): in THE SECRET OF HIS TABERNACLE shall be HIDE ME; he shall set me up upon A ROCK."

Zeph. 2:3 says, "Seek ye the LORD, all ye meek of the earth, which have wrought his judgment; seek righteousness, seek meekness: it may be YE SHALL BE HID (i.e., on the ROCK in the heavens) IN THE DAY OF THE LORD'S ANGER." Agape

Incoming email, Re: Paul's tomb in Rome?

> > People are usually buried near a headstone.

True. You saw the humor of that Article too. What a sign it will be for those left behind when the graves and Catacombs become "empty" at the Rapture! The rocks do cry out...did you see this regarding Edom confirming the Biblical records? (Yes)
http://www.southbendtribune.com/stories/2005/02/17/faith.20050217-sbt-MICH-D4-Carbon_dating_backs_.sto

In closing, it is unbelievable how the earthly church has confused the Christian observance of both Passover, First Fruits, and Pentecost through the traditions of religion and the use of the Greco-Roman Calendar. The more one studies Pentecost and the various layers of the Spiritual meaning the brighter the picture for a Pentecost Rapture. Thanks for publishing your long and faithful work towards:

Looking for that blessed hope, and the glorious appearing of the great God and our Savior Jesus Christ (Titus 2:13). Yours

My reply

Thanks for your kind words.

As for what I've done, I couldn't do otherwise. Long ago, I asked the Lord what he wanted me to do. As he often does, he trained me for what I was to do, way before I knew what it was. At the time, I wouldn't have known what the Internet was if he had told me. I had to just keep studying and see how it played out. I asked his guidance and just walked with him. Trusting him to guide me, I went through doors that opened, and didn't go through doors that closed.

As Dan. 12:4 says, "But thou, O Daniel, shut up the words, and seal the book, even to the time of the end: many shall run to and fro, and knowledge shall be increased."

I had no idea how much "knowledge shall be increased." It is astronomical. The Internet is a huge sign of the "time of the end." I've had to learn more about computers than I thought I wanted to, but that's ok. A computer is a great tool for increasing knowledge. I'm thankful for it.

In spite of uninstalling IE 6 and downloading it again, plus downloading a different FTP client program, I am still unable to upload to my main web site. I'll keep posting new Pro and Cons on
http://home.earthlink.net/~mjagee1
Agape

Incoming email, Re: Pentecost 2005 Alignment

Your new prediction date for the rapture around the Pentecost date in 2005, June 13th (Monday) starts to make a whole lot more sense within my timeline of tribulation Sept/Oct 05 to Sep/Oct 2012. Pentecost/Shavuoth also is a key date from biblical scripture as in 30AD (May 27-29) it was the final departure time for Christ and beginning of the "church age" with the Holy Spirit being left behind to shepherd the flock until the return of Christ. Astronomically, it is interesting to note the exact position of Jupiter in Virgo lined up on the meridian with Crux/Coma/Polaris was the same during the Magi visit around the mornings of Dec. 15-25, 2BC as will be the sky scene on/around Jun. 13th, 2005 Pentecost! The difference in Jupiters position in the midpart of Virgo is less than 1 degree after some 2006 years, pretty amazing "coincidence". As we move into Jan. 05, Venus/Mercury are putting on a pretty morning conjunction show before sunrise and the naked eye comet Macholz will pass the Pleiades cluster in Taurus on Jan. 6-8, 2005, day of the Innocents and orthodox church Christmas time. I hope to have a new version/copy of the Sky software for you...

My reply

I got The Sky Six. Thanks so much. It is truly a great program. I verified that Saturn was in Gemini when Noah entered the Ark on Sunday, Oct. 4, BC 2387.

Concerning the Rapture (when we will go through the "open door" of Rev. 3:8), in Mt. 24:37-41, Jesus said, "But as the days of Noe were, so shall also the coming of the Son of man be. For as in the days that were before the flood they were eating and drinking, marrying and giving in marriage, until the day that Noe entered into the ark, And knew not until the flood came, and took them all away; so shall also the coming of the Son of man be. Then shall two be in the field; the one shall be taken, and the other left. Two women (i.e., two religious groups) shall be grinding at the mill; the one (the wise Philadelphian virgin) shall be taken, and the other (the foolish Laodicean virgin) left."

Saturn is in Gemini now and will be on Pentecost, June 14, 2005, when I hope the Rapture will take place. Sivan 7, 5765, will start at 6 PM, June 13. Tuesday, June 14 will start at midnight on Sivan 7. That would be a great time for the Rapture.

To figure the day of the week of the Crucifixion, I first went to NASA and looked up Fred Espenak's Phases of the Moon charts, keeping in mind that Passover can be March 22 to April 21. It's the first full Moon after the Spring Equinox, March 21.

I then looked up each of these dates in The Sky Six. That gave me the day of the week and the position of Saturn on one chart. Can't beat that for ease of use. Here is the list of the Paschal Moon in the years 29 -33 AD.

29 AD, April 17, Sunday, Saturn was in Taurus
30 AD, April 6, Thursday, Saturn was in Gemini
31 AD, March 27, Tuesday, Saturn was in Gemini
32 AD, April 14, Monday, Saturn was in Cancer
33 AD, April 3, Friday, Saturn was in Cancer

It was as you thought, when considering just the day of the week, only 30 AD qualifies for a Thursday Crucifixion. I haven't heard of anyone that thought the Crucifixion could be on Sunday, Tuesday or Monday. Many think it was on Friday. This narrows the list to 30 and 33 AD. If Gemini is the sign of the Rapture, 33 AD is ruled out. This leaves Thursday, April 6, 30 AD as Crucifixion Day.

Since Saturn was in Gemini on Passover only in 30 and 31 AD, and Tuesday rules out 31 AD, we are again left with Thursday, April 6, 30 AD as Crucifixion Day.

Sivan 7, Pentecost, was Monday, May 29, 30 AD. Saturn was in Gemini. It looks like the Bride of Christ was born on Earth when Saturn was in Gemini and will be born into a new world when Saturn is in Gemini.

Eph. 2:6 says, "And hath raised us up together, and made us sit together in heavenly places in Christ Jesus". The sign of Gemini is where the Bride and Bridegroom "sit together in heavenly places." They are sitting on the ecliptic, and Saturn travels along the ecliptic. Since I think Saturn is Heaven, it seems very natural for it to be in Gemini when the Bride and Bridegroom arrive in Heaven. At the Rapture, I think we will meet Christ in the clouds, then head for Saturn in Gemini.

...I'm glad I took off IE 6 and then downloaded it and two service packs again from Microsoft. That did me a lot of good in ease of operation. It didn't make my password work to upload to my main site though. I'll keep uploading the new Pro and Cons on my Earthlink site.

Thanks again for The Sky Six. I like it a lot already, and have just begun to explore its capabilities. The User Guide is 250 pages. I'm barely into Getting Started and am delighted. It's neat to be able to click on anything in the sky and have the Object Information dialog box pop up. If the time is set to my computer's time, the sky chart will advance automatically as the minutes tick by.

Actually, the June 13/14 Pentecost date for the Rapture is my opinion, not my prediction.

The ending year for the Tribulation must be a Jewish Leap Year, because there are 7 months (Eze. 39:12,13) between the Wrath of God on the Feast of Trumpets and the Second Advent on the following Nisan 1, the first day of both the Regnal and Sacred Years. That fits Christ, since he is both King and High Priest.

The Jewish 5771 (2010/2011) is a Leap Year; 5772 (2011/2012) is not. The year 5774 (2013/2014) is the next Leap Year after 5771.

On both Tishri 1 (9-9-2010) and on the following Nisan 1, Saturn will be in Virgo. When I went to 9-9-2010 in The Sky, there was the biggest blackest Moon I could imagine filling the screen top to bottom. That's a wonderful way to depict the Day of Darkness, the Day of Destruction, the Day of God's Wrath. Does that black Moon depict the dark of the Moon, the conjunction? I opened the Moon Phase box, but because of my defective video card and the black background, I can't see a thing. It's solid black. Agape

Incoming email

I've just been reminded that 1998 means "season of Noah."

That "season" seems to have begun with 7 years, starting in 1998, as Noah was told that it would begin to rain in 7 days. It's like the 7 good years that preceded the 7 bad years when Joseph was in Egypt. Since there is a countdown, it seems all the more likely that this up-coming Pentecost will be the day of the Rapture. I sure hope it is.

Incoming email, Comments on Alignments in Sep 2010

> > On both Tishri 1 (9-9-2010) and on the following Nisan 1, Saturn will be in Virgo. When I went to 9-9-2010 in The Sky, there was the biggest blackest Moon I could imagine filling the screen top to bottom. That's a wonderful way to depict the Day of Darkness, the Day of Destruction, the Day of God's Wrath.

Your zoomed in too close, thats why the Moon is filling the screen. Keep your sky image size zoomed out so you can see the full sky from horizon to horizon unless there is a specific reason your looking for close up details in a small area of sky.

> > Does that black Moon depict the dark of the Moon, the conjuction?

Yes, new Moon occurs on 9/8/2010 at 12:31 in Jerusalem.

> >I opened the Moon Phase box, but because of my defective video card and the black background, I can't see a thing. It's solid black.

You might check around your area for a local "computer club", they may be able to render some technical help and find you a used video card for little cost and get it installed and checked out.

My take on the sky scene and time of Sep. 8-11, 2010 is that we are still in the last 2 years of the second half of the tribulation period so these are certainly the worst of years for remaining Jews, IS and persecuted converted Christians who were not removed during the rapture time. It just happens that the end of Ramadan (Eid al-Fitr) coincides with Rosh Hashanah during 9/9-10/2010, Mars (war) is near Spica (mid-body) in Virgo but Saturn (perhaps heaven/protection) is in the head of Virgo, and the Sun is back at that ominous position of "Zep-Tepi", Egyptian "first point of time" on 9/11 just as it was on 9/11/2001 when the terrorists hit NY/WashDC. I see this as especially troubled days as depicted in Rev.; but, not the early end of the tribulation yet. I just don't think it will be shortened by that much time.
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Certainly possible that Pope John Paul could continue on for many years; but, my feeling is he will pass on or be replaced this year. We will see.

My reply

> > I see this as especially troubled days as depicted in Rev.; but, not the early end of the tribulation yet. I just don't think it will be shortened by that much time.

Maybe the Tribulation runs for 7 more months, till Christ returns on the following Nisan 1, 5768 (April 5, 2011). Seven years from next Pentecost, Sivan 7, 5765, would be Sivan 7, 5772. That way the shortening would be from Nisan 1 to Sivan 7. That's not much time, just 66 days. It would be all of Nisan (30 days), all of Iyar (29 days), and 7 days of Sivan.

To me, the seven months (Isa. 39:12,13) when Israel buries the dead to cleanse the land for Christ's glorious return make it necessary that the final year be a Leap Year with 13 months. The Hebrew 5771 ( 2010/2011) is a Leap Year; 5772 (2011/2012) is not.

> > Saturn (perhaps heaven/protection)

Saturn (Shabbatai) means rest, just as Shabbat does. Shabbat is the 7th day. Shabbatai is the 7th lamp on the candlestick. The Western light represented the Sun. That's why it was to always be kept lit. Here are the 7 lamps: (1) Sun, (2) Mercury, (3) Venus, (4) Earth, (5) Mars, (6) Jupiter and (7) Saturn. Earth is in the center. Viewed from Earth, Saturn is the third heaven.

In II Cor. 12:2-4, Paul said, "I knew a man in Christ (Paul himself, he just didn't want to boast, v. 6) above fourteen years ago, (whether in the body, I cannot tell; or whether out of the body, I cannot tell: God knoweth;) such an one caught up to the third heaven....How that he was caught up (harpazo, as in I Thess. 4:16,17) into PARADISE". Here, it is obvious that "harpazo" means being caught up to the third Heaven. If that is the meaning here, I think it is the meaning in I Thess. 4:16,17. Therefore, I think we will be caught up to Saturn.

Rev. 2:7 says, "He that hath an ear, let him hear what the Spirit saith unto the churches; To him that overcometh will I give to eat of the tree of life, which is in the midst of the PARADISE of God." Paradise is on the 3rd heaven, Saturn.

How about the Cassini mission finding out that Saturn has blue skies in the northern hemisphere? That was a shock. They expected them to be yellow. Agape


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