Pro and Con 1191

Posted 3-31-05

Incoming e-mail, Re: Scoffers on May 5, 2005, 9:41:02 PM +/- 2 seconds Universal Time

From: Ted Porter

This is to fellow watchers for the return of the Prince of Peace for His bride, (who is making herself ready). If you are not a fellow watcher please disregard this email.

Knowing this first, that there shall come in the last days scoffers, walking after their own lusts, And saying, Where is the promise of his coming? for since the fathers fell asleep, all things continue as they were from the beginning of the creation. II Peter 3:3-4

We are indeed in the last days. Most people now seem to be motivated by their own lusts instead of any desire to know God by knowing His Word. They would much rather engage in drugs including alcohol and tobacco, gambling, pornography, sex outside of marriage, and every other vice imaginable.

They are not content in just walking in their own lusts but want to drag everyone else around them down with them, even making fun of those that are watching for His coming.

Sadly, many scoffers also profess to be Christians. Will God take them kicking and screaming in a Rapture they are not only not watching for, but one they are making fun of those who do? Of course not. God does not force anyone into Paradise or Heaven against their belief system or against their will.

Watch therefore: for ye know not what hour your Lord doth come. Matthew 24:42

But the scoffers are loud, numerous, and repetitive saying, "Where is the promise of his coming?" They sincerely believe one of the following:

1. He is not coming back so it is foolhardy to watch for him.
2. He is coming back, but no one will be able to watch the signs promised by God and with the help of the Holy Spirit figure out when He is most likely to return, so it is foolhardy to watch for him.

Sadly, the scoffers are like germs. They are everywhere. However, they don't do much damage as long as they stay outside the body of Christ. However, once they get inside the body they can spread throughout the body, weakening and distracting the whole body of Christ.

Wherefore gird up the loins of your mind, be sober, and hope to the end for the grace that is to be brought unto you at the revelation of Jesus Christ; I Peter 1:13

What about scoffers that would want to label all of us that watch as prophets, or in their mind, false prophets, when we watch a date that passes? But many of us are no more prophets, nor claim to be, than the local weatherman looking at the signs and coming up with a forecast. We are like watchmen in a tower who call out to those inside the fortress. We watch the signs instead of making claims to direct revelations from God. In fact those that do claim direct revelations from God of when He is returning for His bride should be suspect for two reasons. The first, even though scripture records:

Surely the Lord GOD will do nothing, but he revealeth his secret unto his servants the prophets. Amos 3:7

It also records over and over God's command for all of us to watch for His return. Why watch if God is going to directly reveal the time?

The second reason is direct revelation has no signs to watch. With signs, the evidence can be made available for others to see. Then, based on the evidence, they have the chance to reach the same conclusions. This is just like a scientist that can make available his evidence and conclusions for predicting a future solar eclipse, equinox, or return of a comet.

Does this mean that God is then absent from being involved in the process? Heaven forbid, any more than He was absent from being involved in Sir Isaac Newton's or Albert Einstein's discoveries, to which they both credited their Creator.

And they shall fall by the edge of the sword, and shall be led away captive into all nations: and Jerusalem shall be trodden down of the Gentiles, until the times of the Gentiles be fulfilled. Luke 21:24

Those that are watching have seen at least a partial fulfillment of the times of the Gentiles as of Jerusalem Unification Day, June 7, 1967, (Iyar 28, 5727). What follows directly in scripture is:

And there shall be signs in the sun, and in the moon, and in the stars; and upon the earth distress of nations, with perplexity; the sea and the waves roaring; Luke 21:25

Rapture = Ascension = Power = 555 The simplicity factor in interpreting the many prophecies in the Bible is the more simple the explanation the more chances are that this is the correct explanation. The removing of the saints is popularly called "the rapture" from the latin derivation of the greek word "apostasia". But watchers already know all this. They also know that the rapture is when the Bride of Christ ascends into heaven and Jesus Christ meets us in the air. And that the only Christian Holy day commemorating Christ's ascension and specifically pointing to our future ascension is Ascension Day. The next Ascension Day is May 5, 2005, as marked on many calendars for even non-believers to see.

Which also said, Ye men of Galilee, why stand ye gazing up into heaven? this same Jesus, which is taken up from you into heaven, shall so come in like manner as ye have seen him go into heaven. Acts 1:11

But why 2005? I personally started more closely watching May 5, 2005 soon after May 5, 2000. There was a sign on that date involving the sun, and the moon, and the stars as specified in Luke 21:25 above, (planets are among the brightest of the stars as they are the closest heavenly bodies. Sometimes they are referred to as wandering stars as they "wander" against the backdrop of the other stars that make up the constellations.)

On May 5, 2000 the planets Mercury, Venus, Earth, Mars, Jupiter, and Saturn will be more or less positioned in a line with the Sun. Additionally, the Moon will be almost lined up between the Earth and Sun.*

Note 5 planets as seen from Earth, on 5/5/00, hence 555. This seemed to point to 5 years to the date from then, or 5/5/5. All 5 visible planets were then situated in the constellation Taurus. From the God given "gospel in the stars" (see Joseph Seiss's book and others), Taurus stands for the Lord coming in great Power as in the Rapture/Ascension. The next constellation is Gemini which is of "two human figures closely united, and seated in endeared affection" as in the uniting of the Bridegroom and the Bride, the Body of Christ directly following the Rapture/Ascension.

The attempts of satan to blot out all that is Holy and replace it with the corrupt can well be seen in that many Christians have abandoned watching the signs in the skies. This is despite the Gospels stating they will be signs attesting to His second coming just as they attested to His first coming as observed by the Maji. The attempt of satan was made to blot out all male babies before the birth of the redeemer of Israel at the hands of the Egyptians (Moses) and again at the birth of the redeemer of all mankind at the hands of sin (Jesus).

So to pinpoint the exact time to watch for our rapture/ascension we should only need to calculate the time of the exact middle of the sign of our Lord coming in great Power, the constellation Taurus.

Note that the number "5" as used throughout the Bible represents Grace, (see 'The Arithmetic of God", penned by Don Kistler, and other books). This number is repeated numerous times in the date May, 5, 2005. Note the 5th month of the year, the 5th day of the month, and the 5th year since 2000. Also note that this date falls on Thursday, the 5th day of the week. God has been communicating in what appears like a world-wide phenomena according to reports with people seeing the number 555. This may lead some to watch 5/5/05 although satan is again seen prominently ready to give alternative explanations for this phenomena. And will assuredly try to blot out any Christian explanation for the rapture as well, when it take place.

Bonnie Gaunt has been credited with calculating and noting the number of the word "power" being 555. But regardless, one can come to the conclusion that 555 = power = ascension = rapture without this knowledge. For example, one can just work backward from knowing 666 = antichrist = great tribulation to reach the rapture event that happens before, i.e. 555. However, one should be careful in attaching meaning in calculating the number of all names. The Bible states:

The burden of Damascus. Behold, Damascus is taken away from being a city, and it shall be a ruinous heap. Isaiah 17:1

Just because "Damascus" calculates out to 444 does not mean it will become a "ruinous heap" before the rapture any more than it means it will happen on the date 4/4. Besides, we are commanded only to watch for His coming in Power in the Rapture. And the resurrection of the dead in Christ to be followed by the ascension of all that are alive in Christ will be the most powerful event yet in all of human history.

In the resurrection therefore, when they shall rise, whose wife shall she be of them? for the seven had her to wife. And Jesus answering said unto them, Do ye not therefore err, because ye know not the scriptures, neither the power of God? Mark 12:23-24

For the Lord himself shall descend from heaven with a shout, with the voice of the archangel, and with the trump of God: and the dead in Christ shall rise first: Then we which are alive and remain shall be caught up together with them in the clouds, to meet the Lord in the air: and so shall we ever be with the Lord. I Thessalonians 4:16-17

Mid-Spring Rapture
Tom Gaston has found the words "Spring" and "Rapture" associated with each other in the Bible. Also, Spring signifies new birth. The "Song of Solomon" can be taken as a being about the Bride of Christ and taking place in the Spring. If God was going to bury signs of His coming with the words SPRING RAPTURE then it would make sense that He would be coming in the exact MIDDLE of Spring. It so turns out that the exact middle of Spring is also the exact middle of the sign of Taurus the Bull.

The date to watch for the rapture can now be calculated from the exact start of Spring and the exact start of Summer. A source has the start of Spring being 3/20/05, 12 hrs, 34 min, and 48 seconds and the start of Summer being 6/21/05, 6 hrs, 47 min, and 16 seconds Universal Time (Greenwich). Since Jerusalem time is exactly 2 hours ahead of Universal Time (ignoring Daylight Saving Time) one adds two hours to each time. Since Jerusalem observes Daylight Saving Time one needs to add an hour after calculating any date after April 7th of 2005.

The exact middle of Spring and of Taurus falls on 5/5/05, 23 hrs, 41 min, and 2 seconds without Daylight Saving Time as observed in Jerusalem and on 5/6/05 0 hrs, 41 min and 2 seconds with Daylight Saving Time.

Since the equinox and solstice times used inherently cannot have an accuracy greater than a half a second either direction, there is a second added for inaccuracy. And since solar time can differ from Universal Time by 0.9 seconds before a second is added for adjustment, another second should be added for this inaccuracy, hence the +/- 2 seconds.

3/20/2005 12:34:48 UT - Spring Equinox - 7.0 Earthquake Japan 5.5 miles below Sea Level 4/4/2005 23:36:53 UT – Exact Middle Aries

4/20/2005 10:38:57 UT – End Aries, Start Taurus

5/5/2005 21:41:02 UT – Exact Middle of Spring, Exact Middle of Taurus

5/21/2005 8:43:07 UT – End Taurus, Start Gemini

6/5/2005 19:45:11 UT – Exact Middle Gemini

6/21/2005 6:47:16 UT - Summer Solstice, End Gemini

The Hour of the Rapture

1. And he cometh unto the disciples, and findeth them asleep, and saith unto Peter, What, could ye not watch with me one hour? Matthew 26:40

2. And he cometh, and findeth them sleeping, and saith unto Peter, Simon, sleepest thou? couldest not thou watch one hour? Mark 14:37

Through the preponderance of the evidence it appears that: 1. The hour referred to above was the midnight hour in Jerusalem. 2. It was the midnight hour that the death Angel visited the Egyptians and "passed over" the Israelites. 3. It was the midnight hour that Jesus was buried in the grave, the anniversary of the original "Passover". 4. It was the midnight hour that Jesus rose from the grave, on First-Fruits. 5. It will be the midnight hour in Jerusalem that Jesus returns as a thief in the night for His Bride, the wise virgins, which is referred to as the Rapture.

There are exactly 5 times that the word "watch" and the word "hour" appear together in the same Bible verse. The other 3 not shown above, refer to the rapture.

3. Watch therefore: for ye know not what hour your Lord doth come. Matthew 24:42

4. Watch therefore, for ye know neither the day nor the hour wherein the Son of man cometh. Matthew 25:13

5. Remember therefore how thou hast received and heard, and hold fast, and repent. If therefore thou shalt not watch, I will come on thee as a thief, and thou shalt not know what hour I will come upon thee. Revelation 3:3

Much more corroborating evidence in the Bible exists including most notably the story of the 10 virgins, which is an allegory for the rapture and is found in Matthew 25.

Then shall the kingdom of heaven be likened unto ten virgins, which took their lamps, and went forth to meet the bridegroom. And five of them were wise, and five were foolish. They that were foolish took their lamps, and took no oil with them: But the wise took oil in their vessels with their lamps. While the bridegroom tarried, they all slumbered and slept. And at midnight there was a cry made, Behold, the bridegroom cometh; go ye out to meet him. Then all those virgins arose, and trimmed their lamps. And the foolish said unto the wise, Give us of your oil; for our lamps are gone out. But the wise answered, saying, Not so; lest there be not enough for us and you: but go ye rather to them that sell, and buy for yourselves. And while they went to buy, the bridegroom came; and they that were ready went in with him to the marriage: and the door was shut. Afterward came also the other virgins, saying, Lord, Lord, open to us. But he answered and said, Verily I say unto you, I know you not. Watch therefore, for ye know neither the day nor the hour wherein the Son of man cometh. Matthew 25:1-13

So it was shortly after midnight that the bridegroom, representing the Son of man, came. The cry went out at midnight and after the virgins had trimmed their lamps but before the 5 foolish virgins could knock on doors and get those that sell to hurriedly sell them oil at whatever price, the bridegroom came and it was too late for the 5 foolish virgins.

So how long would it have taken the 5 foolish virgins to wake up, trim their lamps, realize they were out of oil, and try and buy oil at that late hour? If the houses of the sellers were close, most likely more than 5 minutes but possibly less than 10 minutes.

Now take the next Ascension day which is May 5, 2005, (5/5/05). When is the exact middle of the night in Jerusalem? Mid-night is exactly between sunset and sunrise. Sunset on 5/5/05 in Jerusalem will be at 6:22 PM not observing DST and 7:22 PM observing DST. Sunrise on 5/6/05 in Jerusalem will be at 4:49 AM not observing DST and 5:49 AM observing DST. Exactly half way in between is 11: 36 PM on 5/5/05 not observing DST and 12:36 AM on 5/6/05 observing DST. This is just 5 minutes before the 11:41 PM (without DST) and 12:41 AM (with DST) that the exact middle of Spring and Taurus calculated out to be in Jerusalem. This is exactly when we would except.

And this know, that if the goodman of the house had known what hour the thief would come, he would have watched, and not have suffered his house to be broken through. Luke 12:39

The times that we should watch throughout the world for the exact middle of Spring and Taurus are given in the table below:

UT Reference
Name
Places
Time w/o DST
Time with DST

UT/GMT
WET: Western European
London, England
5/5/2005 9:41 PM
5/5/2005 10:41 PM

UT+1 hr
CET: Central European
Paris, France
5/5/2005 10:41 PM
5/5/2005 11:41 PM

UT+2 hrs
EET: Eastern European
Jerusalem, Israel
5/5/2005 11:41 PM
5/6/2005 12:41 AM

UT+3 hrs
BT: Baghdad
Moscow, Russia
5/6/2005 12:41 AM
5/6/2005 1:41 AM

UT+3.5 hrs
Tehran, Iran
5/6/2005 1:11 AM
5/6/2005 2:11 AM

UT+4 hrs
Abu Dhabi, UAE
5/6/2005 1:41 AM
5/6/2005 2:41 AM

UT+4.5 hrs
Afghanistan
5/6/2005 2:11 AM
5/6/2005 3:11 AM

UT+5.5 hrs
India
5/6/2005 3:11 AM
5/6/2005 4:11 AM

UT+6.5 hrs
Cocos Islands
5/6/2005 4:11 AM
5/6/2005 5:11 AM

UT+8 hrs
CCT: China Coast

5/6/2005 5:41 AM
5/6/2005 6:41 AM

UT+9 hrs
JST: Japan Standard,

5/6/2005 6:41 AM
5/6/2005 7:41 AM

UT+9.5 hrs
Australia Central Standard

5/6/2005 7:11 AM
5/6/2005 8:11 AM

UT+10 hrs
GST: Guam Standard

5/6/2005 7:41 AM
5/6/2005 8:41 AM

UT+10.5
Lord Howe Island
5/6/2005 8:11 AM
5/6/2005 9:11 AM

UT+11 hrs
5/6/2005 8:41 AM
5/6/2005 9:41 AM

UT+11.5 hrs
Norfolk Island
5/6/2005 9:11 AM
5/6/2005 10:11 AM

UT+12 hrs
International Date Line
Marshall Islands
5/6/2005 9:41 AM
5/6/2005 10:41 AM

UT-1 hrs
WAT: West Africa
Cape Verde Islands
5/5/2005 8:41 PM
5/5/2005 9:41 PM

UT-2 hrs
AT: Azores

5/5/2005 7:41 PM
5/5/2005 8:41 PM

UT-3 hrs

Brasilia, Brazil
5/5/2005 6:41 PM
5/5/2005 7:41 PM

UT-3.5 hrs
Newfoundland
5/5/2005 6:11 PM
5/5/2005 7:11 PM

UT-4 hrs
AST: Atlantic Standard
Caracas
5/5/2005 5:41 PM
5/5/2005 6:41 PM

UT-5 hrs
EST: Eastern Standard
New York, NY
5/5/2005 4:41 PM
5/5/2005 5:41 PM

UT-6 hrs
CST: Central Standard
Dallas, TX
5/5/2005 3:41 PM
5/5/2005 4:41 PM

UT-7 hrs
MST: Mountain Standard
Denver, CO
5/5/2005 2:41 PM
5/5/2005 3:41 PM

UT-8 hrs
PST: Pacific Standard
Seattle, WA
5/5/2005 1:41 PM
5/5/2005 2:41 PM

UT-9 hrs
YST: Yukon Standard.

5/5/2005 12:41 PM
5/5/2005 1:41 PM

UT-10 hrs
AHST: Alaska-Hawaii Standard

5/5/2005 11:41 AM
5/5/2005 12:41 PM

UT-11 hrs
NT: Nome.

5/5/2005 10:41 AM
5/5/2005 11:41 AM

*Other known signs pointing to 5/5/05 and 2005 including 5/5/2002 have not been included in this email because of lack of room. Many are however included in a book published in 2004 called, "Passion, Power and Glory - Watching for the Return of the Prince of Peace" available free online at - http://www.endofage.com/ppgview1.html

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Shalom! Ted Porter

My reply

> > the next Ascension day which is May 5, 2005, (5/5/05).

Ascension Day could be the day of the Rapture. All the things in Song of Solomon 2:10-14 and Isa. 18: 3-5 can apply to Ascension Day as well as Pentecost.

I just got a flash. During his Olivet Discourse, Jesus said, "of that day and hour knoweth no man, no, not the angels of heaven, but my Father only" (Mt. 24:36). There is one day celebrated now that would have been utterly impossible for any man to know during Passion Week -- Ascension Day. Until Jesus ascended, no one knew when that would be.

Acts 1:3,9-11 says that Jesus "shewed himself alive after his passion by many infallible proofs, being seen of them FORTY DAYS...And when he had spoken these things, while they beheld, he was taken up; and a cloud received him out of their sight. And while they looked stedfastly toward heaven as he went up, behold, two men (probably Moses and Elijah) stood by them in white apparel; Which also said, Ye men of Galilee, why stand ye gazing up into heaven? this same Jesus, which is taken up from you into heaven, shall so come in like manner as ye have seen him go into heaven." They saw him go up on the 40th day.

In Hos. 6:3, we see that Jesus will come as the rain. He came the first time as the former rain (Tishri 1) and will come at the Second Advent as the latter rain (Nisan 1). Maybe he will also come at the Rapture as the rain of Noah's day. In Mt. 24:37, Jesus indicated that the Rapture would be as the days of Noah. The number 40 is associated with the Ark floating Noah, his sons and all their wives, upward. Gen. 7:17 says, "And the flood was FORTY DAYS upon the earth, and the waters increased, and BARE UP THE ARK, AND IT WAS LIFT UP ABOVE THE EARTH." That 40 days ties in with Ascension Day.

It looks like Moses will come down at the Rapture. He is one of the two witnesses who will prophesy during the first half of the Tribulation. Moses was up on Mt. Sinai (which represented Heaven, Saturn, from the Sanskrit Sani, Saturn) 40 days and nights, then he returned.

Since Jesus, the Head of the Body of Christ, ascended on the 40th day, it seems very natural for him to come back in the air and shout "Come up hither" with his trumpet voice on the 40th day.

Gen 25:20 tells us that "Isaac (a type of Christ) was forty years old when he took Rebekah (type of the Bride of Christ) to wife."

It would also be reasonable for the new group, the Church, to be given their own special day, separate from the 7 feasts that belong to Israel.

Man did not know the day or hour before Ascension Day, but Mark 13:28-35 may indicate that we could know the day, and Rev. 3:3 indicates that we could know the hour.

Mark 13:28-37 says, "Now learn a parable of the fig tree; When her branch (modern Israel) is yet tender (young, i.e., no more than 19), and putteth forth leaves (Sinai, Gaza Strip, Golan Heights, and West Bank in the Six-Day War of 1967, when she was 19), ye know that summer is near (The war started June 5, and summer began June 21): So ye in like manner, when ye shall see these things come to pass, know that it (the Rapture) is nigh, even at the doors (the 'open door' of Rev. 3:8 and 4:1). Verily I say unto you, that this generation shall not pass, till all these things be done. Heaven and earth shall pass away: but my words shall not pass away. But of that day and that hour knoweth no man, no, not the angels which are in heaven, neither the Son, but the Father. Take ye heed, watch and pray: for ye know not when the time is. For the Son of man is as a man (Jesus) taking a far journey (to Heaven), who left his house, and gave authority to his servants, and to every man his work, and commanded the PORTER to watch. Watch ye therefore: for ye know not when the master of the house cometh, at even (6 PM), or at midnight, or at the cockcrowing (3 PM), or in the morning (6 AM): Lest coming suddenly he find you sleeping. And what I say unto you I say unto all, Watch." It looks like the day may be known to watchers, for what is not known there is the time of day.

Rev. 3:3 says, "Remember therefore how thou hast received and heard, and hold fast, and repent. If therefore thou shalt not watch, I will come on thee as a thief, and thou shalt not know WHAT HOUR I will come upon thee." Turn it around, doesn't it mean that if we do watch, he will not come on us as a thief, and we shall know what hour he will come?

We are watching for Jesus to come, and "this same Jesus, which is taken up from you into heaven SHALL SO COME IN LIKE MANNER as ye have seen him go into heaven" (Acts 1:11). That may mean that he will come down to the clouds on the day that he went up to the clouds, Ascension Day. Maybe that is also our Ascension Day.

However, I count June 4 as Ascension Day. According to Josephus, the Sun should be in Aries on Passover (Ant. III. X. 5). For this reason, and so as to not upset the accuracy of the Hebrew Calendar in the long run, I'm going by the accepted Hebrew Calendar for this year. The Sun will be in Aries on Passover. I think the countdown of the Omer starts on the morrow after Firstfruits, i.e., Nisan 17 (April 26). The 40th day falls on Saturday, Iyar 26, 5765 (June 4, 2005). The 50th day, Pentecost, falls on Sivan 7 (June 14, 2005).

Whatever the day, come, Lord Jesus.1Pe 1:13 says, "Wherefore gird up the loins of your mind, be sober, and hope to the end for the GRACE that is to be brought unto you at THE REVELATION OF JESUS CHRIST."

THE REVELATION OF JESUS CHRIST is when he is revealed to us at the Rapture. The book of "THE REVELATION OF JESUS CHRIST" is written as if the Rapture is at hand. It is "at hand" in both the first and last chapters (1:3 and 22:10), and after Jesus signs off with, "Surely I come quickly. Amen," John ends the Bible by saying, "The GRACE of our Lord Jesus Christ be with you all. Amen." This GRACE is to be brought to us at the Rapture. That is also when Jesus comes quickly. In Rev. 3:11, Jesus says, "Behold, I come quickly: hold that fast which thou hast, that no man take thy crown."


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