Pro and Con 1208

Posted 5-17-05

WHY DID RUTH GLEAN TO THE END OF TWO HARVESTS, BARLEY AND WHEAT?

By Marilyn Agee


Ruth (type of the Bride of Christ) "kept fast by the maidens of Boaz (type of Christ) to glean unto the END OF BARLEY HARVEST AND OF WHEAT HARVEST" (Ruth 2:23).

Ruth stands for two groups of believers that together make up the Bride of Christ. Both are raptured. The two Raptures are symbolized by the barley AND wheat harvests. The saints that are raptured before the Tribulation are barley. The saints raptured at the end of this age (END OF THE SHORTENED TRIBULATION) are wheat. All of the Pre-Trib Rapture group is in the Bride of Christ group. Only the 144,000 are added to the Bride group at the Pre-Wrath Rapture, because they are "redeemed from the earth...they are virgins...they are without fault before the throne of God" (Rev. 14:3-5).

Boaz "winnoweth BARLEY to night in the threshingfloor" (Ruth 3:2). Ruth, a "virtuous woman" was chosen to wed Boaz (type of Christ as kinsman redeemer) at "MIDNIGHT" (3:8). This represents the Pre-Trib Rapture. However, Ruth was not married until some time had passed. This will be played out in the lives of the Bride of Christ. The Marriage of the Lamb will take place at the end of this age, after the 144,000 Bride saints are caught up to Heaven in the Pre-Wrath Rapture.

It will be the Day of the Lord, Jesus' Coronation Day, day of the Pre-Wrath Rapture, the Marriage of the Lamb, the Judgment Seat of Christ and the Wrath of God.

The Pre-Trib saints are winnowed like barley. The Pre-Wrath saints are threshed with a tribulum (root of the word Tribulation).
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"Harvest: Barley, Wheat, Produce of Vines/Trees"
http://philologos.org/bpr/files/h005b.htm

Collier's Encyclopedia:
...Hundreds of varieties of wheat have been developed and classified variously as hard and soft, bald and bearded, red and white, spring and fall...The plants of fall wheat produce a crown of leaves which protect the roots during the dormant season...To prevent smashed heads and loss of ripe grain, wheat is harvested in the dough stage, or just before it is fully matured....

The New Century Dictionary:
winnow [akin to wind, E. wind]
"I. To free (grain, etc.) from chaff, refuse particles, etc., by means of wind or driven air; fan; blow upon, as the wind does upon the grain in this process; drive or blow (chaff, etc.) away by fanning; fig., to subject to some process of separating or distinguishing... also, (chiefly poetic), to fan or stir (the air) as with the wings in flying; move or flap (the wings) in flying; PURSUE (A COURSE) WITH FLAPPING WINGS IN FLYING."

That reminds me of Ex. 19:4. The Lord said, "I bare you on eagles' wings, and brought you unto myself."

"II. To free grain from chaff by wind or driven air; also, TO FLY WITH FLAPPING WINGS; flutter...."

The threshingfloor was on a prominence outside the city and people would winnow their crops at night because there was a stronger breeze. One of the Targums from the Old Testament states: "behold he is winnowing the barley floor with the wind which is IN THE NIGHT."
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Mt 3:12 says that Christ, "Whose fan is in his hand...will throughly purge his floor, and gather his WHEAT into the garner; but he will burn up the chaff with unquenchable fire."

We are barley, raptured at midnight before the Tribulation starts. The Tribulation saints are wheat, raptured before the asteroids of Rev. 8:8 and 10 impact Earth at noon (Zeph. 2:3-5) on the Day of God's Wrath.

Boaz gave Ruth SIX measures of barley, and "she went into the city" (representing New Jerusalem) to show that at the time of the first Rapture, the Bride of Christ will not yet be complete (a seven).

Hmmm. Seven times 144,000 is 1,008,000--and the Bride saints can be numbered. The great multitude that cannot be numbered in Rev. 7:9 represent the rest of the saints. Six times 144,000 is 864,000. Could that be the number to be caught up in the first Rapture? Strange, the first three numbers of our address are 864.

No wonder Ruth 3:16 says, "And when she came to her mother in law, she said, Who art thou, my daughter?" Naomi knew who Ruth was, but we are supposed to figure out who Ruth (meaning friendship, like the Philadelphians, which means brotherly love) represents. She represents the wise Philadelphian virgins, the Bride of Christ to be caught up at the first time. "Then went Boaz (meaning fleetness) up to the gate" (or door, symbol of the Rapture) (Ruth 4:1).

"Boaz said unto her, At mealtime COME THOU HITHER" (Ruth 2:14). At the Pre-Trib Rapture, Jesus will say, "COME UP HITHER" (Rev. 4:1), and we Philadelphians will go through the "open door" (Rev. 3:8) before the Tribulation (from tribulum, a threshing instrument). No wonder Jesus had no words of condemnation for the Philadelphians.

In Mt. 13:39, Jesus said, "The enemy that sowed them (the tares) is the devil; the harvest (of wheat) is the end of the world (aion, age); and the reapers are the ANGELS."

Mark 13:27 says, "then shall he send his ANGELS, and shall gather together his elect from the four winds, from the uttermost part of the EARTH (the Pre-Wrath Rapture) to the uttermost part of HEAVEN" (those caught up to Heaven previously in the Pre-Trib Rapture).

In Heb 12:23-25, we see that both groups are gathered that day "TO THE GENERAL ASSEMBLY AND CHURCH OF THE FIRSTBORN, WHICH ARE WRITTEN IN HEAVEN, and to God the Judge of all, and to the spirits of just men made perfect (immortal), And to Jesus the mediator of the new covenant, and to the blood of sprinkling, that speaketh better things than that of Abel. See that ye refuse not him that speaketh. For if they escaped not who refused him that spake on earth, much more shall not we escape (not be raptured), if we turn away from him that SPEAKETH FROM HEAVEN" (saying, "Come up hither").

Rev. 4:1 says, "behold, a DOOR was opened in HEAVEN and the FIRST VOICE (i.e., the first trump of God) which I heard was as it were of a TRUMPET talking with me; which said, COME UP HITHER."

Incoming e-mail, Re: rosh hashana rapture

i think rosh hashanah 2005 which is 3/4 october could be the rapture. there are several reasons the feast of rosh is a rapture possibilty every year.

such as this feast is the "last trump" of corinthians 15;51 which is the rapture. also all the previuos feast were fulfilled ex. pentecost were fulfilled at Jesus first coming and the next feast to be fulfilled is rosh.rosh is a symbolic picture of the wedding of Christ to his bride,the church.Jesus made reference to a 4-month period of time before the harvest"say ye,there are four months and then come harvest?" well from pentecost which is the giving of the Holy Spirit to rosh is about 4 months.perhaps thisrepresents the church age whichstarts with the giving of the Holy Spirit and ends at the rapture when the Holy Spirit will be removed? on the 6th of june 1967 the israeli army captured the templemount area,perhaps this was the begining of the finalcountown?according to my study the israelites wandered exactly 14,000 days in the wilderness.well from 6june 1967 to 4 october 2005 is exactly 14,000 days!also there will be a solar eclipse on 3 october 2005 which will cover the entire middle east!also from the resurection of Jesus to the destruction of jeruselum is believed to be 38 years possibly even exactly 14,000 days?

Summary of reasons why Christians expect to see the rapture happen on the Feast of Trumpets / Rosh Hashanna
1. All the Spring Feasts were fulfilled at Christ's first coming, and on the exact day of the feast. All the Fall Feasts picture the second advent, and the Feast of Trumpets is the first of the fall feasts, picturing the rapture.
2. The Feast of Trumpets is when the "last trump" of the rapture of 1 Cor 15 is blown.
3. The Feast of Trumpets is known as the Wedding of the Messiah, and the Church is the Bride of Christ, and the rapture is when the Church is caught up to heaven to be wed with Christ.
4. The Feast of Trumpets happens on the "new moon", which is 29.5 days after the last one, meaning it might occur on the 29th or 30th day, nobody knows for sure. "Of that day or hour no man knows" is an expression referring to this feast, and thus, the rapture.
5. "Of that day or hour no man knows, but my Father only" is an expression used by a groom when asked when his wedding will be. He says this because it is his Father that will tell him when his preparations on the bridal chamber are completed and it is time. Again, the wedding pictures the rapture.
6. The "Open Door" of the rapture in Matt 25, and Rev 3, & Rev 4:1 is a symbol of the Feast of Trumpets. [Ezek 46:1] "Thus says the Lord GOD: The gate of the inner court that faces east shall be shut on the six working days; but on the sabbath day it shall be opened and on the day of the new moon it shall be opened.
7. We are told that the new moon and the Feasts of the Lord are a shadow of things to come in Col 2:16,17. Since the Feast of Trumpets is the only Feast of the Lord that falls on a new moon, we should take particular note.
8. There are seven days of awe in between the Feast of Trumpets and the Day of Atonement. These picture the seven years of tribulation. Atonement pictures Satan being defeated and cast away at the end of tribulaion. If you add the two day Trumpets feast, and the day of atonement, the 7 days of awe are "ten days of tribulation" which might be referred to in Rev. 2:10.
9. In the Jewish Wedding, a marriage takes place over a period of time known as the "bridal week". During the bridal week, the groom and bride have sex in the bridal chamber. At the end of the week, there is a marriage supper. Compare Judges 14, Rev. 19, and Gen. Genesis 29:22-28 This bridal week will be the tribulation week on earth, while the bride of Christ is in heaven.
10. In the Jewish Wedding, the groom comes for his bride "like a thief in the night" to take (size / rapture) her away and into the bridal chamber for the bridal week at his father's house.
11. The Feast of Trumpets is also known as the coronation of the Messiah, when he will start reigning as king, thus the beginning of the "Day of the Lord", which includes the tribulation.
12. It is also time for the bema judgment, or the judgement of the works of the righteous, and judgement must begin at the house of the Lord. thanks

My reply

Thank you for sending me this good news. You just put the icing on the cake.

You quoted Ezek 46:1: "Thus says the Lord GOD: The gate (DOOR, symbol of a Rapture, Rev. 3:8; 4:1) of the inner court that faces east shall be shut on the six working days; but on THE SABBATH DAY it shall be opened and on THE DAY OF THE NEW MOON it shall be opened."

Wow! That's good. There are two Raptures. I think the Pre-Trib Rapture will be on Saturday ("THE SABBATH DAY"), Iyar 26, 5765 (June 4, 2005). I think the Pre-Wrath Rapture will be on Tishri 1, 5771 (Sept. 9, 2010) ("THE DAY OF THE NEW MOON").

Job 8:8-10 says, "enquire, I pray thee, of the former age, and prepare thyself to the search of their fathers: (For we are but of yesterday, and know nothing, because our days upon earth are a shadow:) Shall not they teach thee, and tell thee, and utter words out of their heart?"

Job 11:6 says, "the secrets of wisdom...they are DOUBLE to that which is!

> > the feast of rosh is a rapture possibilty every year. such as this feast is the "last trump" of corinthians 15;51 which is the rapture.

That's true, but it applies to the second Rapture. I Thess. 4:13-18 applies to the first Rapture.

> > Jesus made reference to a 4-month period of time before the harvest" say ye, there are four months and then come harvest?"

If the Pre-Trib Rapture is on Ascension Day, Iyar 26, the four months will be Sivan, Tamuz, Av and Elul. Then comes the harvest of Tishri 1.

> > rosh is a symbolic picture of the wedding of Christ to his bride

I agree. I expect the Marriage of the Lamb to take place in Heaven on Tishri 1, 5771 (Sept. 9, 2010). In the meantime, the Bride will be exploring her new home. The reason for the delay, the 144,000 are to be added to the Bride group at the 2nd Rapture, "for they are virgins....without fault before the throne of God" (Rev. 14:4,5).

> > on the 6thof june 1967 the israeli army captured the templemount area, perhaps this was the begining of the final countown?

Yes. The Six-Day War started June 5. That was Iyar 26. Add 38 years and you have Iyar 26, 5765 (June 4, 2005) Ascension Day.

> > from the resurection of Jesus to the destruction of jeruselum is believed to be 38 years

That was 40 years, 30 to 70 AD. Eze. 4:6 says, "thou shalt bear the iniquity of the house of Judah forty days...each day for a year."

The 38 years is in John 5:5. Jesus healed the man that had an infirmity 38 years on the SABBATH (v. 9). This was just after Jesus said in John 4:35, "Say not ye, There are yet four months, and then cometh harvest? behold, I say unto you, Lift up your eyes, and look on the fields; for they are white already to harvest." I think there are 4 months between the months of the 2 Raptures, Sivan, Tamuz, Av, and Elul.

> > We are told that the new moon and the Feasts of the Lord are a shadow of things to come in Col 2:16,17. Since the Feast of Trumpets is the only Feast of the Lord that falls on a new moon, we should take particular note.

Yes. I expect the 2nd Rapture on the Feast of Trumpets.

> > If you add the two day Trumpets feast, and the day of atonement, the 7 days of awe are "ten days of tribulation" which might be referred to in Rev. 2:10.

I just saw the news that probably fulfills Rev. 2:10.
AMERICAN CHRISTIANS INTERROGATED FOR 10 DAYS RELEASED FROM MALAYSIAN JAIL
By Michael Ireland, 5-16-05
http://www.assistnews.net/Stories/s05050066.htm

> > This bridal week will be the tribulation week on earth, while the bride of Christ is in heaven.

I agree.

> > The Feast of Trumpets is also known as the coronation of the Messiah, when he will start reigning as king, thus the beginning of the "Day of the Lord", which includes the tribulation.

I agree with all except "which includes the tribulation." Mal. 4:5 says, "Behold, I will send you Elijah the prophet BEFORE the coming of the great and dreadful day of the LORD." Elijah is one of the two witnesses of Rev. 11. Therefore, the Tribulation is not part of the Day of the Lord. I think the Day of the Lord will start on Tishri 1, 5771 (Sept. 9, 2010).

> > It is also time for the bema judgment, or the judgement of the works of the righteous, and judgement must begin at the house of the Lord.

I agree that the Judgment Seat of Christ will follow his Coronation on that Feast of Trumpets. The Marriage of the Lamb is on that same day. Agape

HERE'S A FULFILLMENT. Rev 2:10,11, "the devil shall cast some of you into prison, that ye may be tried; and ye shall have tribulation TEN DAYS: be thou faithful unto death, and I will give thee a crown of life. He that hath an ear, let him hear what the Spirit saith unto the churches" (THAT THE RAPTURE IS NEAR?).

AMERICAN CHRISTIANS INTERROGATED FOR 10 DAYS RELEASED FROM MALAYSIAN JAIL
By Michael Ireland, 5-16-05
http://www.assistnews.net/Stories/s05050066.htm

BARTLESVILLE, OKLAHOMA (ANS) -- Two Americans have been set free after 10 days in jail and cleared of charges against them in Malaysia.

Just prior to being arrested and imprisoned for 10 days, Rick Rupert and a friend, Zach Harris, were at Putra Jaya, Malaysia’s capital, where they talked with some of the local people, the majority of which were Malays.

According to Strategic World Impact (SWI), the local people were curious about the Americans, especially because one of them could speak their language.

“We talked about many things with them, including what is most important to us -- knowing God and having a tangible, real relationship with Him,” Rupert said after his release from a Malaysian jail.

SWI says Malaysia’s population is divided into four ethnic groups: Malay, Chinese, Indian and Indigenous groups. By law, Malays are required to be Muslim and Muslim Malays are not allowed to change religious affiliation. Other ethnic groups are largely free to follow any religion.

“We firmly believe that no one should be prohibited from hearing the message of the Bible and so we were glad to answer any questions they had,” Rupert said.

He and Harris handed out gospels of Luke and John to all who wanted one. “We believe this message we were sharing with them is far more important than our freedom and even our lives,” Rupert explained.

According to Rupert, the men were arrested outside of a restaurant an hour later.

“We considered it a privilege to be able to share with [the police] the same message of hope that had gotten us arrested in the first place,” Rupert said.

This initial sharing set the groundwork for many opportunities to share the Gospel with fellow prisoners, guards and special branches of law enforcement who were interrogating them -- all were interested in what Rupert and Harris had to say, because they had never been allowed to hear the message before.

Rupert added that lawyers representing the men told them that if the charges had not been dropped, their case would have gone all the way to the highest court. If they won in the highest court, it would have set a precedent for all Christian Malaysians to be able to talk about their faith with anyone, including Malay Malaysians. If they lost, they would have been sentenced for up to five years in prison....

Meaning of Rev. 13:18's 666

The Survival of the Remnant, By David H. Lewis
http://hiddenmysteries.com/xcart/product.php?productid=16870

If you have read the book, "The Days Before Tomorrow" by this author, you already know that the number six refers to the Roman numeral VI. Its meaning....VI VI VI in Latin refers to Vini, Vidi, Vinci! The word Vini has since been respelled Veni. These three words carry a meaning of: "I came, I saw, I conquered!" And the abbreviation of Vini, Vidi, Vinci, is VI VI VI or 666, which appears on the Pope's Babylonian hat band (across his forehead) as a testimony that he is the present Emperor of Rome in a direct line from Julius Caesar, who was also a Pope before the birth of Jesus...from 100 B.C. to 44 B.C.
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666
http://bibleprophecy.net/666.htm

One of the Pope's titles is "Vicarius Filii Dei"-- The Vicar of the Son of the God.* This a blasphemous title. Christ does not need a vicar, and Heaven has not so designated any man. This title, "Vicarius Filii Dei" is etched in the Papal mitre which every pope wears. The numerical equivalent of this Latin title, using Roman numerals known to most school children, is 666...

Letter - Roman numeral value V -- 5
I -- 1
C -- 100
A
R
I -- 1
U -- 5 (I took Latin in high school and was taught that "U" and "V" are equivalent)
S

F
I -- 1
L -- 50
I -- 1
I -- 1

D -- 500
E
I -- 1

TOTAL -- 666
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The Meaning of 666
http://www.pickle-publishing.com/papers/666.htm

...The letters inscribed in the Pope's mitre are these: Vicarius Filii Dei, which is the Latin for the Vicar of the Son of God....
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666, The Number of the Beast
http://www.aloha.net/%7Emikesch/666.htm

The ancient Greek word for "the Latin speaking man" is LATEINOS L = 30 lambda
A = 1 alpha
T = 300 tau
E = 5 epsilon
I = 10 iota
N = 50 nu
O = 70 omicron
S = 200 sigma
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666

ROMIITH
means the Roman Kingdom
R = 200 resh
O = 6 waw (vav)
M = 40 mem
I = 10 yod
I = 10 yod
TH = 400 taw
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666

ROMITI
means the Roman Man
R = 200 resh
O = 6 waw (vav)
M = 40 mem
I = 10 yod
T = 400 taw
I = 10 yod
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666

Incoming email, Re: The Day to Come

Marilyn, I have been following end times prophesy for about 8 years. Unfortunately, I have never accessed your site! Shame on me!

Today I had written Jim Bramlett the following: "Jim,I greatly appreciated your discourse on the meaning of "5" as we approach the end times.

As I thought, and re-thought, it dawned on me that was 153 days short of Rosh Hashannah. I thought, AHA, that's It!

Then I thought some more, and realized This Ascension day is based on the Christian counting of Passover and Easter, not the Jewish, which would be another 4 weeks.

But Then the 153 days did not fit!

Early on in the year when I realized this was the year an "extra" month was added for the Jews, I thought that very probably that was one more way God was using to "hide" His secret Rapture!

What do you think???"

I have been puzzled over those 153 fish for a long time!!! Thought I had the answer, but I can certainly see the reasons for sticking with the Jewish calendar. Thursday would be Ascension on the Christian calendar.

Can you give me some direction??? Thanks so much!

My reply

I'm not sure how the 153 fish tie in, either. As for the calendars, I'm sticking with the official Hebrew Calendar. My reason is so as not to throw it off by a whole month. Just as it is, it is very accurate in the long run.

I'm hoping the Rapture will be Iyar 26, 5765 (June 4, 2005), Ascension Day. To get to that date, I had to figure out just when Pentecost was actually supposed to be this year, then subtract 10 days.

This year, Passover is Saturday, Nisan 14. Unleavened Bread is Sunday, Nisan 15. Firstfruits is Monday, Nisan 16. Pentecost is the Feast of Weeks. Ex. 34:22 says, "thou shalt observe the FEAST OF WEEKS, of the firstfruits of wheat harvest." We need to add 7 weeks, plus one day--50 days. We start from "the morrow after the sabbath" (Lev. 23:11) (meaning after the Feast of Firstfruits, an annual sabbath). Verses 15 and16 say, "ye shall count unto you FROM THE MORROW AFTER THE SABBATH, FROM THE DAY THAT YE BROUGHT THE SHEAF OF THE WAVE-OFFERING, SEVEN SABBATHS (weeks) SHALL BE COMPLETE: Even unto the morrow after the seventh sabbath (week) shall ye number fifty days".

Firstfruits is Monday Nisan 16 (April 25)
Plus 1st week is Monday Nisan 23 (May 2)
Plus 2nd week is Monday, Nisan 30 (May 9)
Plus 3rd week is Monday, Iyar 7 (May 16)
Plus 4th week is Monday, Iyar 14 (May 23)
Plus 5th week is Monday, Iyar 21 (May 30)
Plus 6th week is Monday, Iyar 28 (June 6)
Plus 7th week is Monday, Sivan 6 (June 13)
Pentecost, the 50th day is Tuesday, Sivan 7 (June 14)

Ascension Day is 10 days before Pentecost, on Saturday, Iyar 26 (June 4). The Six-Day War started June 5, 1967. That was Iyar 26.

In John 4, the Passover is past. Jesus left Judaea and headed toward Galilee (4:3). On the way, he met the Samaritan woman by the well. In verse 35, Jesus told the disciples, "Say not ye, There are yet four months, and then cometh harvest? behold, I say unto you, Lift up your eyes, and look on the fields; for they are white already to harvest." That sounds like the situation this year. The barley was abib early. It caused the Karaites to remove the 13th month from their calendar.

A barley field does have white on it when it is ready to harvest.

I think Christ is The Seed in the sheaf that is harvested on the Feast of Firstfruits, and the Bride of Christ is the rest of the barley harvest to be brought in between Firstfruits and Pentecost, when the wheat harvest can first be used. What is between Firstfruits and Pentecost? Ascension Day.

In John 5, Jesus again went up to Jerusalem for Pentecost was coming. At the pool by the sheep market was the pool Bethesda. An angel went down at "a certain season into the pool, and troubled the water: whosoever then first after the troubling of the water stepped in was made whole of whatsoever disease he had. And a certain man was there, which had an infirmity THIRTY AND EIGHT YEARS" (5:4,5). In verse 8, "Jesus saith unto him, RISE, TAKE UP THY BED AND WALK." In verse 9, "the same day was the SABBATH."

Wow! If we add 38 years to Iyar 26, 5727 (June 5, 1967, when the Six-Day War started), we get Iyar 26, 5765 (June 4, 2005, ASCENSION DAY).

(Note: I think Sivan 7 is the true Pentecost.)

De. 2:14 says, "the space in which we came from Kadeshbarnea (where the provocation took place when the spies returned from the land), until we were come over the brook Zered, was THIRTY AND EIGHT YEARS; until all the generation of the men of war were wasted out from among the host, as the LORD sware unto them." The ones that had been 19 or under at Kadeshbarnea went into the Promised Land 38 years later.

Israel was 19 years old in 1967. Wouldn't you think her Christians might be able to go into the Promised Land of Heaven 38 years later--on Iyar 26, 5765 (June 4, 2005)? It's timed perfectly--to the day, Iyar 26, 5727 to Iyar 26, 5765. We have both an Old Testament type and a New Testament type, so both Israel's Christians and Gentile Christians both have a good chance of figuring this out.

> > secret Rapture!

I don't think it will be secret. Psa. 40:1-3 says, "I waited patiently (as in Rev. 3:10) for the LORD; and he inclined (bent down) unto me, and heard my cry. HE BROUGHT ME UP also out of an horrible pit, out of the miry clay (earth), and set my feet upon a rock (Heaven), and established my goings (at the Rapture). And he hath put a NEW SONG (sung by the saints in Heaven, Rev. 5:9) in my mouth, even praise unto our God: MANY SHALL SEE IT, AND FEAR, AND SHALL TRUST IN THE LORD." Agape

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