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Subject: earth shaking event on October 4, 2005 - which is the Biblical Feast of Trumpets {Parallel alignments of 14,000 Days are revealed in the 1st century A.D. and the 20th & 21st centuries A.D.}

http://www.harvardhouse.com/prophetictech/new/index.htm

My reply

Below are some notes on the subject. I also discussed it back in 1998 on Pro and Con 154.
(Note: I know more about it now, read it here first.)
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1998: Year of the Apocalypse (Part 3)
by Tom Stewart, 2-15-98
http://www.whatsaiththescripture.com/Timeline/98.Yr.of.Apocalypse.3.Text.html
John Zachary...says, "A Generation is Exactly 14,000 Days" ("Threshold of Eternity", p. 42).

Jesus actually entered Jerusalem on Sunday, April 6, 32 AD (Julian)-- as demonstrated by Sir Robert Anderson in his work, The Coming Prince --
http://WhatSaithTheScripture.com/Voice/The.Coming.Prince.html

John Zachary, in his book, "Scientific Evidence for the Second Coming of Christ", on p. 8, establishes Sunday, August 5, 70 AD (Julian)-- also Av 10-- as the correct date for the destruction of the 2nd Temple.

How long was it between April 7, 32 AD (Julian), when Jesus predicted the death of his stubbornly rejecting listeners of Matthew 23:34-36, and the August 5, 70 AD (Julian) Roman burning of the Temple? Let John Zachary say it again. "A Generation is Exactly 14,000 Days." Inclusively, there are 14,000 days between the two dates. Moses even confirms this with his statement about the Generation That Perished in the Wilderness. "And the space in which we came from Kadeshbarnea, until we were come over the brook Zered, was THIRTY AND EIGHT YEARS; until all the generation of the men of war were wasted out from among the host, as the LORD sware unto them" (Deuteronomy 2:14). 14,000 days is about 38 years and 4 months.
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I disagree with Sir Robert Anderson's crucifixion date, April 7, 32 AD (Julian). After lots and lots of study on the subject, I'm convinced that the Crucifixion was on Thursday, April 6, 30 AD (Julian). Herod's Temple was begun in BC 20/19. It was 46 years in building on the first Passover of Jesus' ministry (John 2:20). That was 27 AD. I don't see how we could change that.

The 15th year of Tiberius was 26 AD, when Jesus was baptized near his birthday, Tishri 1. Tiberius became Co-Rex with Augustus in 12 AD, 765 AUC. There is good proof-- a coin that has both Tiberius and Augustus' heads on it. Augustus adopted Tiberius and made him Co-Rex to be sure that he became the next ruler after Augustus. From 12 AD on, Tiberius ruled over Palestine. Augustus was busy with other areas of his realm.

The coin above, showing Tiberius as designated heir, was minted in 12 and 13 AD.

This coin shows Tiberius as Caesar in 12-14 AD.

  

This coin shows both Tiberius and Augustus.

Of The Tribute Penny, by Michael E. Marotta
http://www.coin-newbies.com/articles/caesars.html

"In the July 1999 issue of The Australian Journal of Numismatics, Peter E. Lewis marshalls a case for a tetradrachm of Antioch cataloged as SNG Copenhagen 144 (Syria). This coin has "Caesar" on both sides: Augustus and Tiberius."
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However, it is very interesting that adding 14,000 days to June 7, 1967 brings us to Oct. 4, 2005, the Feast of Trumpets. Just the fact that it comes out even seems remarkable.

I went to Calendar Home:
http://calendarhome.com/cgi-bin/date2.pl?month1=6&date1=5&year1=1967&month2=6&date2=5&year2=2005

June 5, 1967 to June 5, 2005 is 38 years exactly. It is 13,880 days, 120 days short of 14,000 days. But what did Scripture say? De. 2:14 said, "the space in which we came from Kadeshbarnea, until we were come over the brook Zered, was THIRTY AND EIGHT YEARS; until all the generation of the men of war were wasted out from among the host, as the LORD sware unto them"

As usual, I choose to go by Scripture. June 5, 1967, when the Six-Day War started, to June 5, 2005 is 38 years. I am expecting the Rapture within that time frame. Ascension Day seems likely. It is June 4, 2005. That's very close.

However, let's work it out using the Hebrew Calendar. June 5, 1967, when the Six-Day War started, was Iyar 26, 5727. Thirty-eight years later is Iyar 26, 5765. That is June 4, 2005, Ascension Day, RIGHT ON THE NOSE .

I also expect Saturn to still be in Gemini when the Rapture takes place. It is in Gemini now, but will enter Cancer about July 12. It's complete orbit is 29.5 years. It will be a long time coming back to Gemini. I'm hoping this Ascension Day will be the Rapture. Agape

Jewish Temple actually existed on Mt. Moriah afterall, proof found in trash pile

Dumped Temple Mount Rubble Yields Jewish Artifacts, Arutz Sheva, 4:14/05
http://www.jewishindy.com/article.php?sid=4524&mode=thread&order=0&thold=0

...Prominent archaeologist Dr. Gabriel Barkai decided to undertake the task of sifting through the 70 truckloads of Temple Mount dirt in order to rescue as much archaeological information from the destruction as possible....

He said the project is of particular importance due to the Islamic Waqf efforts to perpetrate something that he says is worse than Holocaust denial. "There is a phenomenon of Temple denial," Barkai said. "I just heard [Arab] MK Dahamshe this week in the Knesset denying that there were ever temples on the Temple Mount. It is a part of the cultural Intifada. I think it is just as serious as Holocaust denial. This intifada started in Joseph’s tomb and is trying to deny Jewish rights to the country."

The sifting and examinations have already yielded important artifacts from various periods, starting from the First Temple period until today. Among the discoveries so far:

Coin from the period of the First Revolt against the Romans that preceded the destruction of the Second Temple bearing the phrase “For the Redemption of Zion”.

* During the first days of the project, a coin was recovered from the time of the Great Revolt against the Romans, preceding the destruction of the Second Temple. It bore the Hebrew phrase L’Herut Tzion, “For the Freedom of Zion.” The find was particularly meaningful, as the Temple Mount itself was one of the focal points of the Revolt.

* A few days later, on the eve of Chanukah, workers discovered the “pinched style” spout of a Hasmonaean lamp.

* Several weeks later, on the Tenth of Teveth - one of the fast days commemorating events that lead to the destruction of the First Temple - a crusader arrowhead was discovered. Though this was from a later period than the Temple’s destruction, arrowheads were subsequently recovered from earlier periods.

* An unexpected find, due to the Waqf’s removal of almost all large artifacts, was a large segment of a marble pillar’s shaft - one meter tall and 60 cm in diameter, streaked with purple veins and white spots. There is another segment of a column shaft with a similar texture lying in a heap of various marble column shafts near the southern wall within the Temple Mount. Both fragments seem to be from the same pillar....

* A large amount of pottery shards were discovered. Some 10-20 percent of it stems from the time of the First Temple period, and a small amount comes from the Second Temple period.

* Animal bones - remnants of sacrifices.

* A number of mosaic tiles and prehistoric flint implements.

* An inscription chiseled on a jar fragment of the First Temple period, with the ancient Hebrew letters “Heh,” “Ayin” and “Kof.”

Seal with five-pointed star with ancient Hebrew letters spelling “Jerusalem” spaced between the points/

* A seal impression from the Hellenistic period showing a five-pointed star with the ancient Hebrew letters spelling “Jerusalem” spaced between the points. About 30 such impressions have been found in Jerusalem on handles from the Hellenistic period (3rd century BCE). This was apparently a kind of official stamp from a period about which very little is known.

* Numerous ceramic oil lamps were found. The most common among them are “Herodian lamps” from the time of the Second Temple. Another frequently found lamp is the “sandal” type, characteristic of the late Byzantine period (6-7th century CE). Many are decorated menorah patterns.

* Hasmonean coin bearing inscription “Yehonathan High Priest, friend of the Jews” one one side and a picture of a cornucopia with a pomegranate in the center on the other.

* About 100 ancient coins, including several from the period of the Hasmonaean dynasty. One of the Hasmonean coins bears an inscription “Yehonatan High Priest, friend of the Jews.” On the other side is a cornucopia with a pomegranate in the center. Another coin is of Alexander Jannaeus. One side has the design of an anchor and the other side a star.

* A fragment of a figurine from the First Temple period.

* A Scytho-Iranian arrowhead, of the type used by the Babylonian army of Nebuchadnezzar that destroyed the First Temple in 586 BCE. Very few such arrowheads have been found in Jerusalem.

* A bronze arrowhead from the Hellenistic period, possibly a remnant left by the Seleucid forces that were stationed in the Akra fortress, or by soldiers of Shimon the Maccabee, who liberated the Temple Mount.

* An ivory comb, apparently from the Second Temple period. Similar combs have been found at Qumran, and it is probable that they were used as preparation for ritual purification in a mikveh (ritual bath), prior to entering the Temple courts....

Incoming e-mail, Re: Arutz Sheva - Israel National News

Didn't know if you saw this or not. It's pretty interesting, don't you think?
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Exclusive: Kabbalist Blesses Jones to Uncover Holy Lost Ark, 5-18-05

An unnamed Kabbalist has granted blessing to famed archeologist Dr. Vendyl Jones, to uncover the Holy Ark of the Covenant. Jones plans to excavate the Lost Ark by the Tisha B’Av Fast this summer....

The Talmud says the Ark is hidden in a secret passage under the Temple Mount. Jones says that in fact, the Ark was brought through a secret passage beneath the mount – and that same natural tunnel in fact continues 18 miles into the Judean Desert....

As recently as last month, the rabbi (Kabbalist), who only communicates via messenger, told Jones that the time was not yet right to discover the Temple vessels.

Last Thursday, Dr. Jones received a communication from the rabbi reading, “The time is right.”...

“Then they [the Jewish Nation] sent in those [twelve] spies who gave the evil report, and because they believed the evil report, they were sentenced to wander for 38 years before they could come into Gilgal,” – an ancient city near Jericho.

“1967 was a repetition of Kadesh Barnea,” Jones says. “If Israel had come in and taken this place, the Arabs would have fled like they did in 1948. But no, because of the evil report of Golda Meir and Motta Gur and Moshe Dayan, who said ‘We cannot do that, world opinion will be against us.’ So Israel was sentenced to 38 years more – and June the 7th [2005], Jerusalem Day, will be the 38th year....

Dr. Jones says the discovery of the lost ark will “flip the whole world right-side-up.”

“I just gotta drill a bore-hole into the chamber, drop a pin-camera in and there it is. And everything is gonna change, believe me. The Jewish people are gonna come back.”...

My reply

Thanks. Yes, it is very interesting. However, after Ron Wyatt's claims not turning out to be true, I am skeptical of the claims of Vendyl Jones. Forgive me for bringing up the claims of Rom Wyatt and Tom Crotser. Their stories interweave to help us understand the undermining current that is working in this world today.

I do think Vendyl Jones has the right idea concerning the 38 years. Actually, the 38 years from June 5 (Iyar 26, 5752), when the Six-Day War started, is Saturday, Iyar 26, 5765 (June 4, 2005). That is ASCENSION DAY. It could be the day of the Pre-Trib Rapture. I hope so.

Re: Ron Wyatt;s claims

After my research, I feel sure that Mt. Sinai is the volcanic Jebel Halal in the "desert of Sinai," 25 or 30 miles from Kadesh-barnea (which is only 50 miles from the Mediterranean Sea), not Jebel Musa in the mountainous southern tip of Sinai, and not Jebel El Lawz in Saudia Arabia, as Ron Wyatt claimed. The Israelites did not leave the desert during the whole trip to Mt. Sinai. They were in the desert of Etham, the desert of Shur and the desert of Sinai. Since Ron Wyatt was wrong about that, I discount everything else he said, including his claim that he found out that the blood of Christ dripped down through a crack in the rock and landed on the top of the Ark in a cave below the cross.
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Scripture is clear. Ex. 19:2 says of the Israelites, "they were departed from Rephidim, and were come to THE DESERT (midba^r) OF SINAI, and had pitched in THE WILDERNESS (midba^r, desert); and there Israel camped before the mount."

The earthly ark of the covenant was an "example and shadow of heavenly things", a "pattern" of the one in Heaven. Whether we know where the pattern is or not, the real "ark of his testament" exists in Heaven.

Heb 8:5 says, "Who serve unto the example and shadow of heavenly things, as Moses was admonished of God when he was about to make the tabernacle: for, See, saith he, that thou make all things according to the PATTERN shewed to thee in the mount."

Rev 11:19 says, "And the temple of God was opened in heaven, and there was seen in his temple THE ARK OF HIS TESTAMENT: and there were lightnings, and voices, and thunderings, and an earthquake, and great hail."

In our days, several have searched for the ark of the covenant, but after Rev. 11:19 comes to pass, it will not even be remembered. Jer 3:16 says, "it shall come to pass, when ye be multiplied and increased in the land, in those days, saith the LORD, they shall say no more, The ark of the covenant of the LORD: neither shall it come to mind: neither shall they remember it; neither shall they visit it; neither shall that be done any more."

One thing for sure, the Ark can't be at each spot that has been claimed by different people. It is only at one place, and will or won't be found according to the Lord's will.

If you want more details, you can read about Ron Wyatt's search for the Ark of the Covenant at this URL: http://www.wyattarchaeology.com/ark.htm
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A Great Christian Scam
By Gary Amirault
This article generated enough interest to warrant complete documentation of the Wyatt Archaeological Research findings on the Tentmaker website.
http://www.tentmaker.org/Dew/Dew7/D7-AGreatChristianScam.html
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Here is the account of one who tried to duplicate Ron Wyatt's discovery.
ARCHEOLOGY WITH RON WYATT: a personal account
... by the reports of remarkable discoveries by Ron Wyatt in ancient Bible lands.
... Now you can understand why I have laid aside the claims of Ron Wyatt...
http://www.ldolphin.org/wyatt1.html

...Over several days we were able to excavate our way down into the same cave system that Wyatt had explored two years before. I'm sorry to report that in the end we came up empty-handed. The connecting channel through which Wyatt had claimed to see the furniture was not there. On the final day of excavation, when we could not see the internal cavern landmarks that Wyatt had predicted, Ron himself finally climbed down into the dim space. After a long time he emerged, looking confused. As we waited respectfully to hear his report, he mumbled a few words like: "It's not the same; it's changed. It's not the way I remember it." There was no opening to be seen, giving a view into an adjacent cavern. There was nothing. In the process of our digging we had come up with a few interesting little objects from Roman times, but they were irrelevant to our main goal.
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More on Vendyl Jones' claims

Here is an article about the claims of Vendyl Jones. He has the wrong view of Christ, who is the Saviour of all mankind. Paul said, "God was in Christ, reconciling the world unto himself" (II Cor. 5:19).

Film Claims Disputed; Dig Shut Down: Vendyl Jones' Claims Challenged http://www.watchman.org/reltop/filmdig.htm  by James Walker

The amateur archeologist and theologian Vendyl Jones is back in the news creating controversy with his unusual claims, bizarre brand of archeology, and unorthodox doctrines....

Jones, a former Baptist preacher, believes these missing ashes are the key to prophecy. He predicts that once he finds the ashes, "God will return to earth in a tongue of fire. The tented temple will be restored in a blaze of transcendent glory. Jews from all nations will return to Israel. And peace will come to the Middle East" (Ibid).

In the article, entitled, "Masquerader of the Lost Ark," Seal discovered that Jones' archeology is an outgrowth of his unusual theology.

Jones teaches a doctrine known as dual covenant. He believes that Jesus Christ is not the Savior of Jews but is only Savior of the gentiles. Jones even claims it is sinful to share Christ with a Jew.

Jones called traditional New Testament theology, "the greatest hoax of mankind" explaining that he was driven to archaeology by, "his belief that the New Testament was a fraud" (Texas Monthly p. 140)...
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Well, he will find out different before long.

Here is the last part of another Vendyl Jones article about things from the Temple.
http://www.vendyljones.org.il/emeq_hamelekh.htm

...Mishnah 12
Hiluk, son of Shimur HaLevi, was given twelve more precious stones in order to hide them so that they could [eventually] be restored to the Tribes [of Israel]. The names of the Tribes were engraved on them, and they shone on the Tribe's heads, excellent and precious, one more than the other. No king, prophet, or anyone else knew where they were hidden, excepting Hiluk, son of Shimur HaLevi. The remainder of the wealth and glory that was in Jerusalem was taken by angel Shimshiel. Shimur, Hiluk, and their companions, the Levites, later went and showed it to Michael and Gavriel. All Israel concealed the Vessels until a righteous king arises over Israel. What's more, they all swore a solemn vow never to reveal the whereabouts of these vessels until David, son of David, arises. All silver, gold, and Margaliot (precious stones) which was ever hidden away will be handed over to him when the exiles of Israel will be gathered from the four ends of the earth, and they ascend with greatness and exaltation to the land of Israel. At that time, a great river will issue forth from the Holy of Holies of the Temple. Its name is Gihon, and it will flow to the great and dreadful desert, and become mixed with the Euphrates River. Immediately, all the Vessels will float up and be revealed.
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Float up? The Lord made an iron axe head float once, but "all the Vessels"? I don't know about that.
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Re: Tom Crotser

1982 Flashback: Ark of the Covenant FOUND??
LA Times, Apr 2, 05
http://www.unexplainable.net/artman/publish/article_1833.shtml

a clipping taken from the LA Times, March 15, 1982

Ark of the Covenant FOUND??

Tom Crotser, leader of a recent expedition to uncover the Ark of the Covenant, says his find has been supported by a Jordanian archeologist.

Samir Ghisan said he knows of the corridor on Mount Pisgah that Crotser claims leads to the chamber containing the fabled Ark.

Ghisan, now at Loma Linda University in California, formerly was regional director for the Museum at Madaba, Jordan.

Crotser, of Winfield, Kansas, claims to have discovered the golden box (the Ark) that is said to contain the original Ten Commandments and the Rod of Aaron.

But he says he won't release his photographs until he can show them to European financier DAVID ROTHSCHILD, who, Crotser says, WILL REBUILD THE TEMPLE OF JERUSALEM.
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Maybe the Rothschilds will offer to rebuild the temple. They built the very symbolic Israeli Supreme Court in Jerusalem with their own money and their own architect. A picture of it is below. There is a pyramid in the round depression on the roof. The upside-down cross that is walked over is in the round depression at the left-front.
See: The Roots of Evil in Jerusalem, By Jerry Golden
http://www.shilohouse.org/roots_of_evil.htm

supreme-court-jerusalem

...The Rothschilds made several stipulations with the Israeli Government before the building began, among them were. The Rothschilds would pick the plot of land to build the Supreme Court; they would use their own architects, and no one would ever know how much the building cost. It took them four years to build this structure with many secrets built into it....

But this is where our journey begins as we begin to enter into the building, for this entire journey is intended to bring one from darkness into the light, and become an Illuminated one....

As we turn to the left and begin to walk towards the Pyramid we notice a metal strip in the marble floor. The Ley-Lines cross directly under the pyramid they run from this place to different places in the city. It is where the Judges and others can stand to receive knowledge and power. Standing directly over a piece of crystal with the all Seeing Eye of Lucifer the light bearer above them.

For those who are not aware of the term Ley-Lines, it is lines in geographical places that Witches, Warlock, and Wizards walk claiming for the Devil. If you will notice in every large city all palm readers and such are usually on the same street that is a ley-line....

For a moment lets go back to the top of the 30 steps, as we know there are 33 degrees in Free Masonry but the last three are the ones of higher learning and preparations to enter the Illuminati. So as we move from the top of the stairs towards the Pyramid we see a great library with three tiers to those three levels of higher learner. They three final steps in Free Masonry and after that if ones choose to go higher and have been accepted they enter the highest levels of the Illuminati....

In Conclusion

We have just lightly touched on the significance of this building for there are literally hundreds of details that point to the Illuminati and their plans for mankind. But more important to this report it establishes a base for the seat of the one that will be accepted by most as the messiah, before Yeshua returns to set up his reign and rule over the earth....
Jerry Golden
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I accept the Bible as 100% true in it's original editions. This world is going to the dogs. We need to compare everything to Scripture in these days. It's the only absolute truth we have to go by.

I have learned enough about the Masons, Eastern Star (women's division), and the Illuminati to steer clear of them. Mom and Dad joined the Masons and Eastern Star in New Augusta, IN, (where we lived when was 1 to 5) but had to get out, because they couldn't afford the dues. That was a lucky break. They had no idea what their teachings led to in the upper three orders, worshiping Lucifer. He's full of tricks, and secret organizations are right up his alley. Love

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