Pro and Con 1217

Posted 6-8-05

I found a picture of the very bright new star that appeared in Vela near the Southern Cross on May 22, 1999 (Sivan 7, Pentecost)

Introducing Nova Velorum 1999
Credit & Copyright: Gordon Garradd
http://antwrp.gsfc.nasa.gov/apod/ap990524.html
(The cross is an artifact of the telescope and camera, not part of the sign)

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HUBBLE SPACE TELESCOPE DAILY REPORT #2398
http://www.stsci.edu/ftp/observing/status_reports/old_reports_99/hst_status_06_22_99

...Nova Velorum 1999 {V382 Vel}, discovered on 1999 May 22, is the ninth brightest classical nova in recorded history...
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'New Star' Sails In
Nova Velorum 1999
http://www.saao.ac.za/news/blast.html

The nova is near the left end of Vela and above and to the right of the Southern Cross. On 23 May 1999 it was slightly brighter than the fourth brightest star in the Southern Cross...

Re: Reason for Saturn's different colored rings

Saturn: Dirty Rings and a Clean Moon
Credit: Cassini Imaging Team, SSI, JPL, ESA, NASA
http://antwrp.gsfc.nasa.gov/apod/astropix.html

Explanation...From their apparent densities and reflectance properties, both the rings of Saturn and its shiniest moon, Enceladus, are thought to be composed predominantly of water ice. For reasons that are not yet understood, however, many of Saturn's ring particles have become partly coated with some sort of relatively dark dust, while the surface of Enceladus appears comparatively bright and clean....

The Sanhedrin's Decision Regarding the Holy Temple, the Temple Mount, and Jerusalem

28 Iyar 5765
http://www.templeinstitute.org/sanhedrin-declaration.htm

The Sanhedrin calls upon all groups who work in the area of Temple and Temple Mount-related research and activity, to begin to prepare detailed architectural plans for the construction of the Holy Temple, towards the goal of its establishment in its proper place. The Sanhedrin will establish a forum of architects and engineers whose goal will be to implement this decision, so that detailed working plans are effectively brought to an operational stage.

The Sanhedrin calls upon the Jewish people to contribute towards the acquisition of materials for the purpose of rebuilding the Holy Temple; the gathering and preparation of prefabricated, disassembled portions of this building to be stored and ready for rapid assembly, in the manner of King David. These contributions will be consider "chulin," i.e., non-sacred, for the purpose of the planning and construction of the Temple.

Prof. Hillel Weiss
R. Chaim Richman
Spokesmen for the Sanhedrin

Rabbi Adin Even-Israel Steinsaltz Elected to Head Sanhedrin

Jun 07, '05 / 29 Iyar 5765
http://www.israelnationalnews.com/news.php3?id=83438

From Five Doves site

Liz Tracy (6 June 2005)
"Staying Awake"

Can any of you help me with a verse in Matthew 25 that has always troubled me? Verse 5 says they *all* (wise and foolish) slumbered and slept before the bridegroom arrived. Here's the verse...

Matthew 25:5 While the bridegroom tarried, they* all *slumbered and slept....

My question is the *ALL* in verse 5! It looks like they were all sleeping when the bridegroom arrived! Here at Doves we're a unique group of watchers who are at it 24/7! Dates come and go and we remain strong and committed to our watch. But does these verse imply that eventually we will ALL fall into a slumber?!!! Oh my - I surely hope not as I have tried so hard since 1998 to keep my lamp burning even when we've experienced so many disappointments! But this verse troubles me. Will we all fall into a state of slumber eventually? I hope my fellow watchers can ease my fears on this!

Thanks for all your hard work and faithful study in the Word!

Your drowsy, but still awake sister, Liz

My reply

Remember that Mt. 25:1-13 is a parable, an example. It applies a wide brush to all believers at the time of the Rapture, not necessarily singling out one. According to Mt. 24:51 and Luke 12:46, this is the time when the unwise servants are to be cut off. That's why in the Preview of the Rapture in Rev. 1, verse 16 shows Jesus with a "sharp twoedged sword" coming out of his mouth.

Also, in Rev. 2:5, Jesus warned the "churches", saying, "Remember therefore from whence thou art fallen, and REPENT, and do the first works; or else I will come unto thee quickly (he comes quickly at the Rapture), and will remove thy candlestick out of his place, except thou REPENT." In Rev. 2:16, Jesus said, "REPENT; or else I will come unto thee quickly, and will fight against them (the Nicolaitans, who separated believers into Priests and laity to lord it over the believer priests) with the SWORD of my mouth."

Mt. 22:10-14 shows that some are to be cut off because they are not wearing white wedding garments, which are robes of righteousness. Verse 14 says, "For many are called, but few are chosen." According to Rev. 17:14, "they that are with him (the Lamb, Jesus) are called, and chosen, and faithful."

Mt. 24, Luke 12 and Rev. 3 shows us why some are to be cut off. At the time of the Rapture, there are both wise and foolish believers, both Philadelphians, for whom Jesus had no words of condemnation, and Laodicians, who deserve rebuke and chastening (Rev. 3:19). In Mt. 25:5, the parable of the ten virgins, the word "pas" (all) can mean the whole, but doesn't have to be without exception. It can also mean any one, or as many as. The exact meaning has to be determined by the context.

Strong's 3956 says, "all, any, every, the whole: - all (manner of, means) alway (-s), any (one), X daily, + ever, every (one, way), as many as, + no (-thing), X throughly, whatsoever, whole, whosoever."

We can be sure that there are those that are watching. They "love his appearing." They have not left their first love like certain in the church of Ephesus. In II Tim. 4:7,8, Paul said, "I have fought a good fight, I have finished my course, I have kept the faith: Henceforth there is laid up for me a crown of righteousness, which the Lord, the righteous judge, shall give me at that day (day of the Pre-Trib Rapture): and not to me only, but unto all them also that LOVE HIS APPEARING."

Heb 9:28 says, "So Christ was once offered to bear the sins of many; and unto them that LOOK FOR HIM shall he appear the second time without sin unto salvation."

2Pe 3:13,14 says, "Nevertheless we, according to his promise, look for new heavens and a new earth, wherein dwelleth righteousness. Wherefore, beloved, seeing that ye LOOK FOR such things, be diligent that ye may be found of HIM in peace, WITHOUT SPOT, and blameless."

Over and over, Jesus told us to watch. We are to keep alert and look for signs. In Rev 3:3, Jesus said, "Remember therefore how thou hast received and heard, and hold fast, and repent. If therefore thou shalt not WATCH, I will come on thee as a thief, and thou shalt not know what hour I will come upon thee."

If we DO watch, he will not come on us as a thief, and we shall KNOW what hour he will come upon us. We have to keep watching. At some point, we will KNOW the hour.

Scripture agrees with Scripture. The Bridegroom tarries, but he will not be late. It is all according to plan. He tarries awhile to test us to see if we will wait patiently (Rev. 3:10). The time is long enough that we must go to sleep at night, but we should get ready and be confident that if we are asleep, he will wake us up at the proper time.

Psa 127:2 says, that "he giveth his beloved sleep."

In Mt. 25:5, the word "tarried" is the Greek "chronizo?," to take time, that is, linger: - delay, tarry. He takes a certain amount of time to test us to see if we will watch with patient endurance. If we pass this test, we will be caught up in the first Rapture (Rev. 3:11).

Luke 21:34-36 says, "take heed to yourselves, lest at any time your hearts be overcharged with surfeiting, and drunkenness, and cares of this life, and so that day come upon you unawares. For as a snare shall it come on all them that dwell on the face of the whole earth. Watch ye therefore, and pray always, that ye may be accounted worthy to escape all these things that shall come to pass, and to stand before the Son of man."

Today, I got an email with the subject, "give it up." It said, "Ok - another date come and gone. Every year since 2000 you have tried to pick a date then move it again then pick again next year pentecost over and over. "Don't you think with all the egg on your face its about time to quit bringing mocking to the rest of us who realize its impossible to go against God's word that says NO man knows the day or the hour - You cannot say that any plainer than Jesus did. It's about time to shut this site down and instead of picking another date simply acknowledge - NO MAN KNOWS THE DAY OR THE HOUR!."

I think of Mark 8:31-33. It says that Jesus "began to teach them, that the Son of man must suffer many things, and be rejected of the elders, and of the chief priests, and scribes, and be killed, and after three days rise again. And he spake that saying openly. And Peter took him, and began to rebuke him. But when he had turned about and looked on his disciples, he rebuked Peter, saying get thee behind me, Satan: for thou savourest not the things that be of God, but the things that be of men."

Mt. 24:36 says, "But of that day and hour knoweth (present tense) no man." On that day, two days before the Crucifixion, no man knew the day and hour. However, after that, we were told to watch. Moreover, in Rev. 3:3, we were warned what would happen if we don't watch. I am watching, and will continue to watch.

In Mark 13:23, Jesus said, "But take ye heed: behold, I HAVE FORETOLD YOU ALL THINGS." I believe Jesus. Isa. 46:10 says, "I am God, and there is none else; I am God, and there is none like me, Declaring the end from the beginning, and from ancient times the things that are not yet done, saying, My counsel shall stand, and I will do all my pleasure." I not only will continue to watch, I will continue to look for clues. At some point, we that are watching will know the hour. Agape

Incoming e-mail, Re: rapture date

Hi, why are we still here? I have been anxiously anticipating the Lord's return since 1998 and before. I get the feeling that no matter how hard anyone studies it, the actual rapture will be elusive. You make more sense by far than any other end times scholar, and I completely agree with your 2 rapture assessment. But so far the actual knowing of the day and hour seems to have eluded you too. I have come to the decision that if after all your studying of the subject, you still can't get it, then it is practically hopeless for a newbie like myself. I was so convinced that it would happen at 4:00 PM (eastern) today that I actually pulled into a 7-11 at 3:52 so as not to be in a traffic situation when the rapture came. But at 4:10, I knew that I was wrong again. Even my family chuckles now when I say that the Lord's return is near. I have been wrong so many times now. I will now, for my own sanity, have to take the next possible date with a grain of salt, keep my mouth shut and just hope for the best. I don't see how you can't get discouraged when dates come and go with nothing happening. All the signs, all the connections, all the world events pointing to now and still nothing. I am tired and I think I will take a break from it all for a while. Thank you for all your hard work and I really hope that you have better success with your next possible date. YBIC.

My reply

We are here because the exact day and hour has not come, but never fear, it will. And newbies are not off the hook to keep watching.

In Mark 13:34-37, Jesus said, "For the Son of man is as a man taking a far journey, who left his house, and gave authority to his servants, and TO EVERY MAN his work, and commanded the porter to watch. Watch ye therefore: for ye know not when the master of the house cometh, at even, or at midnight, or at the cockcrowing, or in the morning: Lest coming suddenly he find you sleeping. And what I say unto you I SAY UNTO ALL, WATCH."

As for being ready, we made new wills.

Take heart. Reread the clues for Pentecost, June 13/14, 2005, on my Home Page. It is almost here. Have you heard of the man who froze to death just 30 feet from his front door? He gave up too soon. You wouldn't want to give up when the "door" of Rev. 3:8 and 4:1 is practically in sight, would you? Our time is getting shorter all the time. We have a lot better chance this Pentecost than we did in 1998. Agape

Incoming e-mail, Re: I'm Behind You My Sister!

Dear Marilyn, do not let the scoffing unbelievers and/or the frustrated believers detract from your mission of searching Scripture for clues of His return and sharing them with those of us that appreciate your work. They have a choice, they can choose to not visit your web site to see where your research leads you next, although I doubt they would be able to stay away for long, as looking for Christ's return to those of us that can't wait to see and be with Him is very addictive.

It is believers like you who have been blessed with knowledge of interpretation of Scripture and with a mission to continue to research and share that keep those of us awake and looking for the Bridegroom. No, don't allow any unkind e-mail to detract from that which you have been called to do. Continue to research, study and consider and give us your opinions over > and over again. You do so with such humility and grace while often saying that you are not a prophet, so let the scoffers have their day. You will hit the nail on the head and your day and mine will be that much sweeter, for He has provided clues and if so it is because He wants us to look for His return, and His return is imminent and He will return as He said He would.

Marilyn, your postings have kept me interested, hopeful and focused through a very trying period in my life during which my wife of thirty years was called home after a long battle with cancer. I'd rather spend my time reading your thoughts and looking for Him than considering those who are only good at throwing.

Go on with your work my sister, I will be looking for your postings daily as I have done for the past three years until the 'come up hither!!' comand is given. Maranatha

My reply

Thanks much. I'm sorry for the trials you, and many others, have been subjected to. Not everything that happens is good, but the Lord works everything together for good to those that love him. Only when we are tested do we have opportunity to demonstrate what we are made of.

Long ago, after launching into deep and earnest Bible study, I asked the Lord what he wanted me to do. Not knowing where I was headed, I just kept on keeping on studying as hard as I could go. As time went on, I wrote three books, feeling inclined to do so. There is no way that I would have understood that he wanted me to write and post on the Internet if he had told me, but that was what he was training me up to do.

I was using my husband's old portable college typewriter on a rickety card table in the corner of the kitchen. For my 40th birthday, my husband, Ed, got me a big Olympic electric typewriter (not realizing that it was a model 40). We made the garage into a room for me to teach Good News Club and bought a big heavy desk for my typewriter at an auction. A corner of the garage-room became my study. Later, after we bought Spring Crest Drapery and moved to another house, Ed got me a computer to write my book with. As I started over for the 7th time, he said that he would like to see that book finished before he died. After that, he bought me two more computers, the last, an obsolete used one. Later yet, in another house, Ed signed me up for the Internet as soon as I finished the last book. He felt inclined to push me into that about the time we retired from the drapery business.

At that point, things began to fall apart. The people that bought our business skipped and quit paying us. A con artist cheated us out of our retirement nest egg. We finally had to deed our house over to Boston Harbor because we couldn't sell it and then were forced to declare Bankruptcy on down the road. You know who was at work trying to stop me, but the Lord rules.

Not knowing that HTML existed, I suddenly had a slot on the Internet to work in and was told briefly about HTML. Not having the money by that time to get a book on HTML, I was forced to go out on the Internet and search for the information I needed. I found an HTML Guide and had my web page up within a month. That was in the fall of 1996.

In our retirement house, the only house we were able to buy, totally arranged by the Lord because we couldn't, and after all this time, you don't think I would give up the fight, do you?

Later, not being able to afford a new computer, the Lord led someone nice to buy me a brand new one instead of getting himself a new one. I'll be eternally grateful. I wore that one out, and lately, several other people sent me just enough money to get another new one. Others have helped us get through financially when our boat was shipping water. Someone furnishes me as much free web space as needed for the entire Bible Prophecy Corner. I'll never thank them enough, forget such kindness, or quit writing on the Internet until compelled to do so by things only the Lord controls. Now 76 years old, diabetic, with degenerative disk disease and a sore thumb and wrist, using a Trac ball "mouse" bought for me by a dear girl born without feet, and wearing a wrist brace, I'm here for the duration.

As for detractors, this keyboard has a handy Delete key, and I know how to use it. Having surmounted various obstacles thrown in my path along the way, I do have a mission, and I aim to complete it. My faith cannot be broken, and I remember that Jesus said, "he that taketh not his cross, and followeth after me, is not worthy of me" (Mt 10:38). Above all things, I want to be worthy of Him. Agape

Incoming e-mail, Re: Question about Damascus

(Isaiah 17:1 ESV) An oracle concerning Damascus. Behold, DAMASCUS WILL CEASE TO BE A CITY and will become a heap of ruins....

(Isaiah 17:12-14 NIV) Oh, the raging of many nations-- they rage like the raging sea! Oh, the uproar of the peoples-- they roar like the roaring of great waters! Although the peoples roar like the roar of surging waters, when he rebukes them they flee far away, driven before the wind like chaff on the hills, like tumbleweed before a gale. In the evening, sudden terror! Before the morning, they are gone! This is the portion of those who loot us, the lot of those who plunder us.

I am curious, if the destruction of Damascus is to occur the same day, "THAT DAY", as everything else you listed, why is Damascus singled out by name? I read all of the scripture but it seems to me that the destruction of Damascus will be its own separate event apart from That Day because the city is set apart from everyone else by the simple fact that she is named by God. What am I missing that shows it will occur That Day? Is there any way you can condense it for me so I can see it clearly? I understand why Babylon is mentioned by name but don't understand why Damascus is singled out from all of the other destruction. Thanks

My reply

Damascus isn't the only city of destruction mentioned in Scripture. Zep 2:1-5 says, "Gather yourselves together, yea, gather together, O nation not desired (Israel, 1948); Before the decree bring forth, before the day pass as the chaff, before the fierce anger of the LORD come upon you, before the day of the LORD'S anger come upon you. Seek ye the LORD, all ye meek of the earth, which have wrought his judgment; seek righteousness, seek meekness: it may be ye shall be hid (or raptured) in the day of the LORD'S anger. For GAZA shall be forsaken, and ASHKELON a desolation: they shall drive out ASHDOD at the noon day, and EKRON shall be rooted up. Woe unto the inhabitants of the sea coast".

Rev. 16:17-20 says, "It is done. And there were voices, and thunders, and lightnings; and there was a great earthquake, such as was not since men were upon the earth, so mighty an earthquake, and so great. And the great city was divided into three parts, and THE CITIES OF THE NATIONS FELL: and great Babylon came in remembrance before God, to give unto her the cup of the wine of the fierceness of his wrath. And every island fled away, and the mountains were not found." Agape

Incoming e-mail

My terrible fear is that things in my life might not be "holy enough". I do the best I can, living with a non-christian husband, who I love dearly and pray for constantly. These last few months have seemed pressing on me to rapidly "remove" all things in me that are not pleasing to the Lord...a sort of "whole life" spring cleaning. Language, thots that dishonor, temper....I feel almost "rushed" in the spirit..like maturity is being done much more rapidly than normal. See, I have always thot Pentecost was the day...it is when the church began, and would be neat and fitting to close the age the same way. God delights in simple patterns..He is not the author of confusion! It seems to me that the Curch has a different purpose than Israel, and I don't think it would happen on one of Israel's days...that is type and shadow for their own conclusion. Jesus fulfilled the first feasts on Israel's first three days, before they rejected Him and the focus was shifted to the Church. Since that is the only holiday we ligitimately 'share" as a body, that's my guess. Then the clock can begin for their conclusion.

From the way things are shaping up, prophetically, I almost feel it HAS to be this year...things can't hold in place much longer, and EVERYthing is set up and poised for the trib to begin. I YEARN to see my LORD'S FACE with every fiber of my being...Sometimes I almost can't catch my breath, I ache for Him so badly. If I was not counted worthy, I think my heart would break in two.

My reply

With that attitude, you can't miss. Let's just hope that "and thy house" applies to non-believing husbands. Here are some verses to ponder.

Acts 16:31 says, "Believe on the Lord Jesus Christ, and thou shalt be saved, and thy house."

Gen 7:1 says, "the LORD said unto Noah, Come thou and all thy house into the ark; for thee (Noah) have I seen righteous before me in this generation."

1Co 7:13,14 says, "the woman which hath an husband that believeth not, and if he be pleased to dwell with her, let her not leave him. For the unbelieving husband is sanctified by the wife, and the unbelieving wife is sanctified by the husband: else were your children unclean; but now are they holy."

Gen 2:24 says, "Therefore shall a man leave his father and his mother, and shall cleave unto his wife: and they shall be one flesh." Agape


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