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Incoming Email M. AGEE - keep up the good work and the Lord has done a mighty work through you... EVEN if things presented are totally wrong, which I don't believe they are, the Lord has called you to WAKE-UP a perverse generation to the coming reality of His judgment against mankind... who can argue with the signs of the time...? God speed through His son, the Lord Jesus Christ, who strengthens us all!!!!
Right after the Lord saved me from the fire, (AMEN!!) He led me to your book; "The End of the Age". It was the strangest thing; I was in a secular book store looking for some Jesus stuff and low and behold, your book was just sitting on a shelf; one of a kind; right out front; no other copies. I believe the Lord gave me that "gem" for a reason.
The works the Lord has called you to complete has made a wonderful difference in my desire to study the Word and has kept me focused on Him and praying that I would be found "worthy" to NOT have to live through a terrible tribulation. Of course, "We can do all things through Christ who strengthens us" and "We know that "ALL" things work for the good of those who love GOD (JESUS), to them called according to His purpose"... my point is this... if we are TRULY part of the body of Christ, even if we're wrong about the dates, Jesus is using your awesome calling to prepare the body of Christ for His coming back... we all need to continue to WATCH and be diligent in our pursuit for that "higher calling"...
With the "loss" of NUCLEAR weapons from the old USSR (RE-distributed to IRAN (hearsay... yea, right!!), and with the stance of the Islamic fundamentalists to destroy ISRAEL, we all need to be watching diligently. Fortunately, the Lord Jesus is in charge and His timetable will be completed as He sees fit. As you know, its only by the AWESOME hand of the LORD that ISRAEL is still strong and will continue to be. Fortunately, in the Word ("that was made Flesh and dwelt among us"), the Lord has stated that once He brings back ISRAEL as a nation; "They will not depart from it"... With ARAFATS public declaration of the "Philistine" STATE in 1999 (sounds toooo close to their new name doesn't it?), it is imminent that ISRAEL will be the target of the Arabs with newly acquired nuclear weapons... not to mention CHEMICAL, BIOLOGICAL versions running around... YIKES!! (what about the IRAQ dude thinks he's Babylon REPLACEMENT re-incarnated!! AND He's is building the old city as we speak!!)
I trust the Lord will all my heart and we all need to live everyday as if its going to be our last... IF WE KNEW for sure, it was this coming weekend, how many of you would be passing out TRACKS to people in malls, talking to co-workers about the Lord and His enduring love and peace... I guess we all should live that way everyday with a sense of URGENCY that ANYTIME can be the day.... what do you think?
The date of 6-14-1998 sort a reads like this in biblical gematria (I think)....MAN'S (6) SALVATION/DELIVERANCE (14) through FAITH (19) by the HOLY SPIRIT (90) results in a NEW BEGINNING (8)... who knows??... and if you add up the above dates you get "93"... FRUIT of the Holy Spirit by the TRINITY of the Lord...
The Lord led me to a old publication last year about biblical numbering; not NUMEROLOGY; SATAN'S attempt to get people to TELL their FUTURES; just like ASTROLOGY.... (SATAN has never invented anything.... he tires to copy all the things given by the LORD (ASTRONOMY and numerical gematria))... anyway, after testing the spirit; these are some things He revealed to me:
of course in GREEK, the name of JESUS does equal "888".... pretty cool! a NEW BEGINNING 3 fold...
Joshua and the name of JESUS equals the same gematria = "74"; SPIRITUAL PERFECTION (70) for the WORLD (4)
39 old testament books equal (DISEASE) and 27 books in the new testament equal (PREACHING of the GOSPEL)...for a total of 66... they were given to man to know the absolute TRUTH... JESUS is the only way!!
anyway.... keep up the good work.... "for God so loved the World that He GAVE His only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in Him, shall have everlasting life..." AND don't give up... "look up, our redemption draweth near!!"
Incoming Email Current Affairs
'I don't want to get off on a rant here or anything but..'
June 10, 1998
Rapture Dates Come & Go...and the beat goes on...
This is an open letter to all who said 'I told you so' and scoff at the recent rapture predictions by Marilyn Agee and others.
Guys, I sincerely doubt if the motivation behind these predictions of a possible rapture of the Church were inspired by Satan. You can't read Mrs. Agee's website and books and come away with any other conclusion than she is a child of God with inspired teaching whose only motivation is in getting people saved and the body of Christ to walk a more holy walk. I wish all my motivations were this pure, don't you?
If you took issue with her interpretation of scripture or the question of whether we will know the time of the rapture or not, that's fine. But to slam her and align her with Satan and accuse her of turning people away from Jesus Christ is ridiculous. She always said, "this is how I believe it to be, search the scriptures to see if it is so."
There are several things I don't agree with or do not fully understand about all of her writings. Guess what..there are several things I still don't understand about the Bible and how God moves or why He doesn't move. Do you? But I was very much in expectation on May 31st and on June 7 to go be with the best friend I've ever had. One Pastor once told a story about Enoch and his rapture and said that God and Enoch were very close friends and visited often. One day when it was time to go home the Lord looked at Enoch and said 'Hey, my home is closer, let's go there." I was ready to go to His home that day. I still am.
Were there some that were disappointed and discouraged? I'm sure there were..I was one of them. I truly hoped it was the time, it lit a fire under me to reach out and touch people more than ever. But my faith in Jesus Christ did not hinge on His coming for me when Marilyn said He might. I wish He would have but since He didn't, I continue to walk, go about my Father's business while looking forward to that blessed event. Before I ever studied Mrs. Agee's books, the Lord impressed me the time was short and opened my eyes to how perverse and twisted our world is becoming without Him. If He should tarry, what is it to you...or to me? Like the Lord, I don't want anyone to come to damnation. If Marilyn was a wakeup call then we should all continue the work and stop pointing fingers and bickering.
Has someone lost faith or stumbled because of her prediction? If so let's pick them up and try to get them going again. Paul says 'some follow this one or that one but there is only one true God'. I don't remember any other who was crucified and rose from the dead. I read lots of books by lots of different people and have found some error in all of them, Grant Jeffrey, Van Impe, Sumerall, Hagin and other popular writers. I weed out the wheat from the chaff and learn from them all. But in the end, we all must rely on the Holy Spirit to teach us and lead us into all understanding.
On the predicted date, my family and I were ready and full of joy at the thought of going wondering what it would be like. I closed my eyes and imagined a great force ripping me from this world into paradise. How wondrous it would have been..and will be. I hope it will be soon as this world has very little future to offer us. I saw a picture of an Albanian child who couldn't be any older than my 4 year old, crying and terrified as his family fled their city. I was so mad to think what if that were my child and I was helpless to do anything about it. I would have done anything to end the suffering if it were my family. The killing, lying, stealing and terror going on in the world must make our Father just as angry and protective for His children. He must be just as anxious to end this madness as we are.
In the words of the ever brave and inspiring Dan Rather, in a moment reminiscent of Churchill, to the little people of CBS News as they faced layoffs....."Courage" (I'm sure it was enough to get them through!)
In the inspired words of Churchill, "Never, never, never, never, never give up!"
In the Holy Spirit inspired words of the Word "Have faith in God"
Incoming Email Thank you so very much, Marilyn, for responding! You are gracious when you are as overwhelmed with e mail as I know you are! I agree with the woman who stated that we all feel great affection for you and appreciate deeply your scholarship! God Bless! My joy increases daily in anticipation of His soon Coming!! See you there, rejoicing!! In His Love
My reply Well. The 14th isn't here yet, but I'm hoping for that day. This is our "blessed hope," isn't it. I'm an incurable hoper.
Thanks for your kindness. I can't wait to meet you all in Heaven. What a day that will be. I've never been very good at remembering names down here. Hope we just know everyone when we get up there.
Incoming Email I just wanted to send a little word of encouragement and let you know that we are praying for you. We so appreciate that you have continued to post email and your updates on your website. I pray that you will continue to do so UNTIL HE COMES!! Whenever that may be!! I am thankful to belong to a church that is watching and praying, but I know from past experience that many are not so fortunate. The few sites on the internet that are lights in the darkness, proclaiming His soon return are such an encouragement for those who long to have fellowship with other believers who are watching! The signs are all around us! Surely it won't be long until we hear the trumpet sound, but I am certain that He will keep in His grace those who love His appearing, no matter how long the delay. We appreciate you so much. In His love
My reply Thanks. I sure am hoping big for the 14th, the last Sunday of spring.
Incoming Email News Briefs
Roman Catholic Church And Islamic Leaders Agree To Long-Awaited Dialogue
05/31/98 (note: look at the date)
The Roman Catholic Church has reached a landmark agreement on promoting a dialogue between Christians and Muslims. After four years of negotiations, the first joint Christian-Islamic committee in history has been established to begin dialogue between the two religious groups.
The long-awaited agreement was reached between Islam's most prestigious and scholarly institution, Al-Azhar University and Mosque, and the Vatican's council for inter-religious dialogue, headed by Cardinal Francis Arinze.
The Al-Azhar is the leading centre for Islam's Sunni division, which comprises 90 percent of the world's approximate one billion Muslims.
The joint committee will now work to encourage co-operation between the two religious belief systems. Correspondents said the agreement marks a further improvement in relations between the Vatican and Islam. Both religions were once on a collision course because of their intense competition for new converts in some parts of the world. BBC News, Reuters
Incoming Email Fwd:Rapture is Sooner than you Think
Friends, I received this message from a friend who is an anointed pastor. Let's get down on our knees & pray like Jesus at Gethsemane! Please share this with other Christian friends. God bless you!
> dear lawrence,
> got all your messages....there is a purpose for the
delay..but we shouldn't take this grace period for granted. Perhaps
the best position for the church is to go down on their knees praying,
repenting and worshiping God. Perhaps christians need to have
Gethsemane experience like Jesus.
> Luke 12:32..Jesus said," Do not fear , little flock, for it
is your Father's good pleasure to give you the kingdom."...notice
Jesus mentioned little flock. Looks like Noah and his family were little
flocks that was saved. This was the message I received during monday prayer..
> Keep watch....God bless.
Incoming Email Re: THREE DAYS
Dear Marilyn, You have some really important points here. Wish I knew when to expect the third day. This is the recounting of ---'s dream of early this morning:
--- called this AM and related her dream in the early morning hours. She dreamed that she was sitting in the back row of a movie house wondering why she had gone to see this movie, "The Perfect Murder" with Michael Douglas. She thought, "This movie is full of violence and vulgarity. I don't want to see it." Then she realized that the ground was shaking and that her body was changing. She began to float upward in the theater until her head bumped against the ceiling. She looked around the full movie house and did not see anyone else rising at first, but slowly three or four others began to rise. One of them bumped the ceiling with force. Cindy wondered why no one in the packed theater seemed to be paying attention to these four or five people floating near the ceiling. The rest were completely oblivious to the changing body activity.
It occurred to her that even though they had their glorified bodies they would not be leaving the earth right away but needed to remain for a short while because of things that they had to do. Then she woke up.
She said that the dream was not crammed with information as her prior rapture dream was, but was interesting nevertheless.
--- has had prophetic dreams all of her life. For instance when she was about 13 she awoke from a dream in which her father's house was on fire and she saw her stepmother crying. That very afternoon that house caught fire and burned completely with most of the contents. Even the brick walls had to be torn down because the intense heat had damaged the mortar. She has had several other prophetic dreams that came true shortly afterwards, so I listen when she reports a dream that sounds significant.
I firmly believe that we are in the final countdown and that the rapture will occur before long, possibly this year, as has been speculated. One day the prognosticators will be correct. God bless you.
Incoming Email I keep encouraging myself in the Lord to stay focused on the nearness of the Rapture. The Lord has repeatedly reminded me that His coming is VERY soon. In answer to my prayer inquiry of why hasn't it happened; IHe seems to say there are still some that need to come to Him first. We can hasten His return by witnessing, and winning souls; also we should be praying for the Rapture to occur! "Ye have not because ye ask not". My personality is not the type that can stay at the ready' for extended periods of time. I pray that as I read His Word, He will keep me anticipating His soon return. Looking for His appearing is very important. I feel ready except I'm still struggling with the sin of gluttony.
Next week, (6/15-19) is Vacation Bible School at our (Methodist) church. I will be teaching 1st and 2nd grades. I haven't taught children in years (decades). I feel inadequate, but volunteered because I'm very concerned for the salvation of the children and youth in our church. My husband and I both felt strongly that the Lord wanted us to transfer to this church. In the 1* years we've been there, I don't think I've heard the words believe', saved', sin', repent', etc., etc.. The VBS material is on five of Jesus' parables, but needs to be edited' severely to present the plan of salvation. Pray that I will be able to adapt it so that it is interesting, the children will listen, understand their need of a Savior and receive Jesus into their heart and life.
My reply I pray that you remain steadfast and ready, especially through this weekend. You may not be here to teach that class. If you are, I pray that you are effective. In Jesus' name, Amen.
Incoming Email Greetings sister, God's peace be with you. I just felt I should share my feeling on the return of Christ for his church. I believe he will come at a time when people are saying, "Where is your great God? Why hasn't he come back yet?" The year 2000 is constantly be hyped up as a year of great events. If the Lord hasn't returned for his church by that year, won't people become sceptacle and say things like that. Isn't there a verse in the bible that he will come at a time when scoffers roam the earth making statements like the one...?
My reply I have hopes for June 14, the last Sunday of spring. Stay ready and watching. People are already saying things like that.
Incoming Email I was considering the "third watch" theory and then it struck me. We have overwhelming evidence that the number three stands for resurrection and aside from Christ's own resurrection the rapture will be the biggest and most fantastic ever.
I'd like to share some interesting insights the Bible offers with respect to the number three. It could shed light on a "third Penecost" being the time of resurrection. Because there is such an abundance of examples I will state only a portion of them and I will try to keep it concise. This information was taken from Don Kistler's book THE ARITHMETIC OF GOD.
Jesus tells us in Matt 12:40 "For as Jonas was three days and three nights in the whale's belly; so shall the Son of man be three days and three nights in the heart of the earth." Here are two examples of a resurrection after 3 days.
During Jesus' personal ministry He raised three from the dead. He raised the son of the widow of Nain (Luke 7:15); He raised the daughter of the ruler Jairus (Luke 8:41-55); and He raised Lazarus of Bethany. (John 11:1-3)
When he called Lazarus forth from the grave He spoke three words, "Lazarus come forth." These are also three words in the Greek language and the third one of these has just three letters. There were three members in the family of Lazarus. (John 11:1-3)
When the Sadducees asked Jesus about the resurrection of the seven men who had married the same woman it was recorded three times, Matt 22:22-32, Mark 12:18-27 and Luke 20:27-38. The book of John did not include this conversation. This was to show the number three as the number connected with Resurrection. Three times Jesus said of those who came to Him and believed in Him, "I will raise him up at the last day." John 6:40, John 6:44 and John 6:54. In the transfiguration scene when Moses and Elijah had appeared with HIm and spoke of His death (Luke 9:28-31), He took with three of His disciples; Peter, James and John, to witness the event. In connection with his trail and death, Jesus was denied three times by Peter. He was tried before three courts: Sanhedrin, Pilate, and Herod. He was crucified with two others making three crosses. The inscription above Him was in three languages; Hebrew, Geeek and Latin. The sun darkened for three hours. Three women went to His grave the morning of his resurrection; Mary Magdalene, Mary the Mother of James, and Salome. The third time Jesus manifested Himself to His desciples after His resurrection there was a miraculous draught of fish numbering 153. (John 21:2-14) The 14th verse shows that this was the third time Jesus showed Himself to His disciples after His resurrection. One hundred fifty-three divided by three equals 51. Divide 51 by three again the the third manifestation is 17, the number for Victory. Seventeen is the number for Victory and the day of the month our Lord rose from the dead. Now for the Old Testament: There were only three persons raised to life again in the Old Testament; Elisha raised the dead child of the widow of Zaraphath. Elisha stretched his body over the body of the child three times. Elisha also raised the dead child of the Shunammite woman after he 1. put his mouth on the child's mouth, 2. his eyes on the child's eyes and 3. his hand on the child's hand. The third Old Testament resurrection was when a young man was restored to life after his body was let down into the grave of the prophet Elisha. In verse 18 of II Kings 13 you'll see a king striking the ground three times with an arrow. Why does the number three always appear when a resurrection has been performed? Surely, it's the Lord's will!
Israel killed their first Passover lambs, a type of Jesus, and three days later they journeyed through the Red Sea where there is a figure of death and resurrection.
Abraham offered up his son and received him from the dead in a figure. They were three days journeying to the place of offering.
Aaron's rod which bore buds, blossoms, and almonds is a figure of the resurrection. It was a dead stick then in the order in which new life appears it put forth a bud, then a bloom then fruit all at the same time.
There are countless more examples that I could write but this should suffice as overwhelming evidence that when God talks of, writes about or performs a resurrection it is always in connection with threes. This is food for thought about the resurrection of the dead in Christ and the rest of us. Finally, "For the Lord himself shall descend from heaven with a SHOUT, and with the VOICE of the Archangel, and with the TRUMP of God: and the dead in Christ shall rise first: Then we which are alive and remain shall be caught up together with them in the clouds, to meet the Lord in the air: and so shall we ever be with the Lord." Praise God!!! Thank you for your time in considering this. Like others I did not experience any dissappointment, just peace after the 31st and the 7th. I will be keeping the third watch just as intently, knowing that His timing is perfect. I hope you are getting some well deserved rest. With love, your sister in Christ
My reply Thanks. We are on the same wave length about three. I am sure hoping for June 14, the last Sunday of spring. Song of Solomon 2:11 says "winter is past," not spring is past. Keep ready and watching.
Incoming Email I was wondering what your opinion was on this coming weekend. I know God said that it would be as the days of Noah when he returned so I have been looking in Genesis when noah and his family were in the ark. I noticed that noah sent out the dove three times and after the third time it never returned and also in Luke 12:37-38 It talks about if He should come in the second watch or come in the third watch and find them so, blessed are those servents. Noah also sent the dove out 7 days apart 3x. Our First and second rapture dates were 7 days apart and as the dove was looking for land we are looking for the savior. Could 7 more days on Sunday the 14th be the rapture date or the third watch and also it is the last Sunday in spring for the first fruits rapture....Thanks Love in Christ, Wendy
Also I found this verse to be very helpful to me as a Christian about feeling as though I haven't done enough for God
"Do not labor for the food which perishes, but for the food which endures to everlasting life, which the Son of Man will give you, because God the Father has set his seal on Him. Then they said to Him,"What shall we do, THAT WE MAY WORK THE WORKS OF GOD"? Jesus answered and said to them, "This is the work of God,THAT YOU BELIEVE IN HIM WHOM HE SENT."
"And he that overcometh, and KEEPETH MY WORKS unto the end, to him will I give power over the nations: and he shall rule them with a rod of iron; as the vessels of a potter shall they be broken to shivers; even as I received my Father,And I will give him the morning star.
Incoming Email Larry wrote:
> Dear Marilyn,
>Their is zero, I repeat ZERO, scriptural basis for the third
> watch thing you picked up after your TWO failed attempts to predict
> the rapture, and you know it! The individual who wrote you with the
> third watch thing just couldn't believe it hadn't happened. Grasping
> at straws, believing anything in order to keep the dream alive.
> You have failed these people who have depended on you. You should have
> just said that you were wrong. This individual deserves to be told the
> truth, that his third watch theory is simply not in the scripture he
> quoted. He should have been told by you!, but, you have failed in your
> responsibility to God. You have not rightly divided the word of truth,
> as we have been commanded to do. I quoted you a scriptural warning in
> my last E-Mail, but it was incomplete, here is the rest of it. To you
> Marilyn J. Agee it is a curse, but a curse that you have brought upon
> yourself. Read the words of the Lord to you.
> Rv:22:18: For I testify unto every man that heareth the words of the
> prophecy of this book, If any man shall add unto these things, God
> shall add unto him the plagues that are written in this book:
> Rv:22:19: And if any man shall take away from the words of the book
> of this prophecy, God shall take away his part out of the book of
> life, and out of the holy city, and from the things which are written
> in this book.
My reply I pray Lord for Larry, that you will not hold this against him. He thinks he is doing the right thing, even if he isn't. I pray that he goes in the Pre-Trib Rapture. In Jesus' name, Amen.
Larry, I have leaned over backward to be certain all my quotes of Scripture were right. I have not added anything to Scripture at all. The Rapture may well take place this weekend, and you will remember what you said. I forgive you and hope the Lord does too. I would not want you to be left behind because of this.
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