Pro and Con 124, Uploaded 6-13-98
Incoming Email Dream
Dear Marilyn, Can't wait to tell you this. ----'s youngest, 5 year old --- has been a born-again Christian for a couple of years (we start them young). All of her life she has gone to sleep listening to taped Jesus worship songs. She witnesses freely to anyone and everyone; totally open about her love for Jesus. When she's in public she blurts out things like, "Thank you Jesus that it isn't raining", etc. ---- has often asked her what she dreamed and --- always says, "I don't have dreams."
Tonight in the car on the way home --- said, "Mom, I want to tell you about my dream. I dreamed that we were looking for Jesus. We opened one door and he was not there. We opened another door and he wasn't there either. Then we opened the next door and there was a great big light and there was Jesus!"
--- was totally unaware of any discussion about the third watch, the third day, the third weekend, etc.
That dream surely made ----, ---- and me happy!
Incoming Email Three Days...I've been "bothered" by this three day thing too. I have to find time to study this later today. Scripture is such a puzzle, but with the Holy Spirit's help, maybe the next piece will soon fit in place.
Also, I wanted to thank you again for having this web page. It has been so wonderful to read the other messages people have sent you. I feel for the person who said they needed to find a church that was like-minded. The pastor in the Lutheran church I attend will not even consider prophecy. He gave a sermon a couple of weeks ago based on a few verses in Revelations. He had the interpretation of it totally wrong (he said John's vision of the multitude that came out of the tribution was a glimpse of heaven in John's time) and he won't listen to any correction from me. I feel bad for him as he has a special responsibility as a shepherd of a flock to teach us the truth. I think he is afraid that he will look like some fanatical cult leader if he says anything about prophecy. The world has certainly put church leaders in a rough spot. If the Rapture doesn't happen soon, I too will need to look for another church. I also can understand the woman who said her husband thinks she is crazy for believing all of this. Since I accepted Jesus as my Savior in October 1993, my Roman Catholic husband thinks I have gone over the edge. He is tolerant of me, but does not want to be included in any of it. I love him and our three sons dearly, but I love Jesus more. This surely is a time of waiting, sifting, & remaining faithful. To God by the glory
Incoming Email I just wanted to tell you that I am still having a terrible time with my trigeminal neuralgia (tic douloureaux). I felt that the Lord was telling me that I wouldn't have to worry about it much longer because I would get a new face at the Rapture. I still feel that way and am hoping that it will not be too much longer. The only way this thing is treated is by medicine with many side effects or an operation to decompress the nerve in my head. So you can see why I am so looking forward to the Rapture. There really is a special blessing for those who are awaiting His appearance and I know I'll get that blessing because I am so looking for Him to appear in the clouds. I know that your books have provided an awaking for all those who read them and your website.. Keep on writing - until He COMES.
uhh, I really am unsure about your supposed time because we have the conflict of time zones and the international dateline. The way I see it it has to happen at about 4:00 am your time because the international date line would be at around that time 12:00. Can you please explain to me why you honestly think that the rapture is bound to happen at 12:00 everywhere if I read you correctly. What that means is that the rest of the world would know about it many hours before it really happens and it would delay the shock value of the rapture. In today's world the shock value of the rapture is what I see the most. I reckon that there would be massive chaos and hysteria just like what was on that movie "Independence Day." Thank you
My reply I think it will be all at once, at night in Jerusalem.
Incoming Email We are waiting in South Africa too. Also a lot of people mock because it did not happened. We had a "MAKE BELIEF" week before 31/5 with a tremendous effect on our people.
I however told them from the beginning always to remember that our hope is not in a "DATE" but in "JESUS CHRIST OUR LORD" We may look and search for dates that might or might not come true, but one thing became a reality stronger than ever before : HE IS COMING BACK AND WANTS US TO BE READY AND EXPECT HIM Hold on, i dont think it is too long now.
Greetings---from THE CAPE OF GOOD HOPE IN S.A.
My reply I am hoping for this weekend, June 14, the last Sunday of spring, 1998.
Incoming Email You're a rock. I can't imagine what some of the e-mail you're receiving and not publishing looks like. Stand.
My "teacher" of Biblical prophecy is the Rev. Harry Powell (long deceased - I never had the chance to meet him in person), author of God's Time Frame, The Essence of Prophecy. The next time someone accuses you of "... false revelation", you might quote him this:
"Revelation is the fact of divine truth communicated by God directly to a man. Revelation is God's objective truth. This truth has its existence completely independent of the mind and emotions of man. ... Since revelation is this objective truth of God communicated by God directly to a man, man received it just as God gives it: truth for truth, word for word, and line upon line. It is truth unmixed with error. It is truth in its purest form. [i.e., revelation ended with the end of the book of Revelation]
Inspiration is when that same divine, objective truth, which has been received by revelation, is now communicated to another; be it written or spoken, in the same purity with which it was received from God. This is accomplished by the super-imposed influence and power of the Holy Spirit of God. Inspiration is the communication of revelation, and is absolutely error free, under the providential guidance of Sovereign God.
Preservation is the work and promise of God that his truth would not fail, ever. It is because of this truth of preservation that today one can trust the Bible. ... The Bible is God's REVEALED truth, INSPIRED in its written form, and PRESERVED for you by God's own providential care and oversight."
Preceding accompanied by SIGNS. I coined the acronym RIPS for the preceding for my Bible classes. God spoke to Moses [revelation], Moses to Aaron [inspiration], Aaron to Pharaoh [preservation].
The peace treaty by August (!). Who do you think will be the signatories? Rev. Powell (and I) am firmly convinced that there is a strong possibility that the Beast could be American.
My reply With over 500 emails in my Inbox, I can't begin to answer them all, much less publish them all. I try to choose ones of general interest, people that need help, people with good ideas about these days of delay, etc. Actually, there are very few negative ones in comparison to all the emails that come in. I don't have room on my Web site or energy to put up everything. I am only one person working as hard as I can go.
If nothing happens at any time? The possibility lies that nothing will happen -- what will you do then? What if nothing happens ever?
Thanks for allowing me this message
My reply It will. Scripture is God breathed. It cannot lie. Our understanding can be faulty but the Scripture is rock-hard truth, the only real truth we have to go by.
Incoming Email GOD BLESS. Hello again, I wrote to encourage you after May 31st, I have followed along on your Website for these 2 weeks, I mentioned my dream in my first e-mail, but I didn't want to talk about it. Or write about it, as you can tell by my short e-mail. Every time I have mentioned it to anyone I've been looked at as if I'm deluded, but today, after reading through your Pros & Cons I feel compelled, or am lead by the spirit, to write to you about the dream I had about the rapture. I've seen some ask on your site "I wonder how it will be....", other expressed fear or other feelings removed from what I felt in my dream, well, I tell you ,it is a wondrous thing.
Here is my dream: I was standing on a hillside viewing the valley below, with homes along the slopes and I was talking to someone, someone close to me, suddenly I feel a breeze on my face and am not on the hillside anymore, but flying up and I realize this is the rapture, I have a fraction of a second of regret for that person close to me being left behind, for I KNOW she's being left behind, then I look and see what look like "upside down" candle flames rising from all along the valley. I see them as candle flames because they are so bright. All this takes place in a matter of seconds. All these spirits are heading into a "hole" in the clouds? sky? The peace, joy, excitement in knowing we'll be seeing our Lord Jesus is so great it took my breath away. No fear, no thinking about those left behind, just the awesome love that permeates all I am. I wake up with the feeling of peace, with tears in my eyes for the joy. I still feel all that today when I think of that dream and I know this was from Our Father. He sent me this dream because as a new Christian I was afraid for my loved ones. I feel he has always embraced me when I felt fear. "DO NOT FEAR" is the one command he gives most in the gospels. Marilyn, I'm not one that can quote scriptures, I just now started studying in depth The Word, my choice of study was the exalted, majestic power of The Blood of Christ, maybe I'll finish it, maybe I won't, because that blood is what is going to make possible us to go to Him. I thank you for your work, I know you have changed many lives for the better, mine included (I quit smoking after I read your date of May, 31st among other amazing things), God Bless you and see you soon in Heaven. Your Sister in Christ
Incoming Email I was reading the latest p/c's and as I did I seem to remember you had written 3 book's. How ironic.... I am sure the time is close, and as many as your readers and contributers have been saying, I often have to grin, because the feelings and experiences in they have had, are the same I have felt.... keep the WATCH all, for the time is close.... HE is right at the door, will you let HIM in???
Incoming Email Thank you so much Marilyn, God has used you so much, and your studies and diligence has encouraged my whole family! I keep anxiously awaiting each day for His coming to take the watchful away with Him. Since reading your studies, I have told some close friends the specifics of your studies and all seem to acknowledge His imminent return. The rest of the bunch I tell them to get ready, for He is coming soon and why should you wonder if your going or not, just get right with God. I try to let the Spirit lead my words and do so in a loving way. It is hard for some though. I read what you and some others have wrote and prayed about for Chris, don't let him discourage you or anyone else for that matter. He is as the swine talked about in Matt 7:6. Our prayers for him however are not in vain. I pray for you Marilyn that God strengthens you and uses you to the fullest of His will. I praise God that He sent you to do these specific studies as to prepare and teach the flock. For God is not willing for any to perish and I personally think your ministry is reaching many! Praise God! Your fellow brother in Christ Jesus
My reply I appreciate your prayers for strength. I have plenty faith and spiritual strength, plenty of determination, plenty of hope, plenty of staying power for the long haul if that is what it takes.
When I took to the bed, cold and shaking with pneumonia, just before Christmas, my daughter told my husband, "That's not like Mom, unless she has pneumonia." How right she was. I shivered and shook Fri., Sat., Sun. and four hours in Urgent Care Monday before I knew it truly was pneumonia, in both lungs. One thing in this life I don't have to be sorry for is wasting time. I have wasted very little, taken few breaks. I am a hard worker. What I lack is physical strength to accomplish the task set before me now.
I have worked through pain ever since I was 30, am 69 now, but the intensity of that muscular pain when it builds to high levels can be distracting. I need my mouse arm and hand to hold out to the end. Neck, shoulder and hand are very painful and the hand is weak. My writing is getting shaky. I need strength and dexterity to learn to use my new track ball efficiently. It is like learning to skate. I need control in spite of turning sensitivity and speed down. So far, it and the Aleve are helping the arm somewhat. Now for the hand. I literally feel like Rev. 3:8: "thou hast a little strength."
Incoming Email Saturn Calling
Saturn rises over Jerusalem horizon at 01.44 (natural time) (01.43.50 trying to be very precise)If daylight saving is taken into consideration it is 02.44 am (and of course I think it is in use in most countries.) Saturn rises about from east (north east east I would say) So when you convert to your local time 02.44 am is the starting point.
There are no visible conjuntions. Just about full moon rises first ( in Capricorn) then Jupiter and then Saturn as THIRD.
MARILYN--HERE IS THE SECOND WORD:
THIS IS THE TIME. NOW IS THE TIME FOR LOOKING UP AND KNOWING THE REVEALED AND THE CONCEALED.DO NOT DESPISE THE SMALL BEGINNINGS FOR I AM ALPHA AND OMEGA, THE BEGINNING AND THE END. BLESSED ARE THOSE WHO LOOK INTO THE THINGS WRITTEN FOR REVEALING AND UNDERSTANDING IN THE LAST DAYS. THOSE DAYS ARE NOW HERE AND CAN BE DISCERNED BY THOSE WATCHING. DO NOT TURN AWAY NOW FROM THE REVELATION, FOR THE UNSEEN AND THE SEEN ARE BOTH COMING TOGETHER AND CAN BE SEEN TOGETHER. THIS IS FOR THE GENERATION THAT HAS COME AND FOR ONE YET TO COME. KNOW THIS, THAT FROM THE SEED PLANTED IN IGNORANCE, THE HARVEST WILL BE IN KNOWLEDGE, BY THOSE WHO ARE REJECTED OF MEN. GO QUICKLY--- DESPISE NOT THE SMALL BEGINNINGS, FOR NOW IS THE TIME OF DELIVERANCE WHICH WAS SOWN IN FAITH AND IS BEING REAPED IN HOPE. LOOK UP FOR REDEMPTION DRAWS NEAR. END OF WORD.
PLEASE NOTE THAT THE FIRST WORD SENT TO YOU YESTERDAY-THURSDAY- MENTIONED THREE DAYS. ARE THESE THREE DAYS TO END ON THIS COMING SUNDAY?? SUNDAY WOULD BE THE THIRD DAY FROM THURSDAY. BOTH WORDS TOGETHER MENTION "THE VISION" AND "THE REVELATION". RE WORD #2: IN REVELATION CHAPTER 1 JESUS APPEARS TO JOHN IN A VISION AND SAYS HE IS ALPHA AND OMEGA--THE BEGINNING AND THE ENDING. REV. CHAPTER 1 IS VISION OF THE RAPTURE. RE "THE GENERATION THAT HAS COME AND FOR THE ONE YET TO COME"...JOHN WROTE IN REV. 1:19 " WRITE THE THINGS WHICH THOU HAST SEEN, AND THE THINGS WHICH ARE, AND THE THINGS WHICH SHALL BE HEREAFTER." IS THE GENERATION "YET TO COME" THE ONE AFTER THE RAPTURE?? RE " GO QUICKLY"-- IN REV. 1:11 AMPLIFIED "WRITE PROMPTLY WHAT YOU SEE..." I BELIEVE THE THREE DAYS ARE THREE SUNDAYS FROM MAY 31ST..THE THIRD SUNDAY BEING JUNE 14TH. THIS WOULD BE THE THIRD "DAY"..AS IN "LORD'S DAY". HOSEA 6:1-4 SAYS AFTER 2 DAYS HE WILL REVIVE US AND ON THE THIRD DAY WE SHALL LIVE IN HIS SIGHT.I SAY PROVE ALL THINGS. HOLD FAST TO THAT WHICH IS GOOD AND TRUE.
MARILYN--THE PHRASE IN WORD #2 RE " THE SEED PLANTED IN IGNORANCE" I BELIEVE REFERS TO THE CRUCIFIXION OF JESUS SINCE THE ROMANS WERE IGNORANT OF WHAT THEY WERE DOING. JESUS SAID UNLESS A SEED FALLS IN THE GROUND IT ABIDES ALONE..BUT IF IT IS PLANTED IN THE GROUND IT CAN BEAR MUCH FRUIT (KNOWLEDGE).
Incoming Email Just wanted to thank you for all your inspirational studying and material. Your work has been an eye opener to me to say the least! Not only that, but I believe it! The Spirit dwelling inside of me (the Comforter), convinces me that your work is right on. Your web page, I noticed, brings in the gentlest of hearts and spirits. Even the ones who say "it can't be so!" are loved more than they will ever know. They will look at your web site, form an opinion, and probably move on. However what they don't realize is, it was the Lord Jesus who sent them to your web page. A seed was sown. How can He do that? Simple for Him. After all, He owns us. Bought and paid for with his precious blood! When I started to realize in my life that "I don't own me-Christ does!", I started to realize why certain things happen to me in my life. The "Good", and what I would consider to be the "Bad". Both are approved by God. (Remember Job?) Both are for various reasons. Number one is for the Glory of God. He is using us to show many,many angels what life would be like for eternity, in Heaven, if he allowed the rebellion that took place, not out of love or righteousness, but out of pride and envying, to come to pass. The most unimaginable horror that the angels who love God can think of, is to be cast out of his presence. That's why some of them now "tremble" at the sight of God. He loves the ones that didn't rebel with Satan so much, that he lovingly is showing them, through us, why it is necessary for the rebels to be cast out. Remember, they all sang together, as one, and shouted for joy in the presence of the Creator. What a powerful and joyfull sight! What love! What unity! What peace! But somthing happened. Somthing to bring an end to all that. Sin. The highest of all the angels entered into a "different place" in his heart. Can you imagine? It's frightening to think about it! Evil was conceived right there with Satan. God is so loving and wants all of us to have free will. He allowed the rebellion to take place. But he also now requires sides to be chosen. He knows the outcome of sin. He will not allow it to reside with Him forever. Thank you Lord for being so loving. We live on a sinful earth and I for one don't like it. Too much stress and sorrow without You. I know. When I'm away from You in my heart, I feel and experience those things. When I am praying and in Your presence through the Spirit, I feel Your peace and joy and I am in awe! For we humans, God knows our suffering. He was here, with us. He name was Jesus. Now there is love. The one who made everything, the one who created the angels, the one who created the life and movement of everything seen and not seen, actually pronounced the judgment of death for sin. You cannot lie in Heaven. That seemingly little thing to us, is a big problem with God. After what happened in Heaven though, we can see why. Satan lied to himself and things went downhill from there. Well guess what? I have lied too! A lot more than I care to admit. But I'd better admit it(confess it). God said if I repent and believe He died for me on the cross in Jerusalem almost two thousand years ago, then He will accept me into his family. I believe Him and thank Him. What a gift! Not only that, but we will be higher than angels for going through this life. I read in one of your pro and cons from Chris, that we believe to save our own skins. Actually thats a pretty good reason. But after you think about it who wouldn't want to be with their loving Father? I don't know about you, but my love doesn't come close to His.
I was wondering if these scriptures might have any meaning or be somehow related to the rapture. The new moon will be on June 23rd.
1Sam:20:5: And David said unto Jonathan, Behold, to morrow is the new moon, and I should not fail to sit with the king at meat: but let me go, that I may hide myself in the field unto the third day at even, I got a little excited. Could the Lord be telling me the rapture may be during a new moon?
Then I read:
1Sam:20:18: Then Jonathan said to David, To morrow is the new moon: and thou shalt be missed, because thy seat will be empty. And of course what happened to David?
1Sam:20:24: So David hid himself in the field: and when the new moon was come, the king sat him down to eat meat. After reading this I looked for another confirmation about the new moon.
Ps:81:3: Blow up the trumpet in the new moon, in the time appointed, on our solemn feast day. That sounds like a type of rapture to me. I noticed it says blow "up" the trumpet.
Then in Ezek:46:1:
Thus saith the Lord GOD; The gate of the inner court that looketh toward the east shall be shut the six working days; but on the sabbath it shall be opened, and in the day of the new moon it shall be opened.
Ezek:46:3: Likewise the people of the land shall worship at the door of this gate before the LORD in the sabbaths and in the new moons.
In Amos:8:5, It sounds like the deceitful can't wait for the believers to get out of here so they can do their evil!
Amos:8:5: Saying, When will the new moon be gone, that we may sell corn? and the sabbath, that we may set forth wheat, making the ephah small, and the shekel great, and falsifying the balances by deceit?
God is more than we can imagine!
My reply Thanks for your kind comments. You know, we are all supposed to love the brethren. If the love of God is in us, it should flow between us and other Christians. There is something real about Christian fellowship that the world does not understand. Beyond that, we are to love our neighbor as ourselves. That includes everyone. God loves everyone. We should too. We can hate things they do, but we should love the person and hope that they can be saved.
My calendar has the new moon on Wed., the 24th. That is summer. If Song of Solomon 2:11 applies, the Rapture is in spring, when "winter is past."
> Ps:81:3: Blow up the trumpet in the new moon, in the time appointed, on our
> solemn feast day. That sounds like a type of rapture to me. I noticed it
> says blow "up" the trumpet. Then in Ezek:46:1:
> Thus saith the Lord GOD; The gate of the inner court that looketh toward the
> east shall be shut the six working days; but on the sabbath it shall be
> opened, and in the day of the new moon it shall be opened.
I think the verse in Psalms refers to Rapture II. I think the verse in Ezekiel refers to Nisan 1, the first day of the Regnal year, the Second Advent.
Incoming Email give up! (MUR2613...
You are a horrible woman...you are WRONG WRONG WRONG WRONG!!!! The Rapture didn't happen on May 31st or June 7th like you said and they are for sure not going to happen June 14th or June 21st!! NOBODY KNOWS THE DAY OR HOUR! Get that through your tiny little brain. The Bible says that plain and simple. I hope you are enjoying your humble pie, because it looks like you have two more helpings of it coming in the next two weeks.
My reply Let the Lord judge between me and thee.
Incoming Email Hello Marilyn, And God bless you, Yes, He is coming, and I want you to know there is a lot of us disappointed because He didn't come the last two weeks, but that does not mean He isn't coming, He is and we are with you and will watch with you until He calls us up. I am not in the least discouraged, But I truly thank you for all of your articles. They have made me more aware of His coming than I have ever been in my life and more anxious.
Incoming Email Here's another reference to the THIRD DAY: "After two days will he revive us: in the THIRD DAY he will raise us up, and we shall live in his sight" (Hosea 6:2). Also, in John chapter 21, Jesus tells the disciples "Come and dine" (John 21:12). In verse 14 it says . . . "This is now the THIRD TIME that Jesus showed himself to his disciples, after that he was risen from the dead." Notice in verse 11 it says that there were "a hundred and fifty and three" fishes. If you add all the combinations of 153, you get 1998: 135+153+315+351+513+531=1998! Is Jesus trying to tell us something in this? Time will tell . . . .soon! Watching, waiting, and praying 'till He comes! Your sister in Christ
Incoming Email You may want to add this new information to your website. I was studying various words associated with the rapture and have come up with some amazing results! I used my Hebrew/English software to calculate the gematria value of these words: "third watch" "June 14 1998" "bride of Christ" "virgin" "God's trumpet" Each word has a different gematria value. However, when I apply the Trinity Function (abc = a x a x a + b x b x b + c x c x c) the Image Value is equal to the number 370! This is very significant! Why? Because 370 is a terminal number; it cannot be further processed. Also, the arithmetic meaning of "3" is "resurrection" and the meaning of "7" is completeness, perfection or bringing to an end. This tells me that this "third watch" may well be the end of our waiting. When I did a study of "rapture", I came up with an Image Value of 407, which is also a terminal number. In this case, "4" means "the first creation" and "7" means "completeness, perfection or bringing to an end". Thus, "407" seems to indicate that our "first creation" (i.e., our flesh) is soon going to be brought to completeness and perfection when we get those new bodies! Please let me know your comments. You may sign me, Charlie
My reply Great. Thanks. See you in glory
Incoming Email Marilyn, You very well may be correct. We all hope so. You can't get a Sunday any closer to summer than on the 14th. It's "at the doors."
The 3s are very interesting. I'm curious: Didn't the Jews divide the night (and day) into three watches of 4 hours each, while the Romans divided it into 4 watches of 3 hours each? If so, that certainly seems to fit, and the only time that Jesus spoke of watches, he only spoke of the 2nd and 3rd, not anything about a 4th.
Thank you for all your hard work and for waking me up, restoring me. God bless you richly, Marilyn.
Incoming Email Maybe two months ago I too saw a dream about rapture - but allthough it felt very real and the speed amazed me so that I woke up - I thought it was maybe my brains just making cinema. Maybe it wasn´t. Ok whatever - I tell it now very shortly. At first I was in a place where there was water and nature. I was trying to fly (upwards). At first I made maybe two ( or three) attempts, withouth luck, but then suddenly I was caught feet first upwards at amazing speed. I saw the ´white puffy clouds´ approaching at high speed. There was a round hole in the clouds at which I went. Then I woke up.
Maybe because of that I feel that there has to be clouds.(Maybe even snow on the ground?) Somehow reminds me of those places in the Bible where snow and wool ( could it be like the puffy clouds?) are mentioned together.
Incoming Email I had said in a previous email to her:
> Life is a matter of choices. Some are good ones, some aren't. Choosing
> to stay here when the Lord has given us a way out might be one you would
> regret later on.
mmmmmm i know ---- has told me much of the ways...... i will not take the mark and i thought there was a certain number of people that will go....i would and do want to go before hell breaks loose.......but if there is a number and alot of people will be left behind then i would like others to go before me
My reply The number to go in the Pre-Trib Rapture has not been told us. Some think that the total Body of Christ will equal the 1/3 of the angels that are lost, but we do not know what that number is either. The 144,000 of Rev. 7 are Jews during the seven years of Tribulation.
Hebrews 12:25 says, "See that ye refuse not him that speaketh. For if they escaped not who refused him that spake on earth, much more shall not we ascape, if we turn away from him that speaketh from heaven."
hmmmmmmmmm well then if the number amount is great then i want to go then.......i do anyway.....but i would prefer children and such.....i want to go in the rapture.....i am a wimp and i dont honestly think i could sustain pain and suffering..... but i am not sure...it is all in Gods hands.......
My reply My heart sings to hear you say this. Thank you so much for sharing it with me. You indicated that you had accepted Christ. Be certain. If you are not, pray and tell him you accept him. Confess to God any known sins you have committed since the day you accepted Christ. It is important that you do this right away. Also, forgive others as you want to be forgiven.
Dear Heavenly Father, I agree to pray with --- that she "may be accounted worthy to escape all these things that shall come to pass, and to stand before the Son of man." I pray for her boyfriend to be included also. I am so thankful he told her about you. In Jesus' name, Amen.
(Note: God bless you all. Anxious to see you in glory. What a time that will be.)
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