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Posted 2-21-06

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Chief Rabbi Asks Dalai Lama to Help Set up Religious UN in Jerusalem, 2-19-06
http://www.israelnationalnews.com/news.php3?id=98813

(IsraelNN.com) Israel's Ashkenazi chief rabbi, Yonah Metzger, meeting with the Dalai Lama, a Buddhist monk who is the leader of Tibet, suggested that representatives of the world's religions establish a United Nations in Jerusalem, representing religions instead of nations, like the UN currently based in New York.

"Instead of planning for nuclear war and buying tanks and fighter jets, it will invest in peace," Metzger said. He later reported that the Tibetan leader was very excited about the idea and offered to help advance it....

The Coming of the First and Second Adam

By Marilyn Agee

"And so it is written, The first man Adam was made a living soul; the last Adam was made a quickening spirit. Howbeit that was not first which is spiritual, but that which is natural (Adam was created on Elul 29); and afterward that which is spiritual (Jesus was born on the next calendar date - Tishri 1). The first man is of the earth, earthy: the second man is the Lord from heaven" (1 Cor. 15:45-47).

For many years, I have thought that the Saturday that God rested after creating Adam on Friday was Tishri 1 (Sept. 18, 4044 BC). Now that I know how to correct the fourmilab Calendar Converter with their YourSky program, I decided to see if that date was exactly on the mark.

The Calendar Converter said that Saturday, Sept. 18, 4044 BC (Julian), was Tishri 3, -282 (Hebrew). We have to enter -4043 to get 4044 BC, because they the astronomer's zero year has been added.

When I went to YourSky, I found that right after sunset Friday, Sept. 17, 4044 BC, Virgo was clothed with the Sun, and the Moon was under her feet. In the view below, I can't tell if the Moon is visible, but in YourSky's white on black view, there is a tiny lighted edge of the Moon.

That made Saturday, Sept. 18, 4044 BC, Tishri 1, 282 BJE, before Jewish Era, as I thought. It's so nice to have a way to check it out. Below is the sky on Sept. 18. The crescent Moon is showing. The day of the week fits the account in Genesis.

I believe that "The first man Adam" had the breath of life blown into him on Friday, Elul 29, the last day of 283 BJE (before Jewish Era) (Sept. 17, 4044 BC, Julian) before sunset. After sunset, God rested on Saturday, Tishri 1, first day of 282 BJE.

I also believe that the "last Adam" (Jesus) was born soon after sunset on Tishri 1, 3757 (Sept. 4, 5 BC, Julian). This is the kind of correlation I expect the Lord to do. He doesn't miss an opportunity like this.

In Gen. 1:14, "God said, Let there be lights in the firmament of the heaven to divide the day from the night; and let them be for SIGNS, and for seasons, and for days, and years". God started off with a sign, the same one we read about in Rev. 12.

Rev. 12:1-5 says, "And there appeared a great wonder (semeion, sign) in heaven; a woman (Virgo) clothed with the sun, and the moon under her feet, and upon (or over) her head a crown of twelve stars (Corona Borealis): And she being with child cried, travailing in birth, and pained to be delivered....And she brought forth a man child (Jesus), who was to rule all nations with a rod of iron: and her child was caught up unto God, and to his throne."

Both the first and last Adams were brought into this world when this sign was in the sky. It looks like this sign regulates the years of the Hebrew Calendar. It took place on these dates.

Tishri 1, -282, BJE - Saturday, Sept 18, 4044 BC
Tishri 1, -281, BJE - Thursday, Oct 6, 4043 BC
Tishri 1, -280, BJE - Sunday, Sept 26, 4042 BC
Tishri 1, -279, BJE - Saturday, Sept 14, 4041 BC
Tishri 1, -278, BJE - Thursday, Oct 2, 4040 BC
Tishri 1, -277, BJE - Monday Sept 23, 4039 BC
Tishri 1, -276, BJE - Sunday, Oct 12, 4038 BC
Tishri 1, -275, BJE - Saturday, Sept 30, 4037 BC
Tishri 1, -274, BJE - Tuesday, Sept 18, 4036 BC
Tishri 1, -273, BJE - Sunday, Oct 8 4035 BC

The Moon - What Is It And Who Made It?

Ted Twietmeyer, 2-19-6
http://www.rense.com/general69/moon.htm

...the Moon provides important timing functions for tides to control Earth processes. Without tides, it is believed that the world's oceans would have almost no life, drastically affecting the food chain for our planet. Science already knows that tides control the behavior and life cycles of shore and sea-based creatures....Mechanically, the Moon also acts like a huge flywheel stabilizing the Earth's rotation. Recently the wobble in the Earth's rotation has abruptly ceased with no explanation from the science community as of this writing. Could the Moon have caused this to happen?...

...Ours is the only Moon in the solar system with a stationary, circular orbit which is almost perfectly circular. The Moon's center of gravity is approximately 6000 feet closer to the Earth than its geometric center. This should make the Moon wobble but it does not. The resultant bulge is located on the far side of the Moon, opposite the side facing our Earth. It begs to ask the question - WHO OR WHAT PUT THE MOON INTO CORRECT ORBIT? WHO OR WHAT ESTABLISHED THE PERFECT VELOCITY? THIS IS CLEARLY NO ACCIDENT....(emphasis mine)

STRANGE MOON FACTS

Compiled by Ronald Regehr
http://www.informantnews.com/starshipgamma/lunar/moon2.html

...3. Heavier Elements on Surface: Normal planetary composition results in heavier elements in the core and lighter materials at the surface; not so with the moon. According to Wilson, "The abundance of refractory elements like titanium in the surface areas is so pronounced that several geologists proposed the refractory compounds were brought to the moon’s surface in great quantity in some unknown way. They don’t know how, but that it was done cannot be questioned."...
5. Magnetic Rocks: Moon rocks were magnetized. This is odd because there is no magnetic field on the moon itself. This could not have originated from a "close call" with Earth—such an encounter would have ripped the moon apart....

13. Weird Orbit: Our moon is the only moon in the solar system that has a stationary, near-perfect circular orbit. Stranger still, the moon’s center of mass is about 6000 feet closer to the Earth than its geometric center (which should cause wobbling), but the moon’s bulge is on the far side of the moon, away from the Earth. "Something" had to put the moon in orbit with its precise altitude, course, and speed.

14. Moon Diameter: How does one explain the "coincidence" that the moon is just the right distance, coupled with just the right diameter, to completely cover the sun during an eclipse? Again, Isaac Asimov responds, "There is no astronomical reason why the moon and the sun should fit so well. It is the sheerest of coincidences, and only the Earth among all the planets is blessed in this fashion."

MY COMMENTS

Ted Twietmeyer said, "WHO OR WHAT PUT THE MOON INTO CORRECT ORBIT? WHO OR WHAT ESTABLISHED THE PERFECT VELOCITY? THIS IS CLEARLY NO ACCIDENT.

Ronald Regehr said, "SOMETHING" HAD TO PUT THE MOON IN ORBIT WITH ITS PRECISE ALTITUDE, COURSE, AND SPEED."

Of course, God did the whole thing. No one else could have done it.

In Gen 1:9 "God said, Let the waters under the heaven be gathered together unto ONE PLACE, and let the dry land appear: and it was so.

I think the Moon material was blasted out of the Pacific Basin by a chunk of Satan's planet Rahab that split apart. This would explain why Moon rocks are so very much like Earth rocks. They just lack the volatiles, which would have burned off. There is lots of breccia, made up of broken pieces of a variety of rock types. There are more glass spherules of various colors formed from melted rock than they dreamed, pointing to a tremendous explosion.

Incoming e-mail, Re: LIGHTNING ON SATURN

Isn't it nice to imagine that this was The Lord's fireworks celebration that our home in Heaven is now finished! Not that I would go around suggesting that it was ... it's just a very pleasant thought that makes me smile. Imagine our surprise and delight when we are finally able to "understand" these things.
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Scientists Studying Saturn Lightning Storm, Feb 15
http://apnews.myway.com/article/20060215/D8FPC9K8B.html

PASADENA, Calif. (AP) - Researchers are tracking a gigantic storm on Saturn that is unleashing lightning bolts more than 1,000 times stronger than those found on Earth.

Using instruments aboard the international Cassini spacecraft, scientists from the University of Iowa first spotted the storm on Jan. 23....

Researchers recorded 35 consecutive episodes since the storm was first detected. Each episode lasted about 10 hours.

It's unclear how such lightning storms originate, but scientists think it might be related to the planet's warm interior....

My reply

Thanks. This is the first time I remember seeing "the planet's warm interior" mentioned.

I hope this storm's design means that the ship Argo (meaning the company of travelers, representing the Pre-Trib Rapture group) is about to dock in Heaven. Argo is a Decan of Cancer. Saturn (Heaven) is in Cancer now, and will be there on next Pentecost. I think Argo is sailing to Saturn. I hope to be aboard on that trip. Will it be next Pentecost? It would fit Song of Solomon 2:10-14 and Isa. 18:3-6.

A new star, Nova Velorum, was seen in Vela, the sails of the ship Argo, on Sivan 7 (Pentecost), May 22, 1999. The astonishing Double-anchor Sign of Hope was seen in Vela on Sivan 6 (also Pentecost), June 9, 2000.

This thunderbolt was photographed on 4-9-02 in Taiwan. Hope you are right about the fireworks on Saturn. Love

Galactic Magnetar Throws Giant Flare

http://antwrp.gsfc.nasa.gov/apod/ap050221.html

I found this 2-17-06 - Explanation: Was the brightest Galactic blast yet recorded a key to connecting two types of celestial explosions? Last December, a dense sheet of gamma rays only a few times wider than the Earth plowed through our Solar System, saturating satellites and noticeably reflecting off the Moon. A magnetar near our Galactic Center, the source of Soft Gamma Repeater (SGR) 1806-20, had unleashed its largest flare on record. The brightness and briefness of the tremendous explosion's initial peak made it look quite similar to another type of tremendous explosion if viewed from further away -- a short duration gamma-ray burst (GRB). Short duration GRBs are thought by many to be fundamentally different than their long duration GRB cousins that are likely related to distant supernovas. Illustrated above (omitted) is a series of drawings depicting an outgoing explosion during the initial SGR spike. A fast moving wave of radiation is pictured shooting away from a central magnetar. The possible link between SGRs and GRBs should become better understood as more and similar events are detected by the Earth-orbiting Swift satellite.

Incoming e-mail, Re: English Gematria

Thank you, This article only proves how the common, everyday believer in the Lord can be caught off guard. Thank you for stressing the points that are truly derogatory to the Bible and the Lord's teachings by this author.

I sent this to you because I was not sure if what I was reading had any merit at all. You have proved that it does not and I am sincerely grateful for your wisdom and expertise in this matter.

God bless you Marilyn. You have helped me to become more aware of the subtle ways that the enemy uses to deceive us all.

God's blessings to you and Ed....Looking forward to meeting you both on that glorious day in the near future, when the Lord calls us home. YsiC

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I was searching for Dr Seyffarth and found the page (873 posted 2-23-02) with a question as to who he was. I have found he was a friend of Joseph Seiss, and his first name was Gustatavus.

Seiss was a Lutheran minister, and Seyffarth was an expert Egyptologist, among other things. I put an entry on the edit page of the Wikepedia entry for him, but don't know how to put it on the reference page. One of the things he did was to help debunk the Mormon's Book of Abraham. Very interesting research.

I was researching the connection of the planets to the vowels in the early alphabets. Seems Seyffarth's system differs from some others, but no matter - it's really a side issue.

Incoming e-mail, Re: Changing Tishri 1 AGAIN

It was not that I left out Sep 4th, I had already ruled it out in a previous message because by Sep 4th the date would have been a Tishri 2. The new crescent Moon was visible the day before on evening of Sep 3rd which would have made that date Tishri 1. Yes, I agree the Moon's position (below the feet) was better on Sep 4th even though the Moon was then in Libra and not Virgo; but, the fact remains that it would still have been Tishri 2 on the evening of Sep 4th. The determination of Tishri 1 is based on the sighting of the new crescent Moon, not on where it is located in Virgo or any other constellation. As for what the calendar programs say, they only get you close and are no guarantee of being correct no matter which one you use as you can see from the differences. You can go with what the calendar says (man made) or you can go with where the position of the Moon was and whether it was a visible new crescent Moon or not based on the astronomy of position and standards for visual sighting of a new thin crescent Moon. Based on the accepted standards, the crescent Moon of Sep 3rd, 5 BC would have been visible; however, it then would have been near Spica and not "under the feet". No matter which day you pick in Sep of 5 BC, the conditions are not going to be met, that is the point. Also, the new crescent Moon of Sep 11th, 3 BC would have been visible AND "under the feet" based on the astronomy and I think then it would have been declared as Tishri 1. Some calendar programs will disagree but its back to what you choose to accept, the calendar software or the position of the crescent Moon and its possible sighting.

Go to Your Sky and set the following dates:
Sep 11rd, 3 BC 16:16 hrs UT (equal to 18:16 Jerusalem) The sun will be 5d below the horizon, Moon up 3d in the Ephemeris data below the chart making it visible and thus Tishri 1.

Sep 3rd, 5 BC 16:25 hrs UT (equal to 18:25 Jerusalem) The sun will be 5d below the horizon, Moon up 6d in the Ephemeris data bleow the chart making it visible and thus Tishri 1.

In the "Display Options" panel of the chart, change the 'image size' to 1024 pixels, this may also help you to see the chart better. The crescent Moons are clearly visible. The important difference is that on Sep 11th, 3 BC, the Moon is "under the feet" and on Sep 3rd, 5 BC it is not. Adjusting the date to Sep 4th, 5 BC puts the Moon in Libra (still under the feet of Virgo) ; but, by then it is Tishri 2.

By Sep 12th, which is Tishri 2, the Moon has moved way to far into Libra for me to consider this "under the feet". If the bible wanted us to understand in Libra then it would have said that. "Her feet" means her as in Virgo.

Since the astronomy rules out Sep 4, 5 BC and Sep 12 is wrong, I am left with Sep 11th, 3 BC as still the only date which fits the astronomical conditions, a Tishri 1 date and the rest of the controversy about Herod, etc. is still hotly debated as you know.

My reply

I set YourSky for Sept 11, 3 BC, etc. The Crescent Moon is still inside Virgo's boundaries, which does not allow the Moon to be under Virgo's feet. The Moon has to move into Libra to be under the feet.

On Sept 3, 5 BC, the Moon, barely shining at the edge, is in Virgo at Spica, no where near the feet.

By changing the date to Sept 4, 5 BC, all but a tiny edge of the Moon is now in Libra and under the feet. Jesus could have been born on this day, because the Moon was under Virgo's feet. According to Rev. 12:1-5, this sign was visible when Jesus was born....

The dates Josephus gives for Herod's life and reign are widely accepted. Herod's personal secretary, Nicolaus of Damasus, certainly knew the correct dates for Herod's rule. He wrote a book about the life of Herod and a history made up of 144 books. Josephus based his books on the history of Nicolaus of Damasus.
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King Herod the Great
http://www.livius.org/he-hg/herodians/herod_the_great02.html

The monastery at Qumran, the home of the Essenes, suffered a violent and deliberate destruction by fire in 8 BCE, for which Herod may have been responsible. When the king fell ill, two popular teachers, Judas and Matthias, incited their pupils to remove the golden eagle from the entrance of the Temple: after all, according to the Ten Commandments, it was a sin to make idols. The teachers and the pupils were burned alive. Some Jewish scholars had discovered that seventy-six generations had passed since the Creation, and there was a well-known prophecy that the Messiah was to deliver Israel from its foreign rulers in the seventy-seventh generation.

The most important ancient source for the rule of king Herod was written by Flavius Josephus: the Jewish War and the Jewish Antiquities. Both books are based on the history of Nicolaus of Damascus, king Herod's personal secretary.
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Wikipedia
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nicolaus_of_Damascus

Nicolaus of Damascus (Nikolaos Damaskenos) was a Greek historical and philosophical writer who lived in the Augustan age. His name is derived from that of his birthplace, Damascus. He was an intimate friend of Herod the Great, whom he survived. His chief work was a universal history in 144 books, of which only a few fragments remain. He also wrote an autobiography, a life of Augustus, a life of Herod, and some philosophical works.
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Have you heard of the "well-known prophecy that the Messiah was to deliver Israel from its foreign rulers in the seventy-seventh generation" before? If a generation is 40 years, the 77th generation would cover 3080 years. The Hebrew calendar began at what the Jews call the Creation, which they calculated to have occurred 3,760 years before the Christian era. It's true that 3080 years "had passed", but it isn't very close. Agape

Incoming e-mail, Re: Who or What is the Prophetic Beast?

Thank you, This article only proves how the common, everyday believer in the Lord can be caught off guard. Thank you for stressing the points that are truly derogatory to the Bible and the Lord's teachings by this author.

I sent this to you because I was not sure if what I was reading had any merit at all. You have proved that it does not and I am sincerely grateful for your wisdom and expertise in this matter.

God bless you Marilyn. You have helped me to become more aware of the subtle ways that the enemy uses to deceive us all.

God's blessings to you and Ed....Looking forward to meeting you both on that glorious day in the near future, when the Lord calls us home. YsiC

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