Pro and Con 1288

Posted 5-13-06

HERE WE GO! BABYLON IS TO BE RESTORED

(See Revelation 18)

"Lure of Babylon is powerful draw"

"IRAQ, U.N. UNDERTAKE PROJECT TO RESTORE CITY, TRANSFORM IT INTO CENTER FOR CULTURAL TOURISM."
Jeffrey Gettleman/NY Times
http://www.detnews.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20060427/NATION/604270321/1020

...Babylon, the mud-brick city with the million-dollar name, has paid the price of war. It has been ransacked, looted, torn up, paved over, neglected and roughly occupied. Archaeologists said American soldiers even used soil thick with priceless artifacts to stuff sandbags.

But Iraqi leaders and U.N. officials are not giving up. THEY ARE WORKING ASSIDUOUSLY TO RESTORE BABYLON and turn it into a cultural center and possibly even an Iraqi theme park. No one is saying this is going to happen any time soon, but what makes the project even conceivable is that the area around Babylon is one of the safest in Iraq -- a beacon of civilization, once again, in a land of chaos....

Emad Lafta al-Bayati, Hilla's mayor, has big plans for Babylon. "I want restaurants, gift shops, long parking lots," he said. God willing, he added, maybe even a Holiday Inn. THE U.N. EDUCATIONAL, SCIENTIFIC AND CULTURAL ORGANIZATION IS PUMPING MILLIONS OF DOLLARS INTO PROTECTING AND RESTORING BABYLON and a handful of other ancient ruins in Iraq. UNESCO HAS EVEN PRINTED UP A SNAZZY BROCHURE, WITH BABYLON LISTED AS THE PREMIER DESTINATION, to hand out to wealthy donors....

Babylon. Its name has had a magical ring since Hammurabi, the Babylonian king who ruled from 1792 to 1750 B.C. and is credited with handing down one of the first sets of codified law.

After Hammurabi, the city flourished again under King Nebuchadnezzar II, who ruled from around 605 to 562 B.C. and is best known for the hanging gardens he supposedly built for his wife.

The Agnus Dei -- The Lamb of God

http://www.angelfire.com/alt/scm/agnets.html

...The two covering cherubs on the Ark of the Covenant were named "Moloch" which in Hebrew means "King", or "King Star" commonly the name of the planet Jupiter. The other was named CHIUN WHICH WAS ANOTHER NAME FOR THE PLANET SATURN, the furthest planet observable by the naked eye in the solar system. When the two Cherubim were constructed at the beginning of the forty years of Exodus, Moses was told to have the two Cherubs facing one another with their wings touching over the mercy seat. THIS REPRESENTED JUPITER FACING SATURN IN A CONJUNCTION with each other in the celestial spheres.... (emphasis is mine)

My comments

The Hebrew word for king or royal is melek, or molek. Molek (that is, king), was the chief deity of the Ammonites, Molech or Moloch.

I doubt that Amos 5:25-27 refers to the Ark of the Covenant. It says, "Have you brought near sacrifices and food offerings to Me forty years in the wilderness, O house of Israel? Yea, you have lifted up the booth of your king, and Kiyyun (Saturn), your images, THE STAR OF YOUR GODS which you made for yourselves! And I will exile you beyond Damascus, says Jehovah, the God of Hosts is His name." (Unless noted otherwise, all quoted scriptures are from the LITV.)

YHWH of hosts is the Son of God, the Redeemer. He also is YHWH King of Israel (Isa. 44:6).

I do think Saturn is Heaven, the star of our God, but it is a created thing and is not to be worshiped. The LORD said that he would speak to them from over the mercy seat, between the cherubim. Saturn is between the cherubim Jupiter and Uranus. Since the cherubim and mercy seat were of one piece of gold, that relationship can't change. The other thing that was solid gold was the lampstand. According to Josephus, the western lamp represented the Sun. No wonder it was to be kept burning. The other lamps represented Mercury, Venus, Earth, Mars, Jupiter and Saturn (Ant. III.VI. 7).

Mercury, Venus, Earth and Mars are called cherubim in Ezekiel's visions in chapters 1 and 10. In spite of reading many books from the Seminar Collection at BIOLA, it took me over 7 years to figure out what the cherubim represented. I had to call on the Lord to show me before I had the slightest glimmer of what the cherubim of Gen. 3:24 and Eze. 1 and 10 stood for.

Eze. 1:4 says, "I looked, and behold, a windstorm came out of the north, a great cloud, and a fire flashing itself (the Sun), and a brightness to it all around. And out of its midst, like the color of polished bronze it came, out of the midst of the fire.

Eze. 1:15 shows that Earth is one of the cherubim. It says, "I looked at the living creatures (lively things), and, behold, one wheel (orbit) was on the EARTH beside the living creatures, with the four of its faces (a sphere faces all four directions).

I think Saturn is the throne of the Son of God, our Lord Jesus Christ.

Eze. 1:26-28 says, "above the firmament (expanse of space) that was over their heads (farther out in space than the four terrestrial planets, one of which was the Earth, Eze. 1:13: 'one wheel [orbit] upon the earth') was the likeness (symbolic language) of a throne, as the appearance of a sapphire stone (sapphire means dear to the planet Saturn, from the Sanskrit Sani, Saturn, and priya, dear): and upon the likeness of the throne was the likeness as the appearance of a man (i.e., Jesus Christ) above upon it. And I saw as the colour of amber, as the appearance of fire round about within it, from the appearance of his loins even upward (from the equator upward and downward was amber color, and Saturn is yellow and amber), and from the appearance of his loins even downward, I saw as it were the appearance of fire, and it had brightness round about (that's Saturn's ring system). As the appearance of the bow that is in the cloud in the day of rain, so was the appearance of the brightness round about (there are 7 rings and 7 colors in the rainbow, both the rings and a rainbow show colors when sunshine hits ice crystals). This was the appearance of the likeness of the glory of the LORD".

Act 7:42-51 says, "Then God turned, and GAVE THEM UP TO WORSHIP THE HOST OF HEAVEN; as it is written in the book of the prophets, O ye house of Israel, have ye offered to me slain beasts and sacrifices by the space of forty years in the wilderness? Yea, YE TOOK UP THE TABERNACLE OF MOLOCH, AND THE STAR OF YOUR GOD REMPHAN (KIJUN, SATURN), FIGURES WHICH YE MADE TO WORSHIP THEM: and I will carry you away beyond Babylon. OUR FATHERS HAD THE TABERNACLE OF WITNESS IN THE WILDERNESS, AS HE HAD APPOINTED, SPEAKING UNTO MOSES, THAT HE SHOULD MAKE IT ACCORDING TO THE FASHION THAT HE HAD SEEN. Which also our fathers that came after brought in with Jesus into the possession of the Gentiles, whom God drave out before the face of our fathers, unto the days of David; Who found favour before God, and desired to find a tabernacle for the God of Jacob. But Solomon built him an house. Howbeit the most High dwelleth not in temples made with hands; as saith the prophet, Heaven (i.e., Saturn) is my throne, and earth is my footstool: what house will ye build me? saith the Lord: or what is the place of my rest? Hath not my hand made all these things? Ye stiffnecked and uncircumcised in heart and ears, ye do always resist the Holy Ghost: AS YOUR FATHERS DID, SO DO YE."

It is interesting to read the scriptures that mention the cherubim, or cherubs in the LITV.

Gen. 3:24 says, "He drove the man out. And He lodged the CHERUBS (in the sky) at the east of the Garden of Eden (they rise in the east), and the flaming sword (asteroid) whirling around to guard the way of (to) the Tree of Life" (in Heaven, Rev. 22:1,2). On this side of the asteroid belt is Earth and Mars. On the other side of the Asteroid Belt are Jupiter and Saturn. The way from Earth to Saturn is guarded by the asteroid that turns every way. It rotates and orbits in four directions.

I Chron. 13:6 says, "David and all Israel went up to Baalah, to Kirjath-jearim of Judah, to bring up from there the ark of JEHOVAH GOD, WHO DWELLS AMONG THE CHERUBS, where the Name was called on."

II Sam. 6:2 says, "David rose up and went, and all the people with him, from Baal-judah, to bring up the ark of God from there which is called by the Name, the Name of JEHOVAH OF HOSTS, WHO DWELLS ABOVE THE CHERUBS" (i.e., farther out in space than Mercury, Venus, Earth, Mars, and Jupiter).

I Sam. 4:4 says, "And the people sent to Shiloh, and they took from there the ark of the covenant of JEHOVAH OF HOSTS, WHO DWELLS BETWEEN THE CHERUBS." Saturn is between Jupiter and Uranus.

II Kings 19:15 says, "Hezekiah prayed before Jehovah, and said, O JEHOVAH THE GOD OF ISRAEL, WHO SITS ABOVE THE CHERUBS, YOU ARE GOD HIMSELF, You alone, to all the kingdoms of the earth; You have made the heavens and the earth."

Psa. 80:1 says, "Give ear, O SHEPHERD OF ISRAEL, YOU LEADING JOSEPH LIKE A FLOCK; SHINE FORTH, YOU DWELLING BETWEEN THE CHERUBS."

Isa. 37:16 says, "O JEHOVAH OF HOSTS, GOD OF ISRAEL, WHO DWELLS BETWEEN THE CHERUBS, You are He, God, You alone to all the kingdoms of the earth. You have made the heavens and the earth."

Ex. 25:22 says, "I WILL MEET YOU THERE, AND WILL SPEAK WITH YOU, ABOVE THE MERCYSEAT (i.e., out in space), FROM BETWEEN THE TWO CHERUBS which are on the ark of testimony, all which I shall command you concerning the sons of Israel."

Incoming email, re: Rapture Timing

I read with great interest your article "This Nova Heralded the Birth of Jesus Christ." I am so glad you understand such things because I never have. God gave us all different gifts and understanding the Bible based on astronomy/astrology is a gift He gave you which requires a unique ability to piece together a wide variety of information and make sense out of it all. It is fascinating, nonetheless, as I love anything to do with outer space that amplifies our understanding of our Creator.

I have an abiding interest in Biblical prophecy, especially as it relates to the coming rapture. I approach it with a bias, admittedly, due to a pre-trib background that I was raised in. My dad specialized in eschatology in Bible School and has his degree as a minister of theology.

I try to look at all the prophetic pieces from the variety of angles available and include in my mix of potentially relevant bits of information such things as dreams, visions and angellic visitations (since angels are God's messengers to us; weeding out demonic influences first).

In this regard there were some fairly recent events that are worth considering in the possible timing of the soon rapture. How it ties in with astronomy/astrology I don't know, but I thought I would run them by you for your contemplation.

You stated that Jesus was born in 5 BC which means our calendars are off by five years. Following is an email in which an angel appeared to a minister in Bombay, India, in December of 2005 and reset his watch back to January 1, 2000. That would seem to substantiate your position.

Supernatural Revelation Given to a Pastor in India
Jim Bramlett, Jan 03 2006

Dear friends:

The below was forwarded to me by a trusted friend and missionary. Her source describes the writer of the below as "a trusted friend and pastor who lives in Bombay."

At the beginning, he mentioned "January 2000." I have wondered if he really meant to say 2006; however, the more I think about it I suspect he meant to say what he said because the message speaks of "changing" or "resetting" the time. I do not understand that, but my source said that she, "felt the resetting to 2000 was significant, as if the Lord was showing an adjustment in the time because man had gotten the calendar out of sync." She also felt his reference near the end to the "Great Escape" was significant.
Jim
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From the pastor in Bombay, India:

My Dear friends...

The Lord woke me up on the night of the 20th and had me sit in my living room, and then I had a unique visitation from an angel that spoke to me and shared with me the following.
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20th Dec. 2005; 3:30 a.m.; My Living Room

The angel of the Lord walked into the living room and just touched my watch with his finger. I looked at the watch and it had changed to 1st January 2000. I knew the Lord was saying something to me and so I asked Him.

Some of the things the angel shared with me I was not allowed to speak until he would indicate [to] me the time. But this which I share with you, he allowed me to speak.

The Lord said to me that He was changing time! There was a resetting of time. Then the angel began to tell me many things for nearly two hours:

The Nations:

There will be a time now set upon the nations. That the Lord was opening a window of time for certain nations. After the window of time is over, these nations would close as waves of persecution and sickness would come upon them.

In India, the Sensex (the Indian stock exchange) would fall. This would be a bad fall. This would bring a terrible insecurity on the people and the Government would not be able to help at all.

Sudden freak weather conditions will come to pass in cities, areas and nations. Most of them would be unexplainable.

There will be a fresh spate of terrible earthquakes, some of them accompanied with huge fires. Devastation and desolation will take place after this in a number of regions, these will not be fit for human living anymore.

Many great men, who have made a mark in history in the recent years, will pass away this year.

A new sign will now be upon the nations. Fresh waves of unrest over geographical places will happen suddenly. Overnight political breakdowns, coups and internal rebellion will happen. The lust to rule in power will be great.

Islam will wax stronger this year more than ever. It will begin to set itself up in different parts of Europe. Islamic fundamentalists will cause more panic and harm, even in nations that have been neutral. Much damage will be seen.

The Islamic nations on the other hand will suffer. Constant unrest will be in their politics, their economic instability and even the so-called rich nations will be hit badly. Watch the UAE [Ed., I believe he means the United Arab Emirates], a sign will come.

A new disease will become prevalent. This has been sort of lurking under the shadows for a while now. But will suddenly hit. The middle-class and rich will become vulnerable more than ever. This disease has the capacity to spread faster than AIDS and the Hepatitis strains.

Major cities in the Middle East, Europe and Australia will be affected by sudden mysterious and baffling weather patterns. Some of these will be caused by mistakes of humans who will pollute rivers, dams, waters. Areas of land will be poisoned. The air above will have deadly chemicals in them that will affect general health, there will be constant sicknesses. A spread of insect and animal carriers will cause people to even flee cities.

Because of a great rise of wickedness and rebellion, wrong leaders will come up who will have agendas that will destroy security and belief in political systems. Certain women leaders will come in power; watch them as they will not submit to any men.

The Church:

There is also a resetting of standards that is coming upon the church! God is calling His people with a fresh understanding of returning to the Ancient Paths.

A great shift is taking place in the heavenlies; this shift will directly affect people who have been in ministry for a season. The call to cross over to new horizons and even to new geographical areas will become more prevalent. A greater tying-up of ministries who will be connected together to work for the Kingdom. The mentality of local will change to Kingdom. God is orchestrating a fresh move to make ready great times of the Spirit.

Get ready for changes. There is a garment change taking place upon the Bride, as she readies herself for her soon coming Bridegroom. The old is being done away with in a sense. The new is coming and coming quickly. The systems that church governments were running on will change. More leaders will be exposed of private unconfessed sin that has not been dealt with. The rule of God will be more understood this season.

The church has been asked to get prepared for the supernatural. The new garment that she puts on has the capacity to bring on these phenomena. Get ready for angelic visitations, transportations and signs in the heavens that people will be able to see over cities and towns.

At the same time there is a clarion call to holiness. Pseudo holiness will not be accepted.

There is a call to rest. The things you do this year will come out of rest. Stop struggling and learn to rest. Just like the high priest was called to be in the Shekinah, he was not to sweat, there is a no sweat call upon the church.

A very clear measuring line is being drawn in the midst of my people. A clear division will enter the church where those who desire to drink deeper will be different than those who are just in the crowd. (Just like Gideon's army). There is also a need for recording the things that God is beginning to do in your midst. Take note of those things and write down just as in the OT great happenings were recorded.

Beware of the spirit of Balaam, Balak, and the Nicolaitian standards. The Jezebel spirit will rise up with greater power, affecting weak leadership and taking control in unimaginable ways. Ask the Lord for wisdom and discernment, and a lot will come from Him. Release the prophets.

Even though many new people will be added to the church, loads of them will wax cold and turn away from the faith. The fringes are getting bigger and more people will like to hang in the fringes between the world and the church.

This is also a year of great release. The angel reminded me of a movie I saw when I was 12 years old: The Great Escape. It was based on a true story where the Nazis, exasperated at the number of escapes from their prison camps by a relatively small number of Allied prisoners, relocated them to a high-security "escape-proof" camp to sit out the remainder of the war. Undaunted, the prisoners plan one of the most ambitious escape attempts of World War II. It deals with the largest Allied escape attempt from a German POW camp during the Second World War.

Many of those who desire to come out of their constricted areas of life and ministry will do so. The prison camps of bondages, fear and sicknesses will be broken and many set free. More marriages this year!

Earlier the Lord had given me a dream about a big toe that had been cut off a woman's feet. In my dream, as soon as I touched the big toe, it became a talon! He said to me that some leaders in the church will go off balance, as they will lose their sense of justice. There will be injustice, and people will hurt. At that time fathers need to come in and help.

There will be a great desire for those who are being used by God to become famous. Be careful of pride and boastfulness of accomplishments.

A fresh prophetic spirit will come forth right from the beginning of this coming year. As the year goes on, this will increase in power, strength and will fulfill the Lord's heart for this season.

I was told to read the following:
Matt 23, Particularly the seven woes, Ezekiel 40 43, Jer. 31, And the book of Ruth

(Ed., This story of Ruth and Boaz's marriage, which created the line from which Jesus Christ was later born, is also considered symbolic of the rapture and marriage of Jesus to His bride. An interesting possibility, therefore, that the angel may be hinting this will be the year of the rapture.)

Article Source:

http://www.injesus.com/index.php?module=message&task=view&MID=GB0079UV&GroupID=2A004N9G

My reply

Thanks for your kind words.

> > You stated that Jesus was born in 5 BC which means our calendars are off by five years.

The change from BC to AD still recorded the number of years accurately. That point just didn't coincide with Jesus' birth. Also, the count went from 1 BC to 1 AD without a zero year. That complicated figuring years across that point, but it only makes a difference of one year if one doesn't know when to add or subtract one year when counting back and forth across that boundary. Our years are regulated by the Sun. I don't think we are off by 5 years. How could that happen? In Gen. 1:14, "God said, Let there be lights in the firmament of the heaven to divide the day from the night; and let them be for signs, and for seasons, and for days, and years."

The Lord started mankind off counting the days of the week and the years. Gen. 2:3 says, "God blessed the seventh day, and sanctified it: because that in it he had rested from all his work which God created and made." Through the various calendar changes, the days of the week have been kept in order. When 10 days were dropped from the date, the days of the week marched on as before.

Adam must have kept track of days and years. He was 130 when Seth was born.

Surely Noah knew how to count the months and days of the month. Gen. 6:3 says, "the LORD said, My spirit shall not always strive with man, for that he also is flesh: yet his days shall be an hundred and twenty years." Noah would have passed that knowledge on to his posterity. Gen 7:11,12 says, "In the six hundredth year of Noah's life, in the second month, the seventeenth day of the month, the same day were all the fountains of the great deep broken up, and the windows of heaven were opened. And the rain was upon the earth forty days and forty nights."

> > The church has been asked to get prepared for the supernatural. The new garment that she puts on has the capacity to bring on these phenomena. Get ready for angelic visitations, transportations and signs in the heavens that people will be able to see over cities and towns. (emphasis is mine)

Because of the wicked angels, I don't trust "angelic visitations," but Luke 21:25 shows that there will be signs in the heavens. It says, "there shall be signs in the sun, and in the moon, and in the stars; and upon the earth distress of nations, with perplexity; the sea and the waves roaring". Verse 28 says, "And when these things begin to come to pass, then look up, and lift up your heads; for your redemption draweth nigh."

> > The Lord said to me that He was CHANGING TIME! There was a resetting of time. Then the angel began to tell me many things for nearly two hours.

Dan. 7:24-26 says, "And the ten horns out of this kingdom are ten kings that shall arise: and another (the False Prophet) shall rise after them; and he shall be diverse from the first (the beast of Rev. 13:3-10) (the 2nd beast of Rev. 13:11-18 will be Satan-possessed, like Judas Iscariot, the second son of perdition, John 17:12; Rev. 17:8,11), and he shall subdue three kings. And he shall speak great words against the most High (YHWH of hosts, the Redeemer, Christ, Isa. 44:6), and shall wear out the saints of the most High, and think to CHANGE TIMES and laws: and they shall be given into his hand until a time and times and the dividing of time (i.e., the last 3.5 years of the Tribulation). But the judgment shall sit, and they shall take away his dominion, to consume and to destroy it unto the end."

> > There is a call to rest. The things you do this year will come out of rest. Stop struggling and learn to rest. Just like the high priest was called to be in the Shekinah, he was not to sweat, there is a no sweat call upon the church.

That sounds like what Satan would like us to do. He would like to lull us to sleep so he can try to accomplish his goals. However, "the hope of him is in vain" (Job 41:9). In Jude 1:3, the half-brother of Jesus said, "Beloved, when I gave all diligence to write unto you of the common salvation, it was needful for me to write unto you, and exhort you that ye should earnestly contend for the faith which was once delivered unto the saints."

> > There is also a need for recording the things that God is beginning to do in your midst. Take note of those things and write down just as in the OT great happenings were recorded.

> > A fresh prophetic spirit will come forth right from the beginning of this coming year.

We have been forewarned. The Bible is already complete. Rev. 22:18 says, "I testify unto every man that heareth the words of the prophecy of this book, if any man shall add unto them, God shall add unto him the plagues which are written in this book".

Please be careful. You don't want to be tricked into listening to lying spirits.

However, I think Moses and Elijah will prophesy during the first half of the Tribulation. Rev. 11:3 says, "I will give power unto my two witnesses, and they shall prophesy a thousand two hundred and threescore days, clothed in sackcloth." I expect them to come with Jesus when he comes for his Bride, then stay on Earth during the first half of the Tribulation. If they were to come at the beginning of this coming year, the Rapture should take place by then.
Agape

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