Pro and Con 1354

Posted 8-30-07

"Archaeologists: Muslim dig damaged Temple wall"

By ETGAR LEFKOVI http://www.jpost.com/servlet/Satellite?cid=1188392502776&pagename=JPost%2FJPArticle%2FShowFull 8-31-07...Among the antiquities that have been damaged are a 7-METER-WIDE WALL (22 ft) that apparently dates back to Second-Temple times and was likely PART OF THE TEMPLE COURTS, according to Israeli archaeologists from the nonpartisan Committee Against the Destruction of Antiquities on the Temple Mount. "This is the first time in the history of archaeological excavation in Israel that we have remains that COULD HAVE BEEN PART OF THE COURTS OF THE TEMPLE itself," Barkai ... --- "Biblical Destruction" By HERSHEL SHANKS July 18, 2007; Page A14 http://paleojudaica.blogspot.com/2007_07_15_archive.html#2025116912191552061 "Within the last few days, a trench two-feet deep -- STARTING FROM THE NORTHERN END OF THE PLATFORM WHERE JERUSALEM'S DOME OF THE ROCK SITS -- HAS BEGUN WORKING ITS WAY TOWARD THE SOUTHERN END OF THE TEMPLE MOUNT." --- "Policeman Assaulted Trying to Stop Illegal Temple Mount Dig" by Hillel Fendel http://www.israelnationalnews.com/News/News.aspx/123525 Gideon Charlap, a top Jerusalem architect and Temple Mount expert, told Arutz-7 what he saw when he visited the Temple Mount on Tuesday: "The Arabs there are digging a deep NORTH-TO-SOUTH TRENCH, up to a meter [1.1 yards] deep. It is being dug in the area that served during Holy Temple times as the Ezrat Nashim [the area known as THE WOMEN'S COURTYARD, though it was not reserved only for women -ed.]. THE TRENCH PASSES THROUGH THREE EAST-TO-WEST WALLS, according to my calculations - walls that probably served as separations for the Temple's offices and the like. This means that the destruction is tremendous..." The digging is taking place just EAST OF THE DOME OF THE ROCK --- large pictures http://www.echad.info/bait/new_ditchE28-08-07.htm

My comments

I think the Temple proper was between the Dome of the Rock and the Al Aska Mosque. The dimensions of the Holy of Holies would not fit over the exposed rock in the Dome of the Rock. I wonder what the Muslims will find as this trench is extended to the Al Aska Mosque.

Incoming e-mail, Re: He COMETh - The Comets

Shoemaker-Levy, Hale-Bopp, & McNaught
In July it was discovered how the three most significant comets of our time relate to this Rosh Hashanah....

In short all three comets are linked to Rosh Hashanah 2007 by the factor of 120--a most important number. This has been repeated everywhere else (peruse the website). It also ties into Ascension Day, which is not necessarily an automatic 120 days before Rosh Hashanah. But here it is, and right between McNaught and RH 2007.

Please view the below link to see this fully.
Daniel Matson
http://jesus2006.org/signsoftheend/comet.html

My reply

The months between Passover and Trumpets always have the same number of days. Agape

His reply

But this is apple and oranges since Ascension day is always a Thursday where Passover and RH change as to the days of the week.

My reply

I think the dates are constant. I'll chart it out for you, then see what you think.

First of all, keep in mind that the Pre-incarnate Christ is both YHWH King of Israel and YHWH of hosts, the Redeemer. Isa. 44:6 says, "Thus saith the LORD (YHWH) the King of Israel, and his redeemer the LORD (YHWH) of hosts; I am the first (YHWH King of Israel), AND I am the last (YHWH of hosts, the Redeemer); and beside me there is no God."

Lev 23:1,2 says, "the LORD (YHWH King of Israel and YHWH of hosts, the Redeemer, i.e., the Pre-incarnate Christ) spake unto Moses, saying, Speak unto the children of Israel, and say unto them, Concerning the feasts of the LORD, which ye shall proclaim to be holy convocations...THESE ARE MY FEASTS."

It is as if Jesus said, "THESE ARE MY FEASTS." Why? BECAUSE THEY'RE PROPHETIC. THE FIRST FOUR FIT 30 AD, THE YEAR OF THE CRUCIFIXION, EXACTLY.

Nisan 8, 3790 (Sat, Apr 1, 30 AD) Jesus arrived at Bethany 6 days before Passover
Nisan 9, 3790 (Sun, Apr 2, 30 AD) PALM SUNDAY, Jesus presented himself as King
Nisan 10, 3790 (Mon, Apr 3, 30 AD) Jesus purified the Temple and cursed the fig tree
Nisan 11, 3790 (Tue, Apr 4, 30 AD) Jesus gave the Olivet Discourse, the fig tree dried up
Nisan 12, 3790 (Wed, Apr 5, 30 AD) 2 days before the Passover (Mk 14:1)
Nisan 13, 3790 (Thur, Apr 6, 30 AD) PREPARATION DAY FOR PASSOVER, Jesus CRUCIFIED about 9 AM
(dark at noon) DIED 3 PM, buried - counts as the 1st day in the heart of earth
Nisan 14, 3790 (Fri, Apr 7, 30 AD) PASSOVER (Lev 23:5), HIGH DAY - 1st night, 2nd day in earth
Nisan 15, 3790 (Sat, Apr 8, 30 AD) Sabbath, Feast of UNLEAVENED BREAD (Lev 23:6) - 3rd day, 2nd night in heart of earth
Nisan 16, 3790 (Sun, Apr 9, 30 AD) FIRSTFRUITS, on the morrow after the sabbath the priest shall wave it, 3rd night in heart of earth, JESUS WAS RESURRECTED early in the morning.
1 Cor 15:20 says, "now is Christ risen from the dead, and become THE FIRSTFRUITS OF THEM THAT SLEPT."

James 1:18 says, "Of his own will begat he us with the word of truth, that we should be a kind of FIRSTFRUITS of his creatures."

1 CoR 15:23 says, "But every man in his own order (tagmati, rank): Christ the firstfruits; afterward they that are Christ's at his coming."

Lev 23:15-17 (DRB) "count therefore from the morrow (Sunday) after the sabbath (Saturday), wherein you offered the sheaf of firstfruits (Sunday), seven full weeks (i.e., ending on Sunday). Even unto the morrow (Monday) after the seventh week be expired (on Sunday), that is to say, fifty days: and so you shall offer a new sacrifice to the Lord (on Pentecost). OUT OF ALL YOUR DWELLINGS (i.e., foretelling the Pre-Trib Rapture), two loaves of the FIRSTFRUITS (i.e., both Jews and Church), of two tenths of flour leavened, which you shall bake for the FIRSTFRUITS OF THE LORD."

Nisan 17, 3790 (Mon, Apr 10, 30 AD) Omer 1
Nisan 18, 3790 (Tue, Apr 11, 30 AD) Omer 2
Nisan 19, 3790 (Wed, Apr 12, 30 AD) Omer 3
Nisan 20, 3790 (Thur, Apr 13, 30 AD) Omer 4
Nisan 21, 3790 (Fri, Apr 14, 30 AD) Omer 5
Nisan 22, 3790 (Sat, Apr 15, 30 AD) Omer 6
Nisan 23, 3790 (Sun, Apr 16, 30 AD) Omer 7, end of week 1, Sunday to Sunday

Nisan 24, 3790 (Mon, Apr 17, 30 AD) Omer 8
Nisan 25, 3790 (Tue, Apr 18, 30 AD) Omer 9
Nisan 26, 3790 (Wed, Apr 19, 30 AD) Omer 10
Nisan 27, 3790 (Thur, Apr 20, 30 AD) Omer 11
Nisan 28, 3790 (Fri, Apr 21, 30 AD) Omer 12
Nisan 29, 3790 (Sat, Apr 22, 30 AD) Omer 13
Nisan 30, 3790 (Sun, Apr 23, 30 AD) Omer 14, end of week 2, Sunday to Sunday

Iyar 1, 3790 (Mon, Apr 24, 30 AD) Omer 15
Iyar 2, 3790 (Tue, Apr 25, 30 AD) Omer 16
Iyar 3, 3790 (Wed, Apr 26, 30 AD) Omer 17
Iyar 4, 3790 (Thu, Apr 27, 30 AD) Omer 18
Iyar 5, 3790 (Fri, Apr 28, 30 AD) Omer 19
Iyar 6, 3790 (Sat, Apr 29, 30 AD) Omer 20
Iyar 7, 3790 (Sun, Apr 30, 30 AD) Omer 21, end of week 3, Sunday to Sunday

Iyar 8, 3790 (Mon, May 1, 30 AD) Omer 22
Iyar 9, 3790 (Tue, May 2, 30 AD) Omer 23
Iyar 10, 3790 (Wed, May 3, 30 AD) Omer 24
Iyar 11, 3790 (Thu, May 4, 30 AD) Omer 25
Iyar 12, 3790 (Fri, May 5, 30 AD) Omer 26
Iyar 13, 3790 (Sat, May 6, 30 AD) Omer 27
Iyar 14, 3790 (Sun, May 7, 30 AD) Omer 28, end of week 4, Sunday to Sunday

Iyar 15, 3790 (Mon, May 8, 30 AD) Omer 29
Iyar 16, 3790 (Tue, May 9, 30 AD) Omer 30
Iyar 17, 3790 (Wed, May 10, 30 AD) Omer 31
Iyar 18, 3790 (Thu, May 11, 30 AD) Omer 32
Iyar 19, 3790 (Fri, May 12, 30 AD) Omer 33
Iyar 20, 3790 (Sat, May 13, 30 AD) Omer 34
Iyar 21, 3790 (Sun, May 14, 30 AD) Omer 35, end of week 5, Sunday to Sunday

Iyar 22, 3790 (Mon, May 15, 30 AD) Omer 36
Iyar 23, 3790 (Tue, May 16, 30 AD) Omer 37
Iyar 24, 3790 (Wed, May 17, 30 AD) Omer 38
Iyar 25, 3790 (Thu, May 18, 30 AD) Omer 39
Iyar 26, 3790 (Fri, May 19, 30 AD) Omer 40, Ascension Day fell on Friday in 30 AD
Iyar 27, 3790 (Sat, May 20, 30 AD) Omer 41
Iyar 28, 3790 (Sun, May 21, 30 AD) Omer 42, end of week 6, Sunday to Sunday

Iyar 29, 3790 (Mon, May 22, 30 AD) Omer 43
Sivan 1, 3790 (Tue, May 23, 30 AD) Omer 44
Sivan 2, 3790 (Wed, May 24, 30 AD) Omer 45
Sivan 3, 3790 (Thu, May 25, 30 AD) Omer 46
Sivan 4, 3790 (Fri, May 26, 30 AD) Omer 47
Sivan 5, 3790 (Sat, May 27, 30 AD) Omer 48
Sivan 6, 3790 (Sun, May 28, 30 AD) Omer 49, end of week 7, Sunday to Sunday

Sivan 7, 3790 (Mon, May 29, 30 AD) 50th day, Pentecost

Ex 23:19 says, "The FIRST OF THE FIRSTFRUITS of thy land THOU SHALT BRING INTO THE HOUSE OF THE LORD THY GOD." This seems to be referring to the Pre-Trib Rapture on Pentecost. The last of the firstfruits would be caught up to the house of the LORD at the Pre-Wrath Rapture on the Feast of Trumpets.
Ex 23:16 says, "the FEAST OF HARVEST (i.e., Pentecost), the FIRSTFRUITS of thy labours, which thou hast sown in the field (the field is the world): and the feast of ingathering, which is in the end of the year, when thou hast gathered in (at the Pre-Wrath Rapture on the Feast of Trumpets) thy labours out of the field (world)."

Nu 28:26 says, "Also in the day of the FIRSTFRUITS, when ye bring a new meat offering unto the LORD, AFTER YOUR WEEKS BE OUT (i.e., on Pentecost), ye shall have an holy convocation; ye shall do no servile work". Agape

Incoming e-mail, Re: Pro and Con 1348

interesting article, the types and shadows fit very well. As you know, the year 1517 saw two momentous events, as the land and people of Israel were being crushed in the jaws of the beast Islam; Martin Luther was proclaiming freedom from the beast that the Catholic Church had become. These events certainly qualify 1517 as a prophetic benchmark year. I am beginning to see that all prophesy regarding the Lords return converge on the year 2008. The prophesy "ACCORDING TO THE TIME OF LIFE. 5678 (1917) + 90 yrs = 5768 (2007/2008)." is but one good example. Your insight into the years 1967 and 2016 being years of Jubilee are true in a spiritual sense, even if they aren't verified historically. Prophetically these time spans suggest that 2008 is the best candidate for the year of the Rapture. 2008 is Sabbatical and thus fulfills the requirement that the Lord would return at the appointed time.

...I need to explain why 2008 is both Sabbatical and a Year of Jubilee. This event can only happen once in all History, that being the last 49 years of the 6 days (6000 years) of mans labor, and the beginning of the seventh day millennium of rest. Remember the Lord said the days would be shortened:

Mark 13:20 and if the Lord did not shorten the days, no flesh had been saved; but because of the chosen, whom He did choose to Himself, He did shorten the days.

2 Peter 3:8 And this one thing let not be unobserved by you, beloved, that one day with the Lord is as a thousand years, and a thousand years as one day;

The only way we can comprehend Mark 13:20, is to understand that it applies to the Lords sixth day. That the events assumed to occur at the end of the sixth day will come sooner than expected; specifically, the Rapture and Tribulation. If we attempt to apply these shortened days to specific 24 hour days, we are lost to endless suppositions. Let me put it this way, The Lord is shortening the sequence of events in a time span we are already aware of, which is, the sixth day of Gods time scale.

Now, it is only natural to be skeptical and question why I would be saying 2008 is 49 years short of 6000 years. In order to know this someone would need to know exactly how old the world is. Most biblical scholars except the chronology of Bishop James Ussher to be the best estimate of the age of the world, but many researchers, including yourself, have found errors. One example, Ussher says the world was created in the year 4004 bc, by adding 4004 bc and 2007 ad. we get 6011 years indicating the 7th millennium already started 11 years ago and no one even noticed. If we understand correctly that the 7th millennium is the Lord's thousand year rest, then Ussher's chronology is already to long. Another error in Ussher's chronology is the additional 60 years he gives in the age of Terah when Abraham was born. Ussher says Terah was 130 years old when he had Abraham but the Holy Bible says;

Genesis 11:26 And Terah liveth seventy years, and begetteth Abram, Nahor, and Haran.

The Bible, The Book of Jasher, and Josephus all say Terah was 70 years old when Abraham was born. If we subtract this 60 year error from 6011 we get 5951, 49 years short of 6000. I did not use Usher's chronology in my research of the world’s age, but quite surprisingly, by correcting this one error we come up 49 years short of 6000! I arrived at my conclusions thru 10 years of intense study, utilizing all the ancient texts and the new information found in the Dead Sea Scrolls.

Now, if we are that generation who shall not pass away before all these things are fulfilled, and we are 49 years away from the start of the 7 millennium, we must expand our concept of the duration of the events that take place after the rapture and before the beginning of the 7th millennium. The Bible gives us glimpses of profound events that happen in this period. We understand that there will be seven years of tribulation and I think Israel will need seven more years to clean up the mess caused by the war of Armageddon.

Eze 39:9 And they that dwell in the cities of Israel shall go forth, and shall make fires of the weapons and burn them, both the shields and the bucklers, the bows and the arrows, and the handstaves, and the spears, and they shall make fires of them seven years;

Additionally we have the events known as the Judgment of the Nations, The Judgment seat of Christ, The Wedding Feast of the Bride, The Times of Restoration in which the Earth is cleansed and renewed, and many other references to events happening after the Lords return.

One thing I have discovered thru your web site is that different interpretations of scripture can lead to similar results. I think this information gives clearer understanding of why the Jews believed Messiah would come at the last Jubilee. Just as Jesus made his appearance at the Jubilee of 28 ad, we have a type and shadow of his appearance in 2008 ad. this can also be called the Last Trump, and the Last Jubilee.

My reply

I think Adam's time of trial and probation in the Garden of Eden was 40 years. Thus the first and second Adam were tried 40 time periods, Jesus 40 days, and Adam 40 years. I think Adam was cast out of the Garden of Eden in 4004/4003 BC. Only then was Adam's standing before God equal to man's today. (6000 yrs - 4003 + 1 (no zero yr) = 1998, or the Hebrew 5758).

> > The Times of Restoration in which the Earth is cleansed and renewed

I am very interested in the TIME OF RESTORATION that follows the Second Advent. The Earth and its atmosphere will have been dangerously damaged by the asteroid impacts. As in the days of Adam, the Lord will need to refresh both the surface of the Earth and the atmosphere that surrounds it to make it a perfect habitat for man again. Below are some Interesting verses I have been looking at.

Rev 21:1 says, "I saw A NEW (kainos, new, especially in freshness) HEAVEN AND A NEW EARTH: for the first heaven and the first earth were passed away (parerchomai; passed by); and THERE WAS NO MORE SEA" (thalassa, generally or specifically).

Neh 9:6 says, "Thou, even thou, art LORD alone; thou hast made heaven, the heaven of heavens, with all their host, the earth, and all things that are therein, THE SEAS, and all that is therein, and THOU PRESERVEST THEM ALL". Doesn't this mean that the sea will be preserved? If not literal, to what does "no more sea" in Rev. 21:1 refer? could it mean no more UN? See Rev. 17:15. The literal sea is still there in the Millennium. Psa 72:6-8 says, "He shall come down like rain upon the mown grass: as showers that water the earth. In his days shall the righteous flourish; and abundance of peace so long as the moon endureth. He shall have dominion also FROM SEA TO SEA, and from the river unto the ends of the earth."

Isa 28:12 says, "To whom he said, THIS IS THE REST wherewith ye may cause the weary to rest; and THIS IS THE REFRESHING: yet they would not hear."

Isa 51:6 says, "THE HEAVENS (atmospheric) SHALL VANISH AWAY LIKE SMOKE. AMD THE EARTH SHALL WAX OLD like a garment".

Isa 65:17 says, "I CREATE NEW (chadash, new, FRESH) HEAVENS AND A NEW (cha^da^sh) EARTH".

Isa 66:22 says, "For as the NEW (chadash) HEAVENS AND THE NEW (chadash) EARTH, which I will make, shall remain before me, saith the LORD, so shall your seed and your name remain."

Act 3:19 says, "Repent ye therefore, and be converted, that your sins may be blotted out, when THE TIMES OF REFRESHING SHALL COME FROM THE PRESENCE OF THE LORD".

2 Peter 3:12,13 says, "Looking for and hasting unto the coming of the day of God, wherein THE HEAVENS (ouranos, air, sky, i.e., the atmosphere) BEING ON FIRE SHALL BE DISSOLVED, AND THE ELEMENTS SHALL MELT WITH FERVENT HEAT? Nevertheless we, according to his promise, LOOK FOR NEW (kainos, new, especially in freshness) HEAVENS AND A NEW (kainos) EARTH, wherein dwelleth righteousness."

Acts 3:19-24 says, "Repent ye therefore, and be converted, that your sins may be blotted out, when THE TIMES OF REFRESHING (anapsuxis, a recovery of breath, revival) shall come from the presence of the Lord; And he shall send Jesus Christ, which before was preached unto you: Whom the heaven must receive until THE TIMES OF RESTITUTION (apokatastasis, reconstitution) OF ALL THINGS, which God hath spoken by the mouth of all his holy prophets since the world began. For Moses truly said unto the fathers, A prophet shall the Lord your God raise up unto you of your brethren, like unto me; him shall ye hear in all things whatsoever he shall say unto you. And it shall come to pass, that every soul, which will not hear that prophet, shall be destroyed from among the people. Yea, and ALL THE PROPHETS FROM SAMUEL AND THOSE THAT FOLLOW AFTER, AS MANY AS HAVE SPOKEN, HAVE LIKEWISE FORETOLD OF THESE DAYS."

When have they foretold "these days" that I haven't found? I searched for "these days" on eSword without finding any that obviously refer to the times of restitution.

> > Just as Jesus made his appearance at the Jubilee of 28 ad, we have a type and shadow of his appearance in 2008 ad.

Thanks for this comparison. I didn't catch this. No wonder the Jubilee was in 28 AD.

Since the Jews were dispersed and the Temple was burned in 70 AD, there was no Jubilee celebration in 78 AD, making 28 AD the last Jubilee. The Jews thought the Messiah would come at the last Jubilee, and he did. Agape

   Pro and Con 1355   Or Return   Home


Contact me for more information at: mjagee1@earthlink.net


Send me e-mail now


8641 Sugar Gum Rd, Riverside, CA 92508, USA; (951) 653-4110


© 1996-2007, Marilyn J. Agee
Updated 9-25-07