Pro and Con 1383

Posted 12-7-08

Please pray for Mike Curtiss. He is having spinal surgery Wednesday. Lord, please get him out of pain and give him back the use of his legs. In Jesus' name, Amen.

Also, Ed just told me he has an absess on a tooth. Lord, please help us get this taken care of speedily. In Jesus' name, Amen.

Jupiter's Rings Revealed

Sun eclipsed by Jupiter

Credit: (NOAO), J. Burns (Cornell) et al., Galileo Project, JPL, NASA

Explanation: Why does Jupiter have rings? Jupiter's rings were discovered in 1979 by the passing Voyager 1 spacecraft, but their origin was a mystery. Data from the Galileo spacecraft that orbited Jupiter from 1995 to 2003 later confirmed that these rings were created by meteoroid impacts on small nearby moons. As a small meteoroid strikes tiny Adrastea, for example, it will bore into the moon, vaporize, and explode dirt and dust off into a Jovian orbit. Pictured above is an eclipse of the Sun by Jupiter, as viewed from Galileo. Small dust particles high in Jupiter's atmosphere, as well as the dust particles that compose the rings, can be seen by reflected sunlight.

My comment

If Jupiter was a total gas planet, wouldn't you think more light would get through, at least around the edges, than this? I'd say this eclipse is a good reason to think that Jupiter is a rocky planet. Also, if Adrastea gives off dust and dirt, wouldn't Jupiter give off dust and dirt when it got hit by comet pieces? It didn't act like a gas planet when it got huge black spots over the places where it was hit by the String of Pearls, did it?

Incoming e-mail, Re: Response to you posted to Five Doves

First fruits is ALWAYS ....according to Lev 23...the FIRST "morrow after the Sabbath" from Passover DAY.....

Pentecost is the SECOND 'morrow after the Sabbath" from Passover DAY....50 days later...

Lev 23:10: Speak unto the children of Israel, and say unto them, When ye be come into the land which I give unto you, and shall reap the harvest thereof, then ye shall bring a sheaf of the firstfruits of your harvest unto the priest: 11: And he shall wave the sheaf before the LORD, to be accepted for you: on the morrow after the Sabbath the priest shall wave it. 15: And ye shall count unto you from the morrow after the Sabbath, from the day that ye brought the sheaf of the wave offering; seven Sabbaths shall be complete: 16: Even unto the morrow after the seventh Sabbath shall ye number fifty days; and ye shall offer a new meat offering unto the LORD.

And by the way. April 21st is on a Monday this year. So in light of the above verses it can not be Firstfruits.

My reply

Here is the way I see it. God planned everything before he created Adam. Therefore, when he told Israel to keep the feasts, he thought in terms of the time that they would be fulfilled. Passover (Nisan 14), Unleavened Bread (Nisan 15) and Firstfruits (Nisan 16) were three successive days when they were fulfilled in 30 AD. Jesus raised up the temple of his body in three days.

Firstfruits was on the morrow after the Sabbath two ways. Sunday was the day after the Saturday Sabbath, and the day after the Unleavened Bread Sabbath. Every feast is an annual Sabbath. Passover is a high day, or a high Sabbath.

Since Jesus was resurrected on the third day, I think Firstfruits should also be on the third day. If it was 5 days later, it would not picture the resurrection correctly. To do that, it would have to always be on the 2nd day of Unleavened Bread. That always is the morrow after a Sabbath no matter what day of the week it is. Agape

Incoming e-mail, Re: The Jews seek after a sign? Look At The Menorah, 7+15+4=26 Genisis 32:24-30vr, 10+5+19+21+19=74

From: Anthony
Praise The Lord To All;

The answer you are looking for is in God Hands, ONLY BELIEVE.
One should take a look at this mystery/secret? hidden from the world but reveal to His beloved. Jesus=10+5+19+21+19=74 Messiah=13+5+19+19+9+1+8=74 Menorah=13+5+14+15+18+1+8=74 Cross=3+18+15+19+19=74 Joshua=10+15+19+8+21+1=74 Tony=20+15+14+25=74+God=7+15+4=26 =100=1Whole=Completion=Everything=All Power (74 is 26) reveal to the Blood brought ones.
From: tony
Subject: The Jews seek after a sign? Look At The Menorah, 7+15+4=26 Genisis 32:24-30vr,

Praise The Lord To All;
It is my heart desire that all would come to grip with the ONE and ONLY TRUE GOD, the God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob who is my EVERYTHING who have taught me by HIS SPIRIT to search out the deep things concerning Himself, lets take a look at His Days, The Feast of The Lord, there are 7-days in a week, there are 7-candle sticks regarding the Menorah. The 1st Day is liken unto the Passover, The 2nd Day is liken unto Unleaven Bread, The 3rd Day is liken unto First Fruits, The 4th Day is liken unto Pentecost, The 5th Day is Liken unto The blowing of the Trumpets, The 6th Day is liken unto the Day of Atonement, The 7th Day is liken unto The Feast of Tabernacle, every one of these Days points mankind to his creator,

It is my understanding that the candle light in the center of the Menorah is the one which is use to light up the other 6 candles, let's dwell for a moment on the LIGHT OF THE WORLD who have come into the world to light everyone who will allow HIM to come in, if you would for a moment take a look at our alphabet you will see we have 26 letters in which words are formed from, for instance, we begin with the letter A and end with the Letter Z you have a total of 26 letters now if we would begin with God who is our Everything and tally up this name in it's order G is the 7th letter O is the 15th letter and D is the 4th letter of our alphabet, you will have a sum of 26= (God) our Father (Spirit) now, let's look at our Messiah and begin with the letter M which is the 13th letter of our alphabet and so on, 5+19+19+9+1+8, you will have a sum of 74, now if one would add the sums together we will arrive at 100 or 1-whole, we know the one who wrestler with Jacob all night long is God, who change Jacob name to Israel, but would not reveal His name unto Jacob at that time, Genesis 32:24th-30th verse, well let's go back to the Menorah=13+5+14+15+18+1+8=74 when I look at the Menorah I see not only Sunday, Monday, Tuesday, but let's pause here at the center/middle of the week/menorah, (Wednesday) by the way saints, this is the Day in which our praying forefather was led by the Holy Ghost to designate as our unified fast Day? for the Pentecostal Assemblies of the World Inc, well since we are familiar with the law of relativity I suppose, let us disect this center piece and see what we will discover, W, which is the 23rd letter of our alphabet and so on + 5 + 4 + 14 + 5 + 19 + 4 + 1 + 25 you will have a sum of 100 or may we inject 1-Whole or Completeness, or Everything, or All, Nothing Lacking, I hope you get the picture God is woven into Everything, He should be the center of our joy as HE is the illuminator of the Church triumphant, (The Wheat Indeed) as many as are led by the Spirit of God, they are the sons of God. The Holy Ghost fell on the Day Of Pentecost the 4th Day which is the LIGHT OF LIFE invested in us (His Bride) that should illuminate everyone of us who continue to follow and be led of the Holy One of Israel, read Revelation 1:13th-20th verse, and see if the ONE in the midst of the SEVEN GOLDEN CANDLE STICKS is 26 AND 74 = 100. Both Lord and Christ? read; ACTS 2:36th-38th verse.

My reply

I have never had an urge to add up numbers like this, especially using English letters, except for 666 in Hebrew or Greek. It is just not my thing. I'm more interested in learning what the words themselves mean, what the symbols stand for, and the dates they indicate for coming events. I'll give you some examples of the kind of things I have been after ever since 1960, some are things that no one else seems to have figured out. However, as it turns out, the meaning of the number SEVEN is emphasized over and over. It is God's number of completion and perfection.

The lampstand that was used in the Temple has SEVEN lamps. Josephus was a Pharisee priest. He said that it represented the planets, including the Sun. So the western lamp that was to always be kept lit represented the Sun. Here is the lineup, and Earth is in the center: Sun, Mercury, Venus, Earth, Mars, Jupiter and Saturn (Paradise, the third Heaven Paul was caught up to in II Cor. 12:1,2). It is easy to see that the semi-circular branches of the lampstand represent the circular orbits of the planets. They do look like lamps in the dark sky, and their orbits are like wheels within wheels.

In Ant. III. VI. 7, Josephus said of the lampstand, "It was made with its knops, and lilies, and pomegranates, and bowls, (which ornaments amounted to SEVENTY [10 x 7] in all;) by which means the shaft elevated itself into as many branches as there are planets (i.e., naked-eye planets), including the sun among them. It terminated in SEVEN heads, in one row, all standing parallel to one another (probably because their orbits are in the same plane); and these branches carried SEVEN lamps, one by one, in imitation of the number of the planets. These lamps looked to the east and to the south, the candlestick being situate obliquely."

The Hanukkah Menorah is different. There are nine candleholders, the center one being higher than the others. It is called the servant candle, and is used to light the other candles, one for each day of Hanukkah.

There is another lineup that interests me, so much that I spent 7 years reading man's books about the Bible in the Seminary Collection at BIOLA library and still didn't find the answer. I had to ask God to show me. I said I wanted to know all the deep things, everything about the Bible.

Here is what he helped me figure out in Ezekiel's visions in chapters 1 and 10. He looked up in the sky and saw what are called cherubim (lively things). They all flew in concentric circles, wheels within wheels, as they rotated. One wheel was on the Earth, so the Earth is one of the cherubim. That's clear, but no one seemed to catch on. The four cherubim represent the four terrestrial planets, of which Earth is one. They all orbit in concentric circles. Above their heads, i.e., farther out in space than the four cherubim, is Saturn. Here Jupiter is passed over without mention.

On Saturn is Jesus' throne. In verse 1, Ezekiel said, "the heavens were opened, and I saw visions of GOD." God's throne is on Saturn. How do we know it is Jesus' throne? because he is called both God and man in Ezekiel 1.

Eze. 1:26-28 says, "above the firmament (expanse of space) that was over their heads was the likeness (symbolic language) of a throne, as (symbolic language) the appearance of a SAPPHIRE stone (symbolizing Heaven): and upon the likeness of the throne was the likeness (symbolic language) as the appearance of a MAN above upon it. And I saw as the colour of amber (Saturn has amber on it), as the appearance of fire round about within it, from the appearance of his loins (from the equator) even upward, and from the appearance of his loins (from the equator) even downward, I saw as it were the appearance of fire, and it had brightness round about (i.e., Saturn's SEVEN rings). As the appearance of the bow that is in the cloud in the day of rain, so was the appearance of the brightness round about. This was the appearance of the likeness (symbolic language) of the glory of the LORD." Heaven has a halo. Both the rainbow and Saturn's rings are made up of ice crystals. The colors flash when sunlight hits them.

Think about the symbol sapphire. We still use it as September's birthstone. It stands for Heaven, and Jesus was born in September, on the Feast of Trumpets, so his birthstone is the sapphire. Sapphire means dear to the planet Saturn, from the sanskrit Sani, Saturn, and priya, dear. Mt. Sinai represented Heaven, and Sinai is probably derived from Sani, Saturn. Shouldn't we just know that God's planet would be the seventh? Seven is God's number. It means completion and perfection. The Lord is perfect, and his planet is perfect. It is a better place.

Ex. 24:10 says that at Mt. Sinai, "they saw the God of Israel (the preincarnate Christ, the Redeemer; Isaiah 44:6): and there was UNDER HIS FEET AS IT WERE (or as if it were, symbolic language) A PAVED WORK OF A SAPPHIRE STONE, and as it were (as if it were) the body of heaven (or heavenly body) in his (or its) clearness."

The sapphire symbol of Heaven holds true in Eze. 28:13 too. Referring to Satan, it says, "Thou hast been in Eden the garden of God (on Earth, the middle lamp of the lampstand); every precious stone was thy covering (surroundings), the sardius (Mercury), topaz (Venus, on the left), and the diamond (Earth), the beryl (Mars), the onyx (Satan's planet Rahab that split and formed our Asteroid Belt), and the jasper (Jupiter), the sapphire (Saturn), the emerald (Uranus), and the carbuncle (Neptune), and gold" (Pluto, on the right). Those are the original ten planets that God symbolically flung from his ten fingers.

Now that we know what cherubim are, let's look at Genesis 3:24. It says, "So he drove out the man; and he placed at the east of the garden of Eden Cherubims, and a flaming sword which turned every way, to keep the way of (or to) the tree of life." The tree of life is now in Heaven (Rev. 22:14). What is the flaming sword?

This is another lineup. Earth, Mars, THE FLAMING SWORD, Jupiter and Saturn. In other words, the flaming sword is an asteroid from the Asteroid Belt, where Satan's planet once orbited. Why are they east of the garden of Eden? Planets rise in the east. The flaming sword that turns every way (rotates and orbits) guards the path from Earth to Heaven. 1 Chron. 21:16 fits this lineup. It says, "David lifted up his eyes, and saw the angel of the LORD (i.e., the preincarnate Christ) stand between the earth and the heaven, having a drawn sword in his hand stretched out over Jerusalem." The Sword of the Lord is the asteroid called Wormwood in Rev. 8:8-11.

Isaiah 51:9 says, "Awake, awake, put on strength, O arm of the LORD (Christ, Isa. 52:10; 53:1); awake, as in the ancient days, in the generations of old (i.e., before Adam). Art thou not it that hath cut (split) Rahab (Satan's planet), and wounded the dragon (Satan)?"

God uses types, signs and symbols to teach us. Before Jerusalem and the Temple were destroyed in 70 AD, Josephus said that a comet shaped like a sword hung over Jerusalem a whole year. If I remember right, that year was 66 AD.

The asteroid Wormwood will be thrown to Earth like a ball on the Day of God's Wrath. Isaiah 22:16-19 says, "What hast thou here? (Babylon) and whom hast thou here (the Satan-possessed False Prophet), that thou hast hewed thee out a sepulchre here, as he (Satan) that heweth him out a sepulchre on high, and that graveth an habitation for himself in a rock (the asteroid, after Rahab exploded)? Behold, the LORD will carry thee away with a mighty captivity, and will surely cover thee. He will surely violently turn and TOSS THEE LIKE A BALL into a large country (not tiny Israel): there shalt thou die, and there the chariots of thy glory shall be the shame of thy lord's house. And I will drive thee from thy station, and from thy state shall he pull thee down."

Eze. 10:1,2 says, "Then I looked, and, behold, in the firmament (expanse of space) that was above the head of the cherubims (terrestrial planets) there appeared over them (farther out in space, but in the same orbital plane) as it were a sapphire stone (Saturn, Heaven), as the appearance of the likeness of a throne (Jesus'). And he (Jesus) spake unto the man clothed with linen, and said, Go in between the wheels, even under the cherub (Satan), and fill thine hand with coals of fire from between the cherubims (i.e., in the Asteroid Belt), and scatter them over the city. And he went in in my sight." Jerusalem will have coals of fire scattered over her, but the mountain-sized asteroid piece of Rev. 8:8 will hit the Mediterranean Sea. There will be a tsunami too, an overflowing shower.

Eze 38:22 says, "I will plead against him (Gog) with pestilence and with blood; and I will rain upon him, and upon his bands (his army), and upon the many people that are with him, an overflowing rain (lit., shower), and great hailstones, fire, and brimstone."

The star (aster, star, meteorite or asteroid, i.e., Wormwood) of Rev. 8:10,11 will destroy Babylon on the day of God's wrath. Rev. 18:21 says, "a mighty angel took up a STONE like a great millstone, and cast it into the sea, saying, Thus with violence shall that great city Babylon be thrown down, and shall be found no more at all."

Christ will pull out every Christian, and all children, as the Day of God's Wrath begins. That is the Pre-Wrath "LAST TRUMP" Rapture of I Cor. 15:51,52. Thus, God's wrath will only fall on non believers. The first Rapture will be at the FIRST TRUMP, as in I Thess. 4:16,17. It will be before the Tribulation. I am hoping it will be April 26, 2008 (Nisan 21, 5768), on the SEVENTH day of Unleavened Bread. There will be SEVEN years between the two Raptures. (2008 + 7 = 2015).

Why do I pick Nisan 21 (3 x 7), the SEVENTH day of Unleavened Bread for the Rapture?

When the Israelites' 40 years were over, they walked into the promised land dry-shod. God set apart the 40 years with huge miracles. On one end, he piled up the waters of the Red Sea so Israel could cross dry-shod. On the other end, he piled up the waters of the Jordan River so Israel could cross dry-shod. They passed over Jordan on Nisan 10, the day the Passover lambs were chosen. The book of Joshua tells us about their taking the city of Jericho. It gives the dates, and is very symbolic. They circled the city SEVEN days, and SEVEN times on the SEVENTH day. That is like God circled Jericho on the map 13 times to emphasize it. Why else would they circle the city so many times?

Joshua 4:23 says, "For the LORD your God dried up the waters of Jordan from before you, until ye were passed over, as the LORD your God did to the Red sea, which he dried up from before us, until we were gone over".

Joshua 4:19 says, "the people came up out of Jordan on the TENTH day of the first month (NISAN 10), and encamped in Gilgal (meaning a wheel, rolling, i.e., like a wheel of time), in the east border of Jericho" (meaning his Moon or month). Jesus' month is Nisan, the month of the Crucifixion, Resurrection and Second Advent.

Joshua 5:10 says, "the children of Israel encamped in Gilgal, and kept the PASSOVER on the FOURTEENTH (2 x 7) day of the month (NISAN 14) at even in the plains of Jericho."

Joshua 6:12-16 says, "Joshua rose early in the morning, and the priests took up the ark of the LORD. And SEVEN priests bearing SEVEN trumpets of rams' horns BEFORE THE ARK OF THE LORD (the 2 stone tablets in it represent the two main pieces of the asteroids of Rev. 8:8-11; that's why Moses broke the first tablets because the Israeelites broke the commandments) went on continually, and BLEW WITH THE TRUMPETS: and the armed men went before them; but the rereward came after the ark of the LORD, the priests going on, and blowing with the TRUMPETS. And the second day they compassed the city once, and returned into the camp: so they did six days (six is the number of man). And it came to pass on the SEVENTH day (Nisan 21 [3 X 7], the SEVENTH day of Unleavened Bread), that they rose early about the DAWNING of the day, and compassed the city after the same manner SEVEN times: only on that day they compassed the city SEVEN times. And it came to pass at the SEVENTH time, when the priests blew with the TRUMPETS, Joshua said unto the people, SHOUT; for the LORD hath given you the city." The wall fell down and they took Jericho.

To me, it is as if God circled Jericho on the map thirteen times, once a day for six days, then SEVEN a day on the SEVENTH day, and it followed the 40 years in the desert.

In our days, we are standing between the 40 years since the Six-Day War and the Pre-Trib First-trump Rapture. Do you think it will take place on Nisan 21? I think God symbolized that at Jericho. Nisan 21 will be April 26, 2008.

If the First-Trump Rapture takes place in 2008 (5768) the Last-Trump Rapture should take place SEVEN years later, in 2015 (5776). That's perfect, because 5776 is a Leap Year with a 13th month. There are the necessary SEVEN months (Eze. 39:12,13) between the Day of God's Wrath on the Feast of Trumpets on Tishri 1 (Sept. 14, 2015) and the Second Advent on Nisan 1 (April 9, 2016).

These are the things I like to spend my time on. I hope you have enjoyed the trip too. That Bible is so packed with information, God had to write it. No man could have put so much information in so few words. There is so much there that we never run out of something to try to figure out. Agape

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