Pro and Con 1398

Posted 3-25-08

Jupiter does not have the hex shape at its north pole that Saturn has at both poles

  

Incoming e-mail, Re: BLUE SKIES OF SATURN

I saw something this morning that I immediately knew would interest you:

VANISHING RINGS: Amateur astronomers around the world have noticed, something is happening to Saturn. The planet's rings are rapidly narrowing and, if this continues, before long they'll be a wafer-thin line almost invisible to backyard telescopes. Get the full story from Science@NASA.

http://science.nasa.gov/headlines/y2008/18mar_saturn.htm

My reply

You are right. I'm interested in knowing as much as possible about Saturn. I knew that periodically, we see the rings as a narrow line. What is astonishing is that there is as much blue sky there as this picture shows. It says that "for some reason clouds at high northern latitudes have cleared, revealing a dome of surprising blue.

Saturn's blue northern sky

"For years, only Cassini has enjoyed this view because from Earth, the blue top of Saturn was hidden behind the rings. No more: "Now that Saturn's rings are only open 8 degrees, we can finally view its northern hemisphere's beautiful teal blue colored belts and zones, which really did look blue through my 10-inch telescope," reports Dan Petersen of Racine, Wisconsin, who took this picture on Feb. 24, 2008."

The full story: http://science.nasa.gov/headlines/y2005/17feb_bluesaturn.htm

"Blue Skies on Saturn

"NASA's Cassini spacecraft has discovered another world with blue skies: Saturn.

"February 17, 2005: Fast forward 100 years: You're an astronaut piloting an airplane in the upper atmosphere of Saturn. The gas giant has no solid surface to walk on and no seas to put a boat in. Exploring Saturn means flying, dipping in and out of strangely-colored clouds, racing through ring shadows. It's a totally alien world."

That gave me mixed emotions. I'm excited to know there is so much blue sky, but am sad to read that "The gas giant has no solid surface to walk on". I don't believe that for a second. Psalm 27:5 says, "in the time of trouble he shall hide me in his pavilion: in the secret of his tabernacle shall he hide me; HE SHALL SET ME UP UPON A ROCK." Psalm 40:2 says, "He brought me up (i.e., as at the Rapture) also out of an horrible pit, out of the miry clay (i.e., out of these earthly bodies), and SET MY FOOT UPON A ROCK, and established my goings." Psalm 61:2 days, "From the end of the earth will I cry unto thee, when my heart is overwhelmed: lead me to THE ROCK that is higher than I."

What would keep a ball of gas from disappearing into space? Gravity. What produces gravity? Mass, i.e., a rocky core. Saturn and Jupiter both give off more heat than they receive from the Sun. Therefore, they have internal heat. What usually produces heat in planets? Radioactive materials in their rocky cores.

Exodus 24:10 says that at Sinai, a type of Heaven, "they saw the God of Israel (the Lord of Hosts, the Redeemer, the Pre-incarnate Christ, Isa. 44:6): and there was under his feet as (symbolic language) it were A PAVED WORK OF A SAPPHIRE STONE, and as it were (symbolic language) the body of heaven (heavenly body) in his (or its) clearness." Sapphire, because it is Jesus' birthstone (September's birthstone, meaning Heaven). It is a symbolic stone, and sapphire is used, because the word means "dear to the planet Saturn," from the Sanskrit Sani, Saturn, and priya, dear. Since Mt. Sinai represented Heaven, the word Sinai is probably derived from Sani, Saturn. It is also interesting that Jesus is Lord of the Sabbath, Shabbat, and the Hebrew word for Saturn is Shabbatai. He is also Lord of the planet Saturn.
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Enceladus' Cometary Plumes
Wallace Thornhill, 12 March 2008
http://www.thunderbolts.info/thunderblogs/thornhill.htm

...Susan Kieffer, a geology professor and planetary scientist at the University of Illinois at Urbana-Champaign, observed, "This tiny satellite should be cold and inactive, like our own moon. But it isn't." Modeling the maximum heat available from tidal distortion and radiogenic heating from a rocky core fails by an order of magnitude to explain the energy of the plumes. It also fails to explain the concentration of heat at Enceladus’ south pole. So, what if Kieffer’s intuition was correct and Enceladus is "cold and inactive?" Could the measured heat and the energy to drive the plumes come from space?...

"Only, in the case of Enceladus, the energy source for the geyser-like activity is believed to be due to internal heating by perhaps radioactivity and tides rather than the sunlight which causes cometary jets."...

Incoming e-mail, Re: Reign Down USA, April 26, 2008

Thank you so much for all your wonderful and brilliant work on the second coming of our Lord! I find it very interesting that Reign Down USA is April 26, the day you are predicting to be the Rapture. RDU seems to be a great movement of the Lord in our nation. What do you think of the fact that the dates are the same???

My reply

Thanks for your kind words.

That REIGNdown USA is the same date blows my mind. It makes me think all the more that the Rapture will happen at that time, my husband is thinking that way too. I'm not a prophet. I can be wrong. But this one tie-in on top of everything else makes me think it will take place this time.

As far as I can determine, REIGNdown USA's securing that date had no connection with my thoughts about that date. I first wrote about April 26, 2008 on Dec. 23, 2007. After that, someone told me that the date this year that the Holy Fire is due to come down at the Church of the Holy Sepulcher was April 26. I was excited to hear that. Wow!

Then, I heard about Shawn-Marie Cole's vision, and After that, the Lord telling her, "It's time." After that, she talked to President Bush, and I don't know how it happened, but next thing I know, she has the Mall in Washington, DC, for prayers for this nation on that date. Maybe the president had someone get the mall for her, and the mall set that as an available date; I don't know. But to me, it looks like the Lord arranged it to be set on that date for his own reasons.

Shawn-Marie's vision included the brilliant white light that she saw wipe this nation, then Canada and Mexico, then go on toward the middle east. She saw people get out of their wheel chairs, healed. She said a homeless man she saw lying on the sidewalk wasn't there any more. It all sounds so much like the Rapture.

If the Rapture happens while these groups of people are gathered together to pray for this nation, those left behind would see whole groups of people going up. That would make believers out of them, and a great multitude that no one can count will be saved during the Tribulation. They will go up in the second Rapture (Rev. 7:9,14).

Many will see the first Rapture take place, fear, and trust in the Lord. Psa. 40:1-3 says, "I waited patiently (Rev. 3:10) for the LORD; and he inclined (bent down) unto me, and heard my cry. He brought me up also out of an horrible pit (like Jeremiah), out of the miry clay (our bodies of clay), and set my feet upon a rock (Heaven), and established my goings (the Rapture). And he hath put a NEW SONG (Rev. 5:9) in my mouth, even praise unto our God: MANY SHALL SEE IT, AND FEAR, AND SHALL TRUST IN THE LORD."

I think this event could cause many to see it, and fear, and trust in the Lord. This all seems like different pieces of the same overall plan.

I just put the third picture of the blue lightning on Pro and Con 1397. A different section of wall is blue. Agape

A post on the Five-Doves site, Re: "Put oil in my lamp, keep it burning......How to."

Frank R Molver (15 Mar 2008)

This is an old Christian song. Today we are told it is irrelevant by some, that we do not need to prepare, clean house, stay awake or be ready. That is a lie.

How to have oil put in your lamp.

If you listen and do what the Holy spirit is telling you to do.
He will put oil in your lamp.

If you forgive others and apologize to others.
He will put oil in your lamp.

If you pay back the debts you owe, the ones you have been ignoring.
He will put oil in your lamp.

If you tithe to the church so the gospel can be spread to the unsaved.
He will put oil in your lamp.

If you pray for your enemies and the unsaved.
He will put oil in your lamp.

If you yield to Jesus and give him your habitual sin.
He will put oil in your lamp.

If you stop complaining and criticizing.
He will put oil in your lamp.

etc etc Got oil?

My reply

Here is more on how wise virgins can increase the level of the oil of the Holy Spirit in us.

2 Peter 1:4-11 says, "Whereby are given unto us exceeding great and precious promises: that by these ye might be PARTAKERS OF THE DIVINE NATURE (i.e., oil of the Holy Spirit), having escaped the corruption that is in the world through lust. And beside this, giving all diligence, add to your faith virtue; and to virtue knowledge; And to knowledge temperance; and to temperance patience; and to patience godliness; And to godliness brotherly kindness; and to brotherly kindness charity. For if these things be in you, and abound, they make you that ye shall neither be barren nor unfruitful in the knowledge of our Lord Jesus Christ. But he that lacketh these things is blind (like the lukewarm Laodiceans), and cannot see afar off (Heaven), and hath forgotten that he was purged from his OLD SINS (i.e., wiped off the slate when we accept Christ). Wherefore the rather, brethren (i.e., believers), give diligence to make your calling and election sure: for if ye do these things, ye shall never fall: For so an entrance shall be ministered unto you abundantly into the everlasting kingdom of our Lord and Saviour Jesus Christ. "

It is my understanding that old sins are under the blood when we accept Christ, but new sins after that need to be confessed to also bring them under the blood of Christ. This is how the Tribulation saints wash their robes in the blood of Christ. Rev. 7:14 says, "These are they which came out of great tribulation, and have washed their robes, and made them white in the blood of the Lamb."

I John 1:4-9 says, "these things write we unto you, that your joy may be full. This then is the message which we have heard of him, and declare unto you, that God is light, and in him is no darkness (i.e., no sin) at all. If we say that we have fellowship with him, and walk in darkness, we lie, and do not the truth: But if we walk in the light, as he is in the light, we have fellowship one with another, and the blood of Jesus Christ his Son cleanseth us from all sin. If we say that we have no sin, we deceive ourselves, and the truth is not in us. IF WE CONFESS OUR SINS, he is faithful and just to forgive us our sins, and to cleanse us from all unrighteousness."

We want to be called, and chosen and faithful.

Mt. 20:16 says, "many be called, but few chosen. Mt. 22:14 says, "For many are called, but few are chosen."

Right after the Pre-Trib Rapture, Rev. 17:14 says of Christ, "he is Lord of lords, and King of kings', then adds, "and they that ARE WITH HIM are called, and chosen, and faithful." Agape

Incoming e-mail, Re: Rapture and 2nd coming dates

I have followed your ministry with interest...... I believe that Daniel 12:11-12 has shown us the exact day of the year ( but not what year) for the 2nd coming....If I told you "from the time of the 2008 election and the inauguration is 3 months" you would immediately understand there was 3 months between the 2 events.
Likewise Daniel says:
Dan 12:11 And from the time [that] the daily [sacrifice] shall be taken away, and the abomination that maketh desolate set up, [there shall be] a thousand two hundred and ninety days.

Dan 12:12 Blessed [is] he that waiteth, and cometh to the thousand three hundred and five and thirty days.

literally there is 1290 days between when the daily [sacrifice] shall be taken away at mid trib and when the abomination that maketh desolate IS set up...... read the Tanakh.......

then we are told to wait 45 days after the abomination that maketh desolate IS set up untill the 2nd coming........

the Abomination and every dreadful thing to happen to Israel has always been on the 9th of AV, so the 2nd coming must be 45 days after the 9th of AV, just before Tabernacles......

Jesus first comes to Petra to reveal himself to Israel, then on Tabernacles He goes to Jerusalem......

Isa 63:1 Who [is] this that cometh from Edom, with dyed garments from Bozrah? this [that is] glorious in his apparel, travelling in the greatness of his strength? I that speak in righteousness, mighty to save.

As far as the Rapture date, this is my opinion:

The Rapture will happen when..."

The timing of the rapture is determined by our free will faithfulness......The moment we witness to and through the power of the Holy Spirit get the last member of the church saved, the trumpet will sound..... You see, every one of Jesus sheep will hear the gospel and follow HIM.

John 10:27 My sheep hear my voice, and I know them, and they follow me:

John 10:28 And I give unto them eternal life; and they shall never perish, neither shall any [man] pluck them out of my hand.

John 10:29 My Father, which gave [them] me, is greater than all; and no [man] is able to pluck [them] out of my Father's hand.

John 10:30 I and [my] Father are one.

The few number of people accepting Jesus today is a sign of the soon coming, as almost all the church has been saved. This is a certain, definite pre-ordained number,,People that were for-ordained before the foundation before the foundation of the world to be saved... If you are not faithful in witnessing to your neighbor, the rapture is put on hold until GOD finds someone willing to witness to him so that through his own free will he gets saved.

Both free will and predestination are true and are at work here.


Now Matthew in ch 24 says the people who see the events of 1948 will be around as a generation at HIS 2nd coming................the 12 year olds (age of accountability) in 1948 will be 79 years old 7 years from NOW !!!! remember 3 score years and 10 or fourscore if you have the strength??? so I guess within a year from now--- Before Tabernacles!!!

My reply

> > I believe that Daniel 12:11-12 has shown us the exact day of the year ( but not what year) for the 2nd coming

> > Dan 12:11 And from the time [that] the daily [sacrifice] shall be taken away, and the abomination that maketh desolate set up, [there shall be] a thousand two hundred and ninety days.

> > Dan 12:12 Blessed [is] he that waiteth, and cometh to the thousand three hundred and five and thirty days.

I think the 1290 days shows us that the final year will be a Leap Year. The estimated time for a 3.5 year span without taking into consideration Leap Years is 1260 days. If one of those years is a Leap Year, the estimated time would be 1290 days.

I think Eze. 39:12,13 shows us that the LAST YEAR, the year of the Day of God's Wrath and the Second Advent, will be a Jewish Leap Year, because there are 7 months between Tishri 1, the Day of God's Wrath, and the following Nisan 1, the Second Advent.

Eze. 39:12,13 says, "SEVEN MONTHS shall the house of Israel be burying of them, that they may cleanse the land. Yea, all the people of the land shall bury them; and it shall be to them a renown the day that I shall be glorified (i.e., at the Second Advent), saith the Lord GOD."

Jesus Christ is both man and God. He is the Lord GOD, the King of Israel, YHWH of hosts, and the Redeemer. Isa. 44:6 says, "Thus saith the LORD (YHWH) the King of Israel, and his redeemer the LORD (YHWH) of hosts; I am the first (YHWH King of Israel), and I am the last (YHWH of hosts, the redeemer); and beside me there is no God."

> > literally there is 1290 days between when the daily [sacrifice] shall be taken away at mid trib and when the abomination that maketh desolate IS set up

I think the abomination is set up Mid-Trib, and Christ will return 7 months after the Day of God's Wrath. The 1290 days date from the setting up of the abomination that maketh desolate." Dan 12:11 says, "And from the time that the daily sacrifice shall be taken away, and the abomination that maketh desolate set up, there shall be a thousand two hundred and ninety days."

> > then we are told to wait 45 days after the abomination that maketh desolate IS set up untill the 2nd coming

1335 - 1290 = 45 days, but the 1335th day is when Daniel will stand in his own plot of ground in Israel. The Second Advent will precede that.

> > the Abomination and every dreadful thing to happen to Israel has always been on the 9th of AV, so the 2nd coming must be 45 days after the 9th of AV, just before Tabernacles

I think Yeshua/Jesus, the King of kings and Lord of lords, will be inaugurated on Nisan 1, the first day of the Regnal and Sacred Calendar, as the other Hebrew kings were.

> > Now Matthew in ch 24 says the people who see the events of 1948 will be around as a generation at HIS 2nd coming................the 12 year olds (age of accountability) in 1948 will be 79 years old 7 years from NOW !!!! remember 3 score years and 10 or fourscore if you have the strength??? so I guess within a year from now--- Before Tabernacles!!!

The Parable of the fig tree in Mt. 24:32-34 says, "Now learn a parable of the fig tree (Israel, Joel 1:6,7); When his branch (klados, scion broken off for grafting, i.e., modern Israel) is yet tender (apalos, young, i.e., no more than 19), and putteth forth leaves (Gaza Strip, Sinai, Golan Heights and West Bank in the Six-Day War of 1967), ye know that summer is nigh (the war started June 5; summer arrived June 21): So likewise ye, when ye shall see all these things, know that it (the Kingdom of God; Luke 21:31) is near, even at the doors (i.e., the two Raptures). Verily I say unto you, This generation shall not pass, till all these things be fulfilled."

We have two lengths of a generation, 40 years, as when Israel was in the desert, and 48.33 years, as in Mt. 1:17. I think the 40 years gives a general idea of when the Pre-Trib Rapture will take place, and the 48.33 years gives us a general idea of when the Pre-Wrath Rapture will take place. 1967 + 40 = 2007, and 1967 + 48.33 = 2015.33.

I expect the 1st Rapture on Nisan 21, 5768, the 7th day of Unleavened Bread (April 26, 2008). I expect the 2nd Rapture on Tishri 1, 5776 (Monday, Sept 24, 2015), just before God's Wrath falls on the unbelievers left behind.

The First Trump Rapture (see I Thess. 4:16,17)

Nisan 21 is when the Israelites were given Jericho after circling it 7 times on the 7th day. We are headed for New Jerusalem on Saturn/Heaven, and it has 7 rings around it.

Zecharias 3:9,10 (LXX) says, "Hear now, Jesus the high priest, thou, and thy neighbours that are sitting before thee: for they are diviners, for, behold, I bring forth my servant The Branch (i.e., Jesus). 10 For as for the stone (i.e., planet) which I have set before the face of Jesus, on the one stone (planet) are seven eyes" (orbs, circles, rings).

Jezekiel/Ezekiel 1:25-28 (LXX) says, "And lo! a voice from above the firmament that was over their head (i.e., farther out in space than the 4 terrestrial planets whose orbits are like wheels withing wheels), there was as the appearance of a SAPPHIRE stone, and the likeness of a THRONE upon it: and upon the likeness of the throne was the likeness as an appearance of a man (Yeshua/Jesus, both man and God; Jezekiel 1:1) above. And I saw as it were the resemblance of amber (Saturn is amber) from the appearance of the loins (from the equator) and upwards, and from the appearance of the loins (from the equator) and under I saw an appearance of fire, and the brightness thereof round about (i.e., Saturn's rings). As the appearance of the bow when it is in the cloud in days of rain, so was the form of brightness round about." Both the rainbow and Saturn's rings are made of ice crystals.

Exodus 24:10 (LXX) says, "And they saw the place where THE GOD OF ISRAEL stood; and UNDER HIS FEET was as it were a work of SAPPHIRE slabs (i.e., sapphire is Jesus' birthstone, for September, meaning Heaven), and as it were the appearance of the firmament of HEAVEN in its purity."

The Last Trump Rapture (I Cor. 15:51,52)

It is on Tishri 1, the Day of God's Wrath. Rev. 6:17 says, "For the great day of his wrath is come; and who shall be able to stand?" Rev. 7:14 says, "These are they which came out of GREAT TRIBULATION, and have washed their robes, and made them white in the blood of the Lamb." The 7 angels are not given the trumpet judgments until chapter 8. Agape

Incoming e-mail, Re: remaining happy!

I have read most of your books, and to be honest, at times I was a little mad at you for getting me so excited for certain dates, only to be let down. However, over the years, I have gotten used to it. After a while, I guess the shell toughened up a bit...I don't know if that is good, or bad. As a result of "toughening up", I feel it impossible to get excited over upcoming possibilities...like I would rather not think about it too much. However, without excitement over my Lord's imminent arrival, there isn't anything else to get excited ABOUT!! I mean, that is IT!! How do you do it?

My reply

I have such a hunger to find out what Scripture means that I get excited when things come together and I see one more thing clearly. Agape

Noah’s Ark nestled on Mount Ararat

The Peninsula / BY SATISH KANADY, 1/19/2008
http://www.thepeninsulaqatar.com/Display_news.asp?section=local_news&month=january2008&file=local_news2008011955044.xml

Dogubayazit (Turkey’s Iran-Armenian Border) • For the first time in the seven decade-long history of the search for the legendary Noah’s Ark, a Turkish-Hong Kong exploration team on Tuesday came out with “material evidence”, to prove that the Ark was nestled on Mount Ararat, Turkey’s highest mountain peak bordering Iran and Armenia.

A panel of experts, comprising Turkish authorities, veteran mountaineers, archaeologists, geologists and members of Hong Kong-based Noah’s Ark Ministries International, also displayed an almost one-metre-long peice of petrified wood before the media and specially invited international experts.

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