Pro and Con 1399

Posted 3-25-08

Northern Lights

Incoming e-mail, Re: Five Gamma Ray Bursts 3-19-08 - a record

GRB ID GRB 080319A
Constellation of Scorpius

GRB ID GRB 080319B (this one is the sign, the brightest ever)
Constellation of Canes Venatici (just outside Bootes, which means "HE COMES")

GRB ID GRB 080319C
Constellation of Bootes (meaning "HE COMES")

GRB ID GRB 080319D
Constellation of Draco

GRB ID GRB 080319E
Constellation of Gemini

Incoming e-mail, Re: Questions

Good Morning Dear Sister in the Lord! Once much thanks for your good Biblical teaching and posting on the internet!!!!

Marilyn..could you tell me:

1. When you expect the Two Witnesses (Elijah and Moses) to appear on the earth? At the second half of the tribulation??

2. When do you expect the battle of Armageddon to take place??

Much thanks for your good Biblical insights.
Whew...there is so much to think about and learn..but HEY the Wise (like you Honey), shall understand.!! Hoping to hear from you.

See ya'-- "Here, There, or in the Air"!!!

My reply

Thanks for your kind words.

> > 1. When you expect the Two Witnesses (Elijah and Moses) to appear on the earth? At the second half of the tribulation??

No, at the first of the Tribulation. Rev. 11:3 says, "I will give power unto my two witnesses, and they shall prophesy a thousand two hundred and threescore days, clothed in sackcloth." That is the first half of the Tribulation. They will be killed Mid-Trib. Then after 3.5 days, they will be resurrected and ascend to Heaven.

Rev 11:11-13 says, "And after three days and an half the Spirit of life from God entered into them, and they stood upon their feet; and great fear fell upon them which saw them. And they heard a great voice from heaven saying unto them, Come up hither. And they ascended up to heaven in a cloud; and their enemies beheld them. And the same hour was there a great earthquake, and the tenth part of the city fell, and in the earthquake were slain of men seven thousand: and the remnant were affrighted, and gave glory to the God of heaven."

This earthquake is only at Jerusalem Mid-Trib. The earthquake at the end of the Tribulation is worldwide. Every wall will fall. All cities will be in shambles. The dead will lay around the Earth.

Eze. 38:19-23 says, "For in my jealousy and in the fire of MY WRATH have I spoken, Surely in that day there shall be a great shaking in the land of Israel; So that the fishes of the sea, and the fowls of the heaven, and the beasts of the field, and all creeping things that creep upon the earth, and all the men that are upon the face of the earth, shall shake at my presence (paniym, face, i.e., when they see the Sign of the Son of Man in the sky), and the mountains (asteroids) shall be thrown down (one hits the Mediterranean Sea, the other destroys Babylon; Rev.8:8-10), and the steep places shall fall, and EVERY WALL SHALL FALL to the ground. And I will call for a sword against him throughout all my mountains, saith the Lord GOD: every man's sword shall be against his brother. And I will plead against him with pestilence and with blood; and I will rain upon him, and upon his bands, and upon the many people that are with him, an overflowing rain (shower, i.e., tsunami), and great hailstones, fire, and brimstone. Thus will I magnify myself, and sanctify myself; and I will be known in the EYES of many nations, and they shall know that I am the LORD."

Isn't it a pity that it takes all that to convince some people? At first, one third of the life in the Mediterranean Sea dies, but a bit later on, we see that every living soul dies.

Rev 8:8,9 says, "the second angel sounded, and as it were a great mountain burning with fire was cast into the sea: and the third part of the sea became blood; And the third part of the creatures which were in the sea, and had life, died; and the third part of the ships were destroyed."

Rev 16:3 says, "And the second angel poured out his vial upon the sea; and it became as the blood of a dead man: and every living soul died in the sea."

> > 2. When do you expect the battle of Armageddon to take place??

After Christ returns. It is his forces against Satan's forces. We are involved.

Rev 19:11-16 says, "I saw heaven opened, and behold a white horse; and he that sat upon him was called Faithful and True, and in righteousness he doth judge and make WAR. His eyes were as a flame of fire, and on his head were many crowns; and he had a name written, that no man knew, but he himself. And he was clothed with a vesture dipped in blood: and his name is called The Word of God. And the armies which were in heaven followed him upon white horses, clothed in fine linen, white and clean. And out of his mouth goeth a sharp sword, that with it he should smite the nations: and he shall rule them with a rod of iron: and he treadeth the winepress of the fierceness and wrath of Almighty God. And he hath on his vesture and on his thigh a name written, KING OF KINGS, AND LORD OF LORDS."

R.B. Thieme said that each of us would bump one demon. I have wondered if the number of saved would equal the number of those fallen angels. Maybe we will replace them in the government of God.

Rev 5:9,10 says of the saints, "they sung a new song, saying, Thou art worthy to take the book, and to open the seals thereof: for thou wast slain, and hast redeemed us to God by thy blood out of every kindred, and tongue, and people, and nation; And hast made us unto our God KINGS AND PRIESTS: AND WE SHALL REIGN ON (OR OVER) THE EARTH."

Psa 149:5-9 says, "Let the saints be joyful in glory: let them sing aloud upon their beds. Let the high praises of God be in their mouth, and a twoedged sword in their hand; To execute vengeance upon the heathen, and punishments upon the people; To bind their kings with chains, and their nobles with fetters of iron; To execute upon them the judgment written: this honour have all his saints. Praise ye the LORD."

Changing the subject. In Old Testament times, the shape of Levitical cities resembled Saturn and its rings. The city was in a circle at the center. Suburbs were in a 1000 cubit wide ring outside the city. Fields and vineyards were in a 2000 cubit wide ring outside that. Agape

Here it comes

"High Level Plans To Transform UN Into NWO, By Andrew Grice, 21 Jan 08

Gordon Brown has begun secret talks with other world leaders on far-reaching reform of the United Nations Security Council as part of a drive to create a "new world order" and "global society"....

Mr Brown will unveil a proposal for the UN to spend 100m a year on setting up a "rapid reaction force" to stop "failed states" sliding back into chaos after a peace deal has been reached....

Incoming e-mail

Thanks for sharing your thoughts on this Marilyn...Do you believe there will be some period of time between the catching away of the believers and the seven year peace covenant that the anti-christ makes with Israel and other nations?

My reply

Yes, I think there will be a gap between the Rapture and the beginning of the Tribulation.

The setting of Rev. 13:1-5 is at the beginning of the Tribulation. It says, "I stood upon the sand of the sea, and saw a beast (the great red dragon) rise up out of the sea (nations, Rev. 17:15), HAVING SEVEN HEADS AND TEN HORNS, AND UPON HIS HORNS TEN CROWNS, and upon his heads the name of blasphemy (Pontifex Maximus, the high priest, a title which rightfully belongs only to Christ). And the beast which I saw was like unto a leopard (Greece, Dan. 7:6), and his feet were as the feet of a bear (Media-Persia, Dan. 7:5):, and his mouth as the mouth of a lion (Babylon, Dan. 7:4): and the dragon (Satan) gave him his power, and his seat, and great authority. And I saw one of his heads (the 5th, Imperial Rome) as it were wounded to death; and his deadly wound was healed (6th head, Ecclesiastic Rome): and all the world wondered after the beast. And they worshipped the dragon which gave power unto the beast: and they worshipped the beast, saying, Who is like unto the beast? who is able to make war with him (the Pope)? And there was given unto him a mouth speaking great things and blasphemies; and power was given unto him to CONTINUE forty and two months (1260 days)."

This 42 months is the first half of the 7-year Tribulation. Keep in mind that the 10 horns (kings) are crowned at the beginning of the Tribulation.

Looking next at Rev 17:14, we can see that the Rapture has already taken place. It says, "he (Jesus) is Lord of lords, and King of kings: and THEY THAT ARE WITH HIM ARE CALLED, AND CHOSEN, AND FAITHFUL." We are not with him until the Rapture takes place.

Rev. 17:10-12 says, "And there are seven kings (over 7 kingdoms): five are fallen (Babel, Babylon II, Media-Persia, Greece, and Imperial Rome), and one is (Ecclesiastical Rome), and the other (Babylon III) is not yet come; and when he (the False Prophet) cometh, he must continue a short space (the shortened Great Tribulation). And the beast (Satan, the red dragon) that was (in Judas Iscariot, the 1st son of perdition), and is not (in man at the Rapture), even he (Satan) is the eighth, and is of the seven (controls the 7), and goeth into perdition (the False Prophet, the 2nd son of perdition). AND THE TEN HORNS WHICH THOU SAWEST ARE TEN KINGS, WHICH HAVE RECEIVED NO KINGDOM AS YET; but receive power as kings one hour with the beast."

Therefore, at the time of the Rapture, the 10 kings that are to be crowned at the beginning of the Tribulation do not yet have their kingdoms. To me, that means that there is some time between the Rapture and the beginning of the Tribulation. Since the Temple is there at the beginning of the first 1260 days (Rev. 11:1-3), I think they will build the Temple between the Rapture and the beginning of the Tribulation.

Rev. 11:1-3 says, "And there was given me a reed like unto a rod: and the angel stood, saying, Rise, and measure the TEMPLE of God, and the altar, and them that worship therein. But the court which is without the temple leave out, and measure it not; for it is given unto the Gentiles: and the holy city shall they tread under foot forty and two months. And I will give power unto my two witnesses, and they shall prophesy a thousand two hundred and threescore days, clothed in sackcloth." That 1260 days is the first half of the Tribulation. They are killed Mid-Trib and resurrected and ascend 3.5 days later.

I think the Temple will be built between the Dome of the Rock and the Al Aqsa Mosque, where a fountain and trees are now. The original aquaduct came down to that area. The Great Sea Cisturn is below ground there too.

If I remember right, the foundation of the Temple court's outer northern wall was found 33 feet south of the eastern stairway down from the Dome of the Rock platform. The rock outcropping that is now under the Dome of the Rock was not in the Temple area. According to Josephus, a Pharisee priest, the rock was in Fort Antonia, which occupied the northern half of the Temple Mount. The Temple courts were in the southern half. There is no way that the Holy of Holies could have been over the rock. The rock is wider than the Holy of Holies. Tuvia Sagiv knows where the Temple should be. I think the back wall of the Holy of Holies will probably line up north and south with the Wailing Wall.

The Gentiles will be allowed to walk in the outer court to cross between the Dome of the Rock and the Al Aqsa Mosque. Agape

His reply

I want to thank you for your friendship Marilyn. I am disabled and dont go out much. It is so nice to be able to communicate with someone who loves the Word of God and especially end time prophesy. I am eatten up with a desire to know all I can concerning what will soon come to pass.

My reply

You are so welcome. I am here to answer questions you may have. And, I sure know how it is to want to figure it all out. I've been in that state ever since before 1960. Agape

Incoming e-mail, Re: What is Date of Firstfruits?

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The above site indicates Firstfruits is on 17 Nisan. You appear to think it is 21 Nisan. Why do you say 21 instead of 17? Thanks

My reply

> > Why do you say 21 instead of 17?

I don't. I think Firstfruits is on Nisan 16, and Nisan 21 is the 7th day of Unleavened Bread.

> > Seven Jewish Feasts
> > Nisan 14 (Apr) Passover Supper the Last Supper
> > Nisan 15 The Feast of Unleavened Bread Jesus Crucifixion on this day
> > Nisan 17 The Feast of First Fruits Jesus Resurrection took place on this day

In 30 AD, Nisan 13, the Crucifixion on the Preparation of the Passover, was Thursday. John 19:14-16 says, "IT WAS THE PREPARATION OF THE PASSOVER (i.e., the day they did the cooking for Passover, a high day), and about the sixth hour (9 AM Roman time): and he saith unto the Jews, Behold your King! But they cried out, Away with him, away with him, crucify him. Pilate saith unto them, Shall I crucify your King? The chief priests answered, We have no king but Caesar. Then delivered he him therefore unto them to be crucified."

Nisan 14, Passover, according to Lev. 23:4,5, was Friday.
Nisan 15, 1st day of Unleavened Bread, according to Lev. 23:4,5, was Saturday. Mt. 28:1 says, "In the end of the sabbath (Saturday), as it began to dawn toward the first day of the week (Sunday), came Mary Magdalene and the other Mary to see the sepulchre."
Nisan 16, 2nd day of Unleavened Bread, the Resurrection, Firstfruits, was Sunday.
Nisan 17, 3rd day of Unleavened Bread
Nisan 18, 4th day of Unleavened Bread
Nisan 19, 5th day of Unleavened Bread
Nisan 20, 6th day of Unleavened Bread
Nisan 21, 7th day of Unleavened Bread (probably the Rapture on April 26, 2008)

Mt. 12:40 says, "For as Jonas was three days and three nights in the whale's belly; so shall the Son of man be three days and three nights in the heart of the earth."

Thursday (day 1)
Friday (1st night, then day 2)
Saturday (2nd night, then day 3)
Sunday (3rd night)

That's 3 days and 3 nights.

Everything fits perfectly if we can just remember that Jewish nights precede the days. There were 12 hours of night, then 12 hours of day for each calendar date. Agape

My reply to posts by Steve Berryman on Five Doves site

> > you seemed to be having some health problems and I believe also your husband.

Thanks for your concern. At my 79 and Ed's 83 years (plus a stroke during his 5-bypass heart surgery in 1998, and several TIAs since), we are lucky to be as well as we are. Ed can barely walk though. Having Parkinson's to boot doesn't help.

It's strange, but we both got cataracts in both eyes, and we both got Diabetes. Why both of us? There was no Diabetes anywhere in his family. I think it was because we were being poisoned by the aspertame in the Diet Cokes we were drinking like they were going out of style. After I was off aspertame for a year, most of the feeling came back in my feet. I still have some in my right leg and ankle caused by a virtually non-existant disk in my back. The Doctor agreed that if the numbness had been from Diabetes, the feeling would not have come back. In that case, the nerve endings die.

Ed had cataract surgery, but his corneas are no good, so it didn't help. I keep hoping for the Rapture before I have to have that surgery.

Here is some food for thought after you get rested.

> > The 40 years is measured according to the law of stripes. You may receive 40, but not 41.

The custom was to give 39 in case they miscounted. De. 25:3 says, "Forty stripes he may give him, and not exceed."

> > look at Acts 7, noting verses 23, 30 and 36. (KJV) This is a prophetically significant chapter. It tells us how to reckon the 40.

It was 5 days short of 40 years. Acts 7:36 says, "He brought them out (on Nisan 15), after that he had shewed wonders and signs in the land of Egypt, and in the Red sea, and in the wilderness forty years." Joshua 4:19 says, "the people came up out of Jordan on the tenth day of the first month" (Nisan 10).

> > You can see this by the actual wandering in the wilderness. They departed on a Passover day, the 15th of Abib, the day after the midnight Passover (Exodus 12:51 & 13:4). These verses say they came out of Egypt (out of bondage) on the 15th of Abib. This is the start point. They wandered 40 years. Joshua led them across the Jordan River and into the promised land on the 10th day of the first month (Abib) (Joshua 4:19). They were either 5 days short of 40 years or 5 days short of 41....they crossed over into the promised land 5 days short of the 41st anniversary (stripe). It was between the 40th birthday of departure and the 41st....real close to the 41st.

They were 5 days short of 40 years. Joshua 5:6 says, "the children of Israel walked forty years in the wilderness".

> > it is a real good clue to the rapture date. It will be very close to the 41st birthday of the sign of the Fig Tree. I would bet all I have on it.

Since you think the Rapture will be in May, 2008, you will be happy if it happens on Nisan 21 (April 26, 2008), the anniversary of the day the Israelites were given Jericho. I think they circled Jericho 7 times that day to represent Heaven, Saturn with its 7 rings. Zech. 3:9 (LXX) says, "behold, I bring forth my servant The Branch. For as for the stone (i.e., planet) which I have set before the face of Jesus, on the one stone are seven eyes" (orbs, circles, rings). That is Saturn. In II Cor. 12:2, Paul was caught up to the third heaven, i.e., Mars, Jupiter and Saturn. Josephus, a Pharisee priest, showed that the lamps in the lampstand in the Temple represented (1) Sun, (2) Mercury, (3) Venus, (4) Earth, (5) Mars, (6) Jupiter, and (7) Saturn (Ant. III. VI. 7).

> > The tribulation period: Without a doubt it is a 10 year period (Rev 2:10) plus the difference between the spring and fall feasts (about 10.5 years).

Dan. 9:27 says of the False Prophet, "he shall confirm the covenant with many for ONE WEEK (i.e., 7 year Tribulation): and in the MIDST(dead center, i.e., end of first 3.5 years) OF THE WEEK (7 years) he shall cause the sacrifice and the oblation to cease (i.e., when he sits in the Temple Mid-Trib 'shewing himself that he is God,' II Thess. 2:4), and for the overspreading of abominations (idols) he shall make it (the Temple) desolate, even until the consummation (end of the 7 years), and that determined shall be poured upon the desolate."

Dan. 7:25 says, "And he (the False Prophet) shall speak great words against the most High (YHWH of hosts, the Redeemer, Christ, Isa. 44:6), and shall wear out the saints of the most High, and think to change times and laws: and they shall be given into his hand until a time (1 year) and times (2 years) and the dividing of time (half a year, i.e., 3.5 years total, the last half of the 7-year Tribulation).

Dan 8:13,14 says, "How long shall be the vision concerning the daily sacrifice (first 1260 days), and the transgression of desolation, to give both the sanctuary and the host to be trodden under foot?" (during the last 1040 days of the shortened Tribulation). And he said unto me, Unto two thousand and three hundred days; then shall the sanctuary be cleansed." (1260 + 1040 = 2300)

> > He kills the two witnesses and the tribulation saints are resurrected with them and ascend in a cloud (Rev 11:12).

So that no believer gets hit with the wrath of God, the Raptureof the Tribulation saints is at the END of the shortened Tribulation, when the Day of God's Wrath has come in Rev. 6:17. The Tribulation saints are all (including the 144,000 Israelites) in Heaven in Rev. 7:14, then the 7 trumpets are given to the 7 angels in Rev. 8.

> > The tribulation saints will receive their outpouring of the Holy Spirit on Pentecost and 7 years later will be resurrected on Pentecost

Rev. 6 ends with the day of God's wrath. That is on Trumpets (Joel 1:15:2:1-3). In Rev. 7, the Tribulation saints are raised up on the day of God's wrath so no believer is left on Earth. Then the 7 trumpet judgments are poured out one right after the other on unbelievers on the Day of God's Wrath. That day is also the Day of the LORD.

Rev. 11:15-18 describes that day. First, Christ is crowned in Heaven, then he sits as judge at the Judgment Seat of Christ. Rewards are handed out to believers in Heaven at the same time the asteroids of Rev. 8:8-11 impact Earth. That is the judgment on unbelievers. All the cities of this world will be in shambles. Eze. 38:20 shows that every wall will fall in the worldwide earthquake. There will be so few men left that a child could write the number.

Rev. 16:17-21 says, "the seventh angel poured out his vial into the air; and there came a great voice out of the temple of heaven, from the throne, saying, It is done. And there were voices, and thunders, and lightnings; and there was a great earthquake, such as was not since men were upon the earth, so mighty an earthquake, and so great. And the great city was divided into three parts, and the cities of the nations fell: and great Babylon came in remembrance before God, to give unto her the cup of the wine of the fierceness of his wrath. And every island fled away, and the mountains were not found. And there fell upon men a great hail out of heaven, every stone about the weight of a talent: and men blasphemed God because of the plague of the hail; for the plague thereof was exceeding great."

> > the 4. It was put into motion on this day that Passover preparation day, the day Jesus would be crucified would be a Wednesday, day 4, the cardinal midweek dividing point of the 7 day week.

Passover was on Friday in 30 AD, 40 years before the Temple was burned in 70 AD. Unleavened Bread was on Saturday in 30 AD. Firstfruits was on Sunday. Jesus was Crucified on the preparation of the Passover, i.e., Thursday.

"The Sanhedrin sat in the Liscat Haggazith, a hall of polished stone which dated from the time of King Jannaeus. The ordinary days for holding court were Mondays and THURSDAYS and the court never sat on the Sabbath or on a feast day. The law was strict in holding that there be no trials during Passover, during the night or on the eve of the Sabbath."(

The 3 days and 3 nights in the heart of the earth were Thursday (day), Friday (night then day), Saturday (night then day), and Sunday (night). God bless. Agape

Incoming e-mail, Re: Cherubim and The Flaming Sword

Hi Marilyn, I hope this email finds you and yours doing well. I was hoping you could answer a question for me about one of your posts. In particular your post on the "Cherubim and The Flaming Sword". Towards the bottom you wrote....

The flaming sword is likely to be a binary asteroid that breaks apart for "a great mountain burning with fire was cast into the sea" (Rev. 8:8). This rock hits the Mediterranean Sea. It turns Ashkelon and Gaza into future fields for flocks and spews those coals of fire that Ezekiel saw taken from between the cherubim's over the city of Jerusalem.

Both these rocks (and many smaller ones in scattered areas) hit Earth at noon on the Feast of Trumpets in 2007. Scripture says, BLOW ye the trumpet in Zion, and sound an alarm...the day of the LORD cometh...A day of darkness: (Joel 2:1,2).

I will cause the sun to go down at noon...I will turn your feasts into mourning (Amos 8:9,10).

You wrote hit Earth at noon on the Feast of Trumpets in 2007 in past tense, but this post is dated 8-3-97 ? .......... 1996, 1997 Marilyn J. Agee Updated 8-3-97.

I am wondering how back in 1997 you wrote something in the past tense for a future date, but 10 years before the date? Is this a typo? I do not even know how I caught this, but it made me curious enough to ask you about it.

Also I was wondering why we don't see as many new posts from you anymore? I was so used to checking every couple of days or so for new posts and just loved reading your Pro-Cons from other people. I am just hoping all is well with you. In Christ

My reply

I am not aware that what I said is past tense. I said, breaks apart, hits, turns, and spews." If I put it in the past tense, I would have said, broke apart, hit, turned, and spewed.

Prophetic past is often used in Scripture, because it is certain to come to pass. It is as sure as if it had already happened.

Scripture, Rev. 8:8, says, "a great mountain burning with fire was cast into the sea.".There, John is telling us afterward what he saw. In Rev. 8:2, he said, "And I saw the seven angels which stood before God; and to them were given seven trumpets".

As you know, I now expect those events on Tishri 1, 5776, Sept. 14, 2015. There were two times that the days of the shortened Tribulation, counted by Jewish inclusive reckoning, between Pentecost and Trumpets 6 years later, equalled 2300 days, as in Dan. 8:13,14. I picked the first time, and it looks like I should have picked the 2nd time. The 480th year in the Modern Parallels seemed to point to the Rapture in 1998, and the 483 years to the beginning of the Tribulation in 2001. It didn't.

At that time, I thought the Rapture would be on Pentecost. Now, I am convinced that it will be on the 7th day of Unleavened Bread. Why? Because the Israelites finished their 40 years, then were given a city, Jericho, on Nisan 21, the 7th day of Unleavened Bread. The 7th day, they circled Jericho 7 times. To me, that suggests Heaven, Saturn, which has 7 rings. Zech. 3:9,10 (LXX) says, "behold, I bring forth my servant The Branch (Jesus). For as for the stone which I have set before the face of Jesus, on the one stone are seven eyes" (orbs, circles, rings).

We are to be given a city too, New Jerusalem. The parallels were there, but until we finished our 40 years of probation, I didn't see it. I have wondered why, it wasn't for lack of looking, and suppose that is what the Lord wanted. It came to me when I was writing an email to Pastor Riley back in December.

Now, we have the phenomenon of the descent of the Holy Fire, accompanied by blue and white lightning, that has been going on for centuries at the tomb of Jesus under the Rotunda of the Church of the Holy Sepulcher in Jerusalem, due on April 26, 2008. That just happens to be Nisan 21, the 7th day of Unleavened Bread this year. On the same date, April 26, there will not only be a statewide day of prayer in Colorado, the ceremony will be broadcast from Washington, DC, and heard by groups gathered in stadiums in every state for this special day of prayer. My feeling is that it must be for a great witness to those left behind to see so many go up at once. My friend said the blue color of the lightning reminded her of the blue sapphire, the symbol of Jesus' throne in Heaven (Eze. 1:26-28). The sapphire is Jesus' birth stone, September, and it means Heaven. Not only that, the patriarch and others march around the tomb 3 times, (for the Trinity) before going inside the tomb to receive the Holy Fire. That reminded her that they marched around Jericho on the last day too. We should be ready, using I John 1:9, before April 26.

> > Also I was wondering why we don't see as many new posts from you anymore?

I am 79 years old and have a husband that is 84, doesn't see well and spends most of his days in bed. I have to do all the driving, all the shopping, all the paying of bills, etc. I do the best I can, and I have to spend some time with him. Therefore, I watch Lakers and Angels games, American Idol and Extreme Makeover. Hope you understand. Agape

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