Pro and Con 1409

posted 5-7-08

What is Alexander's Dark Band?

The double rainbow Ed and I were in the end of had this dark blue between the two colored rainbows. The sky above and below was lighter. I have wondered why? Today, I found the answer.

"Why is the sky brighter inside a rainbow?
"Notice the contrast between the sky inside the arc and outside it. When one studies the refraction of sunlight on a raindrop one finds that there are many rays emerging at angles smaller than the rainbow ray, but essentially no light from single internal reflections at angles greater than this ray. Thus there is a lot of light within the bow, and very little beyond it. Because this light is a mix of all the rainbow colors, it is white. In the case of the secondary rainbow, the rainbow ray is the smallest angle and there are many rays emerging at angles greater than this one. Therefore the two bows combine to define a dark region between them - called Alexander's Dark Band, in honor of Alexander of Aphrodisias who discussed it some 1800 years ago!" (http://eo.ucar.edu/rainbows/).

PENTECOST RAPTURE?

Jeremiah 5:24 says, “Neither say they in their heart, Let us now fear the Lord our God, that giveth rain, both the former (Tishri 1) and the latter (Nisan 1), in his (i.e., Jesus') season (i.e., 1st coming, Tishri 1; 2nd coming Nisan 1): HE RESERVETH UNTO US THE APPOINTED WEEKS OF THE HARVEST.”

The "appointed weeks of the harvest" probably points to a Pentecost Rapture. Seven weeks were to be counted, then Pentecost was the 50th day. There has been discussion over which day to start the 50-day countdown. De. 16:9 is plain. It says, "Seven weeks shalt thou number unto thee: begin to number the seven weeks from such time as thou beginnest to put the sickle to the corn." To me, that is clear. No one could start cutting wheat until the day after Firstfruits. In 30 AD, day number one was Monday, Nisan 17. Therefore, we can count those weeks from Sunday to Sunday. After the 7th Sunday, the 50th day, Pentecost, was Monday, May 29, in 30 AD. Pentecost will also be on May 29 in 2009. I think that will be when the Tribulation will begin. The Pre-Trib Rapture should be between now and Pentecost, 2009, hopefully on Sivan 6 or 7, our June 9 and 10, 2008.

Hosea 6:11 says, “Also, O Judah, He hath set a harvest for thee, when I returned the captivity of My people.” If we apply this to 1948, 1998 was the 50th year and 2008 is the 60th. Since the 1st Rapture was not in 1998, I hope it will be in 2008. Adding 7 years for the Tribulation, the 2nd Rapture would be in 2015. This agrees with the tetrad of blood Moons that is coming in 2014 and 2015.

I will have to check out for myself if there are any more tetrads for the rest of this century or not. If I remember right, JR Church said that there were no more in this century after 2014/2015. Yet, here is someone that says there are 8 tetrads between 2001 and 2100.

The Blood Red Moon

http://www.fivedoves.com/letters/may2008/TETRADS.pdf

...When four consecutive lunar ECLIPSES are all total ECLIPSES, the group is known as a tetrad. This phenomena, which is a rare occurrence...is usually accompanied by what the Bible calls the blood red moon...The following table shows the number of tetrads in the last four centuries, and the projected tetrads for the current 21st century:
1601 to 1700 - 0 TETRADS
1701 to 1800 – 0 TETRADS
1801 to 1900 – 0 TETRADS
1901 to 2000 – 5 TETRADS
2001 to 2100 – 8 TETRADS...

... the first prophetic tetrad since 1 AD falls in the period 1949 to 1950, the year after Israel’s birth in 1948. According to NASA’s ECLIPSE website, these total lunar ECLIPSES occurred on the following Gregorian dates. We have calculated the equivalent Hebrew dates and inserted them in brackets.
1949, April 13 [5709, Nisan 14]
1949, October 07 [5710, Tishrei 14]
1950, April 02 [5710, Nisan 15]
1950, September 26 [5711, Tishrei 15]...

But why 1949 and not 1948?...they mark the times of war in the land of Israel...

1967, April 24 [5727, Nisan 14]
1967, October 18 [5728, Tishrei 14]
1968, April 13 [5728, Nisan 15]
1968, October 06 [5729, Tishrei 14]...
What has 1967 in common with 1949? War!...

2014, April 15 [5774, Nisan 15]
2014, October 08 [5775, Tishrei 14]
2015, April 04 [5775, Nisan 15]
2015, September 28 [5776, Tishrei 15]...

“Immediately after the tribulation of those days the sun will be darkened, and the moon will not give its light” (Matthew 24:29)....

Incoming e-mail, Re: from pro and Con 1408

Have you tried looking at the ECLIPSE data for the times around the birth death and resurrection of Yashua?

My reply

Only in 30 AD and in a few surrounding years. I'll look up more to get a bigger picture. Thanks. Agape
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Calendar converters are not exact as far back as 24 to 36 AD, because they extrapolate the modern calendars backward. However, they are close enough to see the pattern of the ECLIPSES.

The "Gregorian" dates in the Fourmilab Calendar Converter can be off by 4 days. The Julian, which was actually used in those days, can still be off by 2 days. For instance, Jesus was crucified on Thursday, Nisan 13, 3790, the preparation day for the Passover, Nisan 14. Thursday was actually April 6, Julian. Yet, the chart says:

Hebrew: Nisan 13, 3790
Gregorian: Tuesday, April 2, 30 AD
Julian: Tuesday, April 4, 30 AD

If we advance the Julian to the correct week day, Thursday, it will give us the correct date, April 6. The week days have been kept correctly from Adam's day. To be as accurate as possible using this calendar converter, I will use the Julian dates in the ECLIPSE list below.

24 AD, Mar 14 Partial LUNAR ECLIPSE (Veadar 16, 3784)
***24 AD Mar 28 TOTAL SOLAR ECLIPSE (NISAN 1, 3784) 1ST DAY IN SACRED YEAR
24 AD, Sep 6 Partial LUNAR ECLIPSE (Elul 15, 3784)
***24 AD, Sep 21 Annular SOLAR ECLIPSE (TISHRI 1, 3785) 1ST DAY IN CIVIL YEAR
25 AD, Feb 16 Partial SOLAR ECLIPSE (Shevat 30, 3785)
***25 AD, Mar 3 Tm TOTAL LUNAR ECLIPSE (Adar 15, 3785)
***25 AD, Mar 18 Partial SOLAR ECLIPSE (NISAN 1, 3785) 1ST DAY IN SACRED YEAR
25 AD, Aug 12 Partial SOLAR ECLIPSE (Av 30, 3785)
25 AD, Aug 27 TOTAL- LUNAR ECLIPSE (Elul 15, 3785)
***25 AD, Sep 10 Partial SOLAR ECLIPSE (Elul 29, 3786) EVE OF TISHRI 1, 1ST DAY IN CIVIL YR
26 AD, Feb 6 Annular SOLAR ECLIPSE (Adar 1, 3786)
26 AD, Feb 20 Partial LUNAR ECLIPSE (Adar 15, 3786)
***26 Aug 1 TOTAL SOLAR ECLIPSE (Av 30, 3786)
26 AD, Aug 16 22:07 penumbral LUNAR ECLIPSE (Elul 15, 3786)
27 AD, Jan 11 penumbral LUNAR ECLIPSE (Shevat 17, 3787)
***27 AD, Jan 26 TOTAL SOLAR ECLIPSE (Adar I, 2, 3787)
27 AD, Feb 9 penumbral LUNAR ECLIPSE (Adar 1, 16, 3787)
27 AD, Jul 7 penumbral LUNAR ECLIPSE (Tamuz 16, 3787)
27 AD, Aug 6 penumbral LUNAR ECLIPSE (Av 17, 3787)
27 AD, Dec 31 Partial LUNAR ECLIPSE (Teveth 15, 3788)
28 AD, Jan 15 Annular SOLAR ECLIPSE (Shevat 1, 3788)
28 AD, Jun 25 Partial LUNAR ECLIPSE (Tamuz 15, 3788)

***28 AD, Jul 10 TOTAL SOLAR ECLIPSE (Av 1, 3788)
28 AD, Dec 5 Partial SOLAR ECLIPSE (Teveth 2, 3789)
***28 AD, Dec 20 TOTAL BLOOD MOON LUNAR ECLIPSE (Teveth 17, 3789)
29 AD, Jan 3 Partial SOLAR ECLIPSE (Shevat 2, 3789)
29 AD, Jun 1 Partial SOLAR ECLIPSE (Sivan 3, 3789)
***29 AD, Jun 14 TOTAL BLOOD MOON CENTRAL LUNAR ECLIPSE (Sivan 16, 3789)
***29 AD, Nov 24 TOTAL SOLAR ECLIPSE (Kislev 2, 3790)
29 AD, Dec 9 Partial LUNAR ECLIPSE (Kislev 17, 3790)

30 AD, Thursday, April 6, CRUCIFIXION

30 AD, May 6 Ne LUNAR ECLIPSE (Iyar 17, 3790)
30 AD, May 21 Annular SOLAR ECLIPSE (Sivan 3, 3790)
30 AD, Jun 4 Partial LUNAR ECLIPSE (Sivan 17, 3790)
***30 AD, Nov 14 TOTAL SOLAR ECLIPSE (Kislev 2, 3791)
30 AD, Nov 28 penumbral LUNAR ECLIPSE (Kislev 16, 3791)
31 AD, May 10 Annular SOLAR ECLIPSE (Iyar 21, 3790)
***31 AD, Nov 3 TOTAL SOLAR ECLIPSE (Kislev 1, 3792)

32 AD, Mar 29 pe SOLAR ECLIPSE (Veadar 29, 3792)
***32 AD, Apr 28 Partial SOLAR ECLIPSE (NISAN 30, 3792) LAST DAY IN NISAN, IST MO OF SACRED YR
***32 AD, Sep 23 pe SOLAR ECLIPSE (TISHRI 1, 3793) 1ST DAY IN CIVIL YR
32 AD, Oct 23 Partial SOLAR ECLIPSE (Cheshvan 1, 3793) 1ST DAY AFTER TISHRI
***33 AD, Mar 19 TOTAL SOLAR ECLIPSE (NISAN 1, 3793) 1ST DAY IN SACRED YR
***33 AD, Sep 12 Annular SOLAR ECLIPSE (TISHRI 1, 3794) 1ST DAY IN CIVIL YR
***34 AD, Mar 9 TOTAL SOLAR ECLIPSE (NISAN 3, 3794) 3RD DAY IN SACRED YR
***34 AD, Sep 1 Annular SOLAR ECLIPSE (TISHRI 2, 3795) 2ND DAY IN CIVIL YR
35 AD, Feb 26 Hybrid SOLAR ECLIPSE (Veadar 1, 3795)
35 AD, Aug 21 H2 SOLAR ECLIPSE (Av 30, 3795)
36 AD, Jan 17 Partial SOLAR ECLIPSE (Shevat 2, 3796)
36 AD, Feb 16 Partial SOLAR ECLIPSE (Adar 2, 3796)
36 AD, Jul 12 Partial SOLAR ECLIPSE (Av 2, 3796)
36 AD, Aug 10 Partial SOLAR ECLIPSE (Elul 1, 3796)
31 AD, Apr 25 Partial LUNAR ECLIPSE (Iyar 16, 3791)
31 AD, Oct 19 Partial LUNAR ECLIPSE (Cheshvan 16, 3792)
***32 AD, Apr 14 TOTAL- LUNAR ECLIPSE (NISAN 16, 3792) 16TH DAY OF SACRED YR
***32 AD, Oct 7 TOTAL CENTRAL LUNAR ECLIPSE (TISHRI 15, 3793) 15TH DAY OF CIVIL YR
***33 AD, Apr 3 Partial LUNAR ECLIPSE (NISAN 16, 3793) 16TH DAY OF SACRED YR
***33 AD, Sep 27 Partial LUNAR ECLIPSE (TISHRI 16, 3794) 16TH DAY OF CIVIL YR
34 AD, Feb 21 penumbral LUNAR ECLIPSE (Adar 16, 3794)
34 AD, Mar 23 penumbral LUNAR ECLIPSE (NISAN 17, 3794)
34 AD, Aug 18 penumbral LUNAR ECLIPSE (Elul 17, 3794)
34 AD, Sep 16 penumbral LUNAR ECLIPSE (Elul 17, 3794)
35 AD, Feb 11 Partial LUNAR ECLIPSE (Adar 1, 16, 3795)
35 AD, Aug 7 Partial LUNAR ECLIPSE (Av 16, 3795)
***36 AD, Jan 31 TOTAL CENTRAL LUNAR ECLIPSE (Shevat 16, 3796)
***36 AD, Jul 26 TOTALm LUNAR ECLIPSE (Av 16, 3796)

THE TOTAL ECLIPSE SIGNS

Just taking into consideration the TOTAL ECLIPSES in 28 to 31 AD, we have 4 total solar ECLIPSES and 2 Blood Moons. I take these to be signs. It is interesting that 2 Total Solar ECLIPSES on Kislev 2 flank the Crucifixion. If the Crucifixion was marked by these signs, we should expect the Second Advent to be marked by similar signs.

***28 AD, Jul 10 TOTAL SOLAR ECLIPSE (Av 1, 3788)
***28 AD, Dec 20 TOTAL BLOOD MOON LUNAR ECLIPSE (Teveth 17, 3789)
***29 AD, Jun 14 TOTAL BLOOD MOON CENTRAL LUNAR ECLIPSE (Sivan 16, 3789)
***29 AD, Nov 24 TOTAL SOLAR ECLIPSE (Kislev 2, 3790)

30 AD, Thursday, April 6, CRUCIFIXION (Nisan 13, 3790) preparation of the passover Nisan 14

***30 AD, Nov 14 TOTAL SOLAR ECLIPSE (Kislev 2, 3791)
***31 AD, Nov 3 TOTAL SOLAR ECLIPSE (Kislev 1, 3792)

Incoming e-mail, Re: Blood moon ECLIPSES: 2nd Coming in 2015?

(By Joe Kovacs)

And 7 years before this would be somewhere in 2008 (Feast of Trumpets in Sept ?)

Minister uses NASA forecasting to study signals of Jesus' return
WND: http://www.worldnetdaily.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=63076

My reply

> > Blood moon ECLIPSES: 2nd Coming in 2015?

I think there will be 7 Jewish months between the Day of God's Wrath and the Second Advent.

Eze 38:18-23 tells us of events on the Day of God's Wrath. It says, "And it shall come to pass at the same time when Gog shall come against the land of Israel, saith the Lord GOD, that MY FURY shall come up in my face. For in my jealousy and in the fire of MY WRATH have I spoken, Surely in that day there shall be a great shaking in the land of Israel (the asteroid of Rev. 8:8 impacts the Mediterranean Sea); So that the fishes of the sea, and the fowls of the heaven, and the beasts of the field, and all creeping things that creep upon the earth, and all the men that are upon the face of the earth (the worldwide earthquake), shall shake at my presence, and the mountains shall be thrown down, and the steep places shall fall, and EVERY WALL SHALL FALL to the ground. And I will call for a sword against him throughout all my mountains, saith the Lord GOD: every man's sword shall be against his brother. And I will plead against him with pestilence and with blood; and I will rain upon him, and upon his bands, and upon the many people that are with him, an overflowing rain (shower, i.e., a tsunami), and great hailstones, fire, and brimstone. Thus will I magnify myself, and sanctify myself; and I will be known in the eyes of many nations (they will see the Sign of the Son of Man in the sky), and they shall know that I am the LORD."

Also, of the time 7 months before the Second Advent, Joel 2:30,31 (KJV) says, "I will shew wonders (SIGNS in the LITV) in the heavens and in the earth, blood, and fire, and pillars of smoke. The sun shall be turned into darkness, and the moon into blood, before the great and the terrible day of the LORD come."

Eze. 39:12,13 says, "SEVEN MONTHS shall the house of Israel be burying of them, that they may cleanse the land. Yea, all the people of the land shall bury them; and it shall be to them a renown THE DAY THAT I SHALL BE GLORIFIED, saith the Lord GOD. " Jesus will be glorified the day of the Second Advent.

I think that great catastrophe will happen on Tishri 1, 5776, Monday, Sept. 14, 2015, and Jesus will return the following Nisan 1, 5776 (Saturday, April 9, 2016). Nisan 1 is the first day of the Hebrew Regnal and Sacred Year, the perfect time for Christ to return. He will probably be inaugurated on the same date all the other Hebrew kings officially took office....

Incoming e-mail, Re: End-time Chronology

I have really enjoyed your website for many years even though there have been times I have really not understood many things. These have probably been my most productive times since I really dug into God's Word on my own. What is so wonderful is what I perceive as your attitude over the years and I must compliment you, although I really believe it is a manifestation in you of the fruit of the Holy Spirit. With everything that has happened recently with the 2014-2015 lunar and solar ECLIPSES, I have been trying to get a handle on the chronology of events as presented in the Word between now (Spring 2008) and the end of the full tribulation (or beginning of the seventh millennium). I know that the ECLIPSES are a wonderful confirmation of what you had already projected (I don't want to say 'concluded') I'm sure there are many others who would also benefit from an updated chronology. I know you are busy but I would love to see this update. Your brother in Christ Jesus

My reply

Thanks for your kind words. The last thing below is my list of dates (see Home page). The ECLIPSES fit right in.

***2015 Apr 04 LUNAR ECLIPSE TOTAL, BLOOD MOON (NISAN 16, 5775) FEAST OF FIRSTFRUITS
2015 Sept 14 SOLAR ECLIPSE Partial: (TISHRI 1, 5776) FEAST OF TRUMPETS, FIRST DAY OF FIRST MONTH OF REGNAL AND SACRED CALENDAR, PROBABLY DAY OF THE PRE-WRATH Rapture, DAY OF THE LORD, DAY OF GOD'S WRATH
***2015 SEP 28 LUNAR ECLIPSE TOTAL, BLOOD MOON (TISHRI 16, 5776) 2ND DAY OF TABERNACLES
2016 Mar 09 SOLAR ECLIPSE TOTAL (Adar 1, 30, 5776) 1 DAY BEFORE NISAN 1, 1ST DAY OF SACRED CALENDAR
***2016 Mar 23 LUNAR ECLIPSE penumbral (Veadar 14, 5776) PURIM
7-MONTHS AFTER DAY OF GOD'S WRATH: 2016 Apr 9 (NISAN 1, 5776) FIRST DAY OF REGNAL AND SACRED CALENDAR, PROBABLY SECOND ADVENT OF CHRIST
Since the trumpet of God will sound at the Rapture, Pentecost might be the day, because the Israelites were to sound the trumpet on the beginning of the months and at all the feasts. I don't think a trumpet sounded when Jesus ascended.

Pentecost has a lot going for it. The grapes are still in bloom and setting grapes. pruning the non fruiting branches would be going on. See Song of Solomon 2:10-14 and Isa. 18:3-7. The first trumpet of the Bible sounded at Pentecost, and man did not blow it. Ex. 19:13 says, "There shall not an hand touch it (Mt. Sinai), but he shall surely be stoned, or shot through; whether it be beast or man, it shall not live: when the TRUMPET soundeth long, they shall COME UP to the mount." God sounded the trumpet, and Mt. Sinai represented Heaven. Can you think of any other time that God sounded a trumpet?

I Thess. 4:16,17 says, "For the Lord himself shall descend from heaven with a shout, with the voice of the archangel, and with the TRUMP OF GOD: and the dead in Christ shall rise first: Then we which are alive and remain shall be caught up together with them in the clouds, to meet the Lord in the air: and so shall we ever be with the Lord."...Agape

Incoming e-mail, Re: please read right away

I want you to know that I could not have written to my Family as I have done without your site. I have read it nearly daily since Christmas. My eyes have been opened so much. It is so neat to be in the Word, and the precious Holy Spirit speaks things to our spirit.

I am looking forward to meeting you and Ed soon!
I have simply forwarded the letter I sent to my family this morning.
Supporting Information on the Date

I have attached the original file, however, the site links are summarized below.
It does help a new reader to read these in order:

My first letter to My Family.
http://www.fivedoves.com/letters/Apr2008/bills423.htm
My second letter to My Family.
http://www.fivedoves.com/letters/Apr2008/bills425.htm

A letter to MY Family with detailed supporting information here: http://www.fivedoves.com/letters/Apr2008/bills425-1.htm

What others are saying:
http://www.fivedoves.com/letters/Apr2008/samsonm425-1.htm
http://www.fivedoves.com/letters/Apr2008/lindam425.htm
http://www.fivedoves.com/letters/Apr2008/fmriley425.htm
http://www.fivedoves.com/letters/Apr2008/judyb423.htm

My reply

Thanks much. Maranatha. Agape

Video on the Laminin that holds our bodies together

http://www.godtube.com/view_video.php?viewkey=152b5103d741aca61093 The diagram shows that it is in the form of the cross. The actual microscopic photo comfirms it, and this is what holds our bodies together.

Incoming e-mail, Re: Think God is angry?

Or is heaven perhaps not physically on Saturn, but in another dimension whose doorway just happens to be located near our universe where Saturn happens to be, or actually on the planet?

My reply

In 2 Cor 12:2-4, paul said, "I knew a man in Christ (paul himself) above fourteen years ago, (whether in the body, I cannot tell; or whether out of the body, I cannot tell: God knoweth;) such an one CAUGHT Up TO THE THIRD HEAVEN. And I knew such a man, (whether in the body, or out of the body, I cannot tell: God knoweth;) How that he was caught up into PARADISE, and heard unspeakable words, which it is not lawful for a man to utter."

Since Saturn is the third heaven (Mars, Jupiter, Saturn), I think Saturn is literally Heaven.

A sapphire stone was under the God of Israel's feet at Mt. Sinai (probably from the Sanskrit Sani, Saturn). Sapphire means dear to the planet Saturn from the Sanskrit Sani, Saturn, and priya, dear. As September's birthstone (i.e., Jesus' birthstone), the blue sapphire means Heaven. Ex 24:10 says, "And they saw the God of Israel: and there was UNDER HIS FEET as it were a paved work of a SAPPHIRE stone, and as it were the body of heaven (i.e., heavenly body) in his (or its) clearness."

Eze 1:26-28 says, "And above the firmament that was over their heads was the likeness of a throne, as the appearance of a SAPPHIRE stone: and upon the likeness of the throne was the likeness as the appearance of a man (i.e., Jesus, both God [Eze. 1:1] and man) above upon it. And I saw as the colour of amber (Saturn has amber on it), as the appearance of fire round about within it, from the appearance of his loins (from the equator) even upward, and from the appearance of his loins (from the equator) even downward, I saw as it were the appearance of fire, and it had BRIGHTNESS ROUND ABOUT (i.e., the 7 rings of Saturn). As the appearance of the bow (circular or semi-circular) that is in the cloud in the day of rain, so was the appearance of the brightness round about. This was the appearance of the likeness of the glory of the LORD."

Zech. 3:9,10 (LXX) says, "I bring forth my servant The Branch. For as for the stone which I have set before the face of Jesus, on the one stone are seven eyes" (orbs, circles, rings). Saturn has 7 rings.

How could Heaven be anywhere else? Agape

His reply

So maybe that storm is the lightning around his throne. And maybe He is angry, and maybe it finally IS time. Thanks!

Incoming e-mail, Re: The Clock is Still Ticking...for a few Hours

The last day of the Great Feast continues for a few hours this morning our time. It officially ends at sundown in Jerusalem. There is a blowing of the last trumpet that announces the close of the Seven Day Feast. It is the one that best fits the timing for the graves to open up. The trumpet sounds literally in Jerusalem just prior to the evening "twinkling of an eye".
The Blessed Day of Hope could be today.
This should be the most joyous day of our lives. It is however happening just as most expected. They expected it to be a total shock. They expected it to come without warning. They expected to not know the day or the hour.
I believe it will play out that way.
I believe that many will feel terror of being left behind.

That is a lie. Jesus said, "Lo I am with you always, even to the end of the age." Left behind theology does not leave one with much hope. But there is great hope. There is great harvests to be taken in. The real Resurrection Sunday was this past weekend. We start counting the omer on that day for fifty days to Pentecost Sunday. That was the birth of the Church, and it could very well be the resurrection of the Great Church Harvest.

My hope is that today end time events will begin to roll. I will again be in the local cemetery, as I was there previously this weekend at times the graves might open up. You see, it still is not abundantly clear just what is going to happen and when, but I have not given up hope. These very last hours are still very probable times.

Now I say this, brethren, that flesh and blood cannot inherit the kingdom of God; nor does the perishable inherit the imperishable.
51) Behold, I tell you a mystery; we will not all sleep, but we will all be changed,
52) in a moment, in the twinkling of an eye, at the last trumpet; for the trumpet will sound, and the dead will be raised imperishable, and we will be changed.
53) For this perishable must put on the imperishable, and this mortal must put on immortality.
54) But when this perishable will have put on the imperishable, and this mortal will have put on immortality, then will come about the saying that is written, "DEATH IS SWALLOWED Up in victory.
55) "O DEATH, WHERE IS YOUR VICTORY? O DEATH, WHERE IS YOUR STING?"
56) The sting of death is sin, and the power of sin is the law;
57) but thanks be to God, who gives us the victory through our Lord Jesus Christ.
58) Therefore, my beloved brethren, be steadfast, immovable, always abounding in the work of the Lord, knowing that your toil is not in vain in the Lord.

1 Corinthians 15:50-58

What happens if they open up? Well, we go with expectation and joy that our Groom has come. (There may be a short time period after the graves open up.) Finally our eyes would really be opened. I have earnestly prayed that if my family is not ready, then I want to stay back as well. I want to work in then next harvest. I do not want to imply I am more spiritual or such. I am just sharing to calm anxiety and fear. There should be none. We should be expecting this to happen. We should know that the hour is late. We know the world is quickly spiraling out of control. I am praying to be as obedient as possible. I still mess up. I want to do His will. He has shown me much. He will require much of me because of what I know. This is just the beginning. I love you all. Have a great day.

So, I stupidly insert here thoughts of an engineer. We ALWAYS consider all options in a design. We ALWAYS design for the unexpected.

What if nothing happens?

I am serious, I am so torn, because I really have not known what I know all that long. I really want to be out of debt at His coming. I want to be found laboring in the Harvest Fields. I want to get unencumbered with this hectic life style we all live. I so wish all of you could have experienced the wonderful missions convention our church held this past Friday. There is so much excitement for many to go back into the fields, to see many more souls won for Christ. (Sitting and feeling all of this, I had to acknowledge that I could not believe that the Lord would come back just yet.) Yet the Word declares that He has appointed times, they are written in the heavens.

If I know anything at all, I know His Word is true.

I also will stumble into heaven with the question why did not something happen in the year 2008. These things are NOT coincidence. Something will happen this year.

My reply

> > That was the birth of the Church, and it could very well be the resurrection of the Great Church Harvest.

I agree. I'm looking forward to Ascension Day or Pentecost. Either fits Song of Solomon 2:10-14.

> > I have earnestly prayed that if my family is not ready, then I want to stay back as well.

But Heb 12:22-25 says, "But ye are come unto mount Sion, and unto the city of the living God, the heavenly Jerusalem, and to an innumerable company of angels, To the general assembly and church of the firstborn, which are written in heaven, and to God the Judge of all, and to the spirits of just men made perfect, And to Jesus the mediator of the new covenant, and to the blood of sprinkling, that speaketh better things than that of Abel. SEE THAT YE REFUSE NOT HIM THAT SPEAKETH. For if they escaped not who refused him that spake on earth, much more shall not we escape, if we turn away from him that speaketh from heaven"

> > 51) Behold, I tell you a mystery; we will not all sleep, but we will all be changed, 52) in a moment, in the twinkling of an eye, at the last trumpet; for the trumpet will sound, and the dead will be raised imperishable, and we will be changed. 53) For this perishable must put on the imperishable, and this mortal must put on immortality.

I think this applies to the second Rapture, the pre-Wrath Rapture on the Day of God's Wrath. As Rev. 6 ends, the day of God's Wrath has come. Then in Rev. 7, we see the Tribulation saints in Heaven. After that, in Rev. 8, there is silence in Heaven and on Earth while the judge is seated at the Judgment Seat of Christ. After that, the 7 trumpets are given the 7 angels.

> > I also will stumble into heaven with the question why did not something happen in the year 2008. These things are NOT coincidence. Something will happen this year.

I hope so. No matter what, we can't let up watching and holding fast. Watching was a command. In Mark 13:37, Jesus said, "And what I say unto you I say unto all, Watch."

Rev 3:3 says, "Remember therefore how thou hast received and heard, and hold fast, and repent. If therefore thou shalt not watch, I will come on thee as a thief, and thou shalt not know what hour I will come upon thee." Agape

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