Pro and Con 1417

Posted 6-8-08

Incoming e-mail, Re: Coincidence?

Looking at Genesis 5 where it list the descendants of Adam, I was looking at the year that the descendants were born on and the year that they died in. I happened to come across one year that seamed relevant - but maybe I'm figuring it out wrong or it's simply a coincidence. Please look at the following:

Name Year Born Year Died
Adam 930 Gen 5:5 (Adam lived 930 years)
Seth 130 1042 Gen 5:3 (When Adam was 130 yrs old Seth was born)
Enosh 235 1140 Gen 5:6 (When Seth was 105 Enosh was born 130 + 105 = 235)
Kenan 325 1235 Gen 5:9 (When Enosh was 90 Kenan was born 235 + 90 = 325)
Mahalalel 395 1290 Gen 5:12 (When Kenan was 70 Mahalael was born 325 + 70 = 395)
Jared 460 1422 Gen 5:15 (When Mahalalel was 65 Jared was born 395 + 65 = 460)
Enoch 622 Yr Taken 987 Gen 5:18 (When Jared was 162 Enoch was born 460 + 162 = 622)
Methuselah 687 1656 Gen 5:21 (When Enoch was 65 Methuselah was born 622 + 65 = 687)
Lamech 874 1651 Gen 5:25 (When Methuselah was 187 Lamech was born 687 + 187 = 874)
Noah 1056 2006 Gen 5:28 (When Lamech was 182 Noah was born 874 + 182 = 1056)

Noah was 600 years old when the flood had covered the earth (Gen 7:6) year 1656. Noah was 601 years old when the flood had receded (Gen 8:13) year 1657. This information is needed to help establish the birth year of Shem. In Gen 11:10 it says "Two years after the great flood, when Shem was 100 years old, he became the father of Arphaxad". 2 years after the great flood would make it year 1659 when Shem had turned 100 years old making his year born 1559.

Shem 1559 2159 Gen 11:10
Arphaxad 1659 2097 Gen 11:10 (When Shem was 100 Arphaxad was born 1559 + 100 = 1659)
Shelah 1694 2127 Gen 11:12 (When Arphaxad was 35 Shelah was born 1659 + 35 = 1694)
Eber 1724 2188 Gen 11:14 (When Shelah was 30 Eber was born 1694 + 30 = 1724)
Peleg 1758 1997 Gen 11:16 (When Eber was 34 Peleg was born 1724 + 34 = 1758)
Reu 1788 2027 Gen 11:18 (When Peleg was 30 Reu was born 1758 + 30 = 1788)
Serug 1820 2050 Gen 11:20 (When Reu was 32 Serug was born 1788 + 32 = 1820)
Nahor 1850 1998 Gen 11:22 (When Serug was 30 Nahor was born 1820 + 30 = 1850)
Terah 1879 2084 Gen 11:24 (When Nahor was 29 Terah was born 1850 + 29 = 1879)
Abram 1949 2124 Gen 11:26 (When Terah was 70 Abram was born 1879 + 70 = 1949)

Now a couple of things occur to me:
Does the year of the birth of Abraham here also correlate with the modern day rebirth of the nation of Israel?? I know Israel became a nation in May 1948 - but the blood red moon signs did not occur until 1949/50.
Do you think I figured this out right? I wasn't sure if if there would be a year "zero" that would make my numbers one less?
Am I seeing this wrong all together and maybe the birth of Abraham 1949 years from the "beginning" is just coincidental being near the birth of modern day Israel?
I just thought that it was neat that the father of the nation of Israel (Abraham) and the one whom God made the covenant with was born around the same time of our modern day Israel.

It's also interesting to see that after this genealogy is given in Gen 11 that immediately in Gen 12:1 is says: 1 The Lord had said to Abram, “Leave your native country, your relatives, and your father’s family, and go to the land that I will show you. 2 I will make you into a great nation. I will bless you and make you famous, and you will be a blessing to others. 3 I will bless those who bless you and curse those who treat you with contempt. All the families on earth will be blessed through you.”

I enjoy your website and the encouragement to keep watchful - Thank you for your time. Sincerely

My reply

Thanks for your kind words and for bringing this to my attention. The picture is even better than you thought. Abram was born into this world in 2008 AH. We are now in 2008 AD. How good is that? We will be born into a new world at the Pre-Trib Rapture too.

1656 is right for the Flood.
Gen 9:28 says, "Noah lived after the flood three hundred and fifty years."

Noah died in 2006 AH and Abram was born in 2008 AH (more about that below). The Rapture is to be as in the days of Noah too. One might say that we are overdue. 1967 (Six-Day War) + 40 = 2007 AD. Our 40 years of trial and testing are also over. We are overdue on that count too. Pentecost is coming up. That is the great divide. Before it is the barley harvest that probably applies to us. After it is the wheat harvest, the Tribulation saints. They will be caught up on the Feast of Trumpets that ends the shortened Tribulation. The main wheat harvest takes place during the summer. That starts June 21. In John 4:34,35, "Jesus saith unto them, My meat is to do the will of him that sent me, and to FINISH HIS WORK. Say not ye, There are yet four months, and then cometh harvest? behold, I say unto you, Lift up your eyes, and look on the fields; for they are white already to harvest." Barley is the grain that shows white at harvest time. Wheat is golden. I have this picture of barley being harvested on my Web site somewhere on the Pro and Cons.

We are in the Jewish month of Sivan. Four more months from Sivan 1 would be Tishri 1. The intervening months are Sivan, Tamuz, Av and Elul. Sivan 7 is next Tuesday. That is 50 days from Firstfruits on Nisan 16.

Ruth went to Israel at the time of barley harvest. Boaz had been winnowing barley the midnight when she lay at his feet. The next morning, he gave her 6 measures of barley. That could suggest Sivan 6. The next day, he took Ruth into his home to be his wife. That could suggest Sivan 7. Maybe we will go to our kinsman redeemer's home on Sivan 7. I hope so.

http://prophecycorner.com/agee/chron.html
2008 AH = 2035 BC Abram born when Terah was 130 (Gen 11:26-32; Gen 12:4; Acts 7:4).

DOUBLE CHECK: Terah was born in 1878 AH and lived to be 205. At his death, Abram left Haran, so he died in 2083 AH when Abram was 75. AH 2083 - 75 = 2008 AH, when Abram was born when Terah was 130. AH 2008 - 130 = 1878 AH, when Terah was born. Dr. Arnold D. Ehlert, head of BIOLA library when I began my studies in earnest, in his "Syllabus of Bible Chronology," said, "Up to this point there is perfect agreement in arriving at the date 2008 A.H. as the date of Abram's birth by Anstey, Panin and Ussher."

2083 AH = 1960 BC Call of Abram, left Haran when 75 (Gen 12:4), Terah died at 205 (Gen 11:32) This was when Abram was promised the land of Canaan/Israel. Gen. 35:12: "And the land which I gave Abraham and Isaac, to thee (Jacob/Israel) I will give it, and to thy seed after thee will I give the land."

DOUBLE CHECK: Terah died when 205. (1878 AH + 205 = 2083 AH) Agape

My reply to a post on Five Doves site, Re: Day of the Lord, one day like no other, ever

Post by: Patty Hayes (5 June 2008), Re: "Before that Awesome Day of the Lord"
> > My dear friend who's husband taught the Greek at Biola University taught one day in Sunday School that the Day of the Lord in the circle of theologians seem to take on 3 seperate understanding. One understanding of the Day of the Lord is: Beginning at Pentecost and ending at Christ's return and Judgement.
> > The second understanding is: Day fo the Lord beginning at the 7 year Tribulation.
> > The third understanding is: beginning at the second half of Tribulation.
> > In my NASB translation uses the word awesome day of the Lord which is none like it.
> > The one thing I hadn't paid as much attention to is the word BEFORE the awesome day...

I think the Day of the Lord is one literal day, the Day of God's Wrath, the Day of Jacob's Trouble. Elijah must come first. Then the Day of the Lord will come as a destruction from the Almighty. Sinners will be destroyed out of it. To me, that is the end of the shortened Tribulation.


BEFORE THE DAY OF THE LORD


Mal 4:5 (KJV): "Behold, I will send you ELIJAH the prophet BEFORE the coming of the great and dreadful DAY OF THE LORD". Elijah comes at the beginning of the Tribulation. He will prophesy during the first 1260 days (Rev. 11).

Eze 30:3: "the DAY OF THE LORD is near, A CLOUDY DAY; IT SHALL BE THE TIME OF THE HEATHEN."

Joe 2:31: "The sun shall be turned into DARKNESS, and the moon into blood, BEFORE the great and the terrible DAY OF THE LORD come."

Act 2:20: "The sun shall be turned into DARKNESS, and the moon into blood, BEFORE that great and notable DAY OF THE LORD come"


THE DAY OF THE LORD, DAY OF GOD'S WRATH, FEAST OF TRUMPETS


Joe 2:1: "Blow ye the TRUMPET in Zion (i.e., it is on the Feast of Trumpets), and sound an alarm in my holy mountain: let all the inhabitants of the land tremble: for the DAY OF THE LORD cometh, for it is nigh at hand"

2Pe 3:10: "But the DAY OF THE LORD will come as a thief in the night; in the which THE HEAVENS SHALL PASS AWAY WITH A GREAT NOISE, AND THE ELEMENTS SHALL MELT WITH FERVENT HEAT, THE EARTH ALSO AND THE WORKS THAT ARE THEREIN SHALL BE BURNED UP."

Amos 5:18: "Woe unto you that desire the DAY OF THE LORD! to what end is it for you? the DAY OF THE LORD is DARKNESS, and not light."

Amos 5:20: "Shall not the DAY OF THE LORD be DARKNESS, and not light? even very dark, and no brightness in it?"

Isa 13:6: "Howl ye; for the DAY OF THE LORD is at hand; IT SHALL COME AS A DESTRUCTION from the Almighty."

Joe 1:15: "Alas for the day! for the DAY OF THE LORD is at hand, and as a DESTRUCTION from the Almighty shall it come." Isa 13:9: "Behold, the DAY OF THE LORD cometh, cruel both WITH WRATH AND FIERCE ANGER, to lay the land desolate: and he shall DESTROY THE SINNERS thereof out of it."

Zep 1:18: "Neither their silver nor their gold shall be able to deliver them in the DAY OF THE LORD'S WRATH; but the whole land shall be devoured by the fire of his jealousy: for he shall make even a speedy riddance of all them that dwell in the land."

Isa 34:8: "For it is the DAY OF THE LORD'S VENGEANCE, and the year of recompences (probably 5776; 2015) for the controversy of Zion."

Jer 46:10: "For this is the DAY OF THE LORD GOD OF HOSTS, A DAY OF VENGEANCE, that he may avenge him of his adversaries: and the sword (i.e., the Sword of the Lord) shall devour, and it shall be satiate and made drunk with their blood: for the Lord GOD of hosts hath a sacrifice in the north country by the river Euphrates (i.e., at Babylon)."

Lam 2:22: "Thou hast called as in a solemn day my terrors round about, so that in the DAY OF THE LORD'S ANGER none escaped nor remained: those that I have swaddled and brought up hath mine enemy consumed."

Zep 2:2: "Before the decree bring forth, before the day pass as the chaff, before the fierce ANGER of the LORD come upon you, before the DAY OF THE LORD'S ANGER come upon you."

Zep 2:3: "Seek ye the LORD, all ye meek of the earth, which have wrought his judgment; seek righteousness, seek meekness: IT MAY BE YE SHALL BE HID (i.e., raptured) IN THE DAY OF THE LORD'S ANGER."

Isa 2:12: "For the DAY OF THE LORD OF HOSTS (i.e., Christ; Isa. 44:6) shall be upon every one that is proud and lofty, and upon every one that is lifted up; and he shall be brought low"

Eze 13:5: "Ye have not gone up into the gaps, neither made up the hedge for the house of Israel to stand in THE BATTLE (i.e., Gog's army is attacking Israel) in the DAY OF THE LORD."

Joe 2:11: "And the LORD shall utter his voice before his army: for his camp is very great: for he is strong that executeth his word: for the DAY OF THE LORD is great and VERY TERRIBLE; and who can abide it?"

Joe 3:14: "Multitudes, multitudes in the valley of decision: for the DAY OF THE LORD is near in the valley of decision."

Obadiah 1:15: "For the DAY OF THE LORD is near UPON ALL THE HEATHEN: as thou hast done, it shall be done unto thee: THY REWARD SHALL RETURN UPON THINE OWN HEAD."

Zep 1:7: "Hold thy peace at the presence of the Lord GOD: for the DAY OF THE LORD is at hand: for the LORD hath prepared a sacrifice, he hath bid his guests."

Zep 1:8: "And it shall come to pass in the DAY OF THE LORD'S SACRIFICE, that I will punish the princes, and the king's children, and all such as are clothed with strange apparel."

Zep 1:14: "The great DAY OF THE LORD is near, it is near, and hasteth greatly, even the voice of the DAY OF THE LORD: the mighty man shall cry there bitterly."

Zec 14:1: "Behold, the DAY OF THE LORD cometh, and thy spoil shall be divided in the midst of thee."

1Th 5:2: "For yourselves know perfectly that the DAY OF THE LORD so cometh as a thief in the night."

2Th 2:2: (ISV) "not to be so quickly upset or alarmed when someone claims that we said either by some spirit, conversation, or letter that the DAY OF THE LORD has already come."


THE DAY OF THE LORD IS ONE DAY LIKE NO OTHER, IT IS THE TIME OF JACOB'S TROUBLE


Dan 12:1: "And at that time (i.e., the Day of the Lord, when the False Prophet is deposed; Dan. 11:45) shall Michael stand up, the great prince which standeth for the children of thy people (Israelites): and there shall be A TIME OF TROUBLE (i.e., the time of Jacob's trouble), SUCH AS NEVER WAS SINCE THERE WAS A NATION EVEN TO THAT SAME TIME: and at that time thy people (the 144,000 Israelites) shall be delivered (i.e., raptured in the Pre-Wrath Rapture), every one that shall be found written in the book."

Jer 30:6-10: "wherefore do I see every man with his hands on his loins, as a woman in travail, and all faces are turned into paleness? Alas! for THAT DAY (i.e., the Day of the Lord) is great, so that NONE IS LIKE IT: it is even THE TIME OF JACOB'S TROUBLE; but he shall be saved out of it. For it shall come to pass in that day, saith the LORD of hosts, that I will break his yoke from off thy neck, and will burst thy bonds, and strangers shall no more serve themselves of him: But they shall serve the LORD their God, and David their king, whom I will raise up unto them (i.e., the Second Advent is 7 months future; Eze 39:12,13). Therefore fear thou not, O my servant Jacob, saith the LORD; neither be dismayed, O Israel: for, lo, I WILL SAVE THEE FROM AFAR (i.e., the asteroids of Rev. 8:8-10 will impact Earth), and thy seed from the land of their captivity; and Jacob shall return, and shall be in rest, and be quiet, and none shall make him afraid."


THE DAY OF CHRIST, THE DAY OF THE LORD JESUS, THE DAY OF THE PRE-TRIB RAPTURE


1Co 5:5 (KJV): "To deliver such an one unto Satan for the destruction of the flesh, that the spirit may be saved in the DAY OF THE LORD JESUS."

2Co 1:14: "As also ye have acknowledged us in part, that we are your rejoicing, even as ye also are ours in the DAY OF THE LORD JESUS."

Php 1:10: "That ye may approve things that are excellent; that ye may be sincere and without offence till the DAY OF CHRIST"

Php 2:16: "Holding forth the word of life; that I may rejoice in the DAY OF CHRIST, that I have not run in vain, neither laboured in vain."


DAY OF THE PRE-WRATH RAPTURE


Rev 6:17: "For the great day of his wrath is come; and who shall be able to stand?

Rev. 7:14: "These are they which came out of great tribulation, and have washed their robes, and made them white in the blood of the Lamb."


CHRIST'S CORONATION DAY IN HEAVEN, A DAY LIKE NO OTHER, EVER


Rev 11:15-19: "And the seventh angel sounded; and there were great voices in heaven, saying, The kingdoms of this world are become the kingdoms of our Lord, and of his Christ; and HE SHALL REIGN for ever and ever. And the four and twenty elders (previously caught up in the Pre-Trib Rapture), which sat before God on their seats, fell upon their faces, and worshipped God, Saying, We give thee thanks, O Lord God Almighty, which art (on Coronation Day), and wast (at the First Advent), and art to come (at the Second Advent, 7 months future); because thou hast taken to thee thy great power, and HAST REIGNED. And the nations were angry, and THY WRATH IS COME, and the time of the dead, that they should be JUDGED (i.e., at the Judgment Seat of Christ), and that thou shouldest GIVE REWARD UNTO THY SERVANTS the prophets, AND TO THE SAINTS, and them that fear thy name, small and great; AND SHOULDEST DESTROY THEM WHICH DESTROY THE EARTH. And the temple of God was opened in heaven, and there was seen in his temple the ark of his testament (i.e., with its 2 stones): and there were lightnings, and voices, and thunderings, and an EARTHQUAKE (worldwide, Eze 38:20), and great hail (i.e., when the 2 asteroids of Rev. 8:8-10 hit Earth)."


SECOND ADVENT SEVEN MONTHS AFTER THE DAY OF THE LORD


Eze. 39:12,13: "SEVEN MONTHS shall the house of Israel be burying of them, that they may cleanse the land. Yea, all the people of the land shall bury them; and it shall be to them a renown the day that I shall be glorified (i.e., at the Second Advent), saith the Lord GOD." Agape

Incoming e-mail, Re: "IS JESUS NOT SAYING THAT THE RAPTURE IS IN THE MONTH OF SIVAN (JUNE) ?"

John 4:36
"Do you not say, FOUR MONTHS MORE AND THEN THE HARVEST? I tell you, open your eyes and look at the fields! THEY ARE RIPE FOR HARVEST."

The FOURTH MONTH AFTER Sivan is the Fall month of Tisheri in which the 'Feast of Trumpets', the 'Feast of Atonement', and the 'Feast of Tabernacles' occur. Look up, our redemption is neigh because 'the fields are ripe for harvest' NOW IN THE MONTH OF SIVAN WHICH IS JUNE.

Come Lord Jesus!

My reply to a post on the Five Doves site

Re: Rene (31 May 2008)
"The THREE GREAT THRONES OF GOD!"
http://www.fivedoves.com/letters/may2008/rene531-5.htm

> > ...the Bible appears to reveal THREE THRONES that manifest the awesome power and majesty of God. It is also true that these THREE thrones correspond to the SECOND row of stones on the breastplate of the High Priest.... These three stones are the Emerald, Sapphire and Diamond....

> > Other stones are mentioned in the appearances of God such as the sardine, beryl and amber... and of course, we know that the 12 foundation walls of the New Jerusalem contain these precious stones - and several others --- corresponding to the 12 Sons of Jacob and the 12 Apostles of the Lamb! Thanks. You inspired me to look up which stones correspond to the 12 patriarchs and the 12 apostles.

Of course, the most important to understand is the sapphire throne in Ezekiel 1 and 10. Next, we need to know the meaning of the stones mentioned in Rev. 4, for it is Christ, the Creator, on the throne. Verse 11 says, "Thou art worthy, O Lord, to receive glory and honour and power: for thou hast created all things, and for thy pleasure they are and were created." John 1:3 says of Christ, "All things were made by him; and without him was not any thing made that was made."

Christ on the throne is why the symbolic lamb is used in Rev. 5:6,7. It says, "I beheld, and, lo, in the midst of the throne and of the four beasts, and in the midst of the elders, stood a Lamb as it had been slain, having seven horns and seven eyes, which are the seven Spirits of God sent forth into all the earth. And he came and took the book out of the right hand of him that sat upon the throne." Last, it is nice to know which stones stand for the 24 elders of Israel, which are the 12 patriarchs and the 12 apostles."

At Mt. Sinai (probably derived from the Sanskrit Sani, Saturn), Ex 24:10 says, "they saw the God of Israel (Jesus, both YHWH king of Israel and YHWH of hosts, the Redeemer; Isa. 44:6): and there was under his feet as it were a paved work of a SAPPHIRE stone, and as it were (symbolic language) the body of heaven (heavenly body, i.e., Saturn) in his (or its) clearness." Josephus made it clear that the lampstand in the Temple stood for 7 heavenly bodies, the Sun (the western light that was to always be kept lit), Mercury, Venus, Earth, Mars, Jupiter and Saturn (Ant. III. VII. 7). The eastern light represented Heaven.

From Earth, the middle lamp, Saturn is the third heaven, Mars, Jupiter, Saturn. In II Cor. 12:2, Paul was caught up to the third heaven, to Paradise. It is nice to find out that the sapphire stands for both Paul and Heaven.

Eze 1:1 says, "the heavens were opened, and I saw visions of GOD." Then Eze. 1:26-28 says, "And above the firmament (expanse of space) that was over their heads (i.e., farther out in space than the concentric orbits of the 4 terrestrial planets) was the likeness (symbolic language) of a throne, as the appearance of a SAPPHIRE stone: and upon the likeness of the throne was the likeness as the appearance of a MAN (THE ONLY GOD/MAN, JESUS CHRIST) above upon it. And I saw as the colour of amber (i.e., Saturn has amber on it), as the appearance of fire round about within it, from the appearance of his loins (from the equator) even upward, and from the appearance of his loins (from the equator) even downward, I saw as it were the appearance of fire, and it (Saturn) had BRIGHTNESS ROUND ABOUT (i.e., Saturn's 7 rings). As the appearance of the bow (the rainbow) that is in the cloud in the day of rain, so was the appearance of the brightness round about. This was the appearance of the likeness of the glory of the LORD." Heaven has a halo.

Zech. 3:9,10 says, "behold, I bring forth my servant The Branch. For as for the stone which I have set before the faced of Jesus, on the one stone are seven eyes" (orbs, rings). Saturn has 7 rings.

Sapphire means dear to the planet Saturn, from the Sanskrit Sani, Saturn, and priya, dear. The sapphire is Jesus' September birthstone (born on the Feast of Trumpets), and means heaven. Saturn is the planet that is associated with the sapphire birthstone too.

I understand the sapphire in Eze. 28:12-14 too. It says, "Son of man, take up a lamentation upon the king of Tyrus (rock, i.e., Satan's planet), and say unto him, Thus saith the Lord GOD; Thou sealest up the sum, full of wisdom, and perfect in beauty. Thou hast been in Eden the garden of God; every precious stone was thy covering (i.e., surroundings), the SARDIUS (1. Mercury), TOPAZ (2. Venus), and the DIAMOND (3. Earth), the BERYL (4. Mars), the ONYX (5. Satan's original planet Rahab, now our Asteroid Belt), and the JASPER (6. Jupiter), the SAPPHIRE (7. SATURN), the EMERALD (8. Uranus), and the CARBUNCLE (9. Neptune), and GOLD (10. Pluto): the workmanship of thy tabrets and of thy pipes was prepared in thee in the day that thou wast created. Thou art the anointed cherub (Satan) that covereth; and I have set thee so: thou wast upon the holy mountain of God (Saturn); thou hast walked up and down in the midst (Rahab was No. 5, in the middle) of the (10 original) stones of fire" (planets).

Isaiah 54:11 says, "O thou afflicted, tossed with tempest, and not confirmed, behold, I will lay thy stones with fair colors, and lay thy foundations with sapphires. And I will make thy windows of agates, and thy gates of carbuncles, and all thy borders of pleasant stones."

Song 5:14 symbolically says of Christ, "His hands are as gold rings set with the beryl: his belly is as bright ivory overlaid with sapphires."

Rev 21:16-20 says, "the city lieth foursquare, and the length is as large as the breadth (IT IS A SPHERE, Earth has 4 corners too. Isa 11:12 says, "gather together the dispersed of Judah from the four corners of the earth"): and he measured the city with the reed, twelve thousand furlongs. The length and the breadth and the height of it are equal. And he measured the wall thereof, an hundred and forty and four cubits, according to the measure of a man, that is, of the angel. And the building of the wall of it was of JASPER: and the city was pure GOLD, like unto clear glass. And the foundations of the wall of the city were garnished with all manner of precious stones. The first foundation was JASPER; the second, SAPPHIRE; the third, a CHALCEDONY; the fourth, an EMERALD; The fifth, SARDONYX; the sixth, SARDIUS; the seventh, CHRYSOLITE; the eighth, BERYL; the ninth, a TOPAZ; the tenth, a CHRYSOPRASUS; the eleventh, a JACINTH; the twelfth, an AMETHYST." Only those that are in bold type are in the first list.

Ex 28:17-21 says of the breastplate, "set in it settings of stones, even four rows of stones: the first row shall be a SARDIUS, a TOPAZ, and a CARBUNCLE: this shall be the first row. And the second row shall be an EMERALD, a SAPPHIRE (No. 5), and a DIAMOND. And the third row a ligure, an agate, and an amethyst. And the fourth row a BERYL, and an ONYX, and a JASPER: they shall be set in GOLD in their inclosings. And the stones shall be with the names of the children of Israel, twelve, according to their names, like the engravings of a signet; every one with his name shall they be according to the twelve tribes."

I understand that identifying the exact stones is not always easy. Some stone names have changed over time.

Birthstones
http://sanguine-92.blogspot.com/2007/06/gemstones-origin-and-list.html

January- Garnet
February-Amethyst
March-Aquamarine or Bloodstone
April-Diamond
May-Emerald
June-Pearl, Alexandrite or Moonstone
July-Ruby
August-Peridot or Sardonyx
September-Sapphire (Jesus was born in September)
October-Opal or Tourmaline
November-Topaz
December-Turquoise or Zircon

I found the following interesting information at:
http://www.johnpratt.com/items/docs/lds/meridian/2005/12stones.html
but the Sapphire is not listed for September.

Agate, Benjamin, b. 25 May, (Gemini)
Agate also, Issachar b. 29 May (Cancer)
Emerald, Judah, b. 19 June, (Leo)
Carnelian, Naphtali, b. 17 Aug (Virgo)
Peridot, Asher, b. 23 Sept (Libra)
Aquamarine, Dan, b. 9 Oct (Scorpio)
Topaz, Gad, b. 2 Nov (Sagittarius)
Ruby, Simeon, b. 16 Dec (Capricorn)
Sapphire, Reuben, b. 23 Dec (Aquarius)
Amethyst, Levi, b. 5 Feb (Pisces)
Peridot, Zebulon, 4 Mar (Aries)
Diamond, Joseph, 6 Apr (Taurus)

It is interesting that Joseph was born on April 6, the date of the Crucufixion, and Issachar was born on May 29, the date of Pentecost in 30 AD.

Rev 4:1-3 says, "After this I looked, and, behold, a door was opened in heaven: and the first voice which I heard was as it were of a trumpet talking with me; which said, Come up hither, and I will shew thee things which must be hereafter. And immediately I was (lit., became) in the spirit: and, behold, a throne was set in heaven, and one sat on the throne. And he that sat was to look upon like a jasper and a sardine stone (i.e., the first and last stones in the breastplate, because Jesus is the first and the last, LORD of the Old Testament and Lord of the New Testament; Isa. 44:6): and there was a rainbow round about the throne, in sight like unto an emerald (Judah's stone in the Breastplate)". The emerald tells us that Jesus is from the tribe of Judah.

In ancient Judea, the High Priest wore a breastplate set with stones representing the 12 tribes of Israel. Later, this same idea was used to symbolize the 12 Apostles of Christ.

Rev 21:18-20 lists the gemstones associated with the apostles. The names of the corresponding apostles is from "Gemstones of the Bible," by Michael Howard (http://rockhoundingar.com/miscellaneous/bible.html). Rev. 21:18-20 says, "the building of the wall of it was of jasper: and the city was pure gold, like unto clear glass. And the foundations of the wall of the city were garnished with all manner of precious stones. The first foundation was jasper (Peter); the second, sapphire (Paul); the third, a chalcedony (Andrew); the fourth, an emerald (John); The fifth, sardonyx (James); the sixth, sardius (Philip); the seventh, chrysolite (Bartholomew); the eighth, beryl (Thomas); the ninth, a topaz (Matthew); the tenth, a chrysoprasus (Thaddaeus); the eleventh, a jacinth (Simon); the twelfth, an amethyst" (Matthew).

It is fitting that the sapphire represents Paul. In 2 Cor 12:2-4, Paul tells us that he was caught up to Heaven. That's where the sapphire throne of Jesus is located. Not wanting to boast, he said, " I knew a man in Christ above fourteen years ago, (whether in the body, I cannot tell; or whether out of the body, I cannot tell: God knoweth;) such an one caught up to the THIRD HEAVEN (Mars, Jupiter, Saturn). And I knew such a man, (whether in the body, or out of the body, I cannot tell: God knoweth;) How that he was caught up into paradise, and heard unspeakable words, which it is not lawful for a man to utter". Agape

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