Pro and Con 1429

Posted 8-22-08

An Enceladus-Saturn Electrical Connection?

Michael Gmirkin, 08/11/08

The Cassini team is preparing to probe Enceladus’ south pole so they can sample its plumes and take high resolution photos of the “tiger stripe” fractures. Will they pin down the sources of the plumes and the polar hot spots, or will they find evidence supporting the Electric Universe model, or both?

Tishri 1, 5769, the Feast of Trumpets and probably the Pre-Trib Rapture, may be Oct. 1 in 2008

The new Moon may not be sighted in Israel on Sept. 30, the Jewish calendar date of Tishri 1. Why? the Sun will set 20 minutes after the moon rises. The thin white line of the emerging Moon will be hard to see within the necessary 40 minutes after sunset. On Oct. 1st, the crescent Moon should be visible. The Moon will not be under the feet of Virgo until Oct 1.

Rev 12:1-5 says, "there appeared a great wonder (semeion, sign portending coming events) in heaven; a woman (Virgo) clothed with the sun, and THE MOON UNDER HER FEET, and upon her head a crown of twelve stars: And she being with child cried, travailing in birth, and pained to be delivered. And there appeared another wonder in heaven; and behold a great red dragon, having seven heads and ten horns, and seven crowns upon his heads. And his tail drew the third part of the stars of heaven (representing the fallen angels), and did cast them to the earth: and the dragon stood before the woman which was ready to be delivered, for to devour her child as soon as it was born. And she brought forth a man child (man is neuter gender, i.e., the Body of Christ), who was to rule all nations with a rod of iron: and her child was caught up (harpazo, as in I Thess. 4:16) unto God, and to his throne."

As Jesus ascended, the Bride of Christ will be caught up in the Pre-Trib Rapture. As Jesus will rule with a rod of iron, so will the ones that are raptured. Rev 2:26-29 says, "And he that overcometh, and keepeth my works unto the end, to him will I give power over the nations: And he shall rule them with A ROD OF IRON; as the vessels of a potter shall they be broken to shivers: even as I received of my Father. And I will give him the morning star. He that hath an ear, let him hear what the Spirit saith unto the churches."

The Moon is under the feet of Virgo on the true Tishri 1, the Feast of Trumpets. I believe that Jesus was born on Tishri 1, but why is this word for "man" not masculine gender?

In Rev. 12, the Moon is seen under the feet of Virgo. That scene was observed in the sky when Jesus was born on the Feast of Trumpets in 5 BC. Chances are good that the Moon will be in the same position at the Pre-Trib Rapture and at the Pre-Wrath Rapture.

If Oct. 1, 2008 will be the true Tishri 1, 5769, when the Moon is under the feet of Virgo, maybe the first Rapture will be on that day.

The man child of Rev. 12 seems to be the Body of Christ. The date when the Moon is under the feet of Virgo is Tishri 1, the Feast of Trumpets. Since the head (Jesus) was born on Tishri 1, and the Pre-Wrath Rapture will be on Tishri 1, maybe the Pre-Trib Rapture will also be on Tishri 1.

Rev 12:5,6 says, "And she (the virgin of Israel) brought forth a man child, who was to rule all nations with a rod of iron: and her child was caught up unto God, and to his throne. And the woman fled into the wilderness, where she hath a place (Petra) prepared of God, that they should feed her there a thousand two hundred and threescore days."

Rev 12:12 Therefore rejoice, ye heavens, AND YE THAT DWELL IN THEM (those caught up in the Pre-Trib Rapture). Woe to the inhabiters of the earth and of the sea! for the devil is come down unto you, having great wrath, because he knoweth that he hath but a short time." The Great Tribulation, the last half of the Tribulation, will be shortened.

Note the similarity of events listed below in our 1968 and the Jewish 5768. They may be signs.

1968: "On December 24th 1968 Apollo 8 (note the number “8”) had a faithful mission. On the largest broadcast to date they hovered above the moon and read the first 10 verses of Genesis declaring the Creation & Glory of God!"

5768: "Full Moon & eclipse – On August 16th the whole world with exception of North America experienced a lunar eclipse of the full moon. This occurred at the same time as Tu B’ Av, the Full Moon Jewish holiday. This was the day the Israelites literally crawled out of their graves “knowing” that they would soon be entering into the Promised Land"

Will we soon be entering into our promised land?


"A. Preparations for the Fall holidays begin one month in advance. On Elul 1 a forty-day period of introspection begins. This time of examination of one's life ends on the Day of Atonement.

"1. The Hebrew word for this period of time, "Teshuvah" means "to return or repent."

"2. During the 30 days prior to Tishri 1, the shofar is blown each morning in the synagogue to remind the people that the holy days are approaching and that they should prepare themselves.

"B. Although God only ordained that this feast be celebrated for one day, a second day was added due to the uncertainty of the Jewish calendar....

2. There are three types of blasts that are sounded with a shofar: a long, unwavering blast (Tekiah); three short, broken blasts (shevarim); and a nine-part staccato blast (teruah).

3. There were several specific uses for the shofar in Scripture:

a. It was sounded to bring Moses to the top of Mt. Sinai (Ex. 19:19-20)

b. It was sounded during a time of war--as a battle alarm (Numb. 10:9; Judges 3:27, Amos 3:6)

c. It gathered an assembly before the Lord (Numbers 10:2-4)

d. It announced the coronation of a new king (I Kings 1:34, 39).

e. It was blown at the start of the year of Jubilee (Lev. 25:9)...

4. Ancient rabbis suggested that the purpose for the blowing of the shofar on the Feast of Trumpets is to confound and confuse the Adversary--Satan. "They believed that the many blasts of the shofar on Rosh Hashanah would confuse Satan, leading him to believe that the Messiah had arrived and his authority had ended. Based upon this tradition, it is customary to sound a total of 100 shofar blasts on each day of the Rosh Hashanah synagogue services." Howard, p. 110)...

E. For two thousand years the liturgy of Rosh Hashanah has revolved around three specific themes and they dominate the worship in synagogues during this holiday:

1. God's Kingship and sovereignty--His authority over creation (Rosh Hashanah is thought to commemorate the creation of the world or the birthday of the world)....

F. According to Jewish tradition, God opens three books on Rosh Hashanah: the Book of Life for the wicked, the Book of Life for the righteous and the Book of Life for the in-between. God, as Judge, reviews each person's deeds during the past year....

2. His (Jesus') 40-day period of testing by the Adversary correlates to the 40-day period of preparation and introspection of these Fall holidays.

3. When Jesus began His ministry at the end of His temptation He declared "Repent for the kingdom of heaven is at hand." (Matt 4:17)

B. It is possible that Rosh Hashanah will be fulfilled when Jesus comes in the clouds for His bride
1 Kings 8:2, "And all the men of Israel assembled themselves unto king Solomon at the feast in the month Ethanim (meaning incessant rain), which is the seventh month." Ethanim is also called Tishri.

1Ki 8:6 And the priests brought in the ark of the covenant of the LORD unto HIS PLACE, into the oracle of the house, to the most holy place, even under the wings of the cherubims.

In John 14:2-4, Jesus said, "In my Father's house are many mansions: if it were not so, I would have told you. I go to prepare a place for you. And if I go and prepare a place for you, I will come again, and receive you unto myself; that where I am, there ye may be also. And whither I go (i.e., Saturn, the third heaven) ye know, and the way ye know." We do know the way. Our spacecraft Cassini is in orbit around Saturn now.

"A special season known as ‘Teshuvah’ which in Hebrew means “to return or repent”, begins on the first day of the month of Elul and continues 40 days, ending with Yom Kippur.

"Ephesians 4:30, being sealed unto the day of redemption refers to Yom Kippur, the Day of Atonement. God gave this festival to teach us that we will be judged on Rosh HaShanah and will be sealed unto the closing of the gates on Yom Kippur. ...

"On Rosh HaShanah, a shofar delivers the first blast, a silver trumpet the second, and then a shofar the third....

"The gates of Heaven are opened on Rosh HaShanah so the righteous nation may enter (Isaiah 26:2, Psalm 118:19-20). Because the gates of Heaven are understood to be open on Rosh HaShanah, this is further evidence that the Rapture of the believers in Christ could take place on Rosh HaShanah.

"One of the reasons for blowing the shofar is to proclaim the resurrection of the dead. The resurrection of the dead will take place on Rosh HaShanah....

"Isaiah 57:1-2 speaks clearly of the resurrection of the dead, the taking of the believers, and the hiding of the believers from the indignation (the tribulation)....

"Psalm 27:5 says the righteous will be hid in the time of trouble....

"If you add the two-day Trumpets Feast, and the Day of Atonement, the 7 Days of Awe are “ten days of tribulation” which might be referred to in Rev. 2:10."

Incoming e-mail, Re: There is no pre-trib rapture!

I read your post on Bible Prophecy Corner and even though I know you will not receive it, I must warn you any way. As a true watchman of God it is my reasonable service to Him. There is no pre-trib rapture! That is a doctrine of devils and it will cause the fall of many. When things start to pored out on the Earth here shortly, the children of God will not be ready, they will not understand, and many's faith will be shaken beyond repair. Those who have taught these doctrines will be held accountable before God. I urge you in the Spirit of God to put away you pre- conceived notions and prayerfully seek the Lord with all your heart, that He would reveal His truth to you before it is to late!

These things I write to you in love, not in debate. I know if you will seek Jesus on this issue, He is faithful to answer. However, I will leave you with a question you will not believe but, you should! If the church is to be raptured before the tribulation, then why is Revelation 11 about to be fulfilled ? There here! The Salt

My reply

I didn't have a preconceived opinion. I knew that the Lord would return though. I read the entire Bible and came to the conclusion that there are two Raptures, a first trump and a "last trump." Now after 48 years of studying, I am still convinced that there is a Pre-Trib Rapture (I Thess. 4:13-18; Rev. 4:1) and a Pre-Wrath Rapture (I Cor. 15:51,52; Rev. 7:14), At the first Rapture, the saints become incorruptible. At the last Rapture, all saints, including the first-Rapture saints, become immortal. 2Tim 2:15 says, "Study to shew thyself approved unto God, a workman that needeth not to be ashamed, rightly DIVIDING the word of truth."


In 1Th 4:16,17, Paul said, "For the Lord himself shall descend from heaven with a shout, with the voice of the archangel, and with THE TRUMP OF GOD (the first trump): and the dead in Christ shall rise first: Then we which are alive and remain shall be caught up together with them in the clouds, to meet the Lord in the air: and so shall we ever be with the Lord."

In 1Cor 15:42, Paul said, re "the resurrection of the dead. It is sown in corruption; it is raised in incorruption".

Yet, Heb 11:40 says, "God having provided some better thing for us, that they (Old Testament saints) without us should NOT BE MADE PERFECT."


In 1Cor 15:51-53, Paul said, "Behold, I shew you a mystery; We shall not all sleep, but WE SHALL ALL BE CHANGED, In a moment, in the twinkling of an eye, at the LAST TRUMP: for the trumpet shall sound, and the dead shall be raised incorruptible, and WE (including Paul) shall be changed. For this corruptible must put on incorruption (i.e., at the 1st Rapture), and this mortal must put on immortality" (i.e., at the last Rapture).

Jesus set the "open door" of Rev. 3:8 before the Philadelphian saints, for whom he had no words of condemnation. John was one of them.

When Jesus said, "COME UP HITHER," John went up to Heaven in Rev. 4:1. He immediately sat on his throne with the other 23 elders, the 12 patriarchs and 11 apostles that were raptured at the same time he was (Rev. 4:4). The 24 elders are all Israelites.

Concerning the other saints, Rev. 5:9 says, "And they sung a NEW SONG, saying, Thou art worthy to take the book, and to open the seals thereof: for thou wast slain, and hast redeemed us to God by thy blood OUT OF EVERY KINDRED, AND TONGUE, AND PEOPLE, AND NATION." Wow! There are many more saints than just the 24 Israelites sitting on their thrones, and these saints are out of every nation on Earth.


Nu. 10:1-4 says, "the LORD spake unto Moses, saying, Make thee TWO TRUMPETS of silver; of a whole piece shalt thou make them: that thou mayest USE THEM FOR THE CALLING OF THE ASSEMBLY, and FOR THE JOURNEYING OF THE CAMPS. And when they shall blow with them (BOTH), ALL THE ASSEMBLY SHALL ASSEMBLE THEMSELVES TO THEE at the door of the tabernacle of the congregation. And IF THEY BLOW BUT WITH ONE TRUMPET, THEN THE PRINCES (i.e., the 24 elders of Rev. 4:4), WHICH ARE HEADS OF THE THOUSANDS OF ISRAEL, SHALL GATHER THEMSELVES UNTO THEE."

Heb 12:22,23 says, "ye are come unto mount Sion, and unto the city of the living God, the HEAVENLY JERUSALEM, and to an innumerable company of angels, TO THE GENERAL ASSEMBLY and church of the firstborn, which are written in heaven, and to God the Judge of all, and to the spirits of just men MADE PERFECT" (immortal).

The Tribulation has not yet begun in Rev. 4 and 5. These saints are there in glory, Heaven, to witness Jesus receiving the seven-sealed little book, the Title Deed to the Earth. The Tribulation does not begin until Jesus breaks the first seal in Rev. 6. Notice that these saints sing the "NEW SONG." Psalm 149:5 says, "Let the saints be joyful in glory: let them SING aloud upon their beds."

These are the ones that took heed to Luke 21:36. It says, "Watch ye therefore, and pray always, that ye may be accounted WORTHY TO ESCAPE all these things that shall come to pass, and to stand before the Son of man." We should take heed to I John 1:9. It says, "If we confess our sins, he is faithful and just to forgive us our sins, and to cleanse us from ALL unrighteousness."

As the Tribulation begins, Rev 6:1 says, "I saw when the Lamb opened one of the seals, and I heard, as it were the noise of thunder, one of the four beasts saying, Come and see."

At the end of the Tribulation, immediately after the Day of God's Wrath has come, there is another Rapture. Rev 6:17 says, "For the great day of his wrath is come; and who shall be able to stand?

Rev 7:9,14 says, "After this I beheld, and, lo, a great multitude, which no man could number, of all nations, and kindreds, and people, and tongues, stood before the throne, and before the Lamb, clothed with white robes, and palms in their hands...And he said to me, THESE ARE THEY WHICH CAME OUT OF GREAT TRIBULATION, and have washed their robes, and made them white in the blood of the Lamb."

Rev 14:3-5 says, "And they sung as it were a NEW SONG before the throne, and before the four beasts, and the elders: and NO MAN COULD LEARN THAT SONG BUT THE HUNDRED AND FORTY AND FOUR THOUSAND (Israelites), WHICH WERE REDEEMED FROM THE EARTH. These are they which were not defiled with women; for THEY ARE VIRGINS. These are they which follow the Lamb whithersoever he goeth. These were redeemed from among men, being the firstfruits unto God and to the Lamb. And in their mouth was found no guile: for they are WITHOUT FAULT BEFORE THE THRONE OF GOD."

Of all those that come out of the Great Tribulation, none are worthy to sing the NEW SONG but the 144,000 Israelites. The foolish virgins have lost that right.

At the end of the Tribulation, the Lord will gather all the Pre-Trib saints from one end of heaven to the other to the General Assembly in Heaven.

Mt 24:30,31 says, "And then shall appear THE SIGN OF THE SON OF MAN in heaven: and then shall all the tribes of the earth mourn, and they shall see the Son of man coming in the clouds of heaven with power and great glory. And he shall send his angels with a great sound of a trumpet (on the Feast of Trumpets), and they shall gather together his elect from the four winds, FROM ONE END OF HEAVEN TO THE OTHER."

These are the saints caught up in the first Rapture, the Pre-Trib Rapture. They have been in Heaven while the Tribulation was taking place on Earth.

Mark 13:26,27 is different. It includes the second Rapture, the Pre-Wrath Rapture. It says, "And then shall they see the Son of man coming in the clouds with great power and glory. And then shall he send his angels, and shall gather together his elect from the four winds, from the uttermost part of the EARTH to the uttermost part of HEAVEN." Those gathered from Earth are the Tribulation saints. They are caught up in the second Rapture, the Pre-Wrath Rapture. Agape

Today Marks Ninth of Av Fast Day - Birthday of the Messiah
by Tzvi Ben Gedalyahu

( Jews around the world are joining those in Israel Sunday to mark the Ninth of the Hebrew month of Av fast day, the day of mourning for the fall of the First and Second Temples. Jerusalem police have closed all entrances to the Old City to vehicular traffic in anticipation of a large number of worshippers to the Western Wall (Kotel)....

Torah sages also teach that the Messiah will be born on Tisha B'Av as a sign that there is yet redemption in all the destruction.

Incoming e-mail, Re: ???

"Seculars Want Temple', as Fast of Av Begins Saturday Night
by Hillel Fendel

...Its name literally means "the ninth day of the Jewish month of Av," the date of some of the gravest tragedies to have befallen the Jewish People. Most notably, both Holy Temples in Jerusalem were destroyed on Tisha B'Av, but the list of calamities includes also the following:
G-d decreed, following the Sin of the Spies as recounted in Numbers 13-14, that the Children of Israel would not be allowed to enter the Land of Israel until the entire generation had died out.
The fall of Beitar, the last fortress to hold out during the Bar Kochba revolt in the year 135 C.E., fell to the Romans, marking the last milestone in the beginning of our current Exile.
A year later, the Temple area was plowed under.
The Jews of Spain were expelled by King Ferdinand and Queen Isabella in 1492.
World War I erupted in 1914.
The Jews of Gush Katif spent their last legal day in their homes in 2005...
"Secular Jews for the Temple"
The centerpiece of Tisha B'Av mourning is the destruction of the Holy Temple (Beit HaMikdash). Among the many groups that have sprouted over the past several years promoting awareness of the Beit HaMikdash is one named "Secular Jews for the Temple." Ahuvyah Tabenkin of left-wing Kibbutz Ein Harod said, "It's true that we don't exactly represent a majority of secular Kibbutz members... but the pioneers have always been a minority... But I hope that soon we will be the leaders." Tabenkin has nationalist, political and historical reasons why the Temple and the Temple Mount are looks like we [the secular] will also have to build the Beit HaMikdash."

Asked whether he calls for the actual construction of the Temple, he said, "There are many religious authorities, including Maimonides, who say that the Temple must be rebuilt, and so I think it should be done... As a first step, we must show that we control the Temple Mount... I call upon all of Israel to come to the Mount on [Tisha B'Av] and show that it belongs to the Jewish nation."...

My reply

Thanks. I wonder if the peace agreement will give Israel the right to build their temple between the Dome of the Rock and the Al Aksa Mosque. Agape

"A New Beginning"

By Pastor F.M. Riley (25 Aug 2007)

...Number Seven

Seven (7) is the Bible number that is always associated with the doctrine of completeness or fulfillment throughout the Scriptures. It means, “to complete; bring to an end; bring to closure; to close; to fill up; to fulfill; to bring to fulfillment.”

Number Eight

Eight (8) is the Bible number that follows seven and throughout the Bible it is associated with the doctrine of new things. It means, “to begin anew; a new day; a new time; a new birth; a new start; a new beginning.”

Now emphasizing these two numbers, by the Grace of God I want to share with our readers a wonderful…..

Previously Hidden Truth

After some 1827 years of dispersion among the Gentile nations of the earth, the Lord began to move on behalf of the Jewish people in 1897. This was when Theodor Herzl convened the 1st Jewish Congress at Basel, Switzerland. The purpose of that meeting was specifically to launch an organized effort to find a national homeland for the long dispersed Jewish people. Out of that meeting came the Zionist Organization, which in 1898 assumed the leadership role in searching for a Jewish homeland. A new beginning!

Ten years later in 1907 the Great White Fleet of the United States of America sailed into the harbor at Tokyo, Japan and forced the Japanese Emperor to open up his country to world commerce and modernization. Up until that time Japan was a closed country. The Japanese people were living in the same primitive way they had lived for hundreds of years. The Japanese Emperor wanted to protect his people from the outside world where the Industrial Revolution was taking place and modern technology was advancing. But the Lord knew that Japan had a role to play in end-time events. After the Great White Fleet of the U.S. sailed to Japan and literally threatened to open up Japanese markets by an invasion if necessary, the Japanese Emperor opened up his country to world trade in 1908. A new beginning!

By 1917 the 1st World War was winding down. On December 9, 1917 Jerusalem was freed from Turkish control by the combined military forces of Great Britain and the United States under the command of the English General, Lord Allenby. Read Psalm 17 and Isaiah 31:4-5. This paved the way for the Jews to begin returning to the Holy Land. In the next few months all fighting ceased and an Armistice was signed on November 11, 1918 ushering in a new era [for a short time] of world peace. A new beginning!

In 1927 Europe was already in the midst of a collapsing economy and turmoil was everywhere. A group of disgruntled young radicals in Germany began seeking the cause of such economic chaos. They blamed all of Europe’s woes on the Jews in Europe, and especially those Jews in Germany. In 1928 the Nazi Party was organized with the express aim of taking over the German government and ridding Germany of the Jews. One of the charter members of the Nazi Party was…guess who? A new beginning!

In 1937 Adolph Hitler was busy expanding the borders of Germany through a show of military strength, coercing, demanding, threatening, and oppressing neighboring countries in Europe, and annexing parts or all of their territories to Germany. He was still blaming the Jews for all of Europe’s problems. The military arm of his Nazi Party was bitterly persecuting Jews in Germany and the annexed territories, while the rest of the world looked on silently. Jews were being falsely accused, imprisoned, beaten, tortured, etc. and the so-called “world community” was doing nothing. Finally, in 1938 war officially broke out in Europe and Hitler and his cronies put into effect their “Final Solution” to the Jewish problem. They began systematically exterminating the Jewish people in the gas chambers and ovens of their concentration camps. A new beginning!

In 1947, two years after the end of the 2nd World War, the United Nations approved a resolution dividing the land of Palestine into two states; one for the Arabs and the other for the Jews. The U.N. believed this would solve the conflict that had existed between Arabs and Jews since the implementation of the British Mandate following the 1st World War. The Jews hastily set up a provisional government, and when the British governor ended the British Mandate on May 14, 1948, David Ben Guiron, the Jewish provisional Prime Minister, publicly announced that the state of Israel was now an independent nation among the nations of the world. A new beginning!

In 1957 the Suez Canal war, which had broken out in 1956, came to an official end. As 1958 began a period of relative calm settled over the Middle East even though the Arab nations refused to sign a Peace Treaty and were still “technically” at a state of war with Israel. A new beginning!

In 1967 Egypt, Syria, and Jordan had united in a military alliance and were preparing to “drive Israel into the sea” [the exact words of Nassar of Egypt]. But Israel struck first in the now famous Six Day War. In that war Israel regained the whole city of Jerusalem, the entire west bank, and the entire Sinai peninsula. In the aftermath of the war the secular [non-religious] leaders of Israel gave the Temple Mount back to the Muslims and the Sinai back to Egypt. Because of their secular unbelief [Compare Numbers 14:26-35], in 1968 [Rosh HaShanah 1967 forward] Israel began 40 more years of servitude to the Gentile nations of the earth. Another new beginning!

In 1977, four years after the Yom Kippur war of 1973, negotiations began between Israel and Egypt to end their “state of war” and sign a permanent Peace Treaty. This effort was encouraged and mediated by then U. S. President Jimmy Carter. A Peace Treaty was signed between the two countries in 1978. A new beginning!

In 1987 Mikhail Gorbachev of Russia declared “perestroika” [openness] to all the Communist countries in the Soviet Union, beginning the process which ultimately led to the collapse of the whole USSR. At that time Ronald Reagan was President of the United States, and in a show of friendship invited Gorbachev to visit America. Gorbachev accepted the invitation, arriving in the U.S. on December 7, 1987 [Pearl Harbor Day] for an official visit. The next day, December 8, 1987, the Palestinian uprising began in Israel. Early in 1988 the Palestinian leaders called for the Muslim people to begin their first “Intifada” in Israel. A new beginning!

In 1997, four years after the agreement signed in 1993, negotiations were again taking place between Arafat of the Palestinians and Barak of Israel to find a “permanent” solution to the problems between the two peoples. The negotiations were being mediated by then U. S. President Bill Clinton. In 1998 a “Accord” was signed between the two parties, supposedly marking a new era of “peace.” A new beginning!

Folks, in writing this study, I didn’t have to stretch, strain, or invent anything. Everything I have pointed out is documented history. I ask you, the reader, did this all happen just this way by coincidence? Or was the unseen hand of God in it directing the affairs of men? Every year ending in seven during the past century a particular set of circumstances came to an end [was fulfilled or completed], and every year ending in eight there was a new beginning!

Now humanity has arrived at 2007. What now? What ending [fulfillment; completion] is the Lord going to bring to pass this year; 2007, that will result in a new beginning in 2008?
Glory! Glory! Glory! Hallelujah! Praise the Lord! I THINK I KNOW! Do you?

“For the Lord Himself shall descend from heaven with a shout, with the voice of the archangel, and with the trump of God: and the dead in Christ shall rise first: Then we which are alive and remain shall be caught up together with them in the clouds, to meet the Lord in the air: and so shall we ever be with the Lord. Wherefore comfort one another with these words.” Thessalonians 4:16-18

   Pro and Con 1430   Or Return   Home

Contact me for more information at:

Send me e-mail now

8641 Sugar Gum Rd, Riverside, CA 92508, USA; (951) 653-4110

© 1996-2008, Marilyn J. Agee; Updated 8-22-08