Pro and Con 1461

Posted 1-7-09

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Study: Diamonds link comet to mammal extinction

http://www.cnn.com/2009/TECH/science/01/02/comet.diamonds/index.html

(CNN) - 1-2-09 - Tiny diamonds found in the soil are "strong evidence" a comet exploded on or above North America nearly 13,000 years ago, leading to the extinction of dozens of mammal species...

The heat generated by the extraterrestrial impact likely melted much of a glacier that once covered the Great Lakes region, sending a massive flood down the Mississippi River...

"A rare swarm" of comets rained over North America about 12,900 years ago, sparking fires that produced choking, leading "to the extinction of a large range of animals, including mammoths, across North America"....

The scientists studied layers of sediment dated to 12,900 years ago at six North American locations, including one directly on top of a Clovis site in Murray Springs, Arizona. Each layer was rich in nanodiamonds, which are produced under high-temperature, high-pressure conditions created by cosmic impacts, the report said.

"The nanodiamonds that we found at all six locations exist only in sediments associated with the Younger Dryas Boundary layers, not above it or below it,"...

Evidence for an Extraterrestrial Impact Event 12,900 years ago that Contributed to Megafaunal Extinctions and the Younger Dryas Cooling

http://www.agu.org/meetings/sm07/sm07-sessions/sm07_PP43A.html

The Younger Dryas event boundary (YDB) is a thin sedimentary layer of 12.9 ka age containing an assemblage of materials formed due to a major ET impact centered over northern North America. The event coincided with the megafaunal extinctions and the Younger Dryas cooling episode. The YDB layer contains peaks in magnetic grains, MICROSPHERULES, AND IRIDIUM, in addition to charcoal and soot that resulted from extensive wildfires. Two impact-related carbon-rich markers, glass-like carbon and carbon spherules, have not been reported previously in North America. Vesicular, glass-like carbon, in pieces up to several cm, occurs in the YDB at 22 sites with concentrations ranging up to 16 g/kg. Their glassy texture suggests melting during formation...

Are Diamonds Really Forever?

http://www.als.lbl.gov/als/science/sci_archive/72buckydiamond.html

Nanodiamonds—particles of diamond dust measured in nanometers—have been found in meteorites, protoplanetary nebulae, and interplanetary dust.

Gems Point to Comet as Answer to Ancient Riddle

By Joel Achenbach, Washington Post Staff Writer, Jan 2, 09
My note: See the picture at this address. Nanodiamonds are different than diamond crystals we are accustomed to. http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2009/01/01/AR2009010101490.html?hpid=moreheadlines

Something dramatic happened about 12,900 years ago, and the continent of North America was never the same....Gone...were most of the largest animals: horses, camels, lions, mammoths, mastodons, saber-toothed cats, ground sloths and giant armadillos.

Scientists have long blamed climate change for the extinctions, for it was 12,900 years ago that the planet's emergence from the Ice Age came to a halt, reverting to glacial conditions for 1,500 years, an epoch known as the Younger Dryas.

In just the last few years, there has arisen a controversial scientific hypothesis to explain this chain of events, and it involves an extraterrestrial calamity: a comet, broken into fragments, turning the sky ablaze, sending a shock wave across the landscape and scorching forests, creatures, people and anything exposed to the heavenly fire.

Now the proponents of this apocalyptic scenario say they have found a new line of evidence: nanodiamonds. They say they have found these tiny structures across North America in sediments from 12,900 years ago, and they argue that the diamonds had to have been formed by a high-temperature, high-pressure event, such as a cometary impact....

My comments

That cometary impact sounds like the String of Pearls that hit Jupiter. Some of those black spots were as large as 3 Earths. Maybe a similar String of Pearls hit Earth between the first 2 verses in Genesis.

I remember that iridium and spherules were found at the K-T Boundary all over the world. Iridium is the signature of an asteroid impact, and now I find out, also of a swarm of comets. These comets also strewed nanodiamonds. Interesting. These diamonds are caused by detonation. When a TNT/RDX mixture is detonated, nanodiamonds form.

My Note: TNT is added to RDX to make it more stable. The mixture is called Composition B. How did I know that? My dad was Safety Engineer at Holston Ordinance Works in Kingsport, TN. They made Composition B during WW II. Never allowed to "talk" during the war, he could tell us that when he was allowed to take us through the plant after putting it on standby after the war.

The Science Daily press release on 1-2-09 said, "Six North American Sites Hold 12900-year-old Nanodiamond-rich Soil...These nanodiamonds, which are produced under high-temperature, high-pressure conditions created by cosmic impacts...have been found in meteorites" (which are from asteroids).

This got my attention: "'A rare swarm' of comets rained over North America about 12,900 years ago, sparking fires that produced choking, leading "to the extinction of a large range of animals, including mammoths, across North America".

Just maybe this is the catastrophe that caused the good Earth to become waste and desolation during the time between the first two verses of the Bible.

Gen 1:1 says, "In the beginning God created the heaven and the earth." Everything he made was good. Isa 45:18 says, "thus saith the LORD that created the heavens; God himself that formed the earth and made it; he hath established it, HE CREATED IT NOT IN VAIN (tohu, desolation), HE FORMED IT TO BE INHABITED".

Gen 1:2 says, "And the earth was (hayah, use denotes change, lit., earth became) without form (tohu, desolation), and void (bohu, empty ruin); and darkness was upon the face of the deep. And the Spirit of God moved upon the face of the waters."

The darkness is what caused the glaciers to creep down upon the US midwest. Later, the Lord removed the darkness and caused the glaciers to retreat. Melt waters formed Lake Agassiz in the middle of the country. The Spirit of God moving upon the face of the waters accomplished this, and today's glacier melting can be caused the same way.

Psa 104:30 says, "Thou sendest forth thy spirit, they are created: and thou renewest (chadash, to repair, renew) the FACE OF THE EARTH", so something happened to ruin the original Earth. It needed renewing to make it a fit habitat for Adam. Since asteroid impact had wiped out the dinosaurs earlier, maybe this comet's String of Pearls wiped out the mammoths and caused the Earth to need renewing in Adam's day.

My reply to a post on the Five Doves site, Re: Paul Synder (30 Dec 2008) "RAPTURE"

http://www.fivedoves.com/letters/dec2008/pauls1230.htm

> > Ezekiel 38 was tied to the rapture

I think Ezekiel 38 is about attacking Israel, not about the Rapture..

Eze 38:14-16 says, "Therefore, son of man, prophesy and say unto Gog, Thus saith the Lord GOD; In that day when my people of ISRAEL dwelleth safely, shalt thou not know it? And thou shalt come from thy place out of the north (Moscow is due north of Israel, not the USA) parts, thou, and many people with thee, all of them riding upon horses, a great company, and a mighty army: And thou shalt come up against my people of ISRAEL, as a cloud to cover the land; it shall be in the latter days, and I will bring thee against MY LAND, that the heathen may know me, when I shall be sanctified in thee, O Gog, before their eyes".

The time is the Day of God's Wrath, when the asteroid of Rev. 8:8,9 impacts the Mediterranean Sea, and the asteroid called Wormwood in Rev. 8:10,11 will destroy Babylon.

Eze. 38:18-20 says, "And it shall come to pass at the same time WHEN GOG SHALL COME AGAINST THE LAND OF ISRAEL, SAITH THE LORD GOD, THAT MY FURY SHALL COME UP IN MY FACE. For in my jealousy and in the fire of MY WRATH have I spoken, Surely in that day there shall be a great shaking in the land of ISRAEL; So that the fishes of the sea, and the fowls of the heaven, and the beasts of the field, and all creeping things that creep upon the earth, and all the men that are upon the face of the earth, shall shake at my presence (paniym, face, i.e., the Sign of the Son of Man will be seen in the sky; Mt. 24:30), and the mountains (i.e., 2 asteroids; Rev. 8:8-11) shall be thrown down, and the steep places shall fall, and every wall shall fall to the ground." .

The asteroid called Wormwood, which means bitterness, is Satan's present home. Isa. 22:16-19 says, "What hast thou here? (Babylon, Iraq) and whom hast thou here (the Satan-possessed False Prophet), that thou hast hewed thee out a sepulchre here, as he (Satan) that heweth him out a sepulchre on high, and that graveth an habitation for himself in a rock? Behold, the LORD will carry thee away with a mighty captivity, and will surely cover thee. HE WILL SURELY VIOLENTLY TURN AND TOSS THEE LIKE A BALL INTO A LARGE COUNTRY: there shalt thou die, and there the chariots of thy glory shall be the shame of thy lord's house. And I will drive thee from thy station, and from thy state shall he pull thee down." Agape

His reply, Re: post-trib vs pre-wrath

Ok, thanks. Again Marilyn, you seem extremely knowledgeable of Scripture, but the case you build depends heavily on what you read into Scripture, rather than what the Scripture says. Try to let the Scripture speak for itself.

Two points to push, then I'm done.

1) I'm going to push for a better explanation of this in particular. Jesus states this in Rev 14 immediately before the seventh vial is poured out.

15"Behold, I come like a thief! Blessed is he who stays awake and keeps his clothes with him, so that he may not go naked and be shamefully exposed. 16 Then they gathered the kings together to the place that in Hebrew is called Armageddon."

Do you believe Jesus comes like a thief twice during the last 7 years? Nevermind that to some he will not come like a thief, that part is established by Paul. Jesus says this nevertheless at this particular time of His coming. Post-trib submits that he comes "like a thief" --- using His words, only ONCE ... on the Day of the Lord. I submit that this is the more reasonable position. Two many major events happen TWICE in the pre-trib position, making it a tough pill to swallow.

2) This is clear Scriptural evidence that speaks for itself. The below evidence is why I believe Second Advent, the seventh vial, the seventh trumpet, and the seventh seal, all occur on one day ... the Day of the Lord. Pls take a look at these 5 markers 1) Lightning 2) rumblings 3) peals of thunder 4) earthquake 5) hailstorm ---- all markings of His coming. Markers are in BOLD. Pls read everything closely.

PSALM 16:7-16: The earth trembled and quaked, and the foundations of the mountains shook; they trembled because he was angry. Smoke rose from his nostrils; consuming fire came from his mouth, burning coals blazed out of it. He parted the heavens and came down; dark clouds were under his feet. He mounted the cherubim and flew; he soared on the wings of the wind. He made darkness his covering, his canopy around him- the dark rain clouds of the sky. Out of the brightness of his presence clouds advanced, with hailstones and bolts of lightning. The LORD thundered from heaven; the voice of the Most High resounded. [c] He shot his arrows and scattered the enemies, great bolts of lightning and routed them. The valleys of the sea were exposed and the foundations of the earth laid bare at your rebuke, O LORD, at the blast of breath from your nostrils. He reached down from on high and took hold of me; he drew me out of deep waters. (rapture)

5 of 5 markers --- His Second Advent

THE SEVENTH VIAL

17The seventh angel poured out his bowl into the air, and out of the temple came a loud voice from the throne, saying, "It is done!" 18Then there came flashes of lightning, rumblings, peals of thunder and a severe earthquake. No earthquake like it has ever occurred since man has been on earth, so tremendous was the quake. 19The great city split into three parts, and the cities of the nations collapsed. God remembered Babylon the Great and gave her the cup filled with the wine of the fury of his wrath. 20Every island fled away and the mountains could not be found. 21From the sky huge hailstones of about a hundred pounds each fell upon men. And they cursed God on account of the plague of hail, because the plague was so terrible. Revelation 14

5 of 5 markers --- His Second Advent

THE SEVENTH SEAL

3Another angel, who had a golden censer, came and stood at the altar. He was given much incense to offer, with the prayers of all the saints, on the golden altar before the throne. 4The smoke of the incense, together with the prayers of the saints, went up before God from the angel's hand. 5Then the angel took the censer, filled it with fire from the altar, and hurled it on the earth; and there came peals of thunder, rumblings, flashes of lightning and an earthquake.

4 of 5 markers --- His Second Advent

THE SEVENTH TRUMPET

15The seventh angel sounded his trumpet, and there were loud voices in heaven, which said: "The kingdom of the world has become the kingdom of our Lord and of his Christ, and he will reign for ever and ever." 16And the twenty-four elders, who were seated on their thrones before God, fell on their faces and worshiped God, 17saying: "We give thanks to you, Lord God Almighty, the One who is and who was, because you have taken your great power and have begun to reign. 18The nations were angry; and your wrath has come. The time has come for judging the dead, and for rewarding your servants the prophets and your saints and those who reverence your name, both small and great- and for destroying those who destroy the earth." 19Then God's temple in heaven was opened, and within his temple was seen the ark of his covenant. And there came flashes of lightning, rumblings, peals of thunder, an earthquake and a great hailstorm.

5 of 5 markers --- His Second Advent.

This is why I believe the seals, trumpets, and vials overlap each other, to all finish out on ONE DAY. I believe this is a pretty strong case that it ALL happens --- the rapture and His Second Advent on one spectacular day --- the Day of the Lord. There's a lot more Scriptural evidence to back this up. I'll send it if you'd like. Thanks for the exercise. Happy New Year! In Christ

Don't you think these markers are the Apostle John's way of clueing us in to His coming?

My reply

Don't worry. Scripture speaks for itself.

> > Do you believe Jesus comes like a thief twice during the last 7 years? Nevermind that to some he will not come like a thief, that part is established by Paul. Jesus says this nevertheless at this particular time of His coming. Post-trib submits that he comes "like a thief" --- using His words, only ONCE ... on the Day of the Lord. I submit that this is the more reasonable position. Two many major events happen TWICE in the pre-trib position, making it a tough pill to swallow.

Jesus comes as a thief at the Last Trump Rapture. There are two Raptures, two trumps of God, Pre-Trib (I Thess. 4:13-17) and Pre-Wrath (I Cor. 15:51,52). At the first, we will get bodies that are incorruptible. At the last, all saints will all be changed, actually become immortal.

At the time of the first Rapture, there are two groups of believers, wise virgins wearing white robes of righteousness and foolish virgins wearing robes spotted by sin. The wise virgins will be caught up in the first Rapture. The foolish virgins will be caught up in the last Rapture, when Jesus comes as a thief. Rev 19:8 says, "And to her (the Bride of Christ) was granted that she should be arrayed in fine linen, CLEAN AND WHITE: FOR THE FINE LINEN IS THE RIGHTEOUSNESS (lit., righteousnesses, Christ's righteousness and the righteous acts) OF SAINTS."

To the Tribulation saints, Rev. 7:14 says, "These are they which came out of GREAT TRIBULATION (the last half of the Tribulation), and have WASHED THEIR ROBES, AND MADE THEM WHITE IN THE BLOOD OF THE LAMB." They finally got wise and used I John 1:9. It says, "If we confess our sins, he is faithful and just to forgive us our sins, and to cleanse us from all unrighteousness."

All our "old sins" (II Peter 1:9) are wiped off the slate when we accept Christ as our own personal Saviour. Sins after that have to be confessed to also bring them under the blood of Christ.

II Peter 1:9-11 says, "But he that lacketh these things is blind (like the Laodiceans), and cannot see afar off (i.e., Heaven), and hath forgotten that he was purged from his OLD SINS. Wherefore the rather, brethren (believers), GIVE DILIGENCE TO MAKE YOUR CALLING AND ELECTION SURE: for if ye do these things (listed in the preceding verses), ye shall never fall: For so an entrance shall be ministered unto you abundantly into the everlasting kingdom of our Lord and Saviour Jesus Christ."

2Pe 1:4 tells us why we should do the things listed below it. It says, "Whereby are given unto us exceeding great and precious promises: that by these ye might be partakers of the divine nature". The divine nature is the same as the oil of the Holy Spirit.

Here is the list: II Peter 1:5-8 says, "giving all diligence, add to your faith virtue; and to virtue knowledge; And to knowledge temperance; and to temperance patience; and to patience godliness; And to godliness brotherly kindness; and to brotherly kindness charity. For if these things be in you, and abound, they make you that ye shall neither be barren nor unfruitful in the knowledge of our Lord Jesus Christ."

In case believers did not understand the message in the parable of the wise and foolish virgins, the Lord warned the CHURCH in Sardis. In Rev. 3:3, he said, "Remember therefore how thou hast received and heard, and hold fast, and REPENT. IF THEREFORE THOU SHALT NOT WATCH, I WILL COME ON THEE AS A THIEF (i.e., at the Last Trump Rapture), AND THOU SHALT NOT KNOW WHAT HOUR I WILL COME UPON THEE." By the time of the last trump Rapture, they should know the day.

Already, it looks like that day will be the Feast of Trumpets, Tishri 1, 5776; Sept. 14, 2015. The First Trump Rapture will probably take place between now and next Pentecost, maybe Ascension Day. The Head of the Body of Christ ascended on that day. The rest of the Body could be born into a new world on that day.

2Peter 3:10 warns us. It says, "THE DAY OF THE LORD WILL COME AS A THIEF IN THE NIGHT; in the which the heavens shall pass away with a great noise, and the elements shall melt with fervent heat, the earth also and the works that are therein shall be burned up."

There are children of the day (light) and children of the night (darkness), which may stand for the Tribulation..

In 1 Thess 5:1-9, Paul addressed believers, children of the day, saying, "But of the times and the seasons, BRETHREN (BELIEVERS), YE have no need that I write unto YOU (BELIEVERS). For YOURSELVES know perfectly that THE DAY OF THE LORD SO COMETH AS A THIEF IN THE NIGHT. For when THEY (UNBELIEVERS) shall say, Peace and safety; then sudden destruction cometh upon THEM, as travail upon a woman with child; and THEY SHALL NOT ESCAPE (ekpheugo, flee out, i.e., in the Pre-Wrath Rapture).BUT YE, BRETHREN (BELIEVERS), ARE NOT IN DARKNESS, THAT THAT DAY SHOULD OVERTAKE YOU AS A THIEF. YE ARE ALL THE CHILDREN OF LIGHT, AND THE CHILDREN OF THE DAY: WE ARE NOT OF THE NIGHT, NOR OF DARKNESS. Therefore let US not sleep, as do others; but let US watch and be sober. For THEY that sleep sleep in the night; and THEY that be drunken are drunken in the night. But let US, WHO ARE OF THE DAY, be sober, putting on the breastplate of faith and love; and for an helmet, THE HOPE OF SALVATION (soteria, RESCUE). For GOD HATH NOT APPOINTED US TO WRATH, but to obtain SALVATION (soteria, RESCUE) by our lord Jesus Christ."

In Luke 21:36, Jesus said, "WATCH ye therefore, and PRAY always, that ye may be accounted worthy to ESCAPE (ekpheugo, FLEE OUT, i.e., in the Pre-Trib Rapture) all these things that shall come to pass, and to stand before the Son of man."

Rev 5:9,10 says of the saints that were caught up to Heaven in Rev. 4:1, "they sung a new song, saying, Thou art worthy to take the book, and to open the seals thereof: for thou wast slain, and hast redeemed us to God by thy blood OUT OF EVERY KINDRED, AND TONGUE, AND PEOPLE, AND NATION. And hast made us unto our God kings and priests".

Rev 16:14-15 says, "For they are the spirits of devils, working miracles, which go forth unto the kings of the earth and of the whole world, to gather them to the battle of that great DAY OF GOD ALMIGHTY. Behold, I COME AS A THIEF. Blessed is he that watcheth, and keepeth his garments, lest he walk naked, and they see his shame.

On the Day of the Lord, Jesus will come as a thief and catch up the Tribulation saints.

Luke 17:22-31 shows that there are TWO DAYS OF THE SON OF MAN, i.e., two Raptures. It says, "And he (Jesus) said unto the disciples, The days will come, when ye shall desire to see ONE OF THE DAYS OF THE SON OF MAN (i.e., the Pre-Trib Rapture), and ye shall NOT SEE IT (i.e., got left behind the first time, like the foolish virgins). And they shall say to you, See here; or, see there: go not after them, nor follow them. For as the lightning, that lighteneth out of the one part under heaven, shineth unto the other part under heaven; so shall also the Son of man be in his day. But first must he suffer many things, and be rejected of this generation. And AS IT WAS IN THE DAYS OF NOE, SO SHALL IT BE ALSO IN THE DAYS (plural) OF THE SON OF MAN (i.e., there are two Days of the Son of Man, one as the days of Noah, the other as the days of Lot). They did eat, they drank, they married wives, they were given in marriage, until the day that Noe entered into the ark, and the flood came, and destroyed them all. LIKEWISE ALSO AS IT WAS IN THE DAYS OF LOT; they did eat, they drank, they bought, they sold, they planted, they builded; BUT THE SAME DAY THAT LOT WENT OUT OF SODOM IT RAINED FIRE AND BRIMSTONE FROM HEAVEN, AND DESTROYED THEM ALL. Even thus shall it be in the day when the Son of man is revealed (i.e., they see the Sign of the Son of Man that day (Mt. 24:30). In that day, he which shall be upon the housetop, and his stuff in the house, let him not come down to take it away: and he that is in the field, let him likewise not return back." They will not need anything, because they will be caught up in the Pre-Wrath Rapture.

There will be no fire and brimstone at the first Day of the Son of Man, but there will be lots of fire and brimstone at the second Day of the Son of Man. Sodom, Gomorrah and the cities of the plain were totally wiped out. Only ash heaps remain. The asteroid impact that split the Earth from Turkey to the Lake of Nyassa in Africa wiped them out. It punched down the bedrock under the Jordan River, and created the Dead Sea. Likewise, the two asteroids of Rev. 8:8-10 will impact Earth right after the Pre-Wrath Rapture, but don't look back. Remember Lot's wife.

> > 15,16 The valleys of the sea were exposed and the foundations of the earth laid bare at your rebuke, O LORD, at the blast of breath from your nostrils. He reached down from on high and took hold of me; he drew me out of deep waters. (rapture)

That is on the Day of God's Wrath, the time of the 2nd Rapture. The reason the "valleys of the sea were exposed" is because the asteroid of Rev. 8:8 hits the Mediterranean Sea.

> > 5Then the angel took the censer, filled it with fire from the altar, and hurled it on the earth; and there came peals of thunder, rumblings, flashes of lightning and an earthquake.

The censer filled with fire represents the asteroid Wormwood of Rev. 8:8-11 that will impact Earth. Evidently, it will break into at the Roche Limit, 11,000 miles out. One piece as big as a mountain will hit the Mediterranean Sea. The other will wipe out Babylon, Iraq.

> > His Second Advent

THE SEVENTH TRUMPET

15The seventh angel sounded his trumpet, and there were loud voices in heaven, which said: "The kingdom of the world has become the kingdom of our Lord and of his Christ, and he will reign for ever and ever." 16And the twenty-four elders, who were seated on their thrones before God, fell on their faces and worshiped God, 17saying: "We give thanks to you, Lord God Almighty, the One who is and who was, because you have taken your great power and have begun to reign. 18The nations were angry; and your wrath has come. The time has come for judging the dead, and for rewarding your servants the prophets and your saints and those who reverence your name, both small and great- and for destroying those who destroy the earth."

The Lord will be crowned in Heaven on this day. Both Earth and Heaven will keep silence (Rev 8:1; Hab 2:20) while he is being seated as Judge at the Judgment Seat of Christ. The saints will get their rewards in Heaven while the unbelievers on Earth get their just rewards for their unbelief. The Second Advent will come 7 months later (Eze. 39:12,13).

> > I believe the seals, trumpets, and vials overlap each other, to all finish out on ONE DAY. I believe this is a pretty strong case that it ALL happens --- the rapture and His Second Advent on one spectacular day --- the Day of the Lord.

Rev 11:15-19 (KJV) takes place in Heaven, and the Second Advent is still future. It says, "And the seventh angel sounded; and there were great voices IN HEAVEN, saying, The kingdoms of this world are become the kingdoms of our Lord, and of his Christ; and he shall reign for ever and ever. And the four and twenty elders (who were all caught up in Rev. 4:1), which sat before God on their seats, fell upon their faces, and worshipped God, Saying, We give thee thanks, O Lord God Almighty, which art (ON THE DAY OF GOD'S WRATH), and wast (AT THE FIRST ADVENT), and ART TO COME (future tense, i.e., AT THE 2ND ADVENT); because thou hast taken to thee thy great power, and hast reigned. And the nations were angry, and THY WRATH IS COME, and the time of the dead, that they should be JUDGED, and that thou shouldest give REWARD unto thy servants the prophets, and to the saints, and them that fear thy name, small and great; and shouldest destroy them which destroy the earth. And the temple of God was opened IN HEAVEN, and there was seen in his temple the ark of his testament: and there were lightnings, and voices, and thunderings, and an earthquake, and great hail."

> > Don't you think these markers are the Apostle John's way of clueing us in to His coming?

Eze. 39:12,13 tells us that the Second Advent is 7 months future. It says, "And SEVEN MONTHS shall the house of Israel be burying of them, that they may cleanse the land. Yea, all the people of the land shall bury them; and it shall be to them a renown the day that I shall be glorified, saith the Lord GOD. Agape

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