Pro and Con 1469

Posted 2-6-09

Sun Dog

http://spaceweather.com/submissions/large_image_popup.php?image_name=Ivar-Marthinusen-Halo1_1233268384.jpg

Meteor Explosion over Denmark on 1-17-09 lit up the night sky

Video of the Meteor coming in and exploding at least three times along the way, 1-17-09

http://1234.tv2.dk/article.php/id-19881715.html?forside

Israel finds huge natural gas reserve

Top official hails 'historic moment' that could transform nation's future By Jerome R. Corsi, January 23, 2009
http://www.worldnetdaily.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=86865

Mediterranean Sea
A huge deep-water natural gas find off the coast of Israel promises to be a boon to the Jewish state's economy as well as a stimulus to other developers searching for offshore oil and natural gas in the Mediterranean.

My reply to a post on Five Doves

Re: Ron Reese (26 Jan 2009)
"SEAL #1 OPENED WITH OBAMA--NEXT IS SEAL #2--SUDDEN DESTRUCTION AND RAPTURE!!!"

> > it is still a possibility that Jan. 11, 2009, was the first day of a 2520-day Tribulation, which would culminate on Dec. 6-7, 2015, on the eve of Hanukkah, which is 75 days (Daniel 12:12) after the final day of the 70th Week of Daniel, Sept. 23, 2015, on Feast of Atonement.

I believe that Sept. 23, 2015, the Day of Atonement, will be the day the Jubilee Year will be announced. The Jubilee should start the following Nisan 1 5776 (April 9, 2016), which should be the day of the Second Advent.

Rev. 9:5,6 shows that there are at least 5 months between the Day of God's Wrath and the Second Advent. It says, "And to them it was given that they should not kill them, but that they should be tormented FIVE MONTHS: and their torment was as the torment of a scorpion, when he striketh a man. And in those days shall men seek death, and shall not find it; and shall desire to die, and death shall flee from them.

Eze. 39:12,13 gives us the exact time, 7 months. It says, "And SEVEN MONTHS shall the house of Israel be burying of them, that they may cleanse the land. Yea, all the people of the land shall bury them; and it shall be to them a renown the day that I shall be glorified (i.e., at the Second Advent), saith the Lord GOD."

For there to be 7 months between Tishri 1 and the following Nisan 1, that year must be a Leap Year with the 13th month, Adar II. The Jewish 5776 is a Leap Year, so that fits.

THE ANCHOR DATE

I also think the date of the end of the 70th week of Daniel has to be on the Feast of Trumpets, not the Day of Atonement. It would be nice to have one anchor date to work from. Let's look at some scriptures, keeping two things in mind.

ON EARTH, IT IS THE DAY OF THE LORD, THE DAY OF THE SIGN OF THE SON OF MAN, THE DAY OF GOD'S WRATH, THE DAY OF DESTRUCTION, AND THE DAY OF JACOB'S TROUBLE.

IN HEAVEN, IT IS THE DAY OF THE LORD, CORONATION DAY, THE DAY OF THE JUDGMENT SEAT OF CHRIST, AND THE DAY OF THE MARRIAGE OF THE LAMB.

Zech 9:14-16 says, "THE LORD SHALL BE SEEN OVER THEM (i.e., they see the Sign of the Son of Man in the sky), and his arrow (also known as the Sword of the Lord, the asteroid Wormwood, of Rev. 8:8-11) shall go forth as the lightning: and THE LORD GOD SHALL BLOW THE TRUMPET, and shall go with whirlwinds of the south. The LORD of hosts shall defend them; and they shall devour, and subdue with sling stones; and they shall drink, and make a noise as through wine; and they shall be filled like bowls, and as the corners of the altar. And the LORD their God shall save them in that day".

THE DAY OF THE LORD WILL COME AS A DESTRUCTION FROM THE ALMIGHTY Joel 1:14,15 says, "Sanctify ye a fast (the upcoming Day of Atonement), call a solemn assembly, gather the elders and all the inhabitants of the land into the house of the LORD your God, and cry unto the LORD, Alas for the day! for the DAY OF THE LORD is at hand, and as a DESTRUCTION from the Almighty shall it come."

Joel 2:1,2 says, "Blow ye the TRUMPET in Zion, and sound an alarm in my holy mountain: let all the inhabitants of the land tremble: for the DAY OF THE LORD cometh, for it is nigh at hand; A DAY OF DARKNESS and of gloominess, a day of clouds and of thick darkness, as the morning spread upon the mountains: a great people and a strong (Gog's army, Eze. 38:18-20); THERE HATH NOT BEEN EVER THE LIKE (i.e., not at the beginning of the Tribulation), neither shall be any more after it, even to the years of many generations."

Joel 2:10,11 says, "The earth shall quake before them; the heavens shall tremble: THE SUN AND THE MOON SHALL BE DARK, and the stars shall withdraw their shining: And the LORD shall utter his voice before his army: for his camp is very great: for he is strong that executeth his word: for the DAY OF THE LORD is great and VERY TERRIBLE; and who can abide it?"

Joel 2:15,16 says, "Blow the TRUMPET in Zion, sanctify a fast (i.e., the upcoming Day of Atonement), CALL A SOLEMN ASSEMBLY (as in Heb. 12:23): Gather the people, sanctify the congregation, assemble the elders, gather the children, and those that suck the breasts: let the BRIDEGROOM (Christ) go forth of his chamber, and the BRIDE out of her closet."

Joel 2:31,32 says, "The sun shall be turned into DARKNESS, and the moon into blood (at the 6th seal), before the great and the terrible DAY OF THE LORD come (as in Rev. 6:17). And it shall come to pass, that whosoever shall call on the name of the LORD shall be delivered". This delivery will be the Pre-Wrath Rapture of Rev. 7.

Jer 30:7 says, "Alas! for THAT DAY IS GREAT, SO THAT NONE IS LIKE IT: IT IS EVEN THE TIME OF JACOB'S TROUBLE: but he shall be saved out of it."

Dan 12:1,2 says, "And at that time (when the False Prophet will come to his end, Dan. 11:45) shall Michael stand up, the great prince which standeth for the children of thy people: and there shall be A TIME OF TROUBLE, SUCH AS NEVER WAS SINCE THERE WAS A NATION even to that same time: and AT THAT TIME THY PEOPLE SHALL BE DELIVERED, every one that shall be found written in the book. And many of them that sleep in the dust of the earth shall awake"

Zeph 1:14-16 says, "The great DAY OF THE LORD is near, it is near, and hasteth greatly, even the voice of the DAY OF THE LORD: the mighty man shall cry there bitterly. That day is a DAY OF WRATH, a day of trouble and distress, a day of wasteness and desolation, a DAY OF DATKNESS and gloominess, a day of clouds and thick darkness, A DAY OF THE TRUMPET and alarm against the fenced cities, and against the high towers."

The worldwide earthquake (Eze. 38:20; Rev. 16:18,19) will cause the towers to fall. Isa 30:25 says, "And there shall be upon every high mountain, and upon every high hill, rivers and streams of waters in the day of the great slaughter, when the towers fall." The asteroid piece as large as a mountain will hit the Meditteranian Sea. The globe will be turned upside down. There will be huge tsunamis.

Jer 4:4-6 says, "Circumcise yourselves to the LORD, and take away the foreskins of your heart, ye men of Judah and inhabitants of Jerusalem: lest MY FURY come forth like fire, and burn that none can quench it, because of the evil of your doings. Declare ye in Judah, and publish in Jerusalem; and say, BLOW THE TRUMPET in the land: cry, gather together, and say, Assemble yourselves, and let us go into the defenced cities. Set up the standard toward Zion: retire, stay not: for I WILL BRING EVIL FROM THE NORTH, AND A GREAT DESTRUCTION."

Jer 4:19-21 says, "I cannot hold my peace, because thou hast heard, O my soul, the sound of the TRUMPET, the alarm of war. Destruction upon destruction is cried; for the whole land is spoiled: suddenly are my tents spoiled, and my curtains in a moment. How long shall I see the standard, and hear the sound of the TRUMPET?

Hos 5:8-10 says, "Blow ye the cornet in Gibeah, and the TRUMPET in Ramah: cry aloud at Bethaven, after thee, O Benjamin. Ephraim shall be desolate IN THE DAY OF REBUKE: among the tribes of Israel have I made known that which shall surely be. The princes of Judah were like them that remove the bound: therefore I will pour out MY WRATH upon them like water."

Jer 6:1 says, "O ye children of Benjamin, gather yourselves to flee out of the midst of Jerusalem, and BLOW THE TRUMPET in Tekoa, and set up a sign of fire in Bethhaccerem: for EVIL APPEARETH OUT OF THE NORTH, AND GREAT DESTRUCTION."

Zep 1:14-16 says, " The great DAY OF THE LORD is near, it is near, and hasteth greatly, even the voice of the DAY OF THELORD: the mighty man shall cry there bitterly. That day is A DAY OF WRATH, A DAY OF TROUBLE AND DISTRESS, A DAY OF WASTENESS AND DESOLATION, A DAY OF DARKNESS and gloominess, a day of clouds and thick darkness, A DAY OF THE TRUMPET AND ALARM."

That day, all 7 trumpet judgments hit Earth. Before the 7 angels are given the 7 trumpets, there is silence in both Heaven and Earth while the judge is seated at the Judgment Seat of Christ.

Hab 2:20 says, "The LORD is in his holy temple: let all the earth keep SILENCE before him."

Rev 8:1,2 says, "And when he had opened the seventh seal, there was SILENCE in heaven about the space of half an hour. And I saw the seven angels which stood before God; and to them were given SEVEN TRUMPETS."

TEN DAYS AFTER THE DAY OF GOD'S WRATH, THE TRUMPET OF THE JUBILEE WILL SOUND, PROBABLY SEPT. 23, 2015

Lev 25:8-11 says, "And thou shalt number seven sabbaths of years unto thee, seven times seven years; and the space of the seven sabbaths of years shall be unto thee forty and nine years. Then shalt thou CAUSE THE TRUMPET OF THE JUBILE TO SOUND ON THE TENTH DAY OF THE SEVENTH MONTH, IN THE DAY OF ATONEMENT shall ye make the trumpet sound throughout all your land. And ye shall hallow the fiftieth year, and proclaim liberty throughout all the land unto all the inhabitants thereof: it shall be a jubile unto you; and ye shall return every man unto his possession, and ye shall return every man unto his family. jubile shall that fiftieth year be unto you".

The Jubilee will probably begin NISAN 1, APRIL 9, 2016. I think that will be the first day of the Regnal Year, the Sacred Year, and the Jubilee Year.

> > Although there was no Rapture and there was no Sudden Destruction, it is still a possibility that Jan. 11, 2009, was the first day of a 2520-day Tribulation, which would culminate on Dec. 6-7, 2015, on the eve of Hanukkah, which is 75 days (Daniel 12:12) after the final day of the 70th Week of Daniel, Sept. 23, 2015, on Feast of Atonement.

There is more reason to think that the final day of the 70th Week of Daniel, the day the SEVEN TRUMPETS OF JUDGMENT SOUND, would fall on the FEAST OF TRUMPETS than the Day of Atonement, when the Jubilee Year would be announced.

ANCHOR YEAR: 5776

That final year has to be a Leap Year, because there are 7 months between the Day of God's Wrath and the Second Advent (Eze. 39:12,13). The year 5776 is a Leap Year. Also, 1967, the year of the Six-Day War, the Sign of the End of the Age, plus a 48-year generation (Mt. 1:17) is 2015--perfect. That year seems to be locked in place as our ANCHOR YEAR.

ANCHOR DATE: SEPT. 14, 2015

If Sept. 14, 2015, the Feast of Trumpets, is our ANCHOR DATE, the DAY OF GOD'S WRATH, when the SEVEN TRUMPETS OF JUDGMENT SOUND, the 2300-day shortened Tribulation of Dan. 8:13,14 will begin next Pentecost, May 29, 2009, the same date Pentecost fell on in 30 AD. That is a plus. Eccl 1:9 says, "The thing that hath been, it is that which shall be; and that which is done is that which shall be done: and there is no new thing under the sun."

The Rapture may be Nisan 21, the 7th day of Unleavened Bread, the anniversary of the ASCENSION up to Jericho after the wall fell down. There is to be a Holy Convocation on that day.

Thus, the 2520-day 70th week of Daniel 9:27, would have begun Oct. 21, 2008, the 8th day of Tabernacles.

> > I am totally convinced that the 70th Week of Daniel began on Oct. 23, 2008, the day Obama confirmed the convenant of Daniel 9:27.

Oct. 21 and 23, 2008 are not far apart. The 21st has one advantage. It is on a feast day, the 8th day of tabernacles.

What if Obama is not the Antichrist? The man that rides the white horse in Rev. 6:2 is a religious leader, a man of the cloth. That does not fit Obama. Rev 6:2 says, "behold a white horse: and he that sat on him had a BOW; and a crown was given unto him: and he went forth conquering, and to conquer." The word translated bow is toxon, simple fabric, probably woolen cloth. That man seems to be a man of the cloth, a wolf in sheep's clothing, a religious leader.

Rev. 13:1,2 says, "And I stood upon the sand of the sea, and saw a beast rise up out of the sea, having seven heads and ten horns, and upon his horns ten crowns, and UPON HIS HEADS THE NAME OF BLASPHEMY (PONTIFEX MAXIMUS). And the beast which I saw was like unto a leopard, and his feet were as the feet of a bear, and his mouth as the mouth of a lion: and the dragon gave him his power, and his seat, and great authority."

THE NAME OF BLASPHEMY, PONTIFEX MAXIMUS, IS ON ALL 7 HEADS OF THE GREAT RED DRAGON. It started with Nimrod at the Tower of Babel, continued with Nebuchadnezzar at Babylon II, was upon the heads of state of Media-Persia, Greece, and was upon all the Caesar's, heads of Imperial Rome. It will also be upon the leader of Ecclesiastical Rome when the Tribulation begins, and upon the head of the False Prophet during the last half of the Tribulation, when he will reign over Babylon III.

Today, the sheep's wool Pallium, a simple fabric strip with crosses on it, the insignia of the PONTIFEX MAXIMUS, the Supreme Pontiff, is worn by the Pope. No wonder the Eastern Orthodox Church does not recognize the Pope as their leader. It looks like the two beasts of Rev. 13 might be called Pontifex Maximus.

Rev 13:8 says, "And all that dwell upon the earth shall worship him (i.e., the Pontifex Maximus), whose names are not written in the book of life of the Lamb slain from the foundation of the world." The False Prophet will also "exerciseth all the power of the first beast" (Rev. 13:12). Therefore, it looks like the False Prophet will be a man of the cloth, a Pontifex Maximus who wears the Pallium as a sign of his supreme authority.

> > I believe progressive revelation MAY be showing us a 2300-day period within the 2520-day 70th Week of Daniel.

I agree.

> > Traditionally, the opening of the first seal in Revelation is attributed to the coming to power of the Antichrist. After doing a Greek word study of Rev. 6:1-2, I am convinced that we have just witnessed the opening of the first seal.

The Pre-Trib Rapture of Rev. 4:1 has to happen before the first seal is broken. In Rev. 5, Jesus is given the 7-sealed Title Deed to the Earth. The Bride saints are in Heaven in Rev. 5 when the 7-sealed book is given Christ. The first seal is not broken until Rev. 6.

> > It is the words "bow" and "conquer", that inspired me to do a word study on these verses. The traditional view is that the Antichrist has a bow, but no arrows. The traditional view of the "conquering" in these verses is military conquests.

> > In the Greek, this particular word for "bow" is only found this one time. I am not sure why the description is describing a verb, instead of a noun, but the meaning of "bow" in this verse, is to produce, bear, be born, bring forth, be delivered, be in travail. When I saw "be delivered", and "be in travail", I really perked up.

It isn't talking about a bow for shooting arrows or a military conquest. It is talking about fabric, cloth, to show that this is a man of the cloth, a religious leader. Re the word toxon, Strong's says, "From the base of G5088; a bow (apparently as the simplest fabric)". Look up "bow" again. You may have gotten the wrong word.

In God's Gospel in the Stars, the great king Cepheus is holding aloft a fistful of fabric to show that he represents Christ, the greatest religious leader.

> > I believe the opening of the SECOND SEAL IS THE SUDDEN DESTRUCTION/RAPTURE.

The Rapture is the "Come up hither" in Rev. 4:1. The 7-sealed book is given Christ in Rev. 5. Rev. 5:5 says, "And one of the elders saith unto me, Weep not: behold, the Lion of the tribe of Juda, the Root of David, hath prevailed to open the book, and to loose the seven seals thereof." The saints out of all nations are seen in Heaven in Rev. 5:9. Christ breaks the first seat in Rev. 6.

Sudden destruction belongs to the Day of God's Wrath. 1Th 5:3 For when they shall say, Peace and safety; then sudden destruction cometh upon them, as travail upon a woman with child; and they shall not escape." Job 21:30 says, "the wicked is reserved to THE DAY OF DESTRUCTION? they shall be brought forth to THE DAY OF WRATH." Agape

Startling news, the Earth isn't as old as they thought

Dale Morgan (31 Jan 2009)
"[World News Net] You Are Running Out Of Time!!"

REVEALING THE EARTH'S "FINAL GENERATION" http://www3.telus.net/thegoodnews/finalgeneration.htm

Do you know that recently, scientists took samples of the lava that came from Mount Saint Helens, the Volcano that erupted only twenty years ago, That they took these lava samples and subjected them to scientific dating. The results startled them, that is the scientists, these lava samples when subjected to scientific dating, came out to be thousands and thousands of years old, but in reality were only twenty years old! The world's scientists were shocked, now they are reconsidering the accuracy of scientific dating. They are now saying that this world is not as old as they once thought. Scientific dating is misleading and not a very accurate barometer of how old the earth is in reality. Shocking and eye opening - it puts a whole new perspective in place as to just how old the earth really is. It is not as old as they previously thought. [Rep: http://www.icr.org/research/sa/sa-r01.htm ]

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Thanks for the links to THE ANGELIC CONFLICT, part 1 and 2. I also read "The Rapture and Tribulation Period," all by Robert McLaughlin.
http://www.gbible.org/index.php?proc=d4d&sf=rea&did=12
http://www.gbible.org:80/index.php?proc=tre&sf=rea&hl=baptism%20doctrine&tid=218
http://www.gbible.org/index.php?proc=tvw&tid=6155

Here is the way "The Angelic Conflict" 2 ended: "REV 9:3 And out of the smoke came forth locusts upon the earth; and power was given them, as the scorpions of the earth have power....

"This passage is a manifestation of the grace of God-it is warning before judgment. Grace always precedes judgment. This is God's last appeal to the believer to get out of the cosmic system and to the unbeliever to become born again and saved. There is never a judgment that destroys even a fragment of the human race until after all those involved have an opportunity to repent. For the unbeliever, repentance simply means salvation: "Believe on the Lord Jesus, and you shall be saved." For the believer, repentance means a change of mind toward Bible doctrine and returning to the plan of God."

To me, and more to the point, repentance means to use I John 1:9. It says, "If we confess our sins, he is faithful and just to forgive us our sins, and to cleanse us from ALL unrighteousness."

A believer needs to just allow the Lord to wash his feet. This is what Jesus taught Peter. John 13:5-9 says, "After that he poureth water into a bason, and began to wash the disciples' feet, and to wipe them with the towel wherewith he was girded. Then cometh he to Simon Peter: and Peter saith unto him, Lord, dost thou wash my feet? Jesus answered and said unto him, What I do thou knowest not now; but thou shalt know hereafter. Peter saith unto him, Thou shalt never wash my feet. Jesus answered him, IF I WASH THEE NOT, THOU HAST NO PART WITH ME. Simon Peter saith unto him, Lord, not my feet only, but also my hands and my head. Jesus saith to him, HE THAT IS WASHED NEEDETH NOT SAVE TO WASH HIS FEET, BUT IS CLEAN EVERY WHIT."

I can tell that the Pre-Wrath Rapture is unknown to Robert McLaughlin. It precedes the judgment of Rev. 9.

When writing about the Rapture, McLaughlin said, "Imminency means impending, or threatening to occur immediately.The Rapture will occur when the last member of the body of Christ is saved....

"Eschatology is the theological category of last things or future things. "We have Two Eschatological dispensations. "The Tribulation, from Rapture to the Second Advent of Christ. "The Millennium, from the Second Advent, to the last Judgment. "THE REMOVAL OF ALL BELIEVERS from the earth at the Rapture of the Church, 1TH 4:13-18, announces the beginning of the Tribulation. "Because the Church and Israel are two distinct groups with whom God has a divine plan, ONE HAS TO BE TAKEN AWAY WHILE THE OTHER IS DEALT WITH. "The Tribulation period starts with the resurrection or the Rapture of the Church. It terminates with the Second Advent or the Second coming of Christ. "The Tribulation is the Doomsday Dispensation - from the Rapture of the Church to the Second Advent of Christ, approximately seven years. Rev 6-19 gives the trends of history during this period."

Yet, Rev. 6 ends with, "For the great day of his wrath is come; and who shall be able to stand?" Then in Rev. 7:9-1 4, we read, "After this (i.e., after the Day of God's Wrath had begun, and after the 144,000 Israelites are sealed) I beheld, and, lo, a great multitude, which no man could number, of all nations, and kindreds, and people, and tongues, stood before the throne (i.e., in Heaven), and before the Lamb, clothed with white robes, and palms in their hands; And cried with a loud voice, saying, Salvation to our God which sitteth upon the throne (i.e., this is Jesus' Coronation Day), and unto the Lamb. And all the angels stood round about the throne, and about the elders and the four beasts, and fell before the throne on their faces, and worshipped God, Saying, Amen: Blessing, and glory, and wisdom, and thanksgiving, and honour, and power, and might, be unto our God for ever and ever. Amen. And one of the elders (i.e., that were caught up in the first Rapture) answered, saying unto me, What are these which are arrayed in white robes? and whence came they? And I said unto him, Sir, thou knowest. And he said to me, These are they which CAME OUT OF GREAT TRIBULATION, and have washed their robes, and made them white in the blood of the Lamb."

If these came out of the Great Tribulation (the shortened last half of the Tribulation), they can't be the same saints that came out before the Tribulation began. All the first group of saints to arrive in Heaven sang the NEW SONG in Rev. 5:9. Of the second group of saints to arrive in Heaven, only the 144,000 Israelites of Rev. 7 can sing the NEW SONG. The rest of the great multitude of Tribulation saints cannot sing the NEW SONG.

Rev. 14:2-5 says, "I heard a voice from heaven (i.e., the 2nd 'Come up hither'), as the voice of many waters, and as the voice of a great thunder (i.e., the "last trump' of I Cor. 15:51,52): and I heard the voice of harpers harping with their harps: And they sung as it were a NEW SONG before the throne, and before the four beasts, and the elders: and NO MAN COULD LEARN THAT SONG BUT THE HUNDRED AND FORTY AND FOUR THOUSAND, WHICH WERE REDEEMED FROM THE EARTH. These are they which were not defiled with women; for THEY ARE VIRGINS. These are they which follow the Lamb whithersoever he goeth. THESE WERE REDEEMED FROM AMONG MEN, being the firstfruits unto God and to the Lamb. And in their mouth was found no guile: for THEY ARE WITHOUT FAULT BEFORE THE THRONE OF GOD."

On the day of the "general assembly" in Heaven (Heb. 12:23) on the Feast of Trujmpets, the Day of God's Wrath, two groups of saints are to be gathered. The Pre-Trib-Rapture saints are to be gathered from one end of Heaven to the other. The Pre-Wrath-Rapture saints are to be gathered from one end of the Earth to the other.

Mt 24:31 says, "And he shall send his angels with a great sound of a trumpet, and they shall gather together his elect from the four winds, from one end of HEAVEN to the other. This group was caught up to Heaven at the first trumpet of God (I Thess. 4:16,17).

Mark 13:27 says, "And then shall he send his angels, and shall gather together his elect from the four winds, from the uttermost part of the EARTH to the uttermost part of HEAVEN."

When the elect are all gathered to the General (festal) Assembly) in Heaven on the Feast of Trumpets, they will all become immortal at the "last trump" (I Cor. 15:51,52).

When there are no believers left on Earth, God's wrath will fall on the unbelievers. Why hasen't Robert McLaughlin discerned this? Maybe because he believes the following.

He said, "The removal of ALL believers from the earth at the Rapture of the Church, 1TH 4:13-18, announces the beginning of the Tribulation.

"Because the Church and Israel are two distinct groups with whom God has a divine plan, ONE HAS TO BE TAKEN AWAY WHILE THE OTHER IS DEALT WITH."

To me, that is like painting one's self into a corner. It Is too restrictive. I think the parable of the 10 virgins in Mt. 25, shows that some believers are left behind at the first Rapture. Those without enough oil of the Holy Spirit will be left behind, as will the unrepentent Laodicean church. The Lord warned them.

Rev 3:16-19 says, "I know thy works, that thou art neither cold nor hot: I would thou wert cold or hot. So then because thou art lukewarm, and neither cold nor hot, I WILL SPUE THEE OUT OF MY MOUTH. Because thou sayest, I am rich, and increased with goods, and have need of nothing; and knowest not that thou art wretched, and miserable, and poor, and blind, and naked: I counsel thee to buy of me gold tried in the fire, that thou mayest be rich; and white raiment, that thou mayest be clothed, and that the shame of thy nakedness do not appear; and anoint thine eyes with eyesalve, that thou mayest see. As many as I love, I rebuke and chasten: be zealous therefore, and repent."

It looks like these spued-out ones will be in the group that cannot sing the NEW SONG after the Pre-Wrath Rapture.

It seems that Mc Laughlin thinks the Lord will return on the Day of God's Wrath. I think there will be 7 months between the Day of God's Wrath and Christ's return at the Second Advent. In Eze. 38:18-20, we see that Gog's army attacks Israel on the Day of God's Wrath. In Eze. 39, we see that only 1/6th of his army is left after that. The dead lay around the world, unburied except in Israel. There they bury the dead 7 months to prepare for the Second Advent. Eze. 39:12,13 says, "And seven months shall the house of Israel be burying of them, that they may cleanse the land. Yea, all the people of the land shall bury them; and it shall be to them a renown the day that I shall be glorified, saith the Lord GOD."

The Jubilee Year is announced on the Day of Atonement and starts on the following Nisan 1. For there to be 7 months instead of 6 between the two, it must be a Jewish Leap Year with the 13th month. The year 5776 (2015/2016) will be a Leap Year. It looks like the Day of God's Wrath will be Tishri 1, 5776 (Sept. 14, 2015) the Feast of Trumpets. I think the Second Advent will be on Nisan 1 seven months later (April 9, 2016). That will be the first day of the Regnal Year, the first day of the Sacred Year, and the first day of the Jubilee Year, a good day for the Second Advent.

Counting back 2300 days (Dan. 8:13,14) from the Day of God's Wrath, Tishri 1 (Sept. 14, 2015), the Shortened Tribulation would start next Pentecost, May 29, 2009. I think the first Rapture will happen between now and then, maybe on the last day of Unleavened Bread, April 15, 2009. Love

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I had meant to do this a few days ago but never got round to it.

HUDSON RIVER - A=1 B=2...Z=26 = 153.
Remarkable. Blessings

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Saved were 153 passengers, 3 attendants, the pilot and co-pilot. That is amazing, but the fact that only one engine fell off, making the other wing stay high in the water helped too. I read that some of the people only got wet up to their knees. It looks like the Lord helped in that situation. The pilot made a text-book landing in the water, tail first, nose up. He also landed near boats that could come to the rescue quickly. With both engines out, it couldn't have gone much better. If there was any fire left in the engine compartments, the water quickly put that out.

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