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Beautiful Halo Around the Moon

http://apod.nasa.gov/apod/ap090213.html

Incoming e-mail, Re: GRB 080916C, occurred at 7:13 p.m. EDT on Sept. 15

Saturday, February 21, 2009 3:49 PM

Do you see any connection to Holiday's and this date and time? Here's more detail from Fermi Telescope

The Gamma-ray burst seen by the Fermi Space Telescope is one for the record books. The blast had the greatest total energy, the fastest motions and the highest-energy initial emissions ever seen.

"We were waiting for this one," said Peter Michelson, the principal investigator on Fermi's Large Area Telescope at Stanford University. "Burst emissions at these energies are still poorly understood, and Fermi is giving us the tools to understand them."

Gamma-ray bursts are the universe's most luminous explosions. Astronomers believe most occur when exotic massive stars run out of nuclear fuel. As a star's core collapses into a black hole, jets of material -- powered by processes not yet fully understood -- blast outward at nearly the speed of light. The jets bore all the way through the collapsing star and continue into space, where they interact with gas previously shed by the star and generate bright afterglows that fade with time.

This explosion, designated GRB 080916C, occurred at 7:13 p.m. EDT on Sept. 15, in the constellation Carina. Fermi's other instrument, the Gamma-ray Burst Monitor, simultaneously recorded the event. Together, the two instruments provide a view of the blast's initial, or prompt, gamma-ray emission from energies between 3,000 to more than 5 billion times that of visible light.

Nearly 32 hours after the blast, Jochen Greiner of the Max Planck Institute for Extraterrestrial Physics in Garching, Germany, led a group that searched for the explosion's fading afterglow. The team simultaneously captured the field in seven wavelengths using the Gamma-Ray Burst Optical/Near-Infrared Detector, or GROND, on the 2.2-meter telescope at the European Southern Observatory in La Silla, Chile. In certain colors, the brightness of a distant object shows a characteristic drop-off caused by intervening gas clouds. The farther away the object is, the redder the wavelength where this fade-out occurs. This gives astronomers a quick estimate of the object's distance. The team's follow-up observations established that the explosion took place 12.2 billion light-years away.

"Already, this was an exciting burst," said Julie McEnery, a Fermi deputy project scientist at NASA's Goddard Space Flight Center in Greenbelt, Md. "But with the GROND team's distance, it went from exciting to extraordinary."

With the distance in hand, Fermi team members showed that the blast exceeded the power of approximately 9,000 ordinary supernovae, if the energy was emitted equally in all directions. This is a standard way for astronomers to compare events even though gamma-ray bursts emit most of their energy in tight jets.

Coupled with the Fermi measurements, the distance also helps astronomers determine the slowest speeds possible for material emitting the prompt gamma rays. Within the jet of this burst, gas bullets must have moved at 99.9999 percent the speed of light. This burst's tremendous power and speed make it the most extreme recorded to date.

One curious aspect of the burst is a five-second delay separating the highest-energy emissions from the lowest. Such a time lag has been seen clearly in only one earlier burst.

"It may mean that the highest-energy emissions are coming from different parts of the jet or created through a different mechanism," Michelson said.

The team's results appear today in the online edition of the journal Science.

NASA's Fermi Gamma-ray Space Telescope is an astrophysics and particle physics partnership mission, developed in collaboration with the U.S. Department of Energy and important contributions from academic institutions and partners in France, Germany, Italy, Japan, Sweden, and the United States.

Francis Reddy, NASA's Goddard Space Flight Center

My reply

Many thanks. I wanted time to see if I could find out what day in September this happened. You did it before I could even try. Do you have a URL for this? Agape

Post on Five Doves site: Re: Richard Cumming (19 Feb 2009) "FALSE PROPHET" Pope Ratzinger flashes Satan's Sign"

Hello Doves

My False Prophet candidate shows his allegiance in this attachment

My reply

I think a Pope will be the first beast of Rev. 13. Rev. 6:2 says that he is given a BOW. The Greek word translated bow is toxon, meaning simple fabric. Therefore, the man riding a white horse is a man of the cloth, a religious leader. He bears the name of blasphemy, Pontifex Maximus.

The first of the 7 kings to be called Pontifex Maximus was Nimrod at the Tower of Babel. That was Babylon I. Nebuchadnezzar, at Babylon II, was also called Pontifex Maximus, as all the 7 kings of Rev. 17:10 are called. I found coins with that title for each of the Caesars of Imperial Rome. Now that title is used for the head of Ecclesiastical Rome. I think it will also be used by the Satan-possessed False Prophet, head of Babylon III.

Of the False Prophet, Rev 13:12 says, "And he exerciseth all the POWER of the first beast before him, and causeth the earth and them which dwell therein to worship the first beast, whose deadly wound was healed." Therefore, the False Prophet may be acting as the Pope, since the first beast is incapacitated because of his wound. Mt 7:15 says, "Beware of false prophets, which come to you in sheep's clothing, but inwardly they are ravening wolves." The Pallium, symbol of Papal authority, is a sheep's wool fabric band with red or black crosses on it. The chances are good that the False Prophet will wear the Pallium.

I put your picture of the Pope on my Home Page. I would love to know more about it.

Where did you get it? Is it on the Internet somewhere? Did you photograph it yourself, or know who did? Is there another URL I could post that people could click on and find it elsewhere on the worldwide web?

Pope Ratzinger is scheduled to visit Jordan on May 10. Then on May 11, he is to fly to Tel Aviv, Israel. He is to visit Gaza, give a Mass at Bethlehem and later at Nazareth. Then he is to visit the Basilica of the Holy Sepulchre in Jerusalem. On the 15th, he is scheduled to return to Rome.

If the Rapture takes place on the LAST DAY of Unleavened Bread, April 15, his trip may take on a new urgency.

These are interesting times. In John 6:39, "Jesus said, "And this is the Father's will which hath sent me, that of all which he hath given me I should lose nothing, but should raise it up again at the LAST DAY.'" John 7:37 says, "In the LAST DAY, THAT GREAT DAY OF THE FEAST, Jesus stood and cried, saying, If any man thirst, let him come unto me, and drink."

That last day of Unleavened Bread is when Jericho fell. Jos. 6:5 says, "when they make a long blast with the ram's horn, and when ye hear the sound of the TRUMPET, all the people shall shout with a great shout; and the wall of the city shall fall down flat, AND THE PEOPLE SHALL ASCEND UP EVERY MAN STRAIGHT BEFORE HIM." Doesn't that sound like a good type of the Rapture? Agape

Incoming e-mail, Re: Rapture Soon FAQ

http://www.rapture-soon.net/FAQ/FAQ_Jews_Believe.html
What is the Rapture?
When will the Rapture take place?
Biblical Proof of a Pretribulation Rapture
Frequently Asked Questions
Q - What do the Jewish people believe about the end times?

A - Below is what the Jewish people believe and this information is from my friend Rabbi Roy S. Neuberger and used with his permission: On April 8, 2009, we will recite Birkas ha Chama, the Blessing on the Sun. Our rabbis have instituted this blessing to be said every twenty eight years when the sun returns to the exact position it occupied relative to the earth at the moment of original Creation.

That's not all. Occasionally, a few times throughout history, Birkas ha Chama has fallen on the 14th of Nissan, the day before Passover. One of those times was directly before Yetzias Mitzraim, the Exodus from Egypt.

Another time was directly before the original miracle of Purim. The next time will be ... April 2009!

According to the Kadosh Elyon, the Ostrovster Admor.

1 - This will be the very last time in history that Birkas ha Chama can fall on the day before Passover and that, "shortly afterwards, the Redemption must come." The cosmic event which preceded the two greatest Salvations in the history of the world will take place in 2009!

2 - Not even the mightiest of men could stop the collapse of the mighty fortress of Egypt, and no one can stop this process. When G-d desires to liberate His children, no man or nation can stand in the way. Whoever believes that the Moslem or Western nations are strong is incorrect. They are twigs which will soon blow away in the mighty wind that G-d is preparing. "For behold, the kings assembled, they came together. They saw and they were astounded. They were confounded and hastily fled. Trembling gripped them there, convulsions like a woman in birth travail. With an east wind you smashed the ships of Tarshish."

3 - When the Blessing on the Sun occurs on the 14th of Nissan, not only does the sun return to its original position relative to the earth, but, in addition, the moon is full. Both Great Lights are in the position they occupied at the very moment of their Creation!

4 - Every month we say the following prayer: "May it be Your will, my G-d and the G-d of my forefathers, to fill the flaw of the moon that there be no diminution in it. May the light of the moon be like the light of the sun and like the light of the seven days of creation, as it was before it was diminished, as it is said, 'The two great luminaries.' And may there be fulfilled upon us the verse that is written: They shall seek G-d , their G-d and David, their king. Amen."

5 - WHEN THE BLESSING OF THE SUN OCCURS ON THE 14TH OF NISSAN, THE UNIVERSE IS IN EXACTLY THE SAME ALIGNMENT AS AT THE MOMENT WHEN G-D CREATED THIS WORLD. THEN THE EARTH WAS NEW AND PURE, UNTOUCHED BY CORRUPTION, A WORLD OF PERFECT SANCTITY, PERFECT LAW, PERFECT ALIGNMENT BETWEEN MAN AND HIS CREATOR. THIS WAS THE MOMENT OF ORIGINAL REDEMPTION, WHEN G-D CREATED PERFECT ORDER OUT OF CHAOS!

Nations of the world, who dare to torture G-d 's Children and challenge our eternal right to dwell in our Holy Land in peace, beware! The fate of Egypt will be yours!

Soon we will see the invincible power and the salvations of G-d. The story of Egypt is the story of our generation. This year, at our Seder Table, when we recite the words "Next year (2009) in Yerushalayim," we should know that the Ultimate Geula and Yeshua are near.

May we all soon see that day of perfection, purity and eternal simcha. May G-d soon wipe away every tear. May He have mercy on us all and allow us to rejoice soon, in our lifetimes, at the rebuilt Temple and to see Moshiach ben Dovid our King reigning in Yerushalayim Ir ha Kodesh!

By: Rabbi Roy S. Neuberger
His Web Site: To Sinai http://www.tosinai.com

God bless you all.
Rev. JR Seabolt

My reply

Re: Rapture Soon FAQ. Thanks so much. Ever since I learned to read, I have studied. I wonder, with all that, how is it that I never ran across the "Blessing on the Sun"? It is fantastic news, and particularly appropriate this year.

Rabbi Roy S. Neuberger said,
"On April 8, 2009, we will recite Birkas ha Chama, the Blessing on the Sun. Our rabbis have instituted this blessing to be said every twenty eight years when the sun returns to the exact position it occupied relative to the earth at the moment of original Creation.

"That's not all. Occasionally, a few times throughout history, Birkas ha Chama has fallen on the 14th of Nissan, the day before Passover. One of those times was directly before Yetzias Mitzraim, the Exodus from Egypt.

"Another time was directly before the original miracle of Purim. The next time will be ... April 2009!

"According to the Kadosh Elyon, the Ostrovster Admor.

'1 - This will be the very LAST TIME IN HISTORY that Birkas ha Chama can fall on the day before Passover and that, "SHORTLY AFTERWARDS, THE REDEMPTION MUST COME." The cosmic event which preceded the two greatest Salvations in the history of the world will take place in 2009!"...

3 - When the Blessing on the Sun occurs on the 14th of Nissan, not only does the sun return to its original position relative to the earth, but, in addition, the moon is full. Both Great Lights are in the position they occupied at the very moment of their Creation!

Nisan 14 is Passover. Lev. 23:5-8 says, "In the fourteenth day of the first month at even (i.e., as the 14th starts at 6 PM on Nisan 13) is the LORD'S passover (the death angel passed over them 6 hours later, at midnight). And on the fifteenth day of the same month is the feast of unleavened bread unto the LORD: seven days ye must eat unleavened bread. In the first day ye shall have an holy convocation: ye shall do no servile work therein. But ye shall offer an offering made by fire unto the LORD seven days: in the seventh day is an holy convocation: ye shall do no servile work therein."

This sounds like a sign of the Rapture, which I think will be on the 7th day of Unleavened Bread, Nisan 21, 5769, Wednesday, April 15, 2009. That will be "shortly" after the "Blessing on the Sun...on the 14th of Nissan."

It is interesting that this year will be the last time in history that the Sun and Moon will lineup like this on Passover. Agape

Incoming e-mail, Re: Still going over the numbers

I reread Mat 24 and found this important clue, Great Tribulation starts in the winter on a Sabbath.

"Mat 24:20 And pray ye that your flight be not in the winter, neither on a sabbath:
Mat 24:21 for then shall be great tribulation, such as hath not been from the beginning of the world until now, no, nor ever shall be."

Mid-Trib could be 3/17/2012 this is 1290 days before 9/28/2015 (Tabernacles) and this day is the last Saturday of winter, 7 days before Nisan 1 2012.

Is your projected date for Mid-Trib in the Winter or on a Saturday? God Bless and Thanks for the research. Maranatha

My reply

How about a man of the cloth flashing Satan's sign while wearing a red cape?
http://www.fivedoves.com/letters/feb2009/richardc219-2.htm

"On May 10, he will celebrate Mass for the Catholic community of Jordan in the stadium of Amman, followed by a visit to the site of Jesus's baptism on the river Jordan. On May 11, the Pontiff will fly to Tel Aviv from Amman." http://www.catholicpilgrimoffice.com/?gclid=CNyNka6w7JgCFRwDagodkRV41A

Wow! I guess I can remember those dates. Ed's mother's birthday was May 10, and her mother's was May 11. The Tribulation approaches (probably Pentecost, May 29, our daughter's birthday), and that makes our flight that much closer.

I'm hoping for April 15, Nisan 21, the 7th day of Unleavened Bread, and the day they ascended straight up at Jericho after making 7 rings around it. I think those 7 rings suggest Saturn and it's 7 rings. In Eze. 1:26-28, the sapphire was Jesus' throne, and there were bright rings around it. Sapphire is Jesus' birthstone, and as September's birthstone, it means Heaven. The word sapphire means dear to the planet Saturn, from the Sanskrit Sani, Saturn, and priya, dear.

Zech. 3:9,10 (LXX) says, "behold, I bring forth my servant The Branch. For as for the stone which I have set before the face of Jesus, on the one stone are seven eyes" (orbs, rings).

Is the Pope going forth in May to conquer? Rev. 6:2 says, "And I saw, and behold a white horse: and he that sat on him had a bow (toxon, plain fabric, i.e., he's a man of the cloth, a religious leader); and a crown was given unto him: and he went forth conquering, and to conquer."

> > "Mat 24:20 And pray ye that your flight be not in the winter, neither on a sabbath:
> > Mat 24:21 for then shall be great tribulation, such as hath not been from the beginning of the world until now, no, nor ever shall be."
> > Is your projected date for Mid-Trib in the Winter or on a Saturday?

No, but if their prayers are answered, their flight at the beginning of the Great Tribulation would not be in the winter or on a Sabbath.

It looks like the end of the shortened Great Tribulation will be on the Feast of Trumpets, Monday, Sept. 14, 2015. From May 29, 2009 (Pentecost) to Sept. 14, 2015 (Feast of Trumpets) by inclusive reckoning is 2300 days (Dan. 8:13,14). I think the 7 trumpet judgments will hit Earth on that Feast of Trumpets.

It looks like the Rapture will be at the time of barley harvest. In Ruth 3:15, Ruth, a type of the Gentile Bride, married Boaz during barley harvest. "Also he said, Bring the vail that thou hast upon thee, and hold it. And when she held it, he measured six measures of BARLEY, and laid it on her: and she went into the city," a type of New Jerusalem. Thus, the Pre-Trib Rapture could be Nisan 21, the last day of Unleavened Bread. That would be after Firstfruits, when barley harvest begins, and before Pentecost, when the wheat harvest begins. Therefore, the Tribulation could begin on Pentecost and end 2300 days later, on Trumpets.

According to my scenario, Mid-Trib would be the beginning of Friday, Nov. 9, 2012. That day is neither winter nor the Sabbath. It could be the day of a rainstorm, though.

The word translated "winter" in Mt. 24:20 is cheimon, meaning a storm (as pouring rain); by implication the rainy season, that is, winter: - tempest, foul weather, winter. The Israelites that believe in Christ would not want to be forced to flee to Petra when a rainstorm was predicted.

In Israel, the rainy season starts on Trumpets. If this "cheimon" indicates a rainstorm, it would make sense. Petra has flash floods in a rainstorm. In 1963, 20 people drowned in 10 ft. of water in the siq. The steps of the Treasury are buried by 18 ft. of sand and rock deposited by flash floods.

Rev 12:14-17 is also about the Great Tribulation. It says, "And to the woman were given two wings of a great eagle, that she might fly into the wilderness, into her place, where she is nourished for a time, and times, and half a time (3.5 years), from the face of the serpent. And the serpent cast out of his mouth WATER AS A FLOOD after the woman, that he might cause her to be carried away of the flood. And the earth helped the woman, and the earth opened her mouth, and swallowed up the flood which the dragon cast out of his mouth. And the dragon was wroth with the woman, and went to make war with the remnant of her seed, which keep the commandments of God, and have the testimony of Jesus Christ."

> > Mid-Trib could be 3/17/2012 this is 1290 days before 9/28/2015 (Tabernacles) and this day is the last Saturday of winter, 7 days before Nisan 1 2012.

Since the Great Tribulation is to be shortened, I think it will be less than 1260 days. During the first half, Moses and Elijah prophesy 1260 days. According to Dan. 8:13,14, the whole Tribulation will be 2300 days. 2300 - 1260 = 1040 days for the Great Tribulation.

I think the last year of the Tribulation will be a leap year with the 13th month. That is why before shortening, there could be 1290 days instead of 1260. That is why there are 7 months (Eze. 39:12,13) between the end of the Gog and Magog War (Eze. 38:18-20) on Tishri 1 and the Second Advent of Christ on the following Nisan 1. A normal year would only have 6 months between Tishri 1 and Nisan 1. God bless you. Agape

The rest of the Pope's May 10 - 15 itinerary

On Tuesday, May 12, Papa Ratzinger will meet the Grand Mufti of Jerusalem, visit the Wailing Wall and the Cenacle [site of the Last Supper], and meet with the two Chief Rabbis of Israel. An open-air Mass will be held in the Josaphat Valley, right below the Mount of Olives. May 13 will be a day dedicated to the Palestinians. Benedict XVI will arrive by helicopter on Palestine territory where he will meet with President Abu Mazen, and then say Mass at Manger Square in Bethlehem, as John Paul II did. In the afternoon, he will visit a Palestinian refugee camp. The penultimate day of the visit, Thursday, May 14, will be spent in Galilee. The Pope will arrive in Nazareth by helicopter and say Mass at Precipice Mount(?).

On the morning of May 15, a few hours before he returns to Rome, the Pope will visit the Basilica of the Holy Sepulchre.

Re: Allenby taking Jerusalem

http://www.endofage.com/jubilee.html

Quoting from "The Times of the Gentiles", by Joseph Hubbard, Tisdale, Canada, Feb 15 1919, page 36:

In 1898 A.D., when the Kaiser of Germany visited the holy land, a beautiful highway was specially built from Joppa to Jerusalem, for him to ride over in the state carriages of Germany, which had been brought by steamer for this occasion. When he, and his State Officers, and Ladies of State were entering the holy city, the young Turks were greatly excited exclaiming: "Here comes the deliverer of Palestine and the Jews." An aged Turk hearing their exclamations of terror remarked: "This is not the man." Then, he repeated an old, old Moslem prophecy; that the deliverer of Jerusalem and the Jews, would enter the city on foot, and his name would be a combination of the name of God, and of the prophet. Gen. Allanby was regarded by Moslems as such a combination of the name of their God and their prophet. The Arabic name for God is Alla, represented by the first syllable of the General's name. The Arabic for prophet is Nebi, this is the second syllable. Vast numbers of Moslems have been familiar for generations with this prophecy, and are now firmly convinced that it has been fulfilled.

Project Created to Restore Ancient Babylon

By Dave Itzkoff, Jan 7, 09
http://74.125.95.132/search?q=cache:wieo1wHZLgMJ:artsbeat.blogs.nytimes.com/2009/01/07/project-created-to-restore-ancient-babylon/+Rebuilding+Babylon+Iraq&hl=en&ct=clnk&cd=8&gl=us

...After years of neglect, misuse and haphazard reconstruction of the ancient city of Babylon, a master plan is being developed for the restoration of the Mesopotamian site, in present-day Iraq. The project, called “The Future of Babylon,” was announced in a news release by the World Monuments Fund, which will collaborate with Iraq’s State Board of Antiquities and Heritage....

The “Future of Babylon” project, financed by a $700,000 grant from the State Department, will map the city’s archeological sites, develop conservation plans and pursue possibilities for tourism and education.

Unesco is Rebuilding Babylon

http://www.jesuslives.co.za/2008/07/11/unesco-is-rebuilding-babylon/

Today the UN Educational, Scientific and Cultural Organization is pumping millions of dollars into Babylon and several other historical sites in Iraq. With the help of private donors the UN is hoping to turn Babylon in to a thriving center of tourism and commerce. If everything goes according to plan, Babylon will be a cultural center complete with shopping malls, hotels, and maybe even a theme park.

A Destiny Unfulfilled

Babylon was founded by the first world dictator, Nimrod, and it may well be destined to be the capital of the final world dictator, commonly called the Antichrist....
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Babylon's future written in its ruins
By Khalid al-Ansary, Feb 10, 2009
http://www.reuters.com/article/worldNews/idUSTRE51A0MM20090211?feedType=RSS&feedName=worldNews

...Now officials hope Babylon can be revived and made ready for a rich future of tourism, with help from experts at the World Monuments Fund (WMF) and the U.S. embassy.

"The Future of Babylon" project LAUNCHED LAST MONTH (January, 2009) seeks to "map the current conditions of Babylon and develop a master plan for its conservation, study and tourism," the WMF says....

Babylon, and places such as the southern marshes believed to be the biblical Garden of Eden, could eventually be major attractions....

The U.S. embassy in Baghdad is contributing $700,000 toward the site's restoration. ---
ArtsBeat
http://artsbeat.blogs.nytimes.com/2008/10/20/us-iraq-to-spend-14-million-to-preserve-iraqi-heritage/
U.S., Iraq to Spend $14 Million to Preserve Iraqi Heritage

American and Iraqi officials began a two-year $14 million plan on Monday to help preserve Iraq’s cultural heritage. The State Department grant will create a conservation and historic preservation institute in Erbil, help refurbish the Iraqi National Museum and train museum employees....

The United States Embassy will provide $13 million to the International Relief and Development Fund and the State Department’s bureau of educational and cultural affairs will provide an additional $1 million while leading efforts to raise more money through private donations.
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UNESCO is Rebuilding Babylon
http://www.khouse.org/enews_article/2007/1193/

...However despite Saddam's removal from power and subsequent execution, the work to rebuild Babylon has continued.

...Today the UN Educational, Scientific and Cultural Organization is pumping millions of dollars into Babylon and several other historical sites in Iraq. With the help of private donors the UN is hoping to turn Babylon in to a thriving center of tourism and commerce. If everything goes according to plan, Babylon will be a cultural center complete with shopping malls, hotels, and maybe even a theme park....

The prophets Isaiah and Jeremiah each spend two chapters detailing the catastrophic destruction that awaits this fabled city. The result of this final devastation will leave it uninhabitable; even the building materials will never be reused. This clearly has never happened in its history.

Clearly Babylon, as a literal city on banks of the Euphrates, has a climactic destiny yet ahead of it. The destruction described in both the Old and New Testaments has never happened, and if we take the Bible seriously then Babylon is destined to rise again to power to receive the judgment that Isaiah, Jeremiah, and the Apostle John have described.

My comments

Nimrod was building the Tower of Babel. His Babylon I was the first empire of seven to come."

The scene of Rev. 17 is when the Pre-Trib Rapture has just taken place. The Bride of Christ is already with Christ in Heaven. Verses 10-14 say, "And there are seven kings (i.e., of 7 kingdoms): five (Babel, Babylon II, Media-Persis, Greece and Imperial Rome) are fallen, and one is (Ecclesiastical Rome, led by a Pope who was not raptured), and the other (Babylon III) is NOT YET COME; and when he (the ruler of Babylon III, the False Prophet) cometh, he must continue a short space (1040 days, the Great Tribulation). And the beast that was, and is not (Satan), even he is the eighth, and is of the seven (i.e., controls them), and goeth into perdition (the Satan-possessed False Prophet). And the ten horns which thou sawest are ten kings, which have received NO KINGDOM AS YET; but receive power as kings one hour with the beast (the False Prophet). These have one mind, and shall give their power and strength unto the beast. These shall make war with the Lamb, and the Lamb shall overcome them: for he is Lord of lords, and King of kings: and they (the saints, the Bride that was caught up in the Pre-Trib Rapture) that ARE WITH HIM (Jesus) ARE CALLED, AND CHOSEN, AND FAITHFUL."

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