Pro and Con 1474

Posted 3-5-09

Oldest Hebrew inscription ever found

"In the Valley of Elah"
by Dorothy D. Resig

http://www.bib-arch.org/e-features/valley-of-elah.asp#

This ostracon, excavated in a building near the city gate, bears five lines of text totaling 50 letters. The inscription also dates to the early tenth century and is written in proto-Canaanite script—the longest inscription of its kind—but the language is Hebrew. According to Garfinkel, the words “don’t do,” “king,” “judge” and “servant” are all legible. Although a full translation has yet to be completed, it is already THE EARLIEST HEBREW INSCRIPTION EVER FOUND, predating the rest by 100 years or more.

My email reply to a phone call

Thanks for telling me there was an interesting article on the Five Doves site.

Dale Morgan (URL) [World News Net] The Emerging Sunspot Cycle 24 and a Weakening Magnetic Field

WHEN DID THE MORNING STARS SING TOGETHER?

Job 38:4-11 says, "Where wast thou WHEN I LAID THE FOUNDATIONS OF THE EARTH? declare, if thou hast understanding. Who hath laid the measures thereof, if thou knowest? or who hath stretched the line upon it? Whereupon are the foundations thereof fastened? or who laid the corner stone thereof; WHEN THE MORNING STARS (i.e., planets) SANG TOGETHER, and all the sons of God shouted for joy? Or who shut up the sea with doors, when it brake forth, as if it had issued out of the womb? When I made the cloud the garment thereof, and thick darkness a swaddlingband for it, And brake up for it my decreed place (i.e., the Pacific Basin, by blasting off the material that made our Moon), and set bars and doors, And said, Hitherto shalt thou come, but no further: and here shall thy proud waves be stayed?"

"The Emerging Sunspot Cycle 24 and a Weakening Magnetic Field," by Alex Ansary, Feb. 25, 2009, says, "New Studies Indicate how SOUNDS FROM THE SUN AFFECT EARTHQUAKES ON EARTH.

"Scientists from the European Space Agency's Ulysses mission have proven that SOUNDS GENERATED DEEP INSIDE THE SUN CAUSE THE EARTH TO SHAKE AND VIBRATE IN SYMPATHY. They have found that EARTH'S MAGNETIC FIELD, ATMOSPHERE AND TERRESTRIAL SYSTEMS, ALL TAKE PART IN THIS COSMIC SING-ALONG.

"Although these tones are all around us, it would not be possible for us to hear them, even if we listened very closely. THEIR PITCH IS TOO LOW FOR THE HUMAN EAR, typically 100-5000 microHertz (1 microHertz corresponds to 1 vibration every 278 hours).

"The scientists say data from the Ulysses project provided an important clue as to how these sounds generated deep inside the Sun reach the Earth. Measurements made by the Ulysses deep space probe, which was launched in 1990 to orbit the sun, have shown that the pressure created inside the heliosphere by the solar wind has been decreasing.

"Here's How it Works

"The Researchers believe that THE KEY TO THE PROBLEM IS MAGNETISM. They suggests that SPECIFIC TONES DESCRIBED AS G-MODE VIBRATIONS are picked up by the magnetic field at the Sun’s surface. Part of this magnetic field is then carried away from Sun into interplanetary space by solar wind. The magnetic field of the solar wind in turn INTERACTS WITH THE EARTH'S MAGNETIC FIELD AND CAUSES IT TO VIBRATE IN SYMPATHY, retaining the characteristic g-mode signals.

"The motions of the geomagnetic field then couple into the solid Earth to produce small, but easily detectable, responses as EARTH, with many of its technological systems, MOVES TO THE RHYTHM OF THE SUN.

"The Solar System

"The atmospheres of five of the planets and the Earth's moon are changing. The earth's atmosphere in the upper levels is forming HO gas that didn't exist in the quantity that it does now. The Scientists from the Russian National Academy of Science say it's not related to global warming, CFCs or fluorocarbon emissions. They claim the atmospheres of Jupiter, Uranus and Neptune are also...changing. The Martian atmosphere is getting sizably thicker than it was before.

"The Mars Observer probe in 1997 lost one of its mirrors, which caused it to crash. This happened because the atmosphere was about twice as dense as NASA had calculated.

"THE BRIGHTNESS AND MAGNETIC FIELD OF THE PLANETS IS CHANGING

"Venus is showing marked increases in its overall brightness. Jupiter's energetic charge has risen so high that there is actually a visible tube of ionizing radiation that's formed between the surface of Jupiter and its moon Io. You can actually see the luminous energy tube in photographs that have been taken recently.

"Uranus and Neptune also are becoming brighter. The magnetic fields of Jupiter, Uranus, and Neptune are changing. Jupiter's magnetic field has more than doubled and Neptune's magnetic field is increasing. All three of these planets are becoming brighter, and their atmospheric qualities, say the Russians, are changing — but they do not explain what is meant by this.

"The Russians report that Uranus and Neptune appear to have had recent pole shifts."

All of this is truly interesting. It makes more sense to me than the short-sighted view that man has caused global warming. Could man cause global warming on other planets? No. However, on Earth, instead of 10 feet of ice, there is water at the North Pole. The world's glaciers are melting. Could we do something that would cause anything as drastic as this? Probably not, since other planets are involved, but the Sun could. It regulates the climate of all the planets.

Here is some more information on "Io's Atmosphere and the Io Plasma Torus" (http://www.planetaryexploration.net/jupiter/io/io_plasma_torus.html)

"Within Jupiter's magnetosphere, there is a significant amount of hot, ionized gas, or plasma. This plasma moves along with Jupiter's rotating magnetic field, sweeping charged particles off the surfaces of its moons as it passes them. Io has a particularly significant impact on Jupiter's magnetosphere. Io's volcanoes continually expel an enormous amount of particles into space, and these are swept up by Jupiter's magnetic field at a rate of 1,000 kg/sec. This material becomes ionized in the magnetic field and forms a doughnut-shaped track around Io's orbit called the Io Plasma Torus....

"As Io circles around Jupiter and through the plasma torus, an enormous electrical current flows between them. Approximately 2 trillion watts of power is generated. The current follows the magnetic field lines to Jupiter's surface where it creates lightning in the upper atmosphere....the structure and appearance of Jupiter's aurora changes at (as) it rotates." Agape

COULD THE RAPTURE BE ON THE DATE THAT ISRAEL CROSSED THE RED SEA DRY SHOD?

By Marilyn Agee

What a type that would be. It looks like the Israelites may have crossed the Red Sea on Nisan 21. The Rapture could be on Nisan 21, 5769 (April 15, 2009).

Lev 23:2 (KJV) says, "Speak unto the children of Israel, and say unto them, Concerning the feasts of the LORD, which ye shall proclaim to be holy convocations, even these are my feasts." The word "convocations" is miqra in Hebrew, a rehearsal, SOMETHING CALLED OUT, an assembly. That can fit the Rapture.

Jesus fulfilled the feasts of Passover (Friday, Nisan 14), Unleavened Bread (Saturday, Nisan 15) and Firstfruits (Sunday, Nisan 16) in 30 AD, but why are there seven days of Unleavened Bread, with a Holy Convocation on the seventh day, Nisan 21? WHAT WILL BE CALLED OUT ON NISAN 21, the Bride? Could the wise virgins be selected on Nisan 15 and caught up 7 days later in the Pre-Trib Rapture on Nisan 21?

DID THE EXODUS MARK THE DATE OF THE RAPTURE?

I thought the whole month of Nisan was the time of the latter rain. However, it only lasts until Nisan 15. Look below at what else I found. It says that the Jews crossed the Red Sea on Nisan 21.

"This Day in Jewish History"
Based on the book Day by Day in Jewish History by Rabbi Abraham P. Bloch
http://www.ou.org/about/judaism/bhyom/hebrew/nissan.htm
"THE TALMUD FIXED NISAN 15 AS THE BEGINNING OF THE HARVEST SEASON AND THE END OF THE RAINY SEASON....
the Exodus....
20 Nissan...Par'o and his pursing army caught up with the Jews encamped at Pi-HaChirot by the sea....
21 NISSAN...JEWS CROSSED THE RED SEA....
24 Nissan...The Jews paused at Mara after their crossing of the Red Sea. It was at Mara that the Jews spent their first Shabbat in the desert."

That's interesting, because Song of Solomon 2:10-14 says that the rain is over and gone. This could indicate that the Rapture would be after Nisan 15. How about an amazing rehearsal on Nisan 21?

The Exodus from Rameses was on Nisan 15. Could the crossing of the Red Sea have been on Nisan 21?

Ex 12:15-18 says, "Seven days shall ye eat unleavened bread; even the first day (Nisan 15) ye shall put away leaven out of your houses: for whosoever eateth leavened bread from the first day until the seventh day (Nisan 21), that soul shall be cut off from Israel. And in the first day there shall be an holy convocation, and in the seventh day there shall be an holy convocation to you; no manner of work shall be done in them, save that which every man must eat, that only may be done of you. And YE SHALL OBSERVE THE FEAST OF UNLEAVENED BREAD; FOR IN THIS SELFSAME DAY (yom, a space of time defined by an associated term, i.e., Nisan 15-21) HAVE I BROUGHT YOUR ARMIES OUT OF THE LAND OF EGYPT: therefore shall ye observe this day in your generations by an ordinance for ever. In the first month, ON THE FOURTEENTH DAY OF THE MONTH AT EVEN, YE SHALL EAT UNLEAVENED BREAD, UNTIL THE ONE AND TWENTIETH DAY OF THE MONTH AT EVEN."

This can refer to the 8-day period that begins with Passover, followed by the 7-day Feast of Unleavened Bread. Sometimes this entire 8-day period is also called the Feast of Unleavened Bread, because they ate unleavened bread on Passover too.

A search on Google turned up some other references to Israel crossing the Red Sea on Nisan 21.

www.messianic.ws/midrash.htm.
"Rabbinic literature ascribes certain events to certain dates:...
THE RED SEA CROSSED ON WEDNESDAY NISAN 21."

That's interesting. April 15, 2009, the 7th day of the Feast of Unleavened Bread, will fall on Wednesday.

http://www.messianic.ws/feasts.htm#H2
"Nisan 21: This is the day that Israel was brought through the Sea on dry ground, then saw the Egyptian army drowned in it. "

http://www.hebrew4christians.com/Holidays/Spring_Holidays/Shavuot/shavuot.html
"...THE FIRST DAY OF UNLEAVENED BREAD REMEMBERS THE EXODUS FROM...(EGYPT), THE SEVENTH DAY OF UNLEAVENED BREAD REMEMBERS THE CROSSING OF THE RED SEA".

http://www.abcog.org/plan.htm
"Nisan 15...Leaving Egypt...Last Day of Unleavened Bread Nisan 21 Crossing through Red Sea pursued by Pharaoh's army"

http://www.moseshand.com/holidays/holidays2.htm
"Abib 21 memorializes the passing through the Red Sea to finally come completely out of Egypt."

http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&rls=com.microsoft:en-us:IE-SearchBox&rlz=1I7SUNA_en&q=Exodus+crossing+Red+Sea+Nisan+21&start=80&sa=N "The crossing of the Red Sea took place on Nisan twenty-one..."

"PROBLEMS WITH MT. SINAI IN SAUDI ARABIA"
by Brad C. Sparks
http://ldolphin.org/sinai.html

"SEVEN DAYS...TRAVEL TO RED SEA MOST LIKELY"

"The book (by Williams and Cornuke) states that Bible scholars and archaeologists have "poor math" in misplacing Mt. Sinai in the Sinai (p. 71). A "glaring" math error has been committed for "thousands of years" in figuring that the Israelites reached the Red Sea from Goshen in only THREE DAYS...MARCH (p. 118). This MISTAKE is said to be due to the widespread "assumption" that Moses...request of Pharaoh for three days...journey into the wilderness to worship God (Exodus 5:3; 8:27) also represents the travel time to the Red Sea upon the Israelites...escape.

"However, the real reason scholars have thought (mistakenly) that it took three days to get to the Red Sea is that the Bible lists three stops (Succoth, Etham, and Pi-ha-Khiroth) and it is assumed each stop represented one overnight rest. But it cannot be simplistically assumed that the Israelites always camped at night since the pillar of cloud that led them by day was a pillar of fire by night "so that they could travel by day or night" according to Exodus 13:21."

"Ancient Jewish tradition identifies the eating of unleavened bread in haste for SEVEN DAYS in the Passover (Exodus 12:11-19, 37-39; 13:6-7) as the time occupied in hasty travel to the Red Sea. "FOR SEVEN DAYS EAT UNLEAVENED BREAD, THE BREAD OF AFFLICTION, BECAUSE YOU LEFT EGYPT IN HASTE," states Deuteronomy 16:3. IF SO, THE ISRAELITES TOOK SEVEN DAYS TO GET TO THE RED SEA. (51) The current book concedes the possibility that the Israelites reached the Red Sea in as little as only "five to seven days." (p. 125).

"3 DAYS TO SUCCOTH THEN 4 DAYS TO RED SEA

Footnote "(51) "Ancient Hebrew tradition" of 7-day travel on Abib/Nisan 15-21 from Egypt to the Red Sea: Johann David Michaelis, Essai physique sur lheure des marees dans la Mer Rouge, comparee avec lheure du passage des Hebreux (Paris, 1755; rev. Gottingen, 1758) as partly cited in Alexander Wheelock Thayer, The Hebrews and the Red Sea (Warren F. Draper, Andover, Mass., 1883) p. 11 fn. 1; see also Howard B. Rand, Primogenesis (Destiny Publishers, Haverhill, Mass., 1953) pp. 166-167, as quoted in John J. Davis, Moses and the Gods of Egypt (Baker, Grand Rapids, Mich., 1986 rev.) p. 174; Fields, Exploring Exodus (1976) pp. 260, 289 (3 DAYS TO SUCCOTH THEN 4 DAYS TO RED SEA)."

"On the eve of the SEVENTH DAY AFTER THE EXODUS, the Children of Israel found themselves trapped between the Egyptian army and cavalry pursuing them from behind and the waters of the Red Sea before them. G-d commanded Moses: "Speak to the Children of Israel, that they should move forward!"

www.bible-codes.org/letters-dream_russia-egypt.htm
"ACCORDING TO JEWISH TRADITION, THE HEBREWS CROSSED THE YAM SUF ON 21 NISSAN, 2448"

http://www.angelfire.com/pa2/passover/historyofpassover.html
"In the History of Passover, it says, "According to Jewish tradition, the Hebrews crossed the Yam Suf (Reed Sea) on 21 Nissan, 2448 according to the traditional Hebrew/Jewish dating chronology from the Seder Olam Rabbah"

THE 400 YEARS

Genesis 15:13 is a check on these figures. It says, "And he said unto Abram, Know of a surety that thy seed shall be a stranger in a land that is not their's, and shall serve them; and they (the Egyptians) shall afflict them (the Israelites) four hundred years." AH 2113, when wild Ishmael, son of Hagar the Egyptian, was cast out, + 400 years = 2513 AH, the Exodus. It was 185 years from when Ishmael was cast out, and Isaac weaned, to the entry into Egypt and another 215 years before the Exodus. They were afflicted 400 years. (185 + 215 = 400).

"2093 AH Abram married Hagar when he had been in the land 10 years (Gen 16:3) 2094 AH = 1949 BC Ishmael born 1 year later when Abram was 86 (Gen 16:16)"

THE 430 YEARS

Ex. 12:40-41 says, "Now the sojourning of the children of Israel, who dwelt in Egypt, was four hundred and thirty years. And it came to pass at the end of the four hundred and thirty years, even the selfsame day it came to pass, that all the hosts of the LORD went out from the land of Egypt." The day on which they left Egypt was supposed to be Jacob's 430th birthday.

EVENTS OF PASSOVER WEEK, NISAN 14 TO 21

NISAN 14, THE PASSOVER, ISRAELITES AT THEIR HOUSES IN GOSHEN
BETWEEN THE EVENINGS (BETWEEN 3 PM NISAN 13 AND 9 PM NISAN 14)
They killed the lambs, put blood on their door frames, and put meat in ovens
NIGHT
BEFORE MIDNIGHT - they roasted and ate the Passover lamb
AT MIDNIGHT - death of Egyptian firstborn, Pharaoh told Moses to go
DAY - they packed and traveled from Goshen to Rameses

Ex 12:6-8 (LITV): "And it shall be for you to keep until the fourteenth day of this month. And all the assembly of the congregation of Israel shall KILL IT BETWEEN THE EVENINGS. And they shall take from the blood, and put it on the two side doorposts and on the upper doorpost, on the houses in which they eat it. And they shall eat the flesh in this NIGHT, roasted with fire, and they shall eat it with unleavened bread and bitter herbs."

Ex 12:10-13 (LITV): "And you shall not leave any of it until morning. And you shall burn with fire that left from it until morning. And you shall eat it this way: with your loins girded, your sandals on your feet, and your staff in your hand. And you shall eat it in haste. It is the PASSOVER to Jehovah. And I will pass through in the land of Egypt in this NIGHT. And I will strike every first-born in the land of Egypt, from man even to livestock. And I will execute judgments on all the gods of Egypt. I am Jehovah! And the blood shall be a sign to you, on the houses where you are. And I will see the blood, and I WILL PASS OVER YOU. And the plague shall not be on you to destroy, when I strike in the land of Egypt."

NISAN 15, 1ST DAY OF UNLEAVENED BREAD
NIGHT - camped at Rameses
DAY - pulled up stakes, borrowed gold, silver, clothing, etc., and departed from Rameses

Nu 33:3-5 (LITV): "And they PULLED UP STAKES FROM RAMESES in the first month on the FIFTEENTH DAY of the first month. On the next day after the Passover the sons of Israel WENT OUT WITH A HIGH HAND, before the eyes of all the Egyptians. And the Egyptians were burying those whom Jehovah had smitten among them, every first-born, and Jehovah had executed judgments on their gods. And the sons of Israel PULLED UP STAKES FROM RAMESES AND CAMPED IN SUCCOTH. "

NISAN 16, 2ND DAY OF UNLEAVENED BREAD
NIGHT AND DAY, traveled south toward Succoth, the longest part of their travel toward the Red Sea crossing

NISAN 17, 3RD DAY OF UNLEAVENED BREAD
NIGHT - camped in Succoth
DAY - pulled up stakes, traveled to Etham

Nu 33:6 (LITV): "they PULLED UP STAKES FROM SUCCOTH (meaning booths) AND CAMPED AT ETHAM, WHICH IS IN THE EDGE OF THE WILDERNESS (midbar, desert)."

Ex 13:20 (LITV): "THEY PULLED UP STAKES FROM SUCCOTH, AND THEY CAMPED AT ETHAM (meaning their strength; their sign), in the edge of the wilderness."

NISAN 18, 4TH DAY OF UNLEAVENED BREAD

NIGHT, camped in Etham
DAY, pulled up stakes, departed from Etham

Num 33:7 (LITV): "And they pulled up stakes from Etham and TURNED BACK TO PIHAHIROTH (meaning mouth of water, or mouth of the gorges), which is before Baal-zephon; and they camped before Migdol (meaning watchtower, fortress)."

Ex 14:2,3 (LITV): "Speak to the sons of Israel, and let them RETURN AND CAMP BEFORE PIHAHIROTH, BETWEEN MIGDOL (the watchtower) AND THE SEA, BEFORE BAAL-ZEPHON (meaning lord of winter). YOU SHALL CAMP OPPOSITE IT, BY THE SEA. (BAAL-ZEPHON seems to have been on the other shore of the Red Sea.) And Pharaoh will say as to the sons of Israel, They are entangled in the land, the wilderness has shut them in,"

NISAN 19, 5TH DAY OF UNLEAVENED BREAD
NIGHT - camped before Pihakiroth between Migdol (meaning watchtower) and the Red Sea
DAY - camped by the Sea

Ex 14:9 (LITV): "And the Egyptians pursued them. And they overtook them CAMPING BY THE SEA, all the horses and the chariots of Pharaoh, and his horsemen, and his army, by Pihahiroth, before Baal-zephon."

NISAN 20, 6TH DAY OF UNLEAVENED BREAD
NIGHT - pull up stakes
DAY - raise your staff, and stretch out your hand over the sea, and divide it

Ex 14:15,16 (LITV): "Jehovah said to Moses, Why do you cry to Me? Speak to the sons of Israel, and let them PULL UP STAKES. AND YOU, RAISE YOUR STAFF, AND STRETCH OUT YOUR HAND OVER THE SEA, AND DIVIDE IT so that the sons of Israel may go in the midst of the sea on dry ground."

Ex 14:19-22 (LITV): "And the Angel of God withdrew, the One going before the camp of Israel. And He went behind them. And the pillar of cloud withdrew from before them, and it stood behind them. And it came between the camp of Egypt and the camp of Israel. And it was cloudy and dark. And it lit up the night; and this ONE DID NOT COME NEAR TO THAT ONE ALL NIGHT. And Moses stretched out his hand over the sea, and JEHOVAH CAUSED THE SEA TO GO BACK BY A STRONG EAST WIND ALL NIGHT. And He made the sea dry land, and the waters divided. And the sons of Israel came into the middle of the sea on dry ground, the waters being a wall to them from their right and from their left."

NISAN 21, 7TH DAY OF UNLEAVENED BREAD
NIGHT - GOD CAUSED THE SEA TO GO BACK BY STRONG EAST WIND ALL NIGHT
ISRAEL PASSED OVER THROUGH THE MIDST OF THE SEA
MORNING WATCH, the Sea returned and killed the Egyptians
DAY - Israel became an army, picking up the Egyptian weapons thrown up on the shore

Pharaoh came after them, his chariots and his horsemen, into the middle of the sea Ex 14:24-28 (LITV): "IT HAPPENED IN THE MORNING WATCH (i.e., just before dawn): Jehovah looked on the camp of the Egyptians in the pillar of fire and cloud. And He confused the camp of the Egyptians. And He took off the wheels of their chariots, and made them drive with difficulty. And the Egyptians said, I will flee from the face of Israel, for Jehovah is fighting for them against the Egyptians. And Jehovah said to Moses, Stretch out your hand over the sea, and let the waters return on the Egyptians. And Moses stretched out his hand over the sea, and the sea returned to its usual flow, AT THE TURNING OF THE MORNING, and the Egyptians were fleeing to meet it. And Jehovah shook off the Egyptians into the middle of the sea. And the waters returned and covered the chariots and the horsemen, together with all the army of Pharaoh, those going after them, into the sea. And not even one was left. "

Ex 12:16, 17 (LITV): "And on the first day (Nisan 15) shall be a holy gathering, and IN THE SEVENTH DAY A HOLY (qodesh, holy, dedicated, saint) GATHERING (miqra, REHEARSAL, SOMETHING CALLED OUT) shall be to you. Not any work may be done on them. Only what must be eaten by your soul, that alone may be done by you. And you shall observe the unleavened bread for ON THIS VERY DAY (i.e., Nisan 21) I BROUGHT OUT YOUR ARMIES FROM THE LAND OF EGYPT. And you shall observe this day for your GENERATIONS, a statute forever."

Nu 33:8 (LITV): "And they pulled up stakes from Pihahiroth and PASSED OVER THROUGH THE MIDST OF THE SEA, into the wilderness, and went a journey of three days in the wilderness (desert) of Etham, and camped at Marah.

Ex 15:13 (LITV): "In Your mercy YOU LED THE PEOPLE WHOM YOU REDEEMED; YOU GUIDED IN YOUR STRENGTH TO YOUR HOLY DWELLING."

At the Rapture, the Lord will guide us in his strength to our holy dwelling, New Jerusalem. Nisan 21 was also the day the city of Jericho was given to Israel.

Rahab and all in her house were saved. Jos 6:23 says, "And the young men that were spies went in, and brought out Rahab, and her father, and her mother, and her brethren, and all that she had; and they brought out all her kindred, and left them without the camp of Israel."

Jos 6:20 says, "So the people shouted when the priests blew with the trumpets: and it came to pass, when the people heard the sound of the trumpet, and the people shouted with a great shout, that the wall fell down flat, so that THE PEOPLE WENT UP INTO THE CITY, EVERY MAN STRAIGHT BEFORE HIM, AND THEY TOOK THE CITY." That sounds like it would represent the Rapture. We will go up to New Jerusalem.

Incoming e-mail, Re: 2018 Year of Return - 42 Generations

I know you will probably disagree with me, however I think 2018 will be the year when Jesus returns, I believe His return will be 42 generations from the year of his birth, the same amount of generations from Abraham to Jesus (42 generations) 42 x 48.13 years for a generation, from 3BC takes us to 2018 - which some also argue is a Jubilee year. Cheers

My reply

Let's see. Jesus was born in 5 BC (3759), before Herod died in 4 BC. Would that make the Second Advent 2016 (5776)? Agape

His reply

My goodness Marilyn, what a silly mistake from me, yes you are absolutely correct..That being the case your current projections seem to fit in beautifully...

His reply, RE: Birkat Hachama

With respect to the recent discussion on this, looks like it has occurred on Nissan 14 a total of 11 times, April 8th 1925 was the last time, see below - ref http://www.sunblessing.org/kabbala Agape
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When will the next Birkat HaChama (Birkat haShemesh or Sun Blessing) take place? Birkat HaChama will next be said on Wednesday, 8 April in the year 2009 (Hebrew date: 14 Nissan 5769). Is there anything special about this date, 14 Nissan 5769? There might be: the Kadosh Elyon (the "Ostrovster Admor") wrote that there are only 3 times in 6,000 years of Jewish history when Birkat HaChama falls on 14 Nissan.

These are:
Prior to being redeemed from Egypt.
Prior to the miracle of Purim.
In the year 5769.

Since the first 2 occurrences preceded miracles and redemption, the Admor wrote that in the year 5769 the same will occur: This will be the last time ever and shortly afterwards, the redemption must come.

Note: The Ostrovster Admor wrote that Birkat HaChama falls on 14 Nissan only 3 times in history, when, in fact, the year 5769 will be the 11th time that this occurs! (The last time was on 8 April 1925). Perhaps he was referring only to those times when Birkat HaChama precedes a major redemption. Certainly 5769 will be the last time when this can happen.

My reply

> > 2018 - which some also argue is a Jubilee year

I don't see how they figure that. Jubilee years follow a Sabbatic Year. 5768 (2007/2008) was Sabbatic. 5775 (2014/2015) is Sabbatic. The next Sabbatic Year after that will be 5782. I think the Jubilee Year will be 5776.

Thanks for figuring there are about 42 generations between the First Advent of Jesus in 5 BC and the Second Advent in 2016 AD. I had not thought about that one. Two heads are better than one.

Thanks too for the information about the Blessing of the Sun. I can see that the date gradually creeps forward on the Gregorian Calendar. See below.

http://www.sunblessing.org:80/kabbala
The Mar Shmuel year is only used for determining when to say Birkat HaChama and the Prayer for Dew and Rain (Tal U'matar). Birkat HaChama was last said on 8 Nissan 5741 (corresponding to 8 April 1981). This was the 205th 28-year cycle of the Sun. It will be said again on 8 April in the years 2009, 2037, 2065 and 2093. In the 22nd century, the date will advance to 9 April for the years 2121, 2149 and 2177.

Customs
When do we say the Blessing? From the moment the upper arc of the Sun first appears until the full disc of the Sun is visible, which takes about 2 1/2 minutes. The Blessing should preferably be said during this time http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Birkat_HaHammah

("The text of the blessing itself follows: "Blessed are You, LORD, our God, King of the Universe who makes the works of Creation."...

The primary source for the institution of Birchat Hachammah is a Beraita mentioned in the Talmud:[2] "Our rabbis taught: 'He who sees the sun at its turning point...recites the blessing of 'the maker of works of creation.")...

Birkat HaChamah:...

April 7, 1897 = 5 Nisan, 5657
April 8, 1925 = 14 Nisan, 5685
April 8, 1953 = 23 Nisan, 5713
April 8, 1981 = 4 Nisan, 5741
April 8, 2009 = 14 Nisan, 5769
April 8, 2037 = 23 Nisan, 5797
April 8, 2065 = 2 Nisan, 5825
April 8, 2093 = 12 Nisan, 5853
April 9, 2121 = 21 Nisan, 5881"

Agape

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