Pro and Con 1476

Posted 3-16-09

Incoming e-mail, Re: Calculating the Date of Birkat Hachamah

My reply
"Why every 28th year?"

"According to tradition, the sun was created at the moment of the spring equinox1 which coincided with the first moment of the fourth day of creation—the day when G-d set into orbit the sun, moon and all the heavenly bodies.2 Since, in Jewish tradition, the day begins at the previous nightfall – as we see in the Torah's account of the story of creation, "It was evening, and it was day..." – this actually happened with nightfall on Tuesday evening.

"When the sun reaches this starting point again at the exact same time of day and on the same day of the week, we recite the Birkat Hachamah the next morning, shortly after sunrise.3 This occurs once every 28 years—and this year on Nissan 14, 5769 (April 8, 2009)....

"the next four Birkat Hachamahs (2009, 2037, 2065 and 2093) will all be on April 8....

"say Birkat Hachamah and the prayers for Dew and Rain in the daily prayers....

"in the 22nd century Birkat Hachamah will always occur (in the years 2121, 2149, and 2177) on April 9, rather than April 8....

"Rosh Hashanah actually is the anniversary of the sixth day of creation, the day when Adam and Eve were created."...

Thanks. Now I see how they figured the Birkat Hachamah. It might not be calculated from the exact date when the Sun was created, as 3760 was not the exact date of creation, either. However, it has been kept every 28 years since they started, and the date it falls on this year is interesting. April 8, 2009 (Nisan 14, 5769) is the true Passover, and it doesn't fall on that day very often.

It calls our attention to the time Passover week starts. I think the Rapture is likely on the last day of that week, Nisan 21, the 7th day of Unleavened Bread. That was the date of the Exodus through the Red Sea and the date Jericho fell, when the people ascended up.

Joshua 6:5 says, "it shall come to pass, that when they make a long blast with the ram's horn, and when ye hear the sound of the trumpet, all the people shall shout with a great shout; and the wall of the city shall fall down flat, and the people shall ASCEND UP every man straight before him." Agape

Incoming e-mail, Re: The Last Blessing of the Sun April 8th

Listening to JR Church is how I became aware of Jewish escatological writings. I went to this chibad website to discover more. Unfortunately a recent daily update for last Thursday says much more about "the blessing of the Sun" not found on this chibad website.

Try to locate the daily update for Wednesday which features an amatuer prophecy buff "Chuck from New York" who presents amazing new material which, profoundly increases the importance of "Birkat Hachamah" (BH).

Jewish escatology figures very much into this date. In the entire history of Jewish time, the (BH) only occurs "3 times on Passover" Apparently, there is only this next blessing of the sun in 5769 before the Jewish messiah return and redeem Israel! No more "Birkat Hachamahs" exist that take place on Passover according to the Codesh Teriarr. The two previous dates were at the Redemption of the Jews from Egypt; first Passover and at Purim whem the miracle of the redemption of the Jews in Persia. Only BH on Passover this year remains! That's right, only this April 8th remains before Israel is once again redeemed!

How this affects Christian pretribulationalists, I don't understand? Please go to PITN then click on last Wednesday's daily update. Immediately JR says "Chuck from New York sent us an interesting e-mail" JR reads his e-mail, hold on to your hat Sister!

Thank you for your prayers and your work for the Kingdom of Jesus Christ.

My reply

Thanks for your kind words.

This blessing of the Sun and prayers for dew and rain on April 8th (the real Passover, Nisan 14; Lev. 23:4,5) points out the importance of THIS YEAR'S Passover week. I expect the last day of Unleavened Bread, Nisan 21, 5769 (April 15, 2009) will be the day of our Exodus. Israel's Exodus through the Red Sea and the fall of Jericho were both on Nisan 21, although separated by 40 years.

The Israelites kept Passover, Nisan 14, then marched around Jericho 7 days. On Nisan 21, they marched around it 7 times and the wall fell. Why 7 times? That ties the taking of the city of Jericho in with Saturn's (Heaven's) 7 rings. Jericho means his month, and Nisan certainly is Jesus' month. As you know, I think he was crucified on the preparation of the Passover, Thursday, Nisan 13, 5790 (April 6, 30 AD).

Zechariah 3:9,10 (LXX) says, "For as for the stone (i.e., Saturn, the third heaven) which I have set before the face of Jesus, on the one stone are seven eyes (orbs, i.e., rings).

In 2Co 12:2-4 (KJV), Paul said, "I knew a man (it was Paul himself, he didn't want to boast) in Christ above fourteen years ago, (whether in the body, I cannot tell; or whether out of the body, I cannot tell: God knoweth;) such an one caught up to the THIRD HEAVEN (i.e., Mars, Jupiter, Saturn). And I knew such a man, (whether in the body, or out of the body, I cannot tell: God knoweth;) How that he was caught up into paradise, and heard unspeakable words, which it is not lawful for a man to utter."

Eze. 1:1 (LXX) says, "Now it came to pass in the thirtieth year, in the fourth month, on the fifth day of the month, that I was in the midst of the captivity by the river of Chobar; and the HEAVENS WERE OPENED, AND I SAW VISIONS OF GOD."

Eze. 1:25-28 (LXX) says, "And lo! a voice from above the firmament (i.e., expanse of space) that was over their head, [there was] as the appearance of a SAPPHIRE stone (sapphire, the September birthstone of Jesus means Heaven and dear to the planet Saturn, from the Sanskrit Sani, Saturn, and priya, dear), [and] the likeness of a THRONE upon it: and upon the likeness of the throne was the likeness as an appearance of a man (Jesus the GOD/MAN) above. And I saw as it were the resemblance of amber from the appearance of the loins (from the equator) and upwards, and from the appearance of the loins (from the equator) and under I saw an appearance of fire, and the brightness thereof round about. As the appearance of the bow when it is in the cloud in days of rain, so was the form of brightness round about" (i.e., Saturn's rings look like circular rainbows).

> > The two previous dates were at the Redemption of the Jews from Egypt; first Passover and at Purim when the miracle of the redemption of the Jews in Persia

That is perfect to mark the time of Passover for us. I think their Exodus through the Red Sea on Nisan 21 marks the date of our Exodus to Heaven. If we are the barley harvest, none could be eaten until after Firstfruits. Pentecost marks the beginning of wheat harvest. Between Firstfruits and Pentecost are two dates that could mark the date of the Rapture, the 7th day of Unleavened Bread or Ascension Day, or both. It is possible that the dead in Christ would be raised on the 7th day of Unleavened Bread, and we would all be caught up to the third heaven on Ascension Day. However, Nisan 21 seems most likely to me. Jesus took those that came out of their graves to Heaven on Resurrection Day, the feast of Firstfruits. I don't think they hung around until Ascension Day.

Rev. 17:12-14 shows that when the saints are already with Christ, the 10 kings have not yet received their kingdoms. It says, "And the ten horns which thou sawest are ten kings, which have received no kingdom as yet; but receive power as kings one hour with the beast. These have one mind, and shall give their power and strength unto the beast.These shall make war with the Lamb, and the Lamb shall overcome them: for he is Lord of lords, and King of kings: and they that ARE WITH HIM are called, and chosen, and faithful."

We will escape before the Tribulation, which I expect will start on Pentecost, May 29, 2009. Luke 21:36 (KJV) says, "Watch ye therefore, and pray always, that ye may be accounted worthy to escape all these things that shall come to pass, and to stand before the Son of man." Rev. 3:10 says, "Because thou hast kept the word of my patience (lit., patient enduring), I also will keep thee from (ek, out of) the hour of temptation, which shall come upon all the world, to try them that dwell upon the earth."

Changing the subject, I think the first beast of Rev. 13 will be a religious leader, a man of the cloth. In Rev. 6, the man on the white horse is holding a "bow", toxon, piece of simple fabric. In the Gospel in the Stars, Cepheus, representing Christ as the great king, is holding aloft a piece of toxon, simple fabric, to show that he represents a religious leader.

Cepheus represents Christ, but Mt 7:15 says, "Beware of false prophets, which come to you in sheep's clothing (i.e., woolen fabric, like the Pallium, strip of woolen cloth, the Pontifex Maximus wears), but inwardly they are ravening wolves." I bet the Pope is hot in all those robes. He is a man of the cloth.


My reply to a post on Five Doves site by Peggy McIlveene, Re: The patriarchs from before Yahshua’s crucifixion, death and resurrection not being raised until later

I think the 24 elders of Rev. 4:4 are the 12 patriarchs and the 13 apostles of Israel. They are caught up at the First Trump Rapture.

Consider the type in Num 10:1-4. It says, "And the LORD spake unto Moses, saying, Make thee two trumpets of silver; of a whole piece shalt thou make them: that thou mayest use them for the calling of the assembly, and for the journeying of the camps. And when they shall blow with them (i.e., both), ALL the assembly ("all" as in I Cor. 15:51,52) shall assemble themselves to thee at the door of the tabernacle of the congregation. And if they blow but with one trumpet (as in I Thess. 4:16,17), then the princes (i.e., the 12 patriarchs), which are heads of the thousands of Israel, shall gather themselves unto thee."

> > The Patriarchs were NOT Yahshua’s Bride. And we are only going to be “in Heaven” until the Trib is over, then we will be returning WITH Him TO THE EARTH, and that is where we will stay, not in Heaven.

I'm planning to live in New Jerusalem. Even Abraham now wants to be in the heavenly city. Heb 11:16 says, "But now they desire a better country, that is, an HEAVENLY: wherefore God is not ashamed to be called their God: for he hath prepared for them a city."

During the Millennium, this city will probably orbit the Earth like the Moon. Rev 3:12 says, "Him that overcometh will I make a pillar in the temple of my God, and he shall go no more out: and I will write upon him the name of my God, and the name of the city of my God, which is new Jerusalem, which cometh down out of heaven from my God: and I will write upon him my new name." Agape

My reply to an incoming email

> > Ezk. 39:9 says it will take "seven years" to clean-up the mess after the Gog-Magog battle. The Tribulation lasts seven years. I apprecaite your enthusiasm, and Ron's, but your arguments on the Obama event on Oct 29, and in Marilyn's case Oct. 21- are flawed. Yes, the 'peace' convenant will not last 7 years, but as I stated earler the clean-up will last 7 years. So how can we possibly already be into the Tribulation?

The Gog and Magog battle takes place on the Day of God's Wrath at the end of the shortened Great Tribulation.

Eze. 38:18-20 says, "And it shall come to pass at the same time when Gog shall come against the land of Israel, saith the Lord GOD, that MY FURY SHALL COME UP IN MY FACE. FOR IN MY JEALOUSY AND IN THE FIRE OF MY WRATH HAVE I SPOKEN, Surely in that day (i.e., the Day of God's Wrath) there shall be a great shaking in the land of Israel (the asteroid piece as big as a mountain, Rev. 8:8, hits the Mediterranean Sea); So that the fishes of the sea, and the fowls of the heaven, and the beasts of the field, and all creeping things that creep upon the earth, and all the men that are upon the face of the earth, shall shake at my presence (paniym, face, i.e., the Sign of the Son of Man will be seen in the sky), and the mountains (asteroids of Rev. 8:8-11) shall be thrown down, and the steep places shall fall, and EVERY WALL SHALL FALL TO THE GROUND" (i.e., in the worldwide earthquake).

Eze 39:8-13 says,"Behold, it is come, and it is done, saith the Lord GOD; this is the day whereof I have spoken (i.e., the Day of God's Wrath). And they that dwell in the cities of Israel shall go forth, and shall set on fire and burn the weapons, both the shields and the bucklers, the bows and the arrows, and the handstaves, and the spears, and they shall burn them with fire seven years: So that they shall take no wood out of the field, neither cut down any out of the forests; for they shall burn the weapons with fire: and they shall spoil those that spoiled them, and rob those that robbed them, saith the Lord GOD. And it shall come to pass in that day, that I will give unto Gog a place there of graves in Israel, the valley of the passengers on the east of the sea: and it shall stop the noses of the passengers: and there shall they bury Gog and all his multitude: and they shall call it The valley of Hamongog. And seven months (i.e., that year is a Leap Year, when Tishri 1 to Nisan 1 is 7 months) shall the house of Israel be burying of them, that they may cleanse the land. Yea, all the people of the land shall bury them; and it shall be to them a renown the day that I shall be glorified (i.e., the Second Advent on Nisan 1), saith the Lord GOD."

> > So how can we possibly already be into the Tribulation?

We are not yet into the Tribulation. It sure looks like it will start next Pentecost, though. I think it will start May 29, 2009 (Pentecost) and end 2300 days later (Dan. 8:13,14) on Tishri 1, 5766 (the Feast of Trumpets).

Dan 8:13,14 says, "Then I heard one saint speaking, and another saint said unto that certain saint which spake, How long shall be the vision concerning the daily sacrifice (i.e., the first half of the Tribulation), and the transgression of desolation (Mid-Trib), to give both the sanctuary and the host to be trodden under foot (during the Shortened Great Tribulation)? And he said unto me, Unto two thousand and three hundred days; then shall the sanctuary be cleansed."

How was the floor of the Temple cleansed after sacrifices were killed? with running water. They opened holes in the bottom of the walls and let the water flow until the marble looked like milk. On Tishri 1, 5776, the sanctuary will probably be cleansed by a tsunami when the asteroid of Rev. 8:8 impacts the Mediterranean Sea.

If I am right, the Pre-Trib Rapture should take place before next Pentecost. I'm hoping for Nisan 21, 5769 (April 15, 2009). That is the 7th day of Unleavened Bread. If we are the barley harvest, it starts on Firstfruits. Between Firstfruits and Pentecost, there are 2 chances for the Rapture, the 7th day of Unleavened Bread and Ascension Day (May 19, 2009).

Re: Oct 21, 2008, the 70th week of Daniel 9:27 could have started that day. It was the 8th day of Tabernacles. During that 7 years, the Shortened Tribulation should take place. Agape


Notes on Revelation

"21 Nissan, 5764 (April 12, 2004)

"Festival of Matzos/Feast of Unleavened Bread - Day 7... "Passing Through the Iron Gate (File on Acts chapter 12 which takes place during the Festival of Matzos and SHOWS PETER being imprisoned by Herod [type of Antichrist] and then "DISAPPEARING" FROM JAIL.)

"21 Nisan 2448 - The traditional date for the parting of Red Sea for the Israelites on their way from Egypt....Most anniversaries of important events taken from "The Voice of the Lord: Messianic Jewish Daily Devotional" edited by David J. Rudolph."


Acts 12:3-10 says, "And because he (Herod) saw it pleased the Jews, he proceeded further to take Peter also. (THEN WERE THE DAYS OF UNLEAVENED BREAD.) And when he had apprehended him, he put him in prison, and delivered him to four quaternions of soldiers to keep him; intending after Easter to bring him forth to the people. Peter therefore was kept in prison: but prayer was made without ceasing of the church unto God for him. And when Herod would have brought him forth (i.e., after Easter/Firstfruits), the same night Peter was sleeping between two soldiers, bound with two chains: and the keepers before the door kept the prison. And, behold, the angel of the Lord came upon him, and a light shined in the prison: and he smote Peter on the side, and raised him up, saying, ARISE UP QUICKLY. And his chains fell off from his hands. And the angel said unto him, GIRD THYSELF, AND BIND ON THY SANDALS. And so he did. And he saith unto him, CAST THY GARMENT ABOUT THEE, AND FOLLOW ME. And he went out, and followed him; and wist not that it was true which was done by the angel; but thought he saw a vision. When they were past the first and the second ward, they came unto THE IRON GATE that leadeth unto the city; which OPENED TO THEM OF HIS OWN ACCORD: and they went out, and passed on through one street; and forthwith the angel departed from him."
Months and Festivals
Crossing of the Red Sea [Nissan 21]
21 Nisan 2448 (April 7, 1312 BCE): The traditional date for the parting of Red Sea for the Israelites on their way from Egypt.
Shavuot - Revelation and the Fruit of the Spirit According to the sages: the New Moon marks the start of sacred time, Passover remembers the sacrifice of the Passover Lamb, THE FIRST DAY OF UNLEAVENED BREAD REMEMBERS THE EXODUS FROM EGYPT, THE SEVENTH DAY OF UNLEAVENED BREAD REMEMBERS THE CROSSING OF THE RED SEA...
"Jews Welcome Nissan, Hebrew Month of Redemption"
by Ezra HaLevi
"NISSAN 21: THE RED SEA SPLIT for the Jewish people as they fled Egypt....and "the children of Israel walked across on the dry land in the midst of the sea." The Egyptians followed, but the water returned to its natural state, drowning them. The nation of Israel sang the "Song at the Sea" celebrating the miracle."
This Day in Jewish History

[21 Nissan]

Jacob left Laban's home to return to Eretz Yisrael.
Par'o's decree against Jewish male infants was canceled.
Jews crossed the Red Sea. Moshe and the people of Israel sang the Shira.
Today in Jewish History
Red Sea Splits (1313 BCE)

On the eve of the seventh day after the Exodus, the Children of Israel found themselves trapped between the Egyptian army and cavalry pursuing them from behind and the waters of the Red Sea before them. G-d commanded Moses: "Speak to the Children of Israel, that they should move forward!"

...the water split, and "the children of Israel walked across on the dry land in the midst of the sea." All that night, a pillar of fire intervened between the Egyptians and the Israelites. When the Egyptians followed, the waters returned to their natural state and place and drowned them. The Children of Israel sang the "Song at the Sea" in praise and gratitude to G-d.
The Calendar and God's Plan of Salvation
Last Day of Unleavened Bread
Nisan 21
Crossing through Red Sea pursued by Pharaoh's army Exod 14
P A R A S H A - P A G E
by Mordecai Kornfeld
"According to the Midrash, it was on the seventh day of Pesach (21 Nisan) that the Reed Sea miraculously split for the Jewish Nation and drowned the Egyptian pursuers."
The Red Sea crossed on Wednesday Nisan 21.
R. Larry Overstreet (Arutz Sheva News)
Numbers 33:10-11, therefore, testifies that Moses and the Israelites camped along the yam-sûph at least five days after they crossed miraculously through the sea, which Exodus identifies as the yam-sûph. That indicates that the identical body of water, the yam-sûph, is at the least long enough to parallel five days of journeying.
the construction of the canal to the Red Sea, a work completed afterwards by Darius the Persian, the length of which is FOUR DAYS' JOURNEY"

Herodotus even gives the length of this canal as 115 miles.
The Yam Suph
"Red Sea" or "Sea of Reeds"?
Dennis Bratcher

It is also a problem that the main body of the Red Sea lies much too far to the south to be reached by a large company of people in such a short span of time.... The posited northern route lies across the northern Sinai Peninsula with Mount Sinai identified as Jebel Helal, about 30 miles west of the oasis of Kadesh-Barnea.
The Red Sea Crossing
By Noel Chartier
One day "he led the flock to THE BACKSIDE OF THE DESERT, AND CAME TO THE MOUNTAIN OF GOD, EVEN TO HOREB " (Exodus 3:1). It was here that the angel of the LORD appeared to Moses in a burning bush that was not consumed and received his commission to deliver the children of Israel out of Egypt. Moses was told "When thou hast brought forth the people out of Egypt, YE SHALL SERVE GOD UPON THIS MOUNTAIN " (Exodus 3:12)....

Succoth is believed to be just outside Egypt proper...

"they took their journey from Succoth, and encamped in Etham, in the edge of the wilderness " (Exodus 13:20)....

Smiths Bible Dictionary says Etham comes "from the Coptic atiom , [meaning] "boundary of the sea".

Exo 13:18 "But God led the people about, through the way of the wilderness of the Red sea: and the children of Israel went up (i.e., toward the Mediterranean Sea) harnessed out of the land of Egypt."
Referring to the the satellite image below, notice the radar like range circles. Rameses is the center point. Each range circle represents 10 miles. This would be the distance the Israelites could be expected to travel in a single day....THE FIRST PROBLEM THAT WE FACE IS SUCCOTH IS MORE THAN A ONE DAY JOURNEY FROM RAMESES.

Referring to the previous map, it is about 25 miles from Rameses to Succoth.
P A R A S H A - P A G E
by Mordecai Kornfeld of Har Nof, Jerusalem
According to the Midrash, it was on the seventh day of Pesach (21 Nisan) that the Reed Sea miraculously split for the Jewish Nation and drowned the Egyptian pursuers. Moshe led the nation in a song of praise to Hashem which, Rashi tells us, will be repeated following the Resurrection of the Dead.
The Journey's Of The Sons of Israel
By Hillel ben David (Greg Killian)
Describing HaShem's loving care of the Jewish people, the Torah says, "You have seen what I did to Egypt and that I carried you on eagles' wings and brought you to Me" (Shemot 19:4). What did HaShem mean when He said "And brought you to me"?

Incoming e-mail, Re: First Person: The Palace of Solomon’s Daughter?

By Hershel Shanks, Mar/Apr 2009

My reply

Thanks. How interesting.

"...the building she has excavated with WALLS 7 TO 11 FEET THICK might well be King David’s palace in Jerusalem....

"In a parking lot across the road...a large public building with WALLS MORE THAN 16 FEET THICK but from the end of the Second Temple period....probably the palace of Queen Helena of Adiabene. Queen Helena came to Jerusalem from Babylon and converted to Judaism around 30 A.D....

"Tel Dor on the Mediterranean coast of Israel....Ilan showed me A WALL SEVERAL FEET THICK...The wall dates to the period archaeologists call Iron Age IIa (the time of King Solomon...The leader of the district of Dor was Ben-Abinadab, and he married Solomon’s daughter Taphath (1 Kings 4:11)....“Here is Taphath’s palace,”..."

It sounds like they are identified correctly. However, look at the size of those walls. I had no idea that they made buildings with such thick walls. To me, they seem more like fortified city walls. Maybe that is a good indicator of how important the people associated with those buildings were.


You state that you believe that a generation is 48 years in length, and I agree. When we add 48 years (ie. one generation or the last generation) to the Year 1967 we get the Year 2015 which must be the year of the Second Coming of our Lord.

We know that the number 42 (ie. 42 generations) is associated with the appearing of our Lord Jesus the First time.

This year, 2009, is the 42nd year of a 49 year Sabbatical Cycle (7 x 7 years = 49 years) from 1967.

When we add 42 years to the Year 1967 we get the Year 2009 which must be the year of His Appearing or 'descending from Heaven to gather us up together with them in the clouds'.

According to your Promise, Come Lord Jesus!

My reply

Thanks. That sure makes it clear and easy to understand. We need that to avoid getting mired in the details. It looks like we are getting there.

Of course, we can zero in a bit closer when we figure using the Hebrew Calendar and any fractions that turn up. According to Mt. 1:17, a generation is 48.33 years. Even the 4 extra months fit. If I remember right, the Six-Day War was in Iyar. The 4 extra months on the Hebrew Calendar are Sivan, Tamuz, Av and Elul.

The year 5776 seems to be the year of both the Day of God's Wrath (Tishri 1) and the Second Advent (Nisan 1). The former is our Sept. 14, 2015, the llatter is April 9, 2016.

The Jewish Year 5768 was a Sabbatical Year. Since Sept. 30, 2008, we are in 5769. Agape

Afterthought: The Israelites had forty-two encampments in the wilderness. That seems significant too, since 1967 + 42 = 2009. After their 42 encampments, they crossed over Jordan dry shod and took Jericho on Nisan 21. The kept Passover, then circled Jericho 7 days.

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