Pro and Con 1478

Posted 3-22-09

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Methuselah lived 969 years

A friend called and reminded me that Methuselah lived 969 years, and that his name means "when he is dead it will be sent. " Gen 5:27 says, "And all the days of Methuselah were nine hundred sixty and nine years: and he died." After he died the Flood came.

Why 969, and not 999? Just maybe it is because 5769 is the year the Tribulation will be sent. At its end, the Tribulation temple will probably end with a tsunami when the asteroid of Rev. 8:8 impacts the Mediterranean Sea.

Dan 9:26,27 (LITV) says, "And after sixty two weeks, Messiah shall be cut off (karath, killed), but not for Himself. And the people (Romans) of a coming ruler (the False Prophet) shall destroy the city (Jerusalem) and the sanctuary (i.e., the Temple). And ITS END SHALL BE WITH THE FLOOD, and ruins are determined, and war (i.e., the Gog and Magog war of Eze. 38) shall be until the end. And he (the False Prophet) shall confirm (or strengthen) a covenant with the many for one week (i.e., the Tribulation). And in the middle of the week he shall cause the sacrifice and the offering to cease. And on a corner of the altar will be abominations (idols) that desolate, even until the end. And that which was decreed shall pour out on the desolator."

I think the 2300-day Shortened Tribulation of Dan. 8:13,14 will start Sivan 6, 5769 (May 29, 2009) Pentecost.

Enoch, a prophet, the father of Methuselah, was caught up to Heaven before Methuselah died. Then the Flood came.

Gen 5:24 says, "Enoch, the prophet and teacher, walked with God: and he was not; for God took him." This represented the Pre-Trib Rapture. Therefore, it seems possible that 969 could be a clue that the Rapture would take place in 5769.

Incoming e-mail, Re: A GENERATION IS 48 YEARS AND THE NUMBER 42

You state that you believe that a generation is 48 years in length, and I agree. When we add 48 years (ie. one generation or the last generation) to the Year 1967 we get the Year 2015 which must be the year of the Second Coming of our Lord.

We know that the number 42 (ie. 42 generations) is associated with the appearing of our Lord Jesus the First time.

This year, 2009, is the 42nd year of a 49 year Sabbatical Cycle (7 x 7 years = 49 years) from 1967.

When we add 42 years to the Year 1967 we get the Year 2009 which must be the year of His Appearing or 'descending from Heaven to gather us up together with them in the clouds'.

According to your Promise, Come Lord Jesus!

My reply

> > When we add 42 years to the Year 1967 we get the Year 2009 which must be the year of His Appearing or 'descending from Heaven to gather us up together with them in the clouds'.

I found something interesting in the Babylonian Talmud: Tractate 'Abodah Zarah, Folio 10a. (http://www.come-and-hear.com/zarah/zarah_10.html)

The 2nd Temple existed 42 years.

In 1967, Israel took possession of the Temple Mount, but didn't start to build the Temple on it. Now, I think I understand why. During the next 42 years, the Christians are to still be the spiritual Temple of the Lord. Only after the Pre-Trib Rapture can the physical Temple be built. Agape

Incoming e-mail, Re: Speaking G*ds Language Through GRB's Placed in the Heavens

We have demonstrated a vital link between GRB's and G*ds prophetic plan for all of His creation. Not a singls GRB occurs randomly because, all contain a message from heaven. Let's examine the prophetic use of GRBs, they are timed to reveal G-d's prophetic plan.

So far I have linked GRB 990123 successfully to the Sabbath Saturday January 23rd 1999. G*d commanded the first mitzvah be given to the people of Israel: to establish a calendar based on the monthly rebirth of the moon. The Israelites are also instructed to bring a "Passover offering" to G*d: a lamb or kid is to be slaughtered and its blood sprinkled on the doorposts and lintel of every Israelite home, so that G*d should pass over these homes when He comes to kill the Egyptian firstborn.

We can better appreciate the importance of gamma ray bursters because, they tell us to begin counting down from the beginning (GRB 990123) toward the glorious end of the Great Tribulation on 09/15/15 with the final (GRB 080916) explosion of 2008. The most powerful detonation ever witnessed by man.

Just like G*d's command for the Jews in Egypt to begin to count down the Jewish calendar, we are to begin the final countdown by GRB 990123!

Later GRB 080319B, the "naked-eye GRB" was a signal to "open our eyes", announce G*ds 74 day training plan for the miraculous redemption coming after seven days of work completed and finished on the eighth day, Nissan 1 5769. The Rapture and other miracles occur on Ascension Day Nissan 21st 5769, April 15th 2009.

Later GRB 080319B, the "naked-eye GRB" was a signal to "open our eyes", announce G*ds 74 day training plan for the miraculous redemption coming after seven days of work completed and finished on the eighth day, Nissan 1 5769. The Rapture and other miracles occur on Ascension Day Nissan 21st 5769, April 15th 2009.

GRB 080916C is G*ds final signal and warning to people still unconvinced that King Jesus will have the last word. Located in the constellation Carina, the Lord Jesus shows us His absolute power when GRB 080916C explodes with "the greatest total energy, the fastest motions, and the highest-energy emissions" ever seen by mankind. All to remind a fallen world, that we will face an all powerful and righteous G*d in terrible judgment on 9-15-2015, Tishri 1, 5776, the Feast of Trumpets here on Earth, the PRE-WRATH RAPTURE and the Day of Gos's Wrath.

But wait, G*d is love, the lost can escape and claim a piece of the wonders of heaven. G*d is merciful and faithful, it's not too late to choose Jesus Messiah. Partake of His true love. Come witness the King who died for your sins. Celebrate with Him on Coronation Day.

On September 13, 2008, NASA's Swift detected the most distant GRB ever observed to date. Occuring three days before GRB 080916C, we find GRB 080913 represents the light and energy emitted 12.8 Billion years ago. God has had the same redemptive plan from before creation. Since there has never been a time without G*d, that was a very, very long time ago indeed.

Finding the significance of GRB 080913 remains open to interpretation. Even three short days before the pre-Wrath Rapture lost souls can still find their rest in Messiah. This might just be when a great body of Jewish leaders convert to Messiah Jesus. I'm convinced that Mark 10:33-35 applies to September 13th 2015, the Pre-wrath Rapture, when "tribulation saints ascend to Jerusalem (the New Jerusalem)"...Just as Jesus experienced G*d's Wrath when He drank from the bitter cup, so shall those that come through the Great Tribulation suffer enormously until Jesus intercedes and Raptures them home.

THE FUTURE JUBILEE YEAR

Announced Yom Kippur, Tishri 10, 5776, 9-23-2015
Begins Nisan 1, 5776, April 9, 2016

SECOND ADVENT

April 9, 2016, Nisan 1, 5776
First day of Jewish Regnal Year, Sacred Year and Jubilee Year

This April 9th, 15th, and May 29th will all show great signs and wonders with the Pre-tribulation Rapture and the colossal events drummed up by satan to control the New World Order.

My reply

Thanks much for putting all of this together. Besides this, as you already know, there will be 8 eclipses in 2014 and 2015. Four are Blood Moons, and four are Solar Eclipses. The last Solar Eclipse, on Sept. 13, 2015, will actually be on the Feast of Trumpets, Tishri 1, 5776, because it will happen after 6 PM. I think that Feast of Trumpets will be the Day of God's Wrath. If that is so, then the 2300-day Shortened Tribulation of Dan. 8:13,14 will start on Pentecost, May 29, 2009. That fits right in with a Nisan 21 Rapture on April 15.

After all that, it is astonishing to find out that the Exodus through the Red Sea and the fall of Jericho were both on Nisan 21. It looks like the Lord has marked the day with signs and types. At Jericho, Rahab was saved, and all her relatives that were in her house. Acts 16:31 says, "Believe on the Lord Jesus Christ, and thou shalt be saved, and thy house."

Seven months after the end of the shortened Tribulation, I think Jesus will return on Nisan 1, 5776 (April 9, 2016), the start of the Jubilee Year that will probably be announced on the Day of Atonement that follows the Day of God's Wrath on the Feast of Trumpets.

Don't forget that the Dow was down 777.68 (or 777.7 when rounded up) on Sept. 29, 2008. That was significant too. It looks like the 70th week of Daniel 9:27 started on October 21, 2008, the 8th day of Tabernacles, 220 days before the shortened Tribulation will start on Pentecost, May 29, 2009. Surely, we are on the home stretch now.

Jesus was the Firstfruit on the Feast of Firstfruits in 30 AD. That was the beginning of barley harvest. Ruth was a type of the Bride of our kinsman redeemer. Boaz gave her 6 measures of barley the night she lay at his feet. The date of their marriage seems to have been Nisan 21.

The barley harvest is between Firstfruits and Pentecost. There are two days during that time that could be our Rapture date, the 7th day of Unleavened Bread and Ascension Day. Since we are a kind of firstfruits, I think Nisan 21 (April 15, 2009) will be the most likely day for the Rapture. The Exodus through the Red Sea and the fall of Jericho on Nisan 21 point to April 15, 2009 too.

James 1:18 says, "Of his own will begat he us with the word of truth, that we should be a kind of firstfruits of his creatures." That seems to tie it all up in a neat package. I'm looking forward to April 15. This world is on a slippery slide to doomsday any way you look at it. I have no hankering to stay here. Besides wanting to be with Jesus, I'm tired of leaders that have nerve enough to vote for something they haven't read and others that say one thing and do another. Before long, there will be hell on Earth. Like Abraham, I desire a heavenly city.

Heb 11:15,16 says, "And truly, if they had been mindful of that country from whence they came out, they might have had opportunity to have returned. But now they desire a better country, that is, an heavenly: wherefore God is not ashamed to be called their God: for he hath prepared for them a city." Agape

Incoming e-mail, Re: Sequence of End Time Events

Thank you.

I am still confused on the sequence of the seals, trumpets and bowl judgments and which one occur during the first half of the tribulation and which ones occur during the second half.

Also, which groups (Old Testament Saints, pre-trib saints, pre-wrath saints, Jews) will have flesh and blood earthly bodies capable of procreating and which groups will have glorified bodies?

My reply

THE SEQUENCE OF SEALS, TRUMPETS AND VIALS
IN THE REVELATION OF JESUS CHRIST

By Marilyn Agee, 3-18-09

The 7 seals are broken first, the 7 trumpets come out of the 7th seal, and the 7 vials come out of the 7th trumpet.

The Revelation of Jesus Christ is a miracle play, a dramatic production to teach us things we need to know at the end of this age. The setting is 10 days before the Rapture (2:10). The Rapture is nigh in both the first and last chapters (1:3; 22:10).

Jesus is the producer and director. After the initial Introduction, Jesus tells us who he is, the Almighty, and gives us a Preview of the Pre-Trib Rapture. At that time, all 7 candlesticks, churches, are with him in Heaven. The seven star performers, the angels of the 7 churches, are still in his hand, having just been caught up.

In Rev. 1:19, Jesus tells John, here cast as the scribe, "Write the things which thou hast seen (i.e., before the Rapture), and the things which are (at the time of the Rapture), and the things which shall be hereafter" (after the Pre-Trib Rapture). This is how the whole play is organized.

After the Preview, Jesus gives his monologue, 7 messages to 7 church groups as viewed when the Rapture is just ten days future. He mentions things in their past so we can understand the group to whom he is speaking. Then he brings his comments up to our day, when the Rapture is nigh.

Revelation is written for us today. If the Rapture is to be on Nisan 21, 5769 (April 15, 2009) the 7th day of Unleavened Bread, as the Exodus through the Red Sea and the taking of Jericho (meaning his moon or month) were, Revelation's messages are extremely relevant to us right now. Israel marched around Jericho 7 times on the 7th day to suggest God giving us a city, New Jerusalem, in Heaven, the planet with 7 rings.

Zech. 3:9,10 (LXX) says, "as for the stone which I have set before the face of Jesus, on the one stone are seven eyes" (orbs, i.e., rings). Jesus' birthstone is the sapphire (Eze. 1:26-28), and it means September and dear to the planet Saturn, from the Sanskrit Sani, Saturn, and priya, dear. The brightness around the sapphire throne of the God/man Jesus Christ in Ezekiel's vision represents Saturn's rings. To Ezekiel, they looked like circular rainbows.

The Pre-Trib Rapture takes place in Rev. 4:1. Everything after that is "hereafter" the first of two Raptures. When Jesus signs off in the last chapter, the Pre-Trib Rapture is again shown to be just ahead.

Immediately after the first Rapture, we see the 24 elders (the 12 patriarchs and 12 apostles of Israel) seated on their thrones before the throne of God. Jesus, the Lamb of God, is given the 7-sealed Title Deed to the Earth. Then the raptured saints sing the new song (5:9,10).

The seals are broken first, about one per year. The fourth seal is Mid-Trib. Out of the 7th seal come the 7 trumpet judgments. They all hit Earth on the Day of God's Wrath. Out of the 7th trumpet come the 7 vials of God's Wrath. The vials give us the final effects of God's Wrath over the following 7 months (Eze. 39:12,13) that precede Christ's Second Advent, probably on Nisan 1, 5776 (April 9, 2016). The seals, trumpets and vials are given in order. Between the 6th and 7th seals, trumpets, and vials are parenthetic passages. Some other descriptions are parenthetic to catch us up to date in the sequence of events. There are match marks in each to show us where they belong in time.

THE 1260-DAY FIRST HALF OF THE TRIBULATION

Rev. 6:1,2 says, "And I saw when the Lamb opened ONE OF THE SEALS, and I heard, as it were the noise of thunder, one of the four beasts saying, Come and see. And I saw, and behold a white horse: and he that sat on him had a bow (toxon, plain fabric, showing that this man is a religious leader, a man of the cloth); and a crown was given unto him: and he went forth conquering, and to conquer."

Rev. 13:1-10 fills in more details about this religious leader, THE FIRST BEAST. It says, "I stood upon the sand of the sea, and saw a beast (the great red dragon) rise up out of the sea (people and nations (17:15, or the Pope's Holy See), having seven heads (Babel, Babylon II, Media-Persia, Greece, Roman Empire, Ecclesiastical Rome, and Babylon III) and ten horns (kings), and upon his horns ten crowns, and upon his heads (all 7) the name (one name) of blasphemy (Pontifex Maximus, started by Nimrod, Semiramis and Tammuz at the Tower of Babel, and held by all the leaders of the 7 kingdoms). And the beast which I saw was LIKE (symbolic language) unto a leopard (Greece; Dan 7:6), and his feet were as the feet of a bear (Media-Persia; Dan. 7:5), and his mouth as the mouth of a lion (Babylon; Dan. 7:4): and the dragon (Satan) gave him (the 6th head, the first beast) his power, and his seat, and great authority. And I saw one of his (the great red dragon's) heads (the 6th) as it were wounded to death; and his deadly wound was healed: and all the world wondered after the beast. And they worshipped the dragon (Satan) which gave power unto the beast: and they worshipped the beast (the man of the cloth of 6:1,2), saying, Who is like unto the beast? (the Tribulation Pontifex Maximus, a man who will not be caught up in the Pre-Trib Rapture) who is able to make war with him? And there was given unto him a mouth speaking great things and blasphemies; and power was given unto him to continue forty and two months (1260 days, the first half of the Tribulation). And he opened his mouth in blasphemy against God, to blaspheme his name, and his tabernacle, and them that dwell in heaven (the saints who were caught up in the Pre-Trib Rapture). And it was given unto him (the Tribulation Pope) to make war with the saints (the foolish virgins left behind, and the Tribulation believers), and to overcome them: and power was given him over all kindreds, and tongues, and nations (i.e., he heads up the World Church). And all that dwell upon the earth shall worship him, whose names are NOT written in the book of life of the Lamb slain from the foundation of the world. If any man have an ear, let him hear. He that leadeth into captivity shall go into captivity: he that killeth with the sword must be killed with the sword. Here is the patience and the faith of the saints."

MID-TRIB

At Mid-Trib, the second beast of Rev. 13, the False Prophet, the final Antichrist, is introduced. Rev 6:7,8 says, "And when he had opened the fourth seal, I heard the voice of the fourth beast say, Come and see. And I looked, and behold a pale (or greenish) horse: and his name that sat on him was Death, and Hell (i.e., Satan) followed with him. And power was given unto THEM over the FOURTH PART of the earth (probably centered in the Middle East), to kill with sword, and with hunger, and with death, and with the beasts of the earth."

Rev. 13:10-18 describes the False Prophet. "He that leadeth into captivity shall go into captivity: he that killeth with the sword must be killed with the sword. Here is the patience and the faith of the saints. And I beheld ANOTHER BEAST (not the same man as the first beast) coming up out of the earth (probably eretz Israel); and he had two horns (two comings to power) like a lamb (Christ), and he spake as a dragon (he will be Satan-possessed). And he exerciseth all the power of the first beast (i.e., he will be head of the world religion) before him, and causeth the earth and them which dwell therein to worship the first beast, whose deadly wound was healed. And he doeth great wonders, so that he maketh fire come down from heaven on the earth in the sight of men, And deceiveth them that dwell on the earth by the means of those miracles which he (the second beast) had power to do in the sight of the beast (the first beast); saying to them that dwell on the earth, that they should MAKE AN IMAGE (the abomination of desolation) to the beast (the first one), which had the wound by a sword, and did live. And he (the False Prophet) had power to give life unto the image of the beast, that the image of the beast should both speak, and cause that as many as would not worship the image of the beast should be killed. And he causeth all, both small and great, rich and poor, free and bond, to receive a mark in their right hand, or in their foreheads: And that no man might buy or sell, save he that had the mark, or the name of the beast, or the number of his name. Here is wisdom. Let him that hath understanding count the number of the beast: for it is the number of a man (the False Prophet); and his number is Six hundred threescore and six."

Mt 24:15,16 says, "When ye therefore shall see the abomination of desolation, spoken of by Daniel the prophet, stand in the holy place, (whoso readeth, let him understand:) Then let them which be in Judaea flee into the mountains".

During the Tribulation, those that take the Mark of the Beast cannot be saved. Rev 14:9,10 says, "If any man worship the beast and his image, and receive his mark in his forehead, or in his hand". The same shall drink of the wine of the wrath of God," It pays to know what the Bible says. If it says to run, then RUN. If it says don't do this, DON'T DO IT. Scripture is a light unto our path, even through the darkest of times. The Lord won't allow more to be put upon a believer than he can stand.

The False Prophet becomes Satan-possessed and kills Moses and Elijah. They are resurrected and ascend to Heaven after 3.5 days.

THE SHORTENED 1040-DAY GREAT TRIBULATION

Rev 6:9-11 says, "And when he had opened the FIFTH SEAL, I saw under the altar the souls of them that were slain for the word of God, and for the testimony which they held: And they cried with a loud voice, saying, HOW LONG, O Lord, holy and true, dost thou not judge and avenge our blood on them that dwell on the earth? And white robes were given unto every one of them; and it was said unto them, that they should rest yet for A LITTLE SEASON (till the end of the 1040 days), until their fellowservants also and their brethren, that should be killed as they were, should be fulfilled."

THE SIXTH SEAL AND THE DAY OF GOD'S WRATH

The Day of the Lord is one day, the Day of God's Wrath. Rev 6:12-17 says, "I beheld when he had opened the SIXTH SEAL, and, lo, there was a great earthquake; and the sun became black as sackcloth of hair, and THE MOON BECAME AS BLOOD; And the stars of heaven fell unto the earth, even as a fig tree casteth her untimely figs, when she is shaken of a mighty wind. And the heaven departed as a scroll when it is rolled together; and every mountain and island were moved out of their places. And the kings of the earth, and the great men, and the rich men, and the chief captains, and the mighty men, and every bondman, and every free man, hid themselves in the dens and in the rocks of the mountains; And said to the mountains and rocks, Fall on us, and hide us from the face of him that sitteth on the throne, and from the wrath of the Lamb: For THE GREAT DAY OF HIS WRATH IS COME; and who shall be able to stand?"

Between the arrival of the great and terrible Day of God's Wrath and the breaking of the seventh seal, the Pre-Wrath Rapture will take place (Rev. 7:9,14). Then, according to Mt 24:21, "shall be GREAT TRIBULATION, SUCH AS WAS NOT SINCE THE BEGINNING OF THE WORLD TO THIS TIME, NO, NOR EVER SHALL BE."

GOD WILL SEND SIGNS IN THE SUN AND MOON

Luke 21:25 says, "there shall be signs in the sun, and in the moon, and in the stars; and upon the earth distress of nations, with perplexity; the sea and the waves roaring".

Joel 2:31 says, "The sun shall be turned into darkness, and the moon into blood, before the great and the terrible DAY OF THE LORD come."

Mark 13:24 says, "But in those days, after that tribulation, the sun shall be darkened, and the moon shall not give her light,"

There will be four Blood Moon Lunar Eclipses and four Solar Eclipses, THE LAST ONE ON THE DAY OF GOD'S WRATH.

THE LUNAR ECLIPSE TETRAD, ALL ON FEAST DAYS

(1) 2014 Apr 15 Total Lunar eclipse (Nisan 15, 5774) Feast of Unleavened Bread
(2) 2014 Oct 08 Total Lunar eclipse (Tishri 14, 5775) Eve of Tabernacles
(3) 2015 Apr 04 Total Lunar eclipse (Nisan 15, 5775) Feast of Unleavened Bread
(4) 2015 Sep 28 Total Lunar eclipse (Tishri 15, 5776) Feast of Tabernacles

FOUR SOLAR ECLIPSES ON THE 29TH, THE LAST AFTER 6 PM, SO IT WILL ACTUALLY BE ON THE DAY OF GOD'S WRATH

(1) Apr 29, 2014 Total: (Nisan 29, 5774)
(2) Oct 23, 2014 Partial: (Tishri 29, 5775)
(3) Mar 20, 2015 Total: (Adar 29, 5775) Eve of Nisan 1, first day of Sacred Year
(4) Sept 13, 2015, Partial (Elul 29, 5776), but since it is after 6 PM, it will actually be Tishri 1, 5776, the Feast of Trumpets, Day of God's Wrath

THE SEVENTH SEAL AND SILENCE WHILE THE JUDGE IS SEATED

After the Pre-Wrath Rapture, there is silence in Heaven and Earth while Jesus is seated as Judge at the Judgment Seat of Christ in Heaven. It will be the Day of God's Wrath on Earth.

Rev 8:1 says, "And when he had opened the SEVENTH SEAL, there was SILENCE IN HEAVEN about the space of half an hour." Hab 2:20 says, "the LORD is in his holy temple: let all the earth keep SILENCE before him."

THE SEVEN TRUMPETS COME OUT OF THE SEVENTH SEAL ON THE GREAT AND TERRIBLE DAY OF THE LORD

Rev 8:2 says, "And I saw the seven angels which stood before God; and to them were given SEVEN TRUMPETS."

Rev 8:5,6 says, "And the angel took the censer, and filled it with fire of the altar, and cast it into the earth (to represent the asteroids of Rev. 8:8-11 hitting Earth): and there were voices, and thunderings, and lightnings, and an earthquake. And the seven angels which had the SEVEN TRUMPETS prepared themselves to sound."

All 7 trumpets sound on the same day, the great and terrible Day of the Lord, which is the Day of God's Wrath and the time of Jacob's trouble. There is no other day like it, ever.

Joel 2:11 And the LORD shall utter his voice before his army: for his camp is very great: for he is strong that executeth his word: for the DAY OF THE LORD is great and very terrible; and who can abide it?"

Dan 12:1 And at that time (when the False Prophet will be deposed; 11:45) shall Michael stand up, the great prince which standeth for the children of thy people: and there shall be A TIME OF TROUBLE, SUCH AS NEVER WAS since there was a nation even to that same time: and at that time (the Day of Jacob's Trouble) thy people (the 144,000 Hebrews) shall be DELIVERED (i.e., caught up in the Pre-Wrath Rapture), every one that shall be found written in the book."

Rev 14:16 says, "And he that sat on the cloud thrust in his sickle on the earth; and the earth was reaped." That is the Pre-Wrath Rapture.

Joel 1:15 says, "Alas for the day! for the DAY OF THELORD is at hand, and as a DESTRUCTION FROM THE ALMIGHTY shall it come."

Joel 2:1,2 says, "Blow ye the TRUMPET in Zion (it is the Feast of Trumpets), and sound an alarm in my holy mountain: let all the inhabitants of the land tremble: for the DAY OF THE LORD cometh, for it is nigh at hand; A DAY OF DARKNESS and of gloominess, a day of clouds and of THICK DARKNESS, as the morning spread upon the mountains: a great people and a strong (Gog's army, Eze. 38:18-20); there hath not been ever the like (i.e., not at the beginning of the Tribulation, as some say), neither shall be any more after it, even to the years of many generations."

Jer 30:7 Alas! for that day is great, so that NONE IS LIKE IT: it is even THE TIME OF JACOB'S TROUBLE, BUT HE SHALL BE SAVED OUT OF IT."

Rev 10:7 But in the days of the voice of THE SEVENTH ANGEL, when he shall begin to sound, the MYSTERY OF GOD SHOULD BE FINISHED, as he hath declared to his servants the prophets.

Rev 11:15 And the SEVENTH ANGEL SOUNDED; and there were great voices in heaven, saying, The kingdoms of this world are become the kingdoms of our Lord, and of his Christ; and he shall reign for ever and ever."

Rev 11:18 And the nations were angry, and THY WRATH IS COME, and the time of the dead, that they should be JUDGED (AT THE JUDGMENT SEAT OF CHRIST), and that thou shouldest GIVE REWARD unto thy servants the prophets, and to the saints, and them that fear thy name, small and great; AND SHOULDEST DESTROY them which destroy the earth."

THE VIALS SHOW THE ULTIMATE DESTRUCTION OVER THE 7 MONTHS BEFORE THE SECOND ADVENT

Rev 15:5-8 says, "And after that I looked, and, behold, the temple of the tabernacle of the testimony in heaven was opened: And the SEVEN ANGELS came out of the temple, having the SEVEN PLAGUES, clothed in pure and white linen, and having their breasts girded with golden girdles. And one of the four beasts GAVE UNTO THE SEVEN ANGELS SEVEN GOLDEN VIALS FULL OF THE WRATH OF GOD, who liveth for ever and ever. And the temple was filled with smoke from the glory of God, and from his power; and no man was able to enter into the temple, till the seven plagues of the seven angels were fulfilled."

> > Also, which groups (Old Testament Saints, pre-trib saints, pre-wrath saints, Jews) will have flesh and blood earthly bodies capable of procreating and which groups will have glorified bodies?

I haven't thought about that one before. All I know for sure about this is what Jesus said in Mt 22:30. Jesus said, "in the resurrection they neither marry, nor are given in marriage, but are as the angels of God in heaven."

I assume that the remnant that goes on into the Millennium will be the same as now. Agape

My reply to a post on the Five Doves site is interspersed in his and marked ***

Re: Joseph Blackmon (13 March 2009)
"CHURCH - ENOCH'S PILLAR (PYRAMID) - PENTECOST - PLANE OF ESCAPE & RAPTURE - 77 days to go"

Marilyn Agee go back to your Pentecost date of 1998

***Nisan 21, the 7th day of Unleavened Bread, now seems like a better day. Both the Exodus through the Red Sea and the fall of Jericho were on Nisan 21. Both were stupendous miracles. Jericho's wall was sloped on each side, yet it tipped outward. It's upper stones didn't just fall around a still-standing foundation. The whole thing fell over. That took God's miraculous power to accomplish. It also took God's power to make sure the northern wall did not fall along with the rest. Rahab and her family were in her house on the northern wall. Their lives were saved.

***If the Bride of Christ is the barley harvest, as suggested in Ruth, it cannot start before Firstfruits. The wheat harvest starts at Pentecost. The only two times the Rapture might be between Firstfruits and Pentecost is the 7th day of Unleavened Bread and Ascension Day.

***Ruth 1:22 (LITV) says, "Naomi returned, and Ruth the Moabitess, her daughter-in-law with her, who returned from the fields of Moab. And they came to Bethlehem AT THE BEGINNING OF BARLEY HARVEST" (i.e., on Firstfruits).

***The next day, Ruth gleaned in the field of Boaz. Maybe just the next day, Ruth lay at the feet of Boaz. The following day, he made sure than a closer kinsman did not want to take Ruth as his bride, then Boaz took Ruth as his bride. That's about the time of the 7th day of Unleavened Bread, Nisan 21. It sure didn't take 40 days (as to Ascension Day) or 50 days (as to Pentecost)..

"ONLY – 2009 – MATCHES .

WHILE ON THIS NUMBER: 29 = DEPARTURE

29TH BOOK = JOEL: TRUMPET, EARLY & LATTER RAIN,

BRIDEGROOM LEAVES CHAMBER, BRIDE LEAVES CLOSET – THE RAPTURE"

***I too think the Rapture will be in 2009, before Pentecost, when the 2300-day Tribulation of Dan. 8:13,14 begins.

2009TH BOOK = JOEL ALSO

EARLY RAIN FIRST MONTH – AS BEGINNING = PENTECOST (ACTS 2)

LATTER RAIN FIRST MONTH – AS END = PENTECOST (ISAIAH 46;10)
GOD DECLARES THE END FROM BEGINNING; CHURCH IS TYPE OF FIRSTFRUITS AND IS WAITING FOR LATTER RAIN AS SHE WAITED FOR EARLY RAIN.

(JAMES 1:17,18; JAMES 5:7,8, ZECHARIAH 10)

***The early rain, or former rain, starts Tishri 1. The latter rain starts Nisan 1 and ends Nisan 15, the first day of Unleavened Bread

***Jesus was born on Tishri 1, 5 BC, and was crucified on the preparation of the Passover, Nisan 13, 30 AD.

***He began his ministry after he was baptized in the Sabbatic Year of 26 AD. In 27 AD (the 1st Passover of his ministry), when the Temple had been under construction 46 years, he stood up in the synagogue in Nazareth and read Isa. 66:1,2, announcing that the coming year, 28 AD, was the Jubilee Year.

***Herod started building the Temple in 19/20 BC, proving that the above is correct. What throws people off is failing to recognize that Tiberius became Co-Rex in 12 AD. I found a coin, minted in 13 AD, with the head of Tiberius on one side and that of Augustus on the other side, proving that Tiberius had already begun to rule. He was the sole ruler in Judea. Augustus busied himself in other parts of his realm. Tiberius became Sole-Rex in 14 AD, when Augustus died.

***In Tiberius' 15th year, 26 AD, Jesus was baptised near his own 30th birthday, Tishri 1. His baptism might have been Tishri 10, the Day of Atonement, because that was the day a year later that he read Isa. 61:1,2 in the synagogue, when he announced the coming Jubilee Year, 28 AD.

***"27 AD was a Sabbatical year, and 28 AD a Jubilee year." www.friendsofsabbath.org/ABC/Environment%20&%20Agriculture/Jubilee%20and%20Sabbath%20Year.pdf

ENOCH Born & Raptured = PENTECOST according to Jewish Tradition

CHURCH BORN ON PENTECOST – IS THIS HER RAPTURE AS FIRSTFRUITS (James 1:17, 18) at the end of the count of the Omer: 33 A.D. + 49 count

(49x40=1960) = 1993, 50 count = 1993 to 2033 A.D. . We are in the 50th count and the resurrection will occur before sunrise: 6 p.m. = 1993, 12 a.m. = 2003, 6 a.m. = 2013, 12 p.m. = 2023, 6 p.m. = 2033 A.D.

***We are a kind of firstfruits. James 1:18 (LITV) says, "Of his own will begat he us with the word of truth, that WE SHOULD BE A KIND OF FIRSTFRUITS OF HIS CREATURES."
ENOCH = 7TH = 84 (VALUE OF NAME);
URANUS (Greek word for Heaven) = 7TH PLANET = 84 YR. ORBIT

***Josephus, a Pharisee priest, indicated that the lamps in the lampstand in the Temple stood for the Sun, Mercury, Venus, Earth, Mars, Jupiter and Saturn. In Ant. III. VI. 7, he said, "...the shaft elevated itself on high from a single base, and spread itself into as may branches as there are planets, including the sun among them". That's why the western lamp was to always be kept burning.

***Those planets are the only naked-eye planets. They knew nothing about Uranus in those days. Saturn's orbit takes about 29.5 years. It is the slowest moving of all the planets. It is still in Leo. That's perfect, because Saturn is the throne of the Lord Jesus Christ, the Lion of the Tribe of Judah. His birthstone is the sapphire (September) and it represents heaven.

***The sapphire throne in Eze. 1:26-28 is the throne of the God/man Jesus Christ. It is surrounded with 7 rings that Ezekiel saw looking like rainbows and brightness around the location of the sapphire throne.

Ruth goes into Boaz at midnight on PENTECOST (Ruth 3)

***Boaz had been winnowing BARLEY that night. That could have been the 7th day of Unleavened Bread.

Shulamite is called away by her love at PENTECOST (Song of Solomon 2:9-14)

***That passage could represent the 7th day of Unleavened Bread.

Israel given over to another king for rejecting God at PENTECOST (1 Samuel 8:5-7, 10:19, 11:15-12:25 vs.17)

***I Sam. 12:17 says, "Is it not wheat harvest to day? I will call unto the LORD, and he shall send thunder and rain; that ye may perceive and see that your wickedness is great, which ye have done in the sight of the LORD, in asking you a king."

***The wheat harvest started on Pentecost, but how does that apply to the Rapture?

29 A.D. = Beginning of Christ Ministry
33 A.D. = Presentation, Crucifixion, Burial, Resurrection and Beginning of Church

***I believe that Jesus was born in 5 BC. He died on Thursday, Nisan 13, 3790 (April 6, 30 AD) the Preparation of the Passover.

PLANE OF ESCAPE: 90 COURSES = 3-29-09 (MAY 29, 2009) = 90 = PENTECOST

***Could you explain "90 COURSES"? I don't know to what that refers.

***I think May 29, 2009, Pentecost, will be the first day of the 2300-day shortened Tribulation (Dan. 8:13,14). That period will end with the Day of God's Wrath on the Feast of Trumpets, Sept. 14, 2015.

***Rev. 17:12-14 shows that when the Rapture takes place, "they that are with him (Christ) are called, and chosen, and faithful." At that time, the 10 kings have received no kingdom as yet. The 10 kings are crowned at the beginning of the Tribulation in Rev. 13:1,2. Therefore, there is a small space between the Rapture and the beginning of the Tribulation.

***Rev 17:12-14 says, "And the ten horns which thou sawest are ten kings, which have received no kingdom as yet; but receive power as kings one hour with the beast. These have one mind, and shall give their power and strength unto the beast. These shall make war with the Lamb, and the Lamb shall overcome them: for he is Lord of lords, and King of kings: and they that are with him are called, and chosen, and faithful."

NO OTHER FEAST IS FIRSTFRUITS, BUT FIRSTFRUITS AND PENTECOST (LEVITICUS 23)

***That's true, but we are a kind of firstfruits. James 1:18 says, "Of his own will begat he us with the word of truth, that we should be A KIND OF FIRSTFRUITS of his creatures."

***Notice that Ex 23:14-17 does not mention Passover as the first of the three feasts, as we might expect. It says, "Three times thou shalt keep a feast unto me in the year. Thou shalt keep THE FEAST OF UNLEAVENED BREAD: (THOU SHALT EAT UNLEAVENED BREAD SEVEN DAYS [Nisan 15-21], as I commanded thee, in the time appointed of the month Abib (or Nisan); for in it (the Feast of Unleavened Bread) thou camest out from Egypt [they left Rameses on Nisan 15 and crossed the Red Sea on Nisan 21]: and none shall appear before me empty:) And the FEAST OF HARVEST (Pentecost), the FIRSTFRUITS of thy labours, which thou hast sown in the field: and THE FEAST OF INGATHERING (Tabernacles), which is in the end of the year, when thou hast gathered in thy labours out of the field. Three times in the year all thy males shall appear before the Lord GOD."

***Ex 13:6 says, "Seven days thou shalt eat unleavened bread, and in the seventh day shall be a feast to the LORD." Why a feast in the 7th day? I think it is because that is the day of the Pre-Trib Rapture.

ONLY – 2009 – MATCHES .

***That sure sounds good. 1967 + 42 = 2009

WHILE ON THIS NUMBER: 29 = DEPARTURE

***Thanks. I didn't know that 29 means departure.

EARLY RAIN FIRST MONTH – AS BEGINNING = PENTECOST (ACTS 2)

LATTER RAIN FIRST MONTH – AS END = PENTECOST (ISAIAH 46;10) GOD DECLARES THE END FROM BEGINNING; CHURCH IS TYPE OF FIRSTFRUITS AND IS WAITING FOR THE LATTER RAIN AS SHE WAITED FOR THE EARLY RAIN. (JAMES 1:17,18; JAMES 5:7,8, ZECHARIAH 10)

***Former rain starts Tishri 1. Latter rain starts Nisan 1 and ends Nisan 15. Jesus came as the former rain on Tishri 1. Will he come for his bride as the latter rain on Nisan 21? the last day of Unleavened Bread? It seems likely to me.

REVELATION 11, THE LAST DAY OF THE TRIBULATION BEFORE JESUS COMES – 2 WITNESSES KILLED

***I think Jesus will return on Nisan 1, 5776, the first day of the Regnal, Sacred, and Jubilee Year, Regnal because Jesus is King of Kings, Sacred because he is Lord of Lords, Jubilee because it should be the year of release if there ever was one.

NOW LET’S LOOK AT THE SOLAR-LUNAR OVERLAP MENTIONED IN PREVIOUS SECTIONS

SUN ENDS/BEGINS NEW CYCLE = April 8, 2009

Yes. That will be the last time ever that the Blessing of the Sun will fall on Passover.

MOON ENDS/ BEGINS NEW CYCLE = October 2, 2016 = End, October 3, 2016 = Begin

As you can see the is a rare 7 year (actually 7 ½ year) overlap of the sun and moon, as above, earlier

BEGINNING OF CHRIST MINISTRY: 29 A.D. – SUN = 8TH YEAR

29 A.D. – MOON = 8TH YEAR

END OF EARTHLY MINISTRY: 33 A.D. – SUN = 12TH YEAR

33 A.D. – MOON = 12TH YEAR

THE SIGN OF JONAH AGAIN: PASSOVER, UNLEAVENED BREAD & FIRSTFRUITS

THEN THE COUNTING OF THE OMER TO IT’S COMPLETION AT “PENTECOST” AT WHICH WE WILL BE RAPTURED: 5-29-2009 TO POSSIBLY 5-31-2009, BUT I DOUBT THE EXTRA 2 DAYS BECAUSE EVE WAS BROUGHT TO ADAM AT THE END OF 6 DAYS OR FRIDAY AND 5-29-09 = FRIDAY

***I think the 2300-day Shortened Tribulation will start May 29, 2009, Pentecost. It should end on the Feast of Trumpets, Sept. 14, 2015, 7 months before the Second Advent (Eze. 39:13,14).

***Since the Pre-Trib Rapture happens some time before the Tribulation starts, I am hoping for the Rapture between now and Pentecost. That is when the wheat harvest begins. Nisan 21, the 7th day of Unleavened Bread, April 15, 2009, seems to me the most likely day. I think it is when Ruth married Boaz, and that was during barley harvest, not wheat harvest.

Mt 13:29,30 refers to the Pre-Wrath Rapture. Jesus "said, Nay; lest while ye gather up the tares, ye root up also the wheat with them. Let both grow together until the harvest: and in the time of harvest (i.e., Tishri 1, the Day of God's Wrath) I will say to the reapers, Gather ye together first the tares, and bind them in bundles to burn them: but gather the wheat into my barn." Agape

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