Pro and Con 1479

Posted 3-28-09

MORE SIGNS. MT REDOUBT IN ALASKA HAS BLOWN SIX TIMES, AND THE VOLCANO BELOW, JUST OFF TONGA, IS BLOWING

Tonga undersea volcanic eruption

The Tonga undersea volcano spews ash 25000 ft in the air as it builds an island.

Incoming e-mail

Check these pics out, the devil comes down to dwell amongst us!
Chain lightening...Its amazing

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-chat/2211831/posts

March 19, 09: Tsunami warning issued after a 7.9 earthquake struck off the coast of Tonga
March 19, 2008 was the date of the largest gamma ray burster to date.

My comments

Here is the fantastic picture of "Chain lightning," probably from the Surtsey volcanic eruption. Surtsey is a volcanic island off the southern coast of Iceland.

It seems that there were undersea eruptions off Tonga for several days before March 17. I was astonished to find out that there are 36 undersea volcanoes in that area.

Here is an astonishing undersea video of the Tonga eruption: http://www.yidio.com/earth-undersea-eruption-now-in-stereo/id/1677430167

After watching that, I clicked on a video showing Cassini pictures of Saturn and got a surprise. Wow! Saturn has 60 satellites.

The Exodus, Part II - Splitting of the Sea - Passover

www.chabad.org/holidays/passover/pesach_cdo/aid/273244/jewish/The-Exodus-Part-II.htm

In the Torah reading Bo, we read how the last of the Ten Plagues finally broke the spirit of the Egyptians and, after four generations of slavery, the Children of Israel marched triumphantly out of Egypt...

Chassidic teaching explains that there are, indeed, two distinct stages to the human quest for freedom. That's why we have Bo and Beshalach. That's why we have the first and latter days of Passover. That's why we have the Exodus from Egypt and "The Exodus, Part II"--the Splitting of the Sea....

"Covenant Between the Parts" (1743 BCE)
On the 15th of Nissan of the year 2018 from creation (1743 BCE) G-d forged a special covenant with Abraham in which the destiny of the Jewish people was foretold: the Holy Land was bequeathed to them as their eternal heritage, but first they would have to experience galut--exile and persecution. "And He said to Abram: 'Know surely that your descendents shall be strangers in a land that is not theirs, and they will be enslaved to them, and they will afflict them four hundred years... and afterwards they shall come out with great wealth.' And when the sun went down and it was dark, behold, a smoking furnace and a burning torch which passed between those pieces... On that day G-d made a covenant with Abram, saying: 'To your seed I have given these land, from the river of Egypt to the great river, the River Euphrates'" (Genesis 15:13-18).

Incoming e-mail, Re: Looking Harder at April 15th (Nissan 21) and April 9th (Nissan 15th) 2009/5769

...I've found a similarity between the past acts of G*d to save and redeem His covenant people Israel. My comments appear in red. It always occur "one week after" G*d told Moses to lead the Jews out of Egypt in the Exodus! It happened again "one week after" the Lord showed Israel how to capture Jericho and G*ds promise to deliver the holyland into their hands! There are many more "one week after" events sprinkled across time where G*d makes provision for His Children.

These are Rapture "type" events that forewarn us of what we can expect on April 15th/Nissan 15th, "one week after" Passover of April 9th/Nissan 21! Right now Christians are trapped in a fallen evil world where we have no hope beyond the provision of "Jesus Christ our Blessed Hope" Just as Israel was taken out of Egypt, saved from eradication by Esther in Persia and given the Promised land when the city of Jericho was miraculously taken. In this last week of years, Israel will once again break the hammerlock the nations of the world and the Philistines / Palestinians enjoy over Israel. The entire holyland will soon be taken back miraculously by Messiah. All the while those Jesus chooses to rapture home will spend seven weeks of years with our King Jesus in the place He has built for us! All this will occur before the saints return with Him in the Millenial Kingdom of Christ Jesus! Agape

My reply

I can't see your red entries. My computer is set up for low vision. All backgrounds are cream. All type is black, except for links. I can see Bold, Italicized, underlined or sentences preceded by marks such as ***. Pictures print in normal colors....

I'm not snowed by volume sent. I'm glad to get them. I'm delighted with your research. It helps me.

> > These are Rapture "type" events that forewarn us of what we can expect on April 15th/Nissan 15th, "one week after" Passover of April 9th/Nissan 21!

I think you meant April 15th/Nissan 21, "one week after" Passover of April 9th/Nissan 15th! April 8 = Nisan 14, April 9 = Nisan 15, April 15 = Nisan 21.

I like your "one week after" research. How about Noah knowing one week before it began to rain? The Birkat Ha Chamah, the Blessing of the Sun, on the Biblical Passover (Nisan 14, April 8) seems to be a warning for us that the Rapture is approaching. Agape

Afterward, I went to Greg Killian's web site to learn more about the Birchat HaChama, and was I glad I did. Look below at what I found. I just had to capitalize this: "THE YEAR AFTER THE SHMITA YEAR...THAT IS WHEN MASHIACH COMES." It sure looks that way to me. We can now see the Tribulation approaching too.

The Blessing Of The Sun - Birchat HaChama

By Hillel ben David (Greg Killian)
http://www.betemunah.org/hachama.html#_Toc225489833

The blessing of the sun takes place in Nisan because this was the position of the sun at creation, but there is much more to the timing then meets the eye. The Talmud tells us that Nisan is the month of redemption. Not just in the past or in the future, but, EVERY Nisan contains the power of redemption:

Rosh HaShana 11a It has been taught: R. Eliezer says: In Tishri the world was created; in Tishri the Patriarchs were born; in Tishri the Patriarchs died; on Passover Isaac was born; on New Year Sarah, Rachel and Hannah were visited; on New Year Joseph went forth from prison; on New Year the bondage of our ancestors in Egypt ceased; in Nisan they were redeemed and in Nisan they will be redeemed in the time to come. R. Joshua says: In Nisan the world was created; in Nisan the Patriarchs were born; in Nisan the Patriarchs died; on Passover Isaac was born; on New Year Sarah, Rachel and Hannah were visited; on New Year Joseph went forth from prison; on New Year the bondage of our ancestors ceased in Egypt; and in Nisan they will be redeemed in time to come.

Thus it is no accident that Birchat HaChama is performed in the month of our redemption. Birchat HaChama is a part of our redemption. Redemption’s purpose is to return us to Gan Eden, to the state we had before Adam’s sin. Further, Nisan contains Pesach, the festival of our redemption, the festival that begins our journey back to Gan Eden, to the promised land!

Birchat HaChama celebrates the renewal of the sun in the same way that kiddush Levanah celebrates the renewal of the moon. Nisan celebrates the beginning of the renewal of spring, the picture of redemption. Therefore, as the path of the sun is being renewed, life on earth is being renewed.

The GRA writes in his sefer Safra D'Tzinusa: " ... one year during which redemption can come, and that is THE YEAR AFTER THE SHMITA YEAR (this year - 5768), for that is when the Chesed is revealed in the ‘mouth’ of Yesod, and THAT IS WHEN MASHIACH COMES ."

Kadosh Elyon,[14] author of Meir Enei Chachamim, wrote in his sefer that there are only three times in the 6,000 years of Jewish history, when Birchat HaChama falls on 14 Nisan. These are:

1. Prior to being redeemed from Egypt. Birchat HaChama prior to being redeemed from Egypt was Nisan 14, 2437 and on Nisan 15, 2448 at midnight Israel left Egypt. Erev Pesach, is the day that we slaughtered the god of the Egyptians (a lamb).

2. Prior to the miracle of Purim. (Birchat HaChama prior to the miracle of Purim was Nisan 14, and Rashi writes that the following year, in Adar, the miracle occurred.)[15] It is worth nothing [noting] that Mordechai and Esther were fasting on the 14th, 15th, and 16th of Nisan to prepare for Esther’s plea before King Achashverosh.

3. In the year 5769.[16] It is worth nothing [noting] that 5769 is the eighth year, the year after the Shmita.

About Nisan 14, 5769 (April 8, 2009), He writes,

"This will be last time ever and shortly afterwards, the Geulah, redemption, MUST come.”]...

In the orbit of Shabbtai

Shabbtai...(Saturn) revolves around the sun in twenty-eight years. This helps us to understand why our Baraita, on page one, mentions Saturn in relation to the twenty-eight year cycle of the sun....

The Talmud details the command to make a blessing when the sun returns to it’s place:

Berachoth 59b Our Rabbis taught: He who sees the sun at its turning point[6], the moon in its power, the planets in their orbits, and the signs of the mazzaroth in their orderly progress[7], should say: Blessed be He who has wrought the work of creation. And when [does this happen][8]? — Abaye said: Every twenty-eight years when the cycle begins again and the Nisan [Spring] equinox falls in Shabbtai... (Saturn) on the evening of Tuesday[9], going into Wednesday.

SHALL WE APPEAR BEFORE THE LORD IN HEAVEN ON NISAN 21, 5769,
AND RETURN WITH HIM ON NISAN 1, 5776?

By Marilyn Agee, posted 3-23-09

NISAN 21, SEVENTH DAY OF UNLEAVENED BREAD, "A HOLY GATHERING"

There were to be two gatherings when celebrating the Feast of Unleavened Bread. Ex 12:16,17 (LITV) says, "on the first day (Nisan 15) shall be a HOLY GATHERING, and IN THE SEVENTH DAY (Nisan 21) A HOLY GATHERING...FOR ON THIS VERY DAY (Nisan 21) I BROUGHT OUT YOUR ARMIES FROM THE LAND OF EGYPT. And you shall observe this day for your generations, a statute forever."

On Nisan 14, the Lord passed over the Israelites in Egypt, but killed the Egyptian firstborm. On Nisan 15, they congregated in Rameses, borrowed things from the Egyptians, then left with a high hand. Two days later, they camped in Succoth. By the 20th, they were trapped by Pharaoh's army by the Red Sea. The Lord put darkness between them and Pharaoh's army, and a wind blew all night. The next morning, Nisan 21, he sea was walled up on either side. The Israelites made their exodus through the Red Sea dry shod.

The Rapture sounds like the "HOLY GATHERING" on Nisan 21. Ex. 23:15 (LITV) says, "keep the Feast of Unleavened Bread. SEVEN DAYS you shall eat unleavened bread, as I have commanded you, at the set time of the month of Abib (Nisan). For in it (Nisan 15-21) you came out from Egypt, and THEY (the Raptured saints?) SHALL NOT APPEAR BEFORE ME EMPTY."

Ex 13:18 (DRB), says, "HE LED THEM ABOUT BY THE WAY OF THE DESERT, WHICH IS BY THE RED SEA: and the children of Israel WENT UP ARMED out of the land of Egypt." The arms of the Egyptians washed up on the shore after the Egyptians were drowned when the sea walls collapsed. The Israelites picked up the weapons and became an army.

I think the Lord dramatized this type of the Rapture when Israel left Egypt on Nisan 21. They crossed over and WENT UP, and we will cross over and GO UP.

After the Rapture, the saints sing the "NEW SONG" in Rev. 5:9. In the type, after the Israelites passed over to the other side, they sang a new song. De. 31:22 (LITV) says, "MOSES WROTE THIS SONG ON THAT DAY, and taught it to the sons of Israel."

Nisan 21 is also the day the Israelites went STRAIGHT UP and took the city of Jericho after circling it 7 times blowing the trumpets. When they gave a big shout, three of the walls fell down, and the Lord gave them the city. After the Rapture, we will be given a city too, New Jerusalem. At the Rapture, there will be a shout, and the trumpet of God will sound. That type is a good one too.

NISAN 1, FIRST DAY OF THE REGNAL, SACRED AND JUBILEE YEAR

Many refer to the Jubilee Year as if it begins when it is announced on Tishri 10, but how could a Jubilee YEAR begin on the TENTH DAY OF THE SEVENTH MONTH? I don't think it does. Surely, it begins the following Nisan 1, the first day of the Regnal, Sacred and Jubilee Year.

I think the Jubilee Year will be announced on the Day of Atonement, Tishri 10, 5776, and then begin the following Nisan 1. This is important, because I think we will return with Jesus at the Second Advent on Nisan 1, 5776, April 9, 2016, the first day of the Jubilee Year.

Joel 2:23 says, "Be glad then, ye children of Zion, and rejoice in the LORD your God: for he hath given you the former rain (yoreh) moderately, and he will cause to come down for you the rain, the former rain (Tishri 1-30), and the latter rain (Nisan 1-15) in the FIRST MONTH." Nisan 15 is the end of the latter rain (malkosh) and the beginning of the harvest season.

If the Second Advent is to be on Nisan 1, that is why the Tabernacle was erected on Nisan 1. Ex. 40:2 (YLT) says, "On the first day of the month, in the first month (i.e., Nisan 1), thou dost RAISE UP THE tabernacle (Mishcan, RESIDENCE) OF THE TENT OF MEETING."

Isa 16:5 (KJV)says, "And in mercy shall the throne be established: and he shall sit upon it in truth in the tabernacle of David, judging, and seeking judgment, and hasting righteousness."

Amos 9:11 says, "In that day will I raise up the tabernacle of David that is fallen, and close up the breaches thereof; and I will raise up his ruins, and I will build it as in the days of old".

Acts 15:16-19 says, "AFTER THIS I WILL RETURN, and will build again the tabernacle of David, which is fallen down; and I will build again the ruins thereof, and I will set it up: That the residue of men might seek after the Lord, and all the Gentiles, upon whom my name is called, saith the Lord, who doeth all these things. Known unto God are all his works from the beginning of the world."

Ex 23:14-17 (LITV) says, "Three times in THE YEAR you shall make a feast to Me. You shall keep the FEAST OF UNLEAVENED BREAD. SEVEN DAYS you shall eat unleavened bread (Nisan 15-21, in the FIRST MONTH), as I have commanded you, at the set time of the month of Abib (or Nisan). For in it YOU CAME OUT FROM EGYPT, AND THEY SHALL NOT APPEAR BEFORE ME EMPTY. Also the Feast of Harvest (Pentecost, Sivan 6, in the THIRD MONTH), the first fruits of your labor, of what you sow in the field (world). Also the Feast of Ingathering (Tabernacles, Tishri 15-21), AT THE END OF THE YEAR, at your gathering your work from the field."

If Tishri 15 is at the end of the year, Tishri 10 is at the end of the year. Ex 34:22 (KJV) says, "And thou shalt observe the feast of weeks, of the firstfruits of wheat harvest, and the feast of ingathering AT THE YEAR'S END."

I just stumbled upon something important on the way to looking up something else. In "Day by Day in Jewish History," Rabbi Abraham P. Bloch said, ""THE TALMUD FIXED NISAN 15 AS THE BEGINNING OF THE HARVEST SEASON AND THE END OF THE RAINY SEASON". (http://www.ou.org/about/judaism/bhyom/hebrew/nissan.htm)

Then Nisan 21 sure could be the barley harvest of the saints and the time of the Pre-Trib Rapture. It would be past the Feast of Firstfruits, the very beginning of barley harvest, and before Pentecost, the beginning of wheat harvest. Ascension Day would also be in that time slot. It too, is a possibility for the barley harvest. Jesus is the head of the Body of Christ, and he ascended 40 days after Firstfruits.

However, I think the Bride of Christ will be caught up on Nisan 21. The rest of the Body of Christ will be caught up in the Pre-Wrath Rapture on Tishri 1, just before the wrath of God is poured out on the unbelievers left on Earth at the end of the Tribulation.

James 5:7 (KJV) says, "Be patient therefore, brethren (believers), unto the coming of the Lord (i.e., at the Rapture). Behold, the husbandman waiteth for the precious fruit of the earth, and hath long patience for it, until he receive the early (rain of Tishri) and latter rain" (of Nisan 1-15). Then the Rapture could follow on Nisan 21, the very day the Israelites crossed the Red Sea dryshod. Their Exodus from Egypt could prefigure our Exodus from this world.

When Jesus ascended, Luke 9:30,31 (LITV) said, "behold, two men talked with Him (Jesus, at the Transfiguration), who were Moses and Elijah. Appearing in glory, they spoke of His EXODUS, which He was about to accomplish in Jerusalem." If his ascension was called an EXODUS, our ascension can be called an EXODUS. That ties it in beautifully with Israel's Exodus through the Red Sea on Nisan 21.

Lev. 25:8-22 "'Count off seven Sabbaths of years--seven times seven years--so that the seven Sabbaths of years amount to a period of forty-nine years. Then have the trumpet sounded everywhere on the tenth day of the SEVENTH MONTH; on the Day of Atonement sound the trumpet throughout your land. Consecrate the fiftieth YEAR and proclaim liberty throughout the land to all its inhabitants. It shall be a jubilee for you; each one of you is to return to his family property and each to his own clan. THE FIFTIETH YEAR SHALL BE A JUBILEE FOR YOU."

I think Nisan 1, 5776 will be the first day of the Jubilee Year. It should run from Nisan 1, 5776 to Nisan 1, 5777. The Six-Day War was in 5727. That year + 50 = 5777. That's a good number, since 7 means perfection and completion.

CHRIST, THE SUN OF RIGHTEOUSNESS

I knew that Christ was the "SUN OF RIGHTEOUSNESS" in Malachi 4, but I just recently learned that the Jews say a Blessing of the Sun every 28 years, and that this year, for the last time ever, the blessing will be on the true Passover, Nisan 14.

Malachi 4:1-3 says, "For, behold, the day cometh, that shall burn as an oven; and all the proud, yea, and all that do wickedly, shall be stubble: and the day that cometh shall burn them up, saith the LORD of hosts, that it shall leave them neither root nor branch. But unto you that fear my name shall the Sun of righteousness arise with healing in his wings; and ye shall go forth, and grow up as calves of the stall. And ye shall tread down the wicked; for they shall be ashes under the soles of your feet in the day that I shall do this, saith the LORD of hosts."

Incoming e-mail, Re: News on April 5th

What type of news or stories are you expecting to see or hear about when it's 10 days before the rapture?

My reply

Don't know, but a volcano in Alaska has blown 6 times and there...(is one) blowing in the sea near Tonga, where there are about 36 in the vicinity. I think the enormous biggest-ever gamma ray burst of 9-14-08 hit on 9-14 because the Day of God's Wrath will probably be on 9-14-2015, 2300 days (by inclusive reckoning) after next Pentecost, May 29, 2009. A solar eclipse is due after 6 PM on 9-13-2015, so it will be 9/14/2-15 (Tishri 1, 4776, the Feast of Trumpets) to the Jews. Agape

Incoming e-mail

You all should want to REJOICE that HE IS COMING SOON! The TRUTH, as told by Tom Gaston & Jeri.

Pastor Riley encouraged Tom to write, for us, Betty Hunt's true experience. "26. But ye believe not, because ye are not of my sheep, as I said unto you. 27. My sheep hear my voice, and I know them, and they follow me" [John 10:26-27].

Warmest regards, with the love of Christ Jesus

----- Forwarded Message ----
From: Tom

Subject: You all might want to know this! / Is this a personal "sign" ? / Tom Gaston

Hey everyone, is the following a "sign" that the Lord is AT THE DOOR?

The other night my wife Jeri and I decided to go get some "ice cream." After getting our Ice cream I told my wife "Lets go see our dear sister in the Lord Betty Hunt." Now Betty is like our "second mom." She an 83 year old lady who is a very devout Christian and close friend of ours who walks very close to the Lord. When we got to her house we rang the door bell and Betty came to the door and let us in. As always she is very very glad to see us. We both hugged her and asked her how she was doing and she said fine, but that she had something very important to share with us.

My wife Jeri and I then sat down and asked Betty to share what was on her mind. She told us that something very unusual happened to her this past week. We said "Oh, really." We asked her to share it with us. She said that she had to go to the grocery store in order to get a few things and that while she was there something very profound happened to her. She said that this event which she experienced has NEVER happened to her before. Betty is NOT one to make up stories just for sensationalism. She is very sound in bible Doctrine and would never tell something that was not true. She is very close to the Lord. She has been looking faithfully for the Lord's coming for many years now and is very anxious to get home to heaven.

Betty told us that she went down one of the grocery isles where the "Soap " was. She said her thoughts were "Oh, I better get some soap" and immediately the Lord spoke to her and the words came across her mind "you won't be needing that. " She told us then that she went down another isle and came upon another item (she doesn't remember the item) and she said "I might need this", and once again the Lord spoke to her and the words "You won't be needing that " came to her mind immediately. She said at this point she was really startled and shaken somewhat! She thought "oh my, why is the Lord telling me this?" Amazingly for the third time she was walking down another isle where the "light bulbs " were and she considered getting some, but once again the Lord spoke to her and said "You won't be needing that."

Three times the Lord told our friend Betty Hunt that "you won't be needing that." She told us that she continued to shop for groceries, but that she never her those words again while finishing her shopping. Betty was wondering if perhaps the Lord was possibly letting her know that the "Rapture" was so near that she would not be needing those certain items? I told her that she propbably didn't hear those words while shopping for food because God knew that she needed to be sustained until He comes, which I thought was a reasonable explanation. I questioned Betty very carefully and I asked her "Are you sure that you heard these words in your mind", and she said "Yes, absolutely! " So I asked her once again "have you ever experienced anything like this in all of your years as a Christian" and she said NEVER!

My wife Jeri and I were astonished at what she shared with us. I thought that I would share this amazing true story with you all.

Until He comes, Keep looking up

In Christ, Tom Gaston
Rapturetj@comcast.net

My reply

I believe it. I have a friend that heard "You will never die" when she was out on the sidewalk in front of her parent's house back in the late 60's or early 70s. Really astonishing is the fact that, at that time, she had not yet accepted Christ. She was born Catholic and didn't yet realize that each one of us has to personally accept Christ. She went to a Friends Church to see her brother baptized, then came to my house. She said she walked into that church not understanding and walked out understanding. Another lady sent me an email that she heard "You will never die." Having heard God say, "Be still and know that I am God" myself, I believe that God said that to her. I know things like this do happen.

Incoming e-mail, Re: just my thoughts

I sure hope you are right. Anyway I have found some things very interesting. In the year 2012, Shavuot and christian pentecost occur on the exact same day, Sunday May 27th. In most years they are several days apart. Then there is the Myian calendar whose last date is Dec 21st. 2012. I am believing the rapture will occur on Shavuot-Pentecost in that year. Time will tell I guess.

My reply

For sure, but why would God make his plans around the Mayan Calendar? They were worshiping Satan. Many wonder why their calendar will end Dec 21, 2012. Maybe it is because Satan will be allowed in those days to rule from within the False Prophet. Satan's calendar could have been constructed to show him about how much longer it would be until he would be allowed to inhabit the False Prophet. If so, Dec 21, 2012 should be during the reign of the False Prophet, the Great Tribulation.

These are tough times we are living in, and they will get worse. I think the world is approaching Satan's last ditch stand, starting on Nov. 8/9, 2012, Mid-Trib, when he will indwell the False Prophet, the second Son of Perdition of all time, Judas Iscariot being the first. Therefore, it is no wonder that things are already going awry.

Have you tried to fit the 2300 days of Dan 8:13,14 (the Shortened Tribulation) into our timeline? Remember that blocks of time are counted by inclusive reckoning by the Jews. Therefore, the 2300 days fit perfectly if they begin on May 29, 2009 (Pentecost) and end on Sept. 14, 2015 (the Feast of Trumpets, the Day of God's Wrath). This would put Mid-Trib on Nov. 8/9, 2012 AD.

In John 9:4, Jesus said, "I must work the works of him that sent me, while it is day: the night cometh, when no man can work. Night is darkest before the dawn, just as the Tribulation will be darkest near the end. Thank God, we have better things to look forward to than that. Agape

Research turned this up about the Mayan Calendar

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Maya_calendar

The Mesoamerican Long Count calendar forms the basis for a New Age belief, first forecast by José Argüelles, that a cataclysm will take place on or about December 21, 2012, a forecast that mainstream Mayanist scholars consider a misinterpretation, yet is commonly referenced in pop-culture media as the 2012 problem.

"For the ancient Maya, it was a huge celebration to make it to the end of a whole cycle," says Sandra Noble[12], executive director of the Foundation for the Advancement of Mesoamerican Studies, Inc. in Crystal River, Florida. "To render December 21, 2012, as a doomsday or moment of cosmic shifting", she says, is "a complete fabrication and a chance for a lot of people to cash in."

Incoming e-mail, Re: just my thoughts

I think the people in this world are trying to patch holes in a sinking ship. We as believers in Christ on the other hand are not planning on being on the ship when it sinks because we have the Lamb of God who is faithful and He will save us from that hour. Blessed be his Name.

My reply

I agree with trying to patch holes in a sinking ship. We had a good warning that the Tribulation was near last September, when the Dow was down 777.68. Round that up and it is 777.7. Seven is God's number of completion. Several sevens may signal the completion of several things, or it may just mean the completion of this age with all its events. Agape

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