Pro and Con 1480

Posted 4-8-09



"The full Moon name for this month is Full Pink Moon. This full Moon heralded the appearance of the grass pink, or wild ground phlox—one of the first spring flowers. It is also known as the Sprouting Grass Moon, the Egg Moon, and the Fish Moon."

The Full Pink Moon ties in with the flowers in Song of Solomon 2:10-14. The Fish Moon reminds me that this is Christ's month, and the fish was used as a sign of Christ by the persecuted church. It was even found on a mosaic floor of an early Christian church.

Since this is Christ's month, it seems likely that he would come for his Bride in this month. Here is Song 2:10-14 in the LITV. "My Beloved (Christ) answered and said to me, Arouse yourself, My love, My beautiful one, and COME AWAY. For, behold, the winter has passed (i.e., it is after March 21), THE RAIN HAS PASSED (i.e., then it is after Nisan 15), it goes to itself. The FLOWERS ARE SEEN ON THE EARTH; the time of singing (the Bride sings the 'new song') has come, and THE VOICE OF THE TURTLEDOVE IS HEARD IN OUR LAND (they come in April). The fig tree spices her unripe figs, and the vines give a fragrance by the blossom. ARISE, MY LOVE; COME, MY BEAUTIFUL ONE, AND COME YOURSELF. My dove, in the clefts of the rock (i.e., in Christ), in the secrecy of the steep place (i.e., the secret of the stairs, like Jacob's ladder that reached to Heaven), let Me see your form. Let Me hear your voice; for your voice is sweet, and your form is beautiful."

Incoming e-mail, Re: Wednesday being the traditional wedding day

LAST TRUMP: "Please correct me if I'm wrong, but I think that there was a thread on RITA about Jewish weddings. If I remember correctly the groom came for the bride on Tuesday night because Wednesday was the traditional wedding day."

Therefore, does it seem more likely that the Rapture would take place on a Tuesday night?

My comment

It seems likely.

Incoming e-mail, Re: Wow, Wow, Wow

Imagine the blockbuster that God has planned for us; we are going to be witness to the wildest fireworks celebration of all time! It had already begun with the mighty GRB's of last year. Thinking on my puny human scale, I thought that we would have to wait until Passover April 9th to see the massive detonations. Apparently, King Jesus has decided that He wants to get the WORD out!

April 3rd has been punctuated by at least four new GRB's which nearly out did the previous one day record of five! March 19th and September 15th/16th 2008!

We just had the most annointed Palm Sunday service in our new little startup church; Eaglebrook Church, Minocqua Wisconsin....

I do hope we can meet someday very soon Marilyn. What wonders we'll see!

My reply

Thanks for your news.

"NASA's Fermi sees largest gamma-ray burst"
by William Atkins on Sat Feb 21, 2009

"NASA reported on February 19, 2009 that its Fermi Gamma-ray Space Telescope saw the first gamma-ray burst ever seen in high resolution. But, the big news is that the GRB is the largest ever recorded, having the "greatest total energy, the fastest motions and the highest energy initial emissions ever seen....GRB 080916C"



By Marilyn Agee

In "Time-line of the end," By Newton2012, ( it says, "The high Illumined ideal of rebuilding the Temple of Jerusalem is connected to the Great pyramid. ITS HEIGHT 5776 DIVIDED BY "6" EQUALS THE YEAR OF DEDICATION OF THE FIRST TEMPLE BUILT BY SOLOMON IN 962.6 BC. THE GREAT PYRAMID'S PERIMETER IS EXACTLY THE SAME NUMBER IN FEET AS BIBLICAL YEARS BETWEEN 962.6 BC AND 2016 AD"

In "DIMENSIONS of Great Pyramid," by Morphvs ( it also gives the calculated height as 5776 inches, which is exactly 280 royal cubits."

"The projected height (including capstone) that Petrie surveyed is 5776 inches (+/- 7 inches). The current height (with capstone missing) is 5388 inches (see Petrie"s book)." (

"Height of the Great Pyramid (calculated with its capstone, now missing) 5,776 inches." (

Other figures can be found, but 5776 inches just may be the correct one.

5776 - 7 YEARS = 5769 (2008/2009), THE YEAR OF THE PRE-TRIB RAPTURE?

The Jewish 5776 is an all important year. It is when I expect the Day of God's Wrath on Tishri 1 (Sept. 14, 2015), and when I expect the Second Advent and the beginning of the Jubilee Year on Nisan 1 (April 9, 2016).

It looks to me like the 70th week of Daniel 9:27 started Oct. 21, 2008. That was the 8th day of Tabernacles. The 2300-day shortened Tribulation seems to run from next Pentecost, May 29, 2009, to the Feast of Trumpets, Tishri 1, 5776 (Sept. 14, 2015).

There are good reasons to expect Jesus to come for his bride on the same date and day of the week as the Exodus through the Red Sea. This would put the Rapture on Wed., Nisan 21, 5776, the 7th day of Unleavened Bread, April 15, 2009.


At Jericho, on the 7th day, the Israelites circled the city 7 times, and 7 priests blew 7 trumpets. Then when the people gave a great shout, the wall fell down, and the people went up into the city.

Last September, we had some signs emphasizing the 7. On Sept. 16, we had the greatest Gamma Ray Burst ever to call our attention to that time. The Dow closed down 777.7 ON THE EVE OF TRUMPETS (Sept. 29, 2008) AND a $700,000,000,000 stimulus package passed Congress ON THE 2ND DAY OF TRUMPETS.

Exodus 12:16 shows that the first and last days of the Feast of Unleavened Bread are holy convocations. Miqra qodesh (or, mikra kodesh), means "holy convocation, sacred called out meeting." It comes from Strong's #4744 miqra, "a called out public meeting (the act, the persons, or the place), A REHEARSAL, assembly, convocation, reading," derived from mi, "from, out of," and #7121 qara, meaning "called"; and Strong's #6944 qodesh, "a sacred place or thing, consecrated, dedicated, hallowed, holiness, sanctuary."

No work is allowed on holy convocation days. In Leviticus 23:7, Nisan 15, first day of the Feast of Unleavened Bread, is an holy convocation. Verse 8 shows that Nisan 21, the seventh day of the Feast, is also a holy convocation. Wouldn't that date this year be a great day for the Rapture? It is THE SAME DATE, AND SAME DAY OF THE WEEK, AS THE ISRAELITE'S EXODUS THROUGH THE RED SEA.

Also, after Joshua had led the Israelites through the Jordan River dry shod on Nisan 10, they blew trumpets and shouted at Jericho to show that Nisan 21 is a day of shouting and trumpets. That can fit the Rapture. The shofar is to be blown on all feast days. This alone is a good reason for us to think that the Rapture will come on a feast day.

When reading Jewish writings, keep in mind that the Jews call Nisan 14 the Eve of Passover, but Lev. 23:5,6 makes it clear that Nisan 14 is the Passover. It says, "In the first month, on the fourteenth of the month, between the evenings is the Passover to Jehovah. And on the fifteenth of this month is the Feast of Unleavened Bread to Jehovah; you shall eat unleavened things seven days." (Emphasis throughout is mine)

In the blessing of the Sun at sunrise on Nisan 14, 5769 (April 8, 2009), the Jews will say, "Blessed are You, LORD, our God, King of the Universe who makes the works of Creation". No doubt, we will say something similar at the Rapture.

In "Kabbalistic Information" (, Eva Ariela Lindberg said, "In the Kabbalistic tradition it is said that IF ISRAEL KEEPS TWO CONSECUTIVE “SHABBATOT" THEN THE GEULA (MESSIANIC TIMES) WILL COME!"

I don't know how they came by that information, but it seems to fit our days.

(1) April 8, 1953 (23 Nisan, 5713)
(2) April 8, 1981 (4 Nisan, 5741)
(3) April 8, 2009 (14 Nisan, 5769)

At (, Dr. Julian Schamroth said, "Birkat HaChama will always fall on the year after a sabbatical year." That's interesting too; 5768 was a Sabbatical Year.

"THUS WE MIGHT EXPECT MASHIACH BEN DAVID THIS YEAR" From "The Blessing Of The Sun - Birchat HaChama," By Hillel ben David (Greg Killian) (

"IF PESACH 5769 FALLS ON THE SAME DAY OF THE WEEK AS THE THE PESACH OF THE EXODUS (and he says it does), then we will also have other festivals that are on the same day of the week as they were in the days of the Exodus:

"The first day of Pesach will will be on the same weekday as Tisha B’Av.
"The second day of Pesach will be on the same weekday as Shavuot.
"The third day of Pesach will be on the same weekday as the following Rosh HaShanah, Succoth, and Shemini Atzeret.
"The fourth day of Pesach will fall on the same weekday as the following Simchat Torah.
"The fifth day of Pesach will fall on the same weekday as the following Yom HaKippurim.
"The sixth day of Pesach will fall on the same weekday as the preceeding Purim.


"The year 5768 is a Shmita (sabbatical) year, and is followed by 5769 (2009), the year in which we recite Birchat HaChama....

"Other Erev Pesach Events...

"Mordecai and the Jews fast for the second day. Esther 4:16...

"April 8, 2009
"Nisan 14, 5769 – Erev Pesach
" Year 12 of the 19 year cycle - Normal (i.e., no Adar II)...

"As the sun and moon were created on the 4th day, the beginning of the twenty-eight year cycle is always on a Wednesday which begins at the vernal equinox at 6 p.m. on Tuesday. THIS, ACCORDING TO COMPUTATION COINCIDES WITH THE RISE OF SATURN, v. Rashi.


On April 6, the anniversary of the Crucifixion, the Moon will be near Saturn in Leo, which stands for Jesus as the great king, the Lion of the tribe of Judah. Regulus, the King Star, will form a triangle with Saturn and the Moon in Leo.

"The Talmud (Brachot 59b) teaches:

He who sees the sun at its season, the moon at its strength, the stars in their paths, and the constellations in their order, recites "Blessed is the One Who performs the act of creation." And when does this happen? Abaye says: Every 28 years, when the cycle returns AND THE SEASON OF NISSAN FALLS IN SATURN, on the fourth day of the week."

"6 PM, Wednesday = SATURN (the first star created) at hour 1 (or 6:00 PM). It will take 28 years for Nissan to return to being on Wednesday at 6 PM."


"The year 5768 is a Shmita (sabbatical) year, and is followed by 5769 (2009), the year in which we recite Birchat HaChama.


"One full turn of the 19 year Hebrew calendar...comes to a completion in the spring, Nisan 15, 5769 (April 9, 2009). It so happens that the 28 year cycle of the Birchat HaChama, the blessing of the Sun is celebrated at sunrise on April 8, 2009 (Nisan 14, 5769). This is when the sun according to the Talmudic sages returns exactly to the place it was in relation to the earth, when it was created....

"In the year 5769 (2009), the 206th cycle of the sun will be complete, and in the Nisan of that year, we will have the privilege once again of saying the blessing on the Sun. May it come to us and all Israel for good!


I sure hope so. I think this is the year of the Rapture, because the Birchat HaChama will be on the same date and day of the week as the Exodus through the Red Sea, Wednesday, Nisan 21 (April 15, 2009). The Jews even claim that day is when Saturn is rising. What day could be a better type of our Exodus from this Earth to our "third heaven" Paradise, Saturn?

In II Cor. 12:2-4, Paul said, "I knew a man in Christ above fourteen years ago, (whether in the body, I cannot tell; or whether out of the body, I cannot tell: God knoweth;) such an one (Paul himself) CAUGHT UP TO THE THIRD HEAVEN. And I knew such a man, (whether in the body, or out of the body, I cannot tell: God knoweth;) How that he was caught up into PARADISE, and heard unspeakable words, which it is not lawful for a man to utter."

We will be given a city, New Jerusalem, and Nisan 21 is also the date Jericho was given to Joshua and the Israelites. Also, Nisan 21 is probably when Ruth was taken into Boaz' house as his bride.

The following is a good description of how the date of the Birchat HaChama is figured.

"Once Every 28 Years: Blessing On The Sun"
By Hillel Fendel

"( Though the sun is some 400 times larger than the moon, a blessing over the latter is made nearly 350 times more often than over the former. This coming month will see that rare occasion when the Blessing Over the Sun is recited.

"Jewish Law stipulates that a special blessing is to be recited when we see the sun at the same place and on the same day of the week as when it was created. The first chapter in Genesis, which tells the story of Creation, tells us that the sun was created on a Wednesday. Precisely one solar year, or 365.25 days later, the sun was in the same place – but not on the same day of the week, nor at the same time of day, but rather six hours (a quarter of a day) later. The “quarter-day” problem is solved every four years, and the “same day of the week” issue is resolved every seven years – and both problems are solved simultaneously only once every 28 (4x7) years.

"This year marks the culmination of a 28-year-cycle since Creation (5769-1= 5768 = 28x206). Thus...on Wednesday, April. 8, the sun will be in the same position, on the same day of the week and the same approximate hour, as it was when it was created. This “starting position” actually occurs the previous evening, but we recite the blessing over the sun to mark this anniversary only when it is visible – that is, the next morning."

"Here Comes the Sun"
by Rabbi Yirmiyahu Ullman -

"One of the great Chassidic Masters, Rabbi Meir Yechiel HaLevi of Ostrovtza (1852-1928), noted the significance of such an occurrence by comparing it to two other such instances: Passover and Purim. On Erev Pesach of the Exodus, on the day the Jews were preparing for redemption and G-d was preparing the overthrow of their enemies, the solar cycle of Creation was renewed. Similarly, in the Purim story, the 13th, 14th and 15th of Nisan, when the Jews were fasting, repenting and making themselves worthy of redemption and G-d was orchestrating the turnabout, was also a year in which the cycle was renewed on Erev Pesach. So too, he wrote long ago, WHEN IN THE FUTURE BIRKAT HACHAMA OCCURS ON THE EVE OF PASSOVER, THE COMPLETE AND FINAL REDEMPTION OF ISRAEL IS NOT LONG TO FOLLOW (Me’ir Einei Chachamim, p. 52)."

Back to the pyramid. A bright capstone made of metal-alloy sheets was to have been placed on the pyramid by a helicopter on New Year's Eve 1998 at the suggestion of Dr. Zahi Hawass, Under-secretary of State for the Giza Monuments.

The ceremony was canceled when links to the Masons and a prophecy by Edgar Cayce were linked to it. On New Year's Eve 1998, the thick fog would have made the capping by helicopter impossible anyway.

The pyramid still has no capstone. It may be because Psalm 118:22 says, "The stone which the builders refused is become the head stone of the corner." In Mark 12:10, Jesus said, "And have ye not read this scripture; The stone which the builders rejected is become the head of the corner". Luke 20:17 says, "And he beheld them, and said, What is this then that is written, The stone which the builders rejected, the same is become the head of the corner?"

We know that Christ is the head stone the builders refused. Symbolically, he will become the head stone of the back corner of the Tabernacle. Literally, he will become the King of kings over the Earth, which was represented by the back corner of the Tabernacle.

The 10 widths of the Tabernacle had cherubim embroidered on them. Standing inside the Tabernacle, and looking up, one would see the cherubim that represented the planets overhead. They stood for the 10 original planets, (1) Mercury, (2) Venus, (3) Earth, (4) Mars, (5) Satan's planet Rahab, which was split apart and is now our Asteroid Belt, (6) Jupiter, (7) Saturn, (8) Uranus, (9) Neptune and (10) Pluto. The width of fabric covering the Tabernacle that represented Earth was draped over the back corner of the Tabernacle. Two and a half widths hung down the back. Thus, in 5776, it looks like the stone which the builders refused (Christ) will become the head stone of the corner (Earth).

The height of the pyramid with the capstone seems to have been expected to be 5776 inches. That is remarkable, because I think Christ, the headstone of the corner, will return to Earth as King of kings in the 7th month of 5776 (Nisan 1, 5776, our April 9, 2016). That is when the Jubilee Year should begin. It will follow 5775, a Sabbatic Year (that divides by 7 equally).

Genesis 3:24 says, "So he drove out the man; and he placed at the east of the garden of Eden (i.e., in the eastern sky) Cherubims (Mars, Jupiter and Saturn), and a flaming sword (NEA, Near-Earth Asteroid) which turned every way (rotated and orbited), to keep the way of (or to) the tree of life" (which is now in the third heaven, which I think is Saturn).

Josephus indicated that the 7-branched lampstand in the Temple stood for the Sun, Mercury, Venus, Earth, Mars, Jupiter and Saturn. Thus, Mars, Jupiter and Saturn were pictured as being east of the Earth. The western lamp was to always be kept burning, because it depicted the Sun.

2 Cor. 12:2-4 ties in. Paul said, "I knew a man (Paul himself) in Christ above fourteen years ago, (whether in the body, I cannot tell; or whether out of the body, I cannot tell: God knoweth;) such an one caught up to the THIRD HEAVEN ([1] Mars, [2] Jupiter, [3] Saturn). And I knew such a man, (whether in the body, or out of the body, I cannot tell: God knoweth;) How that he was caught up into PARADISE (i.e., Saturn, the third Heaven), and heard unspeakable words, which it is not lawful for a man to utter."

I sure hope Nisan 21, 5769 (April 15, 2009) will be the date of the Pre-Trib Rapture, and Tishri 1, 5776 (Sept. 14, 2015) will be the date of the Pre-Wrath Rapture.

Incoming e-mail

When will Russia and all those Arab countries attack Israel ? It's the battle that's written in Ezekiel 38 and 39 . I hope you got it this time April 26 , If not we'll wait for the next possibility . Keep up the good work . You give hope to the masses . Your fellow watcher , Daniel Dobbs

My reply, Re: Our 7-day warning

I think the Eze. 38:18-20 war will take place on the Feast of Trumpets, 9-14-2015, the last day of the 2300-day Shortened Tribulation of Dan. 8:13,14. There will be a solar eclipse after 6 PM on 9-13-2015. To the Jews, that will be on the Feast of Trumpets, Tishri 1, 5776, which I think is the Day of God's Wrath. The second Rapture, the Pre-Wrath Rapture, should take place that day. See Rev. 6:1 to 8:1-3.

The Pre-Trib Rapture seems to be almost upon us, probably Nisan 21, the 7th day of Unleavened Bread, April 15, 2009. The Exodus through the Red Sea was on Nisan 21, and this year, on the same day of the week, Tuesday.

The Jews will recite the Blessing of the Sun on next Wednesday, April 8, 2009. They bless the Lord on Wednesday for creating the Sun on that day. This only happens on Wed. every 28 years, and this year is the last year it will take place on Nisan 14, Passover. That Blessing of the Sun seems to be our 7 day warning, as Noah received 7 days before it began to rain. Agape


2014 Apr 15 Total (Nisan 16, 5774) FEAST OF FIRSTFRUITS
2014 Oct 8 Total (Tishri 15, 5775) FEAST OF TABERNACLES
2015 Apr 4 Total (Nisan 15, 5775) FEAST OF UNLEAVENED BREAD
2015 Sept 28 Total (Tishri 15, 5776) FEAST OF TABERNACLES


Apr 29, 2014 Total: (Nisan 29, 5774)
Oct 23, 2014 Partial: (Tishri 29, 5775)
Mar 20, 2015 Total: (Adar 29, 5775), EVE OF NISAN 1, FIRST DAY OF SACRED YR

TRUMPETS: "the Lord God shall blow the trumpet, and shall go with whirlwinds of the south," Zechariah 9:14

Incoming e-mail, Re: 70th Week

Here are a few of my thoughts-----
The Old Testament is about Israel and how God picked a people to be different from the world. He showed them how He wanted to be worshipped and He told them that He would give them their own land. He also told them that after they entered the land that they were to let the land rest for one year every seventh year. God has said that He does not change and Israel is back in the land but their unbelief has kept them from letting the land rest every seven years.

Now here is my thought----
I believe that the seven year tribulation is related to the idea of a period of land rest for Israel. If this is true then the land should rest after 49 years. (1 rest year for every 7). Now, 49 years after what? Obviously it did not happen 49 years after 1948 but then in 1948 Israel did not get all of the land promised to them. In fact, for a moment in 1967 Israel had all the land that was promised. They thought at that time that they could not possibly keep all that land, so they in unbelief, gave most of it back to their enemies. However God's timeclock keeps on ticking. Maybe it started ticking in 1967 instead of 1948. We won't know for sure until it is all over but we can calculate that Israel will have been back in some of the land that was promised to them for 61 years counting from 1948, and back in the land for 42 years from 1967.

I believe that the 7 year tribulation has something to do with being in the land 49 years and is a consequence for not letting the land rest. After 49 years the land should have rested for 7 years. Remember, God said, "I change not". Israel would have a 7 year debt of "rest" years after 49 years of being in the land. Since 1967 was the year that Israel "gave back" most of the land that was won in 1967, maybe the clock started ticking from 1967 instead of 1948.

If so, here is my idea:
The following list is a list of years added to 1967 that Israel SHOULD have trusted God and done as He had commanded about letting the land rest every 7th year. So let's start from 1967.

-------------------------------------- 1967+
6 years in the land + 1 year of rest---1974
6 years in the land + 1 year of rest---1981
6 years in the land + 1 year of rest---1988
6 years in the land + 1 year of rest---1995
6 years in the land + 1 year of rest---2002
6 years in the land + 1 year of rest---2009
6 years in the land + 1 year of rest---2016

Here is my premise, in 2016 Israel will owe God seven years of rest. What a perfect year for them to want 7 years of peace! And in the middle of the week the "peace" will shockingly come to an abrupt end when the antichrist declares himself to be God.

Could it be that 2016 is the year that the tribulation starts when Israel realizes that they have chalked up a debt to God for their unpaid years of rest for the land? Could it also be that the 7 year peace treaty would be considered by Israel to be an opportunity to pay this debt. One can't REST without PEACE.
Seems to me that the true believing Church will leave before the year 2016. The Tribulation is about Israel and the world----NOT ABOUT THE BRIDE!

My reply

This fits when I think the Jubilee will start, Nisan 1, 5776, April 9, 2016. Agape

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