Pro and Con 1489

Posted 5-18-08

Incoming e-mail, Re: 2018 Year of Return - 42 Generations

I know you will probably disagree with me, however I think 2018 will be the year when Jesus returns, I believe His return will be 42 generations from the year of his birth, the same amount of generations from Abraham to Jesus (42 generations) 42 x 48.13 years for a generation, from 3BC takes us to 2018 - which some also argue is a Jubilee year. Cheers

My reply

I think Jesus was born in 5 BC. Thus, 2016 fits.

A Jubilee Year has to follow a Sabbatic Year. 5775 is a Sabbatic Year. Therefore, 5776 (2015/2016) could be the Jubilee Year. Agape

Incoming e-mail, Re: (Jubilee)

...I thought you may find this of interest

http://webwaydrive.com/2028/Jubilee%20Year%20Revelation.htm

Thanks

My reply

The "Jubilee Year Revelation" was interesting to read. I agree with some things and disagree with others (see below).

A Jubilee cycle is 49 years, and the Jubilee has to follow a Sabbatic Year. The 49th year is Sabbatic. Suppose a new count started at the Six-Day War in 1967. 1967 + 49 = 2016 (5727 + 49 = 5776).

"Jubilee Year Revelation"
http://webwaydrive.com:80/2028/Jubilee%20Year%20Revelation.htm

"According to William Whiston's footnotes in his 1737 A.D. English translation of Josephus’ writings, 24 B.C. was a Sabbath year and 23 B.C. was a year of Jubilee. These were also years of great famine in Judea and Syria. We know how scholar’s interpretations of Josephus’ accounts are less than perfect, or Josephus himself is in error, so we need to be cautious. If his report was accurate and the Jews are correct in their belief, then the next Jubilee year from that date would have been 28 A.D."...

On this, I agree.

"So a year of Jubilee begins on the first of Nisan, is proclaimed midway through the year on the Day of Atonement, and ends at the start of a new year in the month of Nisan....

On this, I agree.

"We know for certain with all of our work, that no one knows the day or the hour, and nothing could be truer than these words. But you should know by now, without a shadow of a doubt, that Jesus is returning to rule the nations in the autumn of the year 2028 A.D. Of that you can be absolutely sure!"

On this, I disagree. I am expecting Christ to return on Nisan 1, 5776 (April 9, 2016). Agape

Incoming e-mail, Re: 10-day period

I was wondering whether you had read the e-mail that I sent you with a question about the 10-day window speculation that you had proposed in several earlier postings over the last ten years. Do you still think that there is a 10-day window during which our Lord brings in the Wise Virgins? – or was that a speculation that you no longer see fitting in with your latest ideas?

Thanks for the willingness to brainstorm on this topic.

Yours in Christ Jesus our Lord

My reply

The reason I think Pentecost has a better chance of being the day of the Rapture is because the trump of God sounds at the Rapture. A trumpet sounds on Pentecost, but not on Ascension Day.

Another thing crosses my mind. On Ascension Day, the Lord was seen as he left. On Pentecost, he returned invisibly. He said that he would never leave us. Heb 13:5 says, "Let your conversation be without covetousness; and be content with such things as ye have: for he hath said, I will never leave thee, nor forsake thee."

At the Rapture, he will not be seen by those on Earth. We will meet him in the clouds.

Since two will be sleeping in one bed, and one will be taken, the other left, it seems that the Rapture will take place in a short time. We should soon know. Agape

Incoming e-mail, Re: 10-day period in relation to the coming of Christ

Glory to Jesus Christ! Glory forever!

I have been reading your website since early in 1998, and I sent you the information earlier regarding the Holy Light that appears in Jerusalem on Holy Saturday. I was reading your latest post and remembered that at several times in the past you had suggested that a ten-day window of some type was somehow associated with the coming of Christ Jesus. When I remembered that, I looked on our Orthodox Christian calendar. I counted 10 days from Great and Holy Pascha (“Easter”) -- April 27th-- and came to Wednesday, May 7th. When I noticed the festal commemoration on that day, I was amazed. That day is the commemoration of a very important sign in the heavens that appeared over Jerusalem in the year 351. Please note that in the year in which this marvel appeared, it was the Holy Feast of Pentecost. Here is a brief description:

Commemoration of the Precious Cross that appeared in the sky over Jerusalem in 351 A.D. -- May 7

On this day in the year 351, not long after Cyril had succeeded Maximus as Archbishop of Jerusalem, during the reign of Constantius, the son of Saint Constantine the Great, on the day of Pentecost, the sign of the Cross appeared over Jerusalem. Saint Cyril, in his letter to the Emperor Constantius, says, At about the third hour of the day, an enormous Cross, formed of light, appeared in the heaven above holy Golgotha and reaching to the holy Mount of Olives. being seen not by one or two only, but manifest with perfect clarity to the whole multitude of the city; not, as one might suppose, rushing swiftly past in fancy, but seen openly above the earth many hours in plain sight, and overcoming the beams of the sun with its dazzling rays" (PG 33:1 16q).

Apolytikion (“hymn of commemoration”) in the First Tone

The image of Thy Cross at this time shone brighter than the sun, when Thou didst spread it out from the holy Mount of Olives to Calvary; and in making plain Thy might which is therein, O saviour Thou didst also thereby strengthen the faithful. Keep us always in peace, by the intercessions of the Theotokos, O Christ our God, and save us.

Kontakion (“hymn sung during the odes”) in the Fourth Tone

Making its rays to shine above in the heavens, the spotless Cross dawned on the earth, bright with splendor; for it had opened Heaven, which was shut of old. Granted the effulgence of its divine operation, we are surely guided to the un-waning resplendence. In battles we possess it as a true weapon of peace and a trophy invincible.

[from: http://www.goarch.org/en/chapel/saints.asp?contentid=43]

Whether this means anything, only God knows; but it seemed to be a thrilling “coincidence.”

Maranatha, Lord Jesus!
With love in Christ Jesus, our LORD and GOD,
I remain, Sincerely

My reply

> > I counted 10 days from Great and Holy Pascha (“Easter”) -- April 27th-- and came to Wednesday, May 7th. When I noticed the festal commemoration on that day, I was amazed. That day is the commemoration of a very important sign in the heavens that appeared over Jerusalem in the year 351. Please note that in the year in which this marvel appeared, it was the Holy Feast of Pentecost.

It was on Pentecost, that's fantastic. Thanks much. I'm thrilled to the core.

> > Making its rays to shine above in the heavens, the spotless Cross dawned on the earth, bright with splendor; for it had opened Heaven, which was shut of old.

"IT HAD OPENED HEAVEN". Wow!

May God bless you richly. Agape

Incoming e-mail, RE: 10-day period in relation to the coming of Christ

Glory to Jesus Christ! Glory forever!

Thank you for your detailed research. Your thoughtful investigation of this “sign” in the heavens also has implications for the many other signs that our good Lord sends His faithful people (as a warning for complacency or as an encouragement in times of persecution). Having grown up in the Protestant tradition, I never heard about or was taught about the many signs that God has sent over the centuries – I think that my pastors and teachers were of the mind that such things might become idolatrous or would incite superstitious feelings. Quite the contrary, I find them to be affirmations of all the signs and wonders that God did for the Israelites in the Old Testament, and of the signs and miracles that He worked during His three years of public ministry, and of the GREAT miracle that He wrought in His destruction of Hades and the power of Death, and of our salvation through His glorious resurrection.

I had also noted that your earlier outline of possible events included a “coincidental” concurrence of “the day of God’s Wrath” and our Orthodox Christian “Feast of the Exaltation of the Holy Cross” (September 14). How fitting that the “ensign of victory and triumph” (as we Orthodox hymn the Cross) may very well appear as a supersensual celestial event that heralds the end of Satan’s revolt and the consummation of Christ God’s work of salvation – THE DAY (as it is hymned) of the LORD.

May God have mercy on us and keep us until the Day of His Advent (and may it be soon—3 days!!).

Maranatha, Lord Jesus Christ!

Sincerely, Yours in Christ Jesus, our Lord and God

My previous reply, Re: 10-day period in relation to the coming of Christ

I can't remember if it got posted or not, so here it is to make sure.

Thanks much for your interesting information about the miracle of 351 AD.

After reading many items on that subject, my search brought up about the miracle cross of light with a rainbow around it that sat over Jerusalem from Golgotha (by that time in the Church of the Holy Sepulcher) to the Mt. of Olives for several hours following 9 AM on May 7, 351 AD (Pentecost), I wondered why a sign was given at that particular time and date. It may have been what we now call a Sun dog, but the Lord surely controlled it. What Sun dog ever lasted several hours? The Lord mentioned his bow (the rainbow) after Noah left the Ark, so these things may be signs.

I found two good reasons for the time of 351. Julian was trying to replace Christianity with paganism, and the Arian controversy was going on. That bright cross that appeared over Jerusalem was generally thought to be a refute to Arianism. People rushed to the Church of the Holy Sepulcher to affirm their faith in Christ. Prior to 313 AD, when Constantine issued the Edict of Toleration, Christians had been killed by the thousands. In 303, Diocletian had ordered that all Christians were to be persecuted. There was to be no going back to that. The Edict of Toleration in 312 gave legal rights to Christians and restored their confiscated property.

The change seems to have started Oct. 26, 312, the eve of a great battle for control of the western empire. Constantine won after he and his soldiers saw a cross of light beneath the Sun and the words "In hoc signo vinces," In this sign conquer. They saw it in the sky near mid-day, as the Sun began to decline. Later, when Constantine was asleep, both Christ and the sign he had seen in the sky appeared to him. He was told to fashion a likeness to the sign and use it as protection in the war. He did and afterward defeated Maxentius (who was killed) at the Battle of Milvian Bridge. No wonder Constantine condidered that victory as confirmation of the vision.

In 313, when Constantine issued the Edict of Toleration/Edict of Milan, both Constantine and Licinius, Emperors of the East and West Roman Empire, lifted the ban on Christianity. Also in 313, Constantine convened the First Ecumenical Council of Nicaea that established the Nicene Creed as the fundamental statement of Christian faith. The Council of Nicaea condemned Arianism, but that controversy was still going on until 381 or 383.

"First Ecumenical Council held in Nikaia called by Constantine to resolve dispute of Alexandrian priest Arius and his Bishop on the nature of the divinity of Christ; Arianism is the belief that Christ was a created being and thus not fully divine. Constantius, Constantine's son, supported Arius and the government did not renounce the heresy until 381"

(http://www.emabonn.de/schueler/detailgr.htm)

Constantine defeated Licinius in 323 and became sole Emperor. He, like other Emperors, became the supposed representative of God and earth and was made head of the Christian church. I'm not sure at just what point he became a sincere Christian, but he was baptized shortly before his death.

In 330, St. Peter's Basilica was built in Rome. The Church of the Holy Sepulcher in Jerusalem was dedicated in 335.

Arius, founder of the widespread and divisive Arian heresy, died the next year, but Arianism was still alive in 351, when Julian, Constantius¹ cousin, tried to replace Christianity with paganism. That won him the title of Julian the Apostate in 360.

"The Arian controversy describes several controversies which divided the Christian church from before the Council of Nicaea in 325 to after the Council of Constantinople in 383. The most important of these controversies concerned the relationship between the Creator and Logos, or between God the Father and God the Son." (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arian_controversy)

In 337, Constantine died. His three sons, Constantine II, Constantius II and Constans, became rulers.

At 9 AM in 351 AD, the great luminous cross was seen over Golgotha on Pentecost. "Philostorgius and the Alexandrian chronicle affirm, that this cross of light was encircled with a large rainbow."

(http://bibleprobe.com:80/cyrilofjerusalem.htm)

Bishop Cyril wrote the emperor about the miracle. After describing it, he said, "The whole city, penetrated alike with awe and with joy at this portent, ran immediately to the church, all with one voice giving praise to our Lord Jesus Christ, the only Son of God." He ended his letter with wishes "that the emperor may always glorify the holy and consubstantial Trinity." The faithful considered the miracle a sign that victory over Arianism was coming, and it probably was. Church historians Socrates, Sozomen, Theophanes, Eutychius, John of Nice, and Glycas also wrote about it.

Some soldiers that saw the cross in the sky were frightened of what it might mean. It inspired Constantius and his army with invincible bravery, but it scared Magnentius and his partisans, because they were superstitious.

"The first year of Cyril's episcopate was rendered memorable by the appearance, May 7, 351, of a remarkable parhelion, or other atmospheric phenomenon, over Jerusalem, which was regarded as a miraculous manifestation of the symbol of redemption intended to establish the faith and confute gainsayers, and produced great excitement in the city. The churches were thronged with worshippers, and many Jews and Gentiles were converted to the faith." (http://en.wikisource.org/wiki)

Parhelion is a bright spot that sometimes appears on either side of the sun, often on a luminous halo. White parhelia are believed to form from light that is reflected off of atmospheric ice crystals; colored parhelia are believed to form from light that is refracted by atmospheric ice crystals. Multiple parhelia can often be seen at the same time. An anthelion (meaning opposite the sun) is a rare optical phenomenon appearing on the parhelic circle opposite to the Sun.

Wikipedia says, "A sun dog or sundog (scientific name parhelion, plural parhelia, i.e. "beside the sun") is a common bright circular spot on a solar halo. It is an atmospheric optical phenomenon primarily associated with the reflection or refraction of sunlight by small ice crystals making up cirrus or cirrostratus clouds. Often, two or more sundogs can be seen on opposite sides of the sun simultaneously."

Britannica says that parhelion is "also called Mock Sun, or Sun Dog, atmospheric optical phenomenon appearing in the sky as luminous spots 22° on each side of the Sun and at the same elevation as the Sun. Usually, the edges closest to the Sun will appear reddish. Other colours are occasionally visible, but more often the outer portions of each spot appear whitish."

Th miraculous cross of 351 must have also been seen by people outside of Jerusalem. "Gallus (Caesar) arrived in Antioch on May 7, 351. Socrates (Hist. eccl. 2.28.2) says his adventus was marked by the appearance of a cross in the sky." (http://www.roman-emperors.org:80/gallus.htm)

The miraculous sign in the sky does seem to have helped the Christian cause. In 356, Constantius II closed all the pagan temples. The Roman emperor Theodosius ordered the burning of all non-Christian books in 391.

In 353, the Roman Empire divided into Eastern and Western sections. This was made permanent in 395.

By 363, Valens was co-Emperor in the East. He was considered an unpopular Arian heretic and faced constant revolts.

By 367, the earliest known list of the New Testament canon in its current form was published in the Festal Epistle of St. Athanasius.

In 380 to 392: Christianity was declared the official state religion by Emperor Theodosius I. He imposed a ban on all non-Christian religions, except Judaism and the kindred religion of the Samaritans.

In 381, Theodosius I convened the Second Ecumenical Council. Constantius supported Arius and finally renounced the heresy that year.

In 393, the Olympic games were stopped by Theodosius, because they were considered pagan. Up till then, the games had been held every four years.

Something similar happened Sept. 14, 1925. That date could be important too. Sept 14, 2015, Tishri 1, 5776 (LY) is the date I think the Day of God's Wrath will fall on. The cross seen in 351 was on May 7, which was Pentecost.

We should stay alert to signs in the sky now. Luke 21:25-28 says, "there shall be signs in the sun, and in the moon, and in the stars; and upon the earth distress of nations, with perplexity; the sea and the waves roaring; Men's hearts failing them for fear, and for looking after those things which are coming on the earth: for the powers of heaven shall be shaken. And then shall they see the Son of man coming in a cloud with power and great glory. And when these things begin to come to pass, then look up, and lift up your heads; for your redemption draweth nigh."

"The Miracle of the Cross in the Sky"

http://www.rationalresponders.com:80/forum/sapient/atheist_vs_theist/10375

"In 1925, on the eve, of the feast of the Exaltation of the All-Honourable and Life-giving Cross of our Saviour, 14 September according to the Orthodox Church calendar, the all-night vigil was served at the church of St. John the Theologian in suburban Athens. By 9 o'clock that evening, more than 2,000 of the true-Orthodox faithful had gathered in and around the church for the service, since very few true-Orthodox churches had been accidentally left open by the civil authorities....Around eleven P.M. the authorities dispatched a battalion of police to the church 'to prevent any disorders which might arise from such a large gathering.' The gathering was too large for the police to take any direct action or to arrest the priest at that time and so they joined the crowd of worshippers in the already over-flowing courtyard of the church.

"Then, regardless of the true motives for their presence, against their own will, but according to the Will which exceeds all human power, they became participants in the miraculous experience of the crowd of believers.

"At 11:30 P.M., there began to appear in the heavens above the church, in the direction of North-East, a bright, radiant Cross of light. The light not only illuminated the church and the faithful but, in its rays, the stars of the clear, cloudless sky became dim and the church-yard was filled with an almost tangible light. The form of the Cross itself was an especially dense light and it could be clearly seen as a Byzantine cross with an angular cross bar toward the bottom. This heavenly miracle lasted for half an hour, until midnight, and then the Cross began slowly to raise up vertically, as the cross in the hands of the priest does in the ceremony of the Elevation of the Cross in church. Having come straight up, the Cross began gradually to fade away.

"The human language is not adequate to convey what took place during the apparition. The entire crowd fell prostrate upon the ground with tears and began to sing prayers, praising the Lord with one heart and one mouth. The police were among those who wept, suddenly discovering, in the depths of their hearts, a childlike faith. The crowd of believers and the battalion of police were transformed into one, unified flock of faithful. All were seized with a holy ecstasy....

"Many of the unbelievers, sophists and renovationists, realizing their sin and guilt, but unwilling to repent, tried by every means to explain away or deny this miracle. The fact that the form of the cross had been so sharply and clearly that of the Byzantine (sometimes called the Russian Cross) Cross, with three cross-bars, the bottom one at an angle, completely negated any arguments of accidental physical phenomenon.

"The fact that such an apparition of the Cross had also occurred during the height of the first great heresy must strike the Orthodox with an especial sense of the magnitude of the importance of the calendar question and of all that is connected with it. No sensible person can discuss this issue lightly, with secular reasoning or with worldly arguments. Renovationists, like the Arians in 351, are left without extenuation or mitigation." (Orthodox Life, March-April, 1972, pp. 18-20)

Below are two eyewitness Accounts of the Appearance of the Cross over the Church of St. John the Theologian at Mt. Hymettus, September 14, 1925.

"I was one of the men from the Police Institute who were sent to stop the vigil that night, some fifty years ago, at the country Church of St. John the Theologian.

"The Old Calendarists were keeping vigil there, because it was the eve of the feast of the Exaltation of the Precious Cross (according to the Church Calendar, not the papist! —ed.)

"Since many people had gathered - more than two thousand individuals - we did not attempt to seize the priest as we had been ordered, but we sat down quietly in the nearby court and waited for them to finish.

"At about 11:30 at night, we heard a loud and strange uproar coming from the shouts of the multitude. Without any delay, we ran to see what was happening - and we saw. The whole multitude of the faithful was in a state of excitement. Some were weeping and others, crying out “Lord, have mercy,” were kneeling and had turned their eyes toward heaven, and yet others were fainting, overwhelmed with great emotion. Then we too looked and beheld the marvel: an enormous radian Cross, very high above the church was illumining the whole area. At first, we were seized with fear, but immediately we came to ourselves and, forgetting the purpose for which we had been sent, we fell to our knees and wept like little children.

"Of course, it is superfluous for me to tell you that, filled with emotion, we attended the rest of the vigil to the end - no longer as persecutors, but as faithful Christians." (John D. Glymis, Retired Police Officer, 78 years of age 73 Aristotle Street, Peristeri ( a suburb of Athens).

Another witness said, "On that night in 1925 when the Precious Cross appeared, I was making the last run with the tram which I was operating. I had reached Omonoia and was going around the square when I saw everyone looking up toward heaven and crying, “Look! - the Cross! - the Cross!” Immediately I stepped on the brakes and stopped the vehicle. I stuck my head out the tram’s door and I, the unworthy one, also saw the Precious Cross of Our Lord - may His Name be glorified; it was shining over Mount Hymettus. I don’t remember how long this lasted. I know only one thing - the Precious Cross which I saw the night turned me into a different man. Since then, everyone in my family has become a faithful child of the Church of the True Orthodox Christians." (Athanasios Primals, Retired Tram Conductor, 80 years of age, 17 Kavales Street, Nicea (a suburb of Athens)

We must get ready, confessing our sins to God (I John 1:9) and keep on watching. Other signs may happen before the Rapture. We live in exciting times.

My reply, 5-17-09

Thank you for keeping me posted. You have added much to what I have come up with. Two heads are better than one.

God bless you. Agape

Incoming e-mail, Re: link to video of a Muslim visited by Jesus Christ

This link was sent to me by a brother priest.

If you have a few minutes, please watch this video testimony of a devout Muslim, named Afshin, a member of Hezbollah, who found Jesus Christ (or rather, to whom Jesus came in his hour of heartfelt need)!

It is a testimony that rings so true, and reveals the way that our loving God works to bring every soul to salvation and peace, to the knowledge of Him, and joy.

Glory to Jesus Christ! Glory forever!
Sincerely

click on the link:
http://www.muslimjourneytohope.com/testimonies/testimony_afshin.wmv

My reply

Thanks. I am glad I listened to this video. I know firsthand how the enemy can just about kill you. I was in bed, was attacked and couldn't breath. I was suffocating. I couldn't say anything. I was totally paralysed, so in my mind, I kept yelling, "Jesus make them stop." Finally, they did stop, and I have never been attacked like that again. I must have passed some kind of test. Agape

Incoming e-mail, Re: New calendar for the Great Tribulation?

Shalom dear sister Marilyn,

I’ve been reading your site and pros and cons since 1996, and I can feel the heart of the Father in your words. God bless you and keep you from all evil.

I was wondering if concerning seasons and schedules, the anti-Christ, revealing himself on that day, making the sacrifice to cease , and trying to copy the Lord Jesus, would make the calendar starts again, and counting the time after him, establishing the day 01/01/00, when the great tribulation begins?

That could give us other clues understanding dates, including the believe that December/2012 our calendar would stop!

My reply

May God bless you too. The False Prophet will try to change times and laws, but in the end, I think the Judgment Seat of Christ will sit on the Feast of Trumpets, according to the Jewish Calendar.

Dan 7:25,26 says, "And he shall speak great words against the most High, and shall wear out the saints of the most High, and think to change times and laws: and they shall be given into his hand until a time and times and the dividing of time (i.e., 3.5 years). But the judgment shall sit, and they shall take away his dominion, to consume and to destroy it unto the end."

Maybe the end of the Mayan Calendar will turn out to mark about when the False Prophet will become Satan-possessed. I think Mid-Trib will come Nov. 8/9, 2012, and the Mayan Calendar ends Dec. 21, 2012. That's close.
Shalom

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