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Posted 12-1-09

Will the Third Temple be built next year?

Nov 30, 2009

According to a centuries-old rabbinical prophecy that appears to be coming true, on March 16, 2010, Israel will begin construction of the Third Temple in Jerusalem.

During the 18th century, the Vilna Gaon, a respected rabbinical authority, prophesied that the Hurva Synagoge in Jerusalem, which was built during his day, would be destroyed and rebuilt twice, and that when the Hurva was completed for the third time, construction on the Third Temple would begin....

The building (3rd Hurva Synagogue) is scheduled to be completed and the Hurva Synagogue dedicated for the third time on March 15 of next year.

Yom Teruah

How the Day of Shouting Became Rosh Hashanah
by Nehemia Gordon


“And you shall pass a shofar of blasting in the Seventh Month on the tenth of the month; on the Day of Atonement you shall pass a shofar throughout all your land.” (Lev 25:9)

This verse is saying that a shofar should be used TO ANNOUNCE THE ARRIVAL OF THE JUBILEE YEAR, the 50th year in the Sabbatical system. IT DOES NOT SAY THAT THE JUBILEE BEGINS ON THE DAY OF ATONEMENT only that the impending arrival of the Jubilee year is announced on the Day of Atonement. Indeed THE SHOFAR MAY BE PASSED THROUGH THE LAND ON YOM KIPPUR OF THE 49TH YEAR, SIX MONTHS BEFORE THE BEGINNING OF THE COMING JUBILEE year. This interpretation is supported by the immediate context in Leviticus 25. Verse 8 says to count forty nine years, verse 9 says to pass the shofar throughout the land, and verse 10 says to proclaim the 50th year as the Jubilee. This shows that the shofar announcing the coming Jubilee in verse 9 is passed through the land before the Jubilee is actually proclaimed in verse 10.

The Rapture and Pets Going to Heaven

...Beginning August 2005 Jesus gave me a vision or an open vision. Not only could I see what he was showing me but I could also feel everything.

I saw a lot of people being taken to heaven, I myself felt like someone was grabbing me around the waist and in a moment I went thru the roof of my house.

My thoughts in that moment were unreal. It was so great. I did not feel going thru the sealing....

After that I started warning the Christians, all churches, everyone I could get an internet address from I started writing to. Austria, Switzerland and Germany. Some people were happy to hear what I said and others did not leave me very nice messages....

In the next few months after this I was allowed to hear the angel choir 4 more times. As I was walking my dog around 10 pm, until May 27, 2009 we still lived in Emsland, North Germany. It was a very quiet community. Very few cars, especially around this time there really were no cars. This place was almost like a vacation destination. As I was walking I suddenly felt like I was in a Concert hall, from all sides I could hear the most beautiful angel choir singing. Shaking I went home, because hearing the angels sing from heaven this loud, made my longing for his coming even greater. I asked, Father, when are you coming to take me home and hold me in your arms.

On September 12, 2007 I saw the rapture once more. This was such a great joy to me I cant even explain, there are no words for it. The Lord even told me with all his mercy that my little dog would come to heaven as well. Jeshua did not tell me that my dog was going too ruptured, but he did say that he was coming to heaven with me. Hearing this brothers and sisters, rejoice if you have pets for they will spend eternity with you in heaven....

I heard a really loud noise. It went thru my whole body, bone and marrow. The sky got so light as if I was looking into the sun. Then I saw Jeshua in heaven surrounded by many angels. I heard that noise one more time and then I lost the floor under my feet. Not fast, slowly was the trip to the Lord. I guess it went slow so that I could see how wonderful and peaceful this trip to heaven would be. That was not all; I saw the spirit of the Lord coming from heaven as a person....

Please also read the vision of an older lady from Norwegen. Also read the warning by Pastor Matutis regarding the swine flu, children of God, and wake up, it is the last hour.

In his love, Veronica Ulrike Barthel, Maranatha

New Red Heifer Being Raised

Mamonides, the Jewish Sage, said that in the days of the tenth red heifer the Messiah would come. (This is the tenth.)

As of May, 2006, Irvin Baxter Jr. of End Times Ministries reports that the Jews have a red heifer, born 3½ years ago in Jerusalem (among the cattle born in and imported from Mississippi). If it does not get disqualified like the previous red heifer candidates reported over the past years (such as "Melody"), it could mean that one more obstacle to the construction of the Third Temple is gone. Irvin said that the that according to Chaim Richmond of the Temple Institute who is driving force behind it, the red heifer was ready to be offered up in Jerusalem....

Although Baxter reported that it had to be 3 YEARS OLD, THERE IS NO SUCH REQUIREMENT FOUND IN THE BIBLE....

Possible End Times Sign?
Supposedly there have only been nine red heifers in Israel's history. This new red heifer then would be the tenth. Mamonides, the Jewish Sage, said that in the days of the tenth red heifer the Messiah would come.

Irvin Baxter believes that the reason the Sanhedrin announced their plans to rebuild the temple was because of this red heifer in their possession.

Plotting the Exit Strategy

End times' religious groups want apocalypse sooner than later, and they're relying on high tech -- and red heifers -- to hasten its arrival.

By Louis Sahagun, June 22, 2006
For thousands of years, prophets have predicted the end of the world. Today, various religious groups, using the latest technology, are trying to hasten it.

Their endgame is to speed the promised arrival of a messiah....

Then there is Clyde Lott, a Mississippi revivalist preacher and cattle rancher. He is trying to raise a unique herd of red heifers to satisfy an obscure injunction in the Book of Numbers: the sacrifice of a blemish-free red heifer for purification rituals needed to pave the way for the messiah.

So far, ONLY ONE OF HIS COWS HAS BEEN VERIFIED BY RABBIS AS WORTHY, meaning they failed to turn up even three white or black hairs on the animal's body.

The Red Heifer

...According to tradition, the Second Temple, like the First, was destroyed at the conclusion of Shabbat - on a Saturday night....

The Levites saw that Jerusalem and the Temple Mount would stand desolate for nearly two milenia... but they would be regathered by Israel once again on a Wednesday: Wednesday, June 7th, 1967 was the day they saw. This day could be considered the first step towards the rebuilding of the Holy Temple.


God says that the month of 'Tishri' is the 'seventh month' of 'His' year:

Leviticus 23:24
"On the 'first day' of the 'seventh month' you are to have a day of rest, a sacred assembly commemorated with trumpet blasts." (This is the 'Feast of Trumpets' on Tishri 1, each year.)

Therefore, the 'first month' of God's year is the month of 'Nissan'. So therefore, the 'first day' of Nissan is 'New Years Day' and the 'year change' on 'His Calendar'.

Therefore, September 19, 2009 - which was also Tishri 1 - was NOT the first day (New Years Day) of the 'Year 5770'. The first day (New Years Day) of the 'Year 5770' was either the proceeding Nissan 1, or will be the next Nissan 1.

We should be calculating and identifying 'God's Years' from Nissan 1 to Nissan 1, NOT from Tishri 1 to Tishri 1.

Are we really in the year 5770 or 5771 ? YBIC

My reply

> > Are we really in the year 5770 or 5771 ?

We are in 5770, Tishri 1, 5770 to Tishri 1, 5771.

> > the 'first day' of Nissan is 'New Years Day' and the 'year change' on 'His Calendar'

Like our fiscal year, the Sacred Year, which is the ecclesiastical year, starts Nisan 1, 5770 and will end Nisan 1, 5771.

Today's Jewish Calendar is regulated by the Civil New Year Day (NYD) of Tishri, and that is when the year number is increased. From Tishri 1 to Nisan 1 is normally 6 months, but it is 7 months in leap years.

When I studied the birth of Jesus, I studied how to construct the Jewish Calendar. To set it, they figure out mathematically when the NYD of the NEXT YEAR will be, then fit one of their six types of years into the gap. Three months, Cheshvan, Kislev, and Adar I can have 29 or 30 days. The days of the other months do not vary. They alternate from 29 to 30 days. Nisan has 30 days.

The number of days between Passover and the Feast of Trumpets never varies. Days start at 6 PM, not midnight. Also, the first four feasts must always be in the spring. If not, they add Adar II to keep them in the spring. There must be Abib barley at Firstfruits.

They use a 19-year cycle. The current cycle began Tishri 1, 5758 (October 2, 1997). Thus, 5776 will be year 1 of a new cycle.

There are three types of regular years and 3 types of leap years. In their 19-year cycle, the leap years with Adar II are the 3rd, 6th, 8th, 11th, 14th, 17th and 19th years.

A deficient year has 353, or 383 days in a LY.
A regular year has 354, or 384 days in a LY.
A complete year has 355, or 385 days in a LY.

In 358/359 AD, the patriarch Hillel II finally published the secrets of calendar making. How long ago the Sanhedrin worked out the arithmetic, I don't know, but they had been using it a long time to double check what they figured when they sighted the new crescent Moon. There is a good chance that they figured out the mathmatics while in exile in Babylon. The Sanhedrin compared the sighting of the new crescent Moon and the mathematical calculations to set the calendar for the coming year.

Today, Tishri 1 can differ from the Moon sighting by 1 or 2 days. For instance, last September, the Calendar said that Tishri 1 was Sept. 19, but the new crescent Moon was sighted after 6 PM Sept. 20. Then Tishri 1 should have been Sept. 21. That two-day shift would apply all the rest of this year. NYD, Tishri 1, sets the calendar for the whole year.

It seems that the weeks and days of the week have been kept correctly from the beginning.

There are a few other rules of postponment. The Day of Atonement cannot be adjacent to a Sabbath. Therefore, Tishri 10 can't be on Friday or Sunday. Tishri 21 can't be on Saturday. The New Year can't start on Sunday, Wednesday or Friday. NYD is delayed one day if the new Moon is calculated to be after noon.

The present Jewish Calendar dates from 3761 BC. The Jews call 3761 BC creation, but the actual creation was much earlier than that. I wonder if they used Monday, Oct. 7, 3761 BC (Julian day 347995.5) because they knew how to figure out the years by arithmetic from the New Moon of Tishri that year. It is very simple once you have a list of calculations for 1 year, 100 years, etc. Long term, the Jewish Calendar is the most accurate.

Four months are named in the Old Testament, the first month Abib (lit., tender, but used to represent first-ripe barley), the second month Ziv (lit., light), the seventh month Ethanim (lit., strong), and the eighth month Bul (lit., eighth). Abib is now Nisan. Ziv is now Iyar. Ethanim is now Tishri. Bul is now Cheshvan.

To find the correct date of Tishri according to the Moon, visit Michael Rood's web site:

His reply

Thanks, Marilyn

Incoming e-mail, Re: AFTER two years

Joseph did NOT reveal himself in the 2nd year of the Famine Week, as you say in your response. He CLEARLY reveals himself. AFTER two years, and when there is yet FIVE (not six) YEARS LEFT IN THE FAMINE WEEK. I very strongly believe that the Rapture will be between Sept. and Dec. of 2010. Maranatha!

My reply

They were still in the second year. The five years had not yet started.

Gen 45:6 (KJV) says, "For THESE TWO YEARS hath the famine been in the land: and YET there are five years, in the which there shall neither be earing nor harvest."

Bishops Bible is clear. It says, "For THIS IS THE SECOND YERE of dearth in the lande, and fiue more are behinde, in the whiche there shall neyther be earyng nor haruest."

Have you heard about the bell ringing, drum and gong beating, at 3 PM on Dec. 13, 2009? What is this really? Is the enemy trying to drown out the shout of the Lord, the voice of the archangel and the trump of God? Does he know the actual date?

Churches around the world are to ring their bells 350 time on Dec. 13

"GENEVA — The World Council of Churches on Thursday called on churches around the world to ring their bells 350 times during the Copenhagen climate change summit on December 13 as a call to action on global warming.

"The leading council of Christian and Orthodox churches also invited places of worship for other faiths to join a symbolic "chain of chimes and prayers" stretching around the world from the international date line in the South Pacific.

"On that SUNDAY, midway through the UN summit, the WCC invites churches around the world to use their BELLS, DRUMS, GONGS or whatever their tradition offers to call people to prayer and action in the face of climate change,"

According to Rev. 1:9, the Rapture will be on the Lord's Day, Sunday. Dec. 13 will be on Sunday.

The second Rapture will be on the Day of the Lord, the Day of God's Wrath, but the first Rapture will be on Sunday.

1Th 4:16,17 says, "For the Lord himself shall descend from heaven with a shout, with the voice of the archangel, and with the trump of God: and the dead in Christ shall rise first: Then we which are alive and remain shall be caught up together with them in the clouds, to meet the Lord in the air: and so shall we ever be with the Lord."

"Noah Troyer was an Amish minister, born in 1831. Troyer became ill, causing him to have repeated periods of unconsciousness, during which time he would stand and prophesy. He spoke almost the same basic message over and over again, someone counted 19 times. His wife called friends and family members to witness what he was saying. There was even secular newspaper coverage of the phenomenon. Basically, the message was that just as with Noah before the flood, God was warning him, also Noah, that HE WAS GIVING AMERICA 120 YEARS TO REPENT BEFORE IT WILL BE DESTROYED. These words were spoken by Noah Troyer in 1878." [Jim Bramlett (USAF ret.) (] []

It looks like this 120 years began when the first Zionist Congress met in 1897. Since the 120 years is a block of time, it should be figured using Inclusive Reckoning. 1897 would be year 1. Adding another 119 years brings us to 2016 for the outer limit. 5657 + 119 = 5776. That works. Since the year of Christ's return will probably be a Jubilee Year, it must follow a Sabbatic Year, and 5775 is a Sabbatic Year. It divides by 7 evenly. I think the Second Advent will be Nisan 1, 5776, the first day of the Jubilee Year that will be announced on the previous Day of Atonement. That will probably follow the Day of God's Wrath on Tishri 1, 5776. That year is a leap year, so there will be 7 months between the Gog and Magog War and the Second Advent, according to Eze. 38:18-20; 39:12,13. The 120 years ties this all up in a neat package. Agape

His reply

We certainly do not have long to wait to see if you are correct, that the Rapture will be in Dec. of this year. I pray that you are right. Maranatha!

My reply to a post on the Five Doves site

Re: Eliane B (1 Dec 2009)
"To Bill Griese - Re: "Revelation 11:15-18""

> > I agree that the Judgment Seat of Christ will take place after the 7th Trumpet is blown. That’s when the Title Deed of the Earth will be fully open and Jesus will finally take possession of what He has redeemed (paid the price for) about 2 thousand years ago.

We have to be careful not to confuse seals with trumpets. The 7 trumpets come out of the 7th seal. When the 7th seal is broken, the Title Deed of the Earth is open. A lot happens on that one day, the first day of His Kingdom.

Rev 8:1,2 says, "And when he had opened the seventh SEAL, there was silence in HEAVEN about the space of half an hour. And I saw the seven angels which stood before God (Jesus, all judgment is given to the Son); and to them were given SEVEN TRUMPETS." Hab 2:20 says, "But the LORD is in his holy temple: let all the EARTH keep silence before him."

I think the respectful silence of Heaven and Earth is when Jesus is seated as judge at the Judgment Seat of Christ. At that point, he is already in possession of his kingdom, but he has not yet purged it of evil. Only after he is seated as judge are the 7 angels given the 7 trumpets of judgment. All 7 sound on that day. Things happen so fast that day, it is hard to sort them out.

Rev 11:15-19 says, "And the seventh angel sounded; and there were great voices in heaven, saying, The kingdoms of this world are become the kingdoms of our Lord, and of his Christ; and he shall reign for ever and ever. And the four and twenty elders, which sat before God on their seats, fell upon their faces, and worshipped God, Saying, We give thee thanks, O Lord God Almighty, which art (on the Day of God's Wrath), and wast (at 1st Advent), and art to come (2nd Advent is 7 months after this); because thou hast (past tense) taken to thee thy great power, and HAST REIGNED. And the nations were angry, and THY WRATH IS COME, and the time of the dead, that they should be JUDGED, and that thou shouldest give REWARD unto thy servants the prophets, and to the saints, and them that fear thy name, small and great; and shouldest DESTROY them which destroy the earth. And the temple of God was opened in heaven, and there was seen in his temple the ark of his testament (with 2 stone tablets in it): and there were lightnings, and voices, and thunderings, and an earthquake (worldwide, Eze. 38:20), and great hail," (God's wrath, when two asteroids hit Earth). Agape

My reply to a post on the Five Doves site

Re: David Whelan (30 Nov 2009)
"TWO raptures, His Bride different from His Body?! Need Your help, Doves!!!"

> > He who overcomes, I will make him a pillar in the temple of My God, and he shall go out no more.

There are two Raptures, one for each pillar in the Temple. The pillars are called Jachin (He will establish, i.e., 1st Rapture) and Boaz (fleetness, i.e., 2nd Rapture).

Of Solomon's Temple, 1Ki 7:21 says, "And he set up the pillars in the PORCH of the temple: and he set up the right pillar, and called the name thereof JACHIN: and he set up the left pillar, and called the name thereof BOAZ".

John 10:22,23,27,28 says, "And it was at Jerusalem the FEAST OF THE DEDICATION (Hanukkah), and it was winter. And Jesus walked in the temple in Solomon's PORCH.... MY SHEEP HEAR MY VOICE, and I know them, and THEY FOLLOW ME: And I give unto them eternal life and they shall never perish, neither shall any man pluck them out of my hand."

This seems to show when the first Rapture could take place, at the Feast of Dedication, Hanukkah, but Mt. 24:20 shows that this time, it will not be winter. It says, "But pray ye that your flight be NOT IN THE WINTER, NEITHER ON THE SABBATH DAY" (Saturday).

This year, according to the sighting of the new crescent Moon, Hanukkah will start SUNDAY, Dec. 13, before winter comes on Dec. 21. I hope Dec. 13 will be the First-Trump Rapture.

Rev 3:10-12 says, "Because thou hast kept the word of my patience, I also will keep thee from the hour of temptation, which shall come upon all the world, to try them that dwell upon the earth. Behold, I come quickly: hold that fast which thou hast, that no man take thy crown. HIM THAT OVERCOMETH WILL I MAKE A PILLAR IN THE TEMPLE of my God, and he shall go no more out: and I will write upon him the name of my God, and the name of the city of my God, which is new Jerusalem".

I Thess 4:16,17 describes the First-Trump Rapture of the wise virgins, the Bride of Christ. These are caught up to Heaven in Rev. 4:1. They witness Christ being given the 7 sealed Title Deed of the Earth. Then they sing the NEW SONG in Rev. 5:9.

I Cor 15:51,52 describes the Last-Trump Rapture of the foolish virgins, the 144,000 Israelites and other Tribulation saints. Of these, only the 144,000 will be added to the Bride group.

Rev 7:14 says, "These are they which came out of GREAT TRIBULATION, and have washed their robes, and made them white in the blood of the Lamb" (i.e., they confessed their sins, as in I John 1:9)

Speaking of these Tribulation saints, Rev. 14:2-5 says, "I heard a VOICE from heaven, as the voice of many waters, and as THE VOICE OF A GREAT THUNDER: and I heard the voice of harpers harping with their harps: And they sung as it were a NEW SONG before the throne, and before the four beasts, and the elders: and NO MAN COULD LEARN THAT SONG BUT THE HUNDRED AND FORTY AND FOUR THOUSAND, which were redeemed from the earth. These are they which were not defiled with women; for they are VIRGINS. These are they which follow the Lamb whithersoever he goeth. These were redeemed from among men, being the FIRSTFRUITS unto God and to the Lamb. And in their mouth was found no guile: for they are WITHOUT FAULT before the throne of God."

Of the saints in Heaven, Psa 149:1,5-9 says, "Praise ye the LORD. Sing unto the LORD a NEW SONG, and his praise in the congregation of saints....Let the saints be joyful in glory (i.e., in Heaven): let them sing aloud upon their beds. Let the high praises of God be in their mouth, and a twoedged sword in their hand; To execute vengeance upon the heathen, and punishments upon the people; To bind their kings with chains, and their nobles with fetters of iron; To execute upon them the judgment written: THIS HONOUR HAVE ALL HIS SAINTS. Praise ye the LORD."

The First-Trump Rapture will take place before the first seal is broken on the Title Deed of the Earth. The Last-Trump Rapture will take place on the Day of God's Wrath (Rev. 6:17), but before his wrath hits Earth (Rev. 8:8-11).

The first Rapture will take place on "the Lord's day", Sunday (Rev. 1:9). The last Rapture will take place on the Day of the Lord that is also the Day of God's Wrath.

Referring to the first group, the Bride of Christ, Rev 1:9-11 says, "I John, who also am your brother, and companion in tribulation, and in the kingdom and patience of Jesus Christ, was in the isle that is called Patmos (meaning mortal), for the word of God, and for the testimony of Jesus Christ. I was (lit., became) in the Spirit on the LORD'S DAY, and heard behind me a great voice, as of a trumpet, Saying, I am Alpha and Omega, the first and the last". John was caught up to Heaven on Sunday.

Since Mt. 24:20 says, "pray that YOUR flight may not be in winter or on the Sabbath" (Saturday), our Rapture just might be Sunday, Dec. 13, 2009, the first day of Hanukkah according to the sighting of the crescent Moon. Winter won't come until Dec. 21.

If the Rapture would be on Hanukkah next year, it would fall on the 25th of Kislev, 5771, Thursday, 2 December 2010. Even if it would be 2 days later, according to the Moon, it would fall on Saturday, the Sabbath. The Rapture won't be in winter or on the Sabbath day.

To me, Dec. 13, 2009, the Feast of Dedication, the Feast of Lights, Hanukkah, seems most likely for the First-Trump Rapture, and Sept. 14, 2015, the Feast of Trumpets, most likely for the Last-Trump Rapture. That will be Day of the Lord that is also the Day of God's Wrath.

In John 4:35, Jesus said, "Say not ye, There are yet four months, and then cometh harvest? behold, I say unto you, Lift up your eyes, and look on the fields; for they are white already to harvest." If the time is Hanukkah, the four months would be Teveth, Shebat, Adar and Nisan. Agape

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