Pro and Con 1531

Posted 12-28-09

Incoming e-mail, Re: Pics: The truth, the whole truth, nothing but ---- [Good one!] (incl: 4 pics of them together)

Obama was asked by the press if he had ever met Gov. Ron Blagojevich. Barack Obama: "I only saw Rod Blagojevich one time ... and that was in the stands and from a distance at a Chicago Bears Football Game."

2010 Food Crisis for Dummies

by Eric deCarbonnel, Dec 17, 09

...THERE IS OVERWHELMING, UNDENIABLE EVIDENCE THAT THE WORLD WILL RUN OUT OF FOOD NEXT YEAR. When this happens, the resulting triple digit food inflation will lead panicking central banks around the world to dump their foreign reserves to appreciate their currencies and lower the cost of food imports, causing the collapse of the dollar, the treasury market, derivative markets, and the global financial system. The US will experience economic disintegration.

The 2010 Food Crisis Means Financial Armageddon

Over the last TWO YEARS, the world has faced a series of unprecedented financial crises…


Specifically, the USDA has declared half the counties in the Midwest to be primary disaster areas, including 274 counties in the last 30 days alone....

My comment

Besides those "disaster areas, California turned off the water to the central valley, making that great food basket a barren dust bowl on purpose, to keep a little fish from going extinct. To me, that was a criminal act. Who would like you to think that a little fish is more important than people?

Incoming e-mail, Re: The Generation Solution

Psalm 90 refers to the Lord being our dwelling place in ALL generations “BEFORE the mountains were brought forth” during the creation of the earth and then speaks of Gods anger and end time judgement and Gods return. Vs:5 “Thou carriest them (the sheep) away as with a flood” and vs:10…”we fly away”

The Psalm seems to be a summary of Gods entire relationship with man from the beginning of creation to the final judgement. It also talks of a generation being vs:10. “three score years and ten”, which is considered to be the length of a generation today. That being the case a very interesting date comes to mind with regards to the 1948 date of the birth of Israel plus 70 years =2018 – 7 =2011 as to being the start of the Great seven year Tribulation. I disagree with some that the Tribulation has already commenced. Many people in the USA might feel it had because of the economic downturn, but the rest of the world has not felt it that much yet. It is no good in trying to stretch the fabric to fit the pattern. Stick to the basics. The Tribulation period is going to affect everyone world wide seriously and there will be no doubts about it at all when it starts. That is becoming very obvious too.

At the moment there is also much talk about 2012:

2012 is Satan's "generic" date. Yes, he does NOT know the day nor hour of Jesus’ return, but he does know the "season". He has put forth a false date for the “end of his world”. Obviously, if 2012 were the end of the Age of the Gentiles according to many pagan beliefs, we would be in Heaven already and the Tribulation would be halfway over if these many prophesies had been fulfilled. This is clearly not the case. It is Lucifer’s scheme and only his. People watching that date are going to be caught out unexpectedly.

Jesus, is the Lord and quite likely is going to call out the saints sooner than Lucifer’s 2012 and set in motion all the great events of the Tribulation. This countdown started when the Fig Tree began to bloom and that was May 15, 1948, after all the bones started regathering (according to Ezekiel). Israel is almost 62 years old now so only one year is left. Jesus said in the Olivet Discourse to the inner core of the disciples, represented today I should think, by the watching wide awake virgins, that the Generation who witnesses "these things" (the blooming of the Fig Tree, mentioned as Israel several times in the Bible would not pass away without experiencing the “blessed hope” of the prophets.

My reply

Here is the way I think.

THE JUBILEE YEAR There can't be a Jubilee YEAR until Christ returns, for all the Israelites will return to Israel. I think Jesus will return on the first day of the Jubilee Year, Nisan 1, 5776 (April 9, 2016).

A year either starts on Tishri 1, head of the Civil Year, or Nisan 1, head of both the Regnal and Sacred Years. The Jubilee Year was announced on the previous Day of Atonement, but started the following Nisan 1. In 27 AD, Jesus read Isa. 61:1,2 on the Day of Atonement to announce that the following year would be a Jubilee Year.
Lev 25:2-4 says, "When ye come into the land which I give you, then shall the land keep a sabbath unto the the seventh year shall be a sabbath of rest unto the land, a sabbath for the LORD: thou shalt neither sow thy field, nor prune thy vineyard."

Lev 25:8-13 says, "And thou shalt number seven sabbaths of years unto thee, seven times seven years; and the space of the seven sabbaths of years shall be unto thee FORTY AND NINE YEARS. THEN (in the 49th year) shalt thou cause the trumpet of the jubile (i.e., the trumpet announcing the coming 50th year to be the Jubilee) to sound on the tenth day of the SEVENTH MONTH (showing us that Nisan 1 is the FIRST MONTH of the year), in the day of atonement shall ye make the trumpet sound throughout all your land. And ye shall hallow the fiftieth year, and proclaim liberty throughout all the land unto all the inhabitants thereof: it shall be a jubile unto you; and YE SHALL RETURN EVERY MAN UNTO HIS POSSESSION, and ye shall return every man unto his family. A jubile shall that fiftieth YEAR be unto you: ye shall not sow, neither reap that which groweth of itself in it, nor gather the grapes in it of thy vine undressed. For it (the 50th year) is the jubile; it shall be holy unto you: ye shall eat the increase thereof out of the field. IN THE YEAR OF THIS JUBILE YE SHALL RETURN EVERY MAN UNTO HIS POSSESSION." That can't happen until after the Second Advent.

Returning to their possessions will take place in the Jubilee Year 1335 days after Mid-Trib. Dan 12:11-13 says, "And from the time that the daily sacrifice shall be taken away (Mid-Trib), and the abomination (idol) that maketh desolate set up (in the Temple), there shall be a thousand two hundred and ninety days (the extra 30 days past 1260 days shows that this is a Jewish Leap Year, and 5776 is a Leap Year). Blessed is he that waiteth, and cometh to the thousand three hundred and five and thirty days. But go thou thy way till the end be: for thou (Daniel) shalt rest, and stand in thy lot (i.e., plot of land in Israel) at the end of the days." I think the 1335 days end in the Jubilee Year on Thur, Sivan 16, 5776 (Wed, June 22, 2016).

Jer 30:7-10 says of the great and terrible Day of the Lord that is also the Day of God's Wrath. "Alas! for THAT DAY (one literal day, not the whole Tribulation) is great, so that NONE IS LIKE IT: it (that one day) is even THE TIME OF JACOB'S TROUBLE; but he shall be saved out of it. For it shall come to pass IN THAT DAY, saith the LORD of hosts, that I will break his yoke from off thy neck, and will burst thy bonds, and strangers shall no more serve themselves of him: But they shall serve the LORD their God, and DAVID THEIR KING, WHOM I WILL RAISE UP UNTO THEM."

Jer 30:10 says, "Therefore fear thou not, O my servant Jacob, saith the LORD; neither be dismayed, O Israel: for, lo, I will save thee from afar (the asteroids of Rev. 8:8-11 will impact Earth on the Day of God's Wrath), and thy seed from the land of their captivity; and JACOB SHALL RETURN, and shall be in rest, and be quiet, and none shall make him afraid."

Eze. 39:12,13 says, "And seven months, (1) Tishri, (2) Cheshvan, (3) Kislev, (4) Teveth, (5) Shevat, (6) Adar, and (7) Adar II, shall the house of Israel be burying of them (all but 1/6th of Gog's army), that they may cleanse the land. Yea, all the people of the land shall bury them; and it shall be to them a renown the day that I shall be glorified, saith the Lord GOD."

Christ will be glorified at the Second Advent. It looks like that will be Nisan 1, 5776, April 9, 2016. It would be announced on the previous Day of Atonement (Tishri 10, 5776, Sept. 23, 2015) 10 days after the Day of God's Wrath (Tishri 1, 5776, Sept. 14, 2015).

Israel declared their Independance May 14, 1948 (Iyar 5, 5708, not a Sabbatic Year, because it does not divide by 7 equally). A generation is 48.33 years (Mt. 1:17). 1948 + 48.33 = 1996.33. Neither the Rapture nor the Second Advent happened in 1996, so we can scrub that year.

Israel grew leaves (Sinai, Gaza Strip, Golan Heights and the West Bank) in the Six-Day War, fulfilling the Fig Tree Parable of Mt. 24:32-34. That war started June 5, 1967 (Iyar 26, 5727, not a Sabbatic Year). 1967 + 50 = 2017, or 5727 + 50 = 5777, which does not follow a Sabbatic Year.


The Sabbatic 5768 has passed, and 5782 is too far in the future to be considered.


It is a Leap Year with the 13th month, and it follows the Sabbatic 5775.

If Nisan 1, 5776 (April 9, 2016) will be the Second Advent, then the Day of God's Wrath will be 7 months before that, on Tishri 1, 5776 (Sept. 14, 2015). That should be the day all 7 trumpet judgments take place.

The 2300 days of the shortened Tribulation (Dan. 8:13,14) would have started last Pentecost, May 29, 2009 (the anniversary of Pentecost on May 29, 30 AD). The 2300 days would end on Trumpets, Tishri 1, 5776, Sept. 14, 2015.

> > The Psalm seems to be a summary of Gods entire relationship with man from the beginning of creation to the final judgement. It also talks of a generation being vs:10. “three score years and ten”, which is considered to be the length of a generation today. That being the case a very interesting date comes to mind with regards to the 1948 date of the birth of Israel plus 70 years =2018 – 7 =2011 as to being the start of the Great seven year Tribulation.

The average life span is 70 years, not a generation, the age when the next generation is born. However, 2018 does seem to be the outer limit beyond which endtime events cannot be placed. Tishri 1, 5779 will be Sept. 10, 2018.

A generation can vary somewhat. Webster's Dictionary says a generation is 33 years. The Israelites wandered 40 years in the desert while one generation died off. The longest Biblical generation is 48.33 years (Mt. 1:17). It is an important time for us to consider.

The last day of the Six-Day War was June 10, 1967. Adding 48.33 years is about Sept. 14, 2015, Tishri 1, 5776, probably the Day of God's Wrath. That fits, because 5775 is a Sabbatic Year. Therefore, the Jubilee could be announced on the Day of Atonement, Sept. 23, 2015 (Tishri 10, 5776) and start on the following Nisan 1, 5776 (April 9, 2016).

> > I disagree with some that the Tribulation has already commenced.

I didn't think we would be in the Tribulation, either, but with the passage of time, I had to admit that it now seems likely. I don't see how the outer limit of the end time can be advanced. It seems locked in place.

One thing we can be sure of is that the wise-virgin-Philadelphian saints will be in Heaven before Christ receives the seven-sealed Title Deed of the Earth. They will be in Heaven before the first seal is broken in Rev. 6. In Rev. 4:1, we can be sure that John went to Heaven. In 4:4, we can see that the 12 patriarchs and 12 apostles of Israel are in Heaven crowned and sitting on their thrones. In Rev. 5:9, we see that saints from all nations are there, not just from Israel. The seals can't be broken before Christ receives the Title Deed, and we are in Heaven when he receives it.

The year 2015 - 7 = 2008, so it does seem possible that we are in the 2nd year of the Tribulation. In the type in Gen 45:6, Joseph said, "For these TWO YEARS hath the famine been in the land: and YET THERE ARE FIVE YEARS, in the which there shall neither be earing nor harvest." Jacob/Israel and all the rest of the family went to Joseph in the 2nd year.

It now looks to me like we might go to Jesus on Ascension Day in the 2nd year. Ascension Day will be the only spring feast in 5770 (2009/2010) that will fall on Sunday, the Lord's Day.

Song of Solomon 2:10-14 sounds like the Rapture will be in the spring. It says, "My beloved spake, and said unto me, RISE UP, my love, my fair one, and COME AWAY. For, lo, the winter is past, the rain is over and gone (i.e., Nisan is over); The flowers appear on the earth; the time of the singing of birds is come, and the voice of the turtle (lit., turtledove, which arrives in April and leaves in October) is heard in our land; The fig tree putteth forth her green figs, and the vines with the tender grape give a good smell. ARISE, my love, my fair one, and COME AWAY. O my dove, that art in the clefts of the rock, in the secret...of the stairs".

In the Preview of the Rapture in Rev. 1:9-11, John said, "I John, who also am your brother, and companion IN TRIBULATION, and in the kingdom and patience of Jesus Christ, was in the isle that is called Patmos (meaning mortal), for the word of God, and for the testimony of Jesus Christ. I was (lit., became) in the Spirit on the LORD'S DAY (Sunday), and heard behind me a great voice (Jesus'), as of a trumpet (the trumpet of God, I Thess. 4:16), Saying, I am Alpha and Omega, the first and the last".

As I see it, the LORD'S DAY (Rev. 1:9) refers to Sunday, the day of the First-Trump Rapture (I Thess. 4:15,17), and the DAY OF THE LORD refers to the Last-Trump Rapture (I Cor. 15:51,52) on the Day of God's Wrath (Rev. 6:17; 7:9,14).

2Pe 3:10 says, "But the DAY OF THE LORD will come as a thief in the night; in the which the heavens shall pass away with a great noise, and the elements shall melt with fervent heat, the earth also and the works that are therein shall be burned up." Therefore, Rev. 1:9,10 cannot refer to the Day of the Lord.

Isa 22:16-19 tells us what will happen on the great and terrible DAY OF THE LORD. It says, "What hast thou here? (Babylon III) and whom hast thou here (the False Prophet), that thou hast hewed thee out a sepulchre here, as he (Satan) that heweth him out a sepulchre on high, and that graveth an habitation for himself in a rock (the asteroid named Wormwood, Rev. 8:11)? Behold, the LORD will carry thee away with a mighty captivity, and will surely cover thee. He will surely violently turn and TOSS THEE LIKE A BALL INTO A LARGE COUNTRY (to destroy Babylon III (Rev 18), not tiny Israel): there shalt thou die, and there the chariots of thy glory shall be the shame of thy lord's house. And I will drive thee from thy station, and from thy state shall he pull thee down."

> > This countdown started when the Fig Tree began to bloom and that was May 15, 1948

It doesn't say anything about the fig tree blooming. In the KJV, the words bloom, blooms, and blooming do not appear. It is when it puts out leaves, grows, as it did in the Six-Day War. The Parable of the Fig Tree in Mt. 24:32-34 says, "Now learn a parable of the fig tree; When his branch (klados, scion broken off for grafting, i.e., modern Israel grafted into her old root stock) is yet tender (apalos, young, i.e., no more than 19, as in 1967), and PUTTETH FORTH LEAVES, ye know that summer is nigh (the Six-Day War started on June 5; summer began June 21): So likewise ye, when ye shall see all these things, know that it (i.e., the Rapture) is near, even at the doors (symbol of the Rapture, Rev. 3:8). Verily I say unto you, This generation shall not pass, till all these things be fulfilled." June, 1967 + 48.33 years = 2015.33. The 4 extra months would be Sivan, Tamuz, Av and Elul. Elul 29 is the Eve of Trumpets, which is Tishri 1, 5776. To me, it fits beautifully.

> > 2012 is Satan's "generic" date. Yes, he does NOT know the day nor hour of Jesus’ return, but he does know the "season". He has put forth a false date for the “end of his world”.

The Dec 21, 2012 date, end of the Mayan Calendar, seems to demonstrate that Satan knew how long he had to try to win the Angelic Conflict. That date will probably turn out to be close to the day that Satan will enter into the False Prophet Mid-Trib. That seems to be Nov. 8/9, 2012.

> > Psalm 90 refers to the Lord being our dwelling place in ALL generations “BEFORE the mountains were brought forth” during the creation of the earth

I think the mountains were brought forth when Earth was hit by an asteroid, and it blasted the Moon material out of the Pacific Basin. There is very little granite in that basin. The missing granite was found on the Moon.

Gen. 1:9,10 says, "God said, Let the waters under the heaven be gathered together unto ONE PLACE (i.e., into the Pacific Basin), and let the dry land appear: and it was so. And God called the dry land Earth; and the gathering together of the waters called he Seas: and God saw that it was good." I think canyons like the Grand Canyon were cut in a hurry in those days.

Maranatha and Merry Christmas. Agape

Incoming e-mail, Re: revealing the antichrist

Paul articulates that the revealing of the Anti-Christ to the world cannot happen until the restrainer (The Holy Spirit) is removed. Consistently throughout Scripture and history, the Holy Spirit and His restraining influence is through God's People (Matthew 13,14; John 16:7, 11).


Ascension Day, Iyar 25, 5770, Sunday, May 9, 2010, is the next Feast that falls on Sunday

By Marilyn Agee, posted 12-27-2009

The script for the miracle play, "The Revelation of Jesus Christ", was written as if the First-Trump Rapture was near. It is "at hand" in both the first and last chapters.

Rev. 1:3 says, "Blessed is he that readeth, and they that hear the words of this prophecy, and keep those things which are written therein: for THE TIME IS AT HAND." Rev 22:10 says, "he saith unto me, Seal not the sayings of the prophecy of this book: for THE TIME IS AT HAND."

Rev 1:19 says, "Write the things which thou hast seen (before the Rapture), and the things which are (at the time of the Rapture), and the things which shall be hereafter." Hereafter the Rapture starts in Rev. 4:1.


As in our movies, the script starts with a Preview. In Rev 1:8-11, Jesus said, "I am Alpha and Omega, the beginning and the ending, saith the Lord, which is (at the First-Trump Rapture), and which was (at the First Advent), and which is to come (at the Second Advent), the Almighty. I John, who also am your brother, and companion IN TRIBULATION, and in the kingdom and patience of Jesus Christ, was in the isle that is called Patmos (meaning mortal), for the word of God, and for the testimony of Jesus Christ. I was (lit., became) in the Spirit on THE LORD'S DAY (SUNDAY), and heard behind me a great voice, as of a trumpet, I am Alpha and Omega, the first and the last".

Mt 27:52,53 says, "And the graves were opened; and many bodies of the saints which slept arose, And CAME OUT OF THE GRAVES AFTER HIS RESURRECTION (ON SUNDAY), and went into the holy city (Jerusalem, type of the New Jerusalem), and appeared unto many."

Rev 3:10-12 says, "Because thou hast kept the word of my patience, I also will keep thee from the hour of temptation, which shall come upon all the world, to try them that dwell upon the earth. Behold, I come quickly: hold that fast which thou hast, that no man take thy crown. Him that overcometh will I make a pillar in the temple of my God, and he shall go no more out: and I will write upon him the name of my God, and the name of the city of my God, which is NEW JERUSALEM, which cometh down out of heaven from my God: and I will write upon him my new name.


Rev 4:1 says, "After this I looked, and, behold, a door was opened in heaven: and the first voice which I heard was as it were of a trumpet talking with me; which said, COME UP HITHER, and I will shew thee things which must be HEREAFTER."


Rev 4:2-4 says, "immediately I was (lit., became) in the spirit: and, behold, a throne was set in heaven, and one sat on the throne. And he that sat was to look upon like a jasper and a sardine stone: and there was a rainbow round about the throne, in sight like unto an emerald. And round about the throne were four and twenty seats: and upon the seats I saw four and twenty elders sitting, clothed in white raiment; and they had on their heads crowns of gold."

Rev 5:1 says, "I saw in the right hand of him that sat on the throne a book written within and on the backside, sealed with seven seals.

Rev 5:8-10 says, "...saints. And they sung a new song, saying, Thou art worthy to take the book, and to open the seals thereof: for thou wast slain, and hast redeemed us to God by thy blood out of every kindred, and tongue, and people, and nation; And hast made us unto our God kings and priests: and we shall reign on (or over) the earth."


Passover, 14 Nisan, 5770 = Mon, 29 Mar. 2010 Feast of Unleavened Bread, 15 Nisan, 5770 = Tue, 30 Mar. 2010 Feast of Firstfruits, 16 Nisan, 5770 = Wed, 31 Mar. 2010 ASCENSION DAY, 25 IYYAR, 5770 = SUNDAY, 9 MAY 2010 Pentecost, 6 Sivan, 5770 = Wed, 19 May 2010

I hope this Ascension Day, the 40th day of the counting of the Omer, will be the day of the First-Trumpet Rapture. This is not the same day the eastern and western churches keep Ascension Day. Since they figure that the Easter celebration must always be on Sunday, and count 40 days from Easter, they get a different date for Ascension Day, and it always falls on Thursday. The western churches use the Gregorian Calendar. The eastern churches use the Julian Calendar. Even so, both are scheduled to keep Ascension Day in 2010 on the same day, the Thursday following Sunday, May 9, the 40th day of the Omer.

Thursday in the sixth week following Easter Sunday
2008, May 1 (Western); June 5 (Eastern)
2009, May 21 (Western); May 28 (Eastern)
2010, May 13 (both Western and Eastern)

"Counting of the Omer (or Sefirat Ha'omer, Hebrew: ????? ?????) is a verbal counting of each of the forty-nine days between the Jewish holidays of Passover and Shavuot. This mitzvah derives from the Torah commandment to count forty-nine days beginning from the day on which the Omer, a sacrifice containing an omer-measure of barley, was offered in the Temple in Jerusalem, up until the day before an offering of wheat was brought to the Temple on Shavuot. The Counting of the Omer begins on the second day of Passover (the 16th of Nisan) for Rabbinic Jews, and after the weekly Shabbat during Passover for Karaite Jews, and ends the day before the holiday of Shavuot, the 'fiftieth day."

This way, Iyar 25, Ascension Day, is Omer 40. Sivan 5 is Omer 49. Sivan 6, Pentecost, is the 50th day. The months from Passover to Trumpets never vary in length, so Iyar 25 is always Ascension Day, and Sivan 6 is always Pentecost.

Lev 23:5-17 (KJV) says, "In the fourteenth day of the first month at even is the LORD'S passover. And on the fifteenth day of the same month is the feast of unleavened bread unto the LORD: seven days ye must eat unleavened bread. In the first day (Nisan 15, Feast of Unleavened Bread) ye shall have AN HOLY CONVOCATION: YE SHALL DO NO SERVILE WORK THEREIN (so it is an Annual Sabbath). But ye shall offer an offering made by fire unto the LORD seven days: in the seventh day is an holy convocation: ye shall do no servile work therein. And the LORD spake unto Moses, saying, Speak unto the children of Israel, and say unto them, When ye be come into the land which I give unto you, and shall reap the harvest thereof, then YE SHALL BRING A SHEAF OF THE FIRSTFRUITS (on the Feast of Firstfruits) of your harvest unto the priest: And he shall wave the sheaf before the LORD, to be accepted for you: on the morrow (Nisan 16) after the sabbath Nisan 15) the priest shall wave it. And ye shall offer that day when ye wave the sheaf (on Nisan 16) an he lamb without blemish of the first year for a burnt offering unto the LORD. And the meat offering thereof shall be two tenth deals of fine flour mingled with oil, an offering made by fire unto the LORD for a sweet savour: and the drink offering thereof shall be of wine, the fourth part of an hin. And ye shall eat neither bread, nor parched corn, nor green ears, until the selfsame day that ye have brought an offering unto your God: it shall be a statute for ever throughout your generations in all your dwellings. And ye shall count unto you from the morrow (Nisan 16) after the sabbath (Nisan 15), FROM THE DAY THAT YE BROUGHT THE SHEAF OF THE WAVE OFFERING (NISAN 16); SEVEN SABBATHS (seven sevens, 49 days) SHALL BE COMPLETE: Even unto the morrow (50th day) after the seventh sabbath (49th day) shall ye number FIFTY DAYS (Pentecost, meaning 50); and ye shall offer a new meat offering unto the LORD. YE SHALL BRING OUT OF YOUR HABITATIONS TWO WAVE LOAVES of two tenth deals: they shall be of fine flour (wheat flour); they shall be baken with leaven; THEY ARE THE FIRSTFRUITS unto the LORD."

James 1:18 says, "Of his own will begat he us (brethren, Jew and Gentile believers) with the word of truth, that WE SHOULD BE A KIND OF FIRSTFRUITS of his creatures."

Rom 8:14-25 says, "For as many as are led by the Spirit of God, they are the sons of God. For ye have not received the spirit of bondage again to fear; but ye have received the Spirit of adoption, whereby we cry, Abba, Father. The Spirit itself beareth witness with our spirit, that we are the children of God: And if children, then heirs; heirs of God, and JOINT-HEIRS WITH CHRIST; if so be that we suffer with him, that we may be also glorified together. For I reckon that the sufferings of this present time are not worthy to be compared with the glory which shall be revealed in us. For the earnest expectation of the creature waiteth for the manifestation of THE SONS OF GOD. For the creature was made subject to vanity, not willingly, but by reason of him who hath subjected the same in hope, Because the creature itself also shall be delivered from the bondage of corruption into the glorious liberty of THE CHILDREN OF GOD. For we know that the whole creation groaneth and travaileth in pain together until now. And not only they, but ourselves also, which have the firstfruits of the Spirit, even we ourselves groan within ourselves, WAITING FOR THE ADOPTION, TO WIT, THE REDEMPTION OF OUR BODY. For WE ARE SAVED BY HOPE: but hope that is seen is not hope: for what a man seeth, why doth he yet hope for? But IF WE HOPE FOR THAT WE SEE NOT, THEN DO WE WITH PATIENCE WAIT FOR IT."

1Co 15:22,23 says, "For as in Adam all die, even so in Christ shall all be made alive. But every man in his own order (rank): Christ (the Firstfruit resurrection on the Feast of Firstfruits) the firstfruits (First-Trump Rapture, maybe on Ascension Day, Sunday, May 9, 2010); afterward they that are Christ's at his coming (Last-Trump Rapture on the Feast of Trumpets when men see the Sign of the Son of Man in the sky).

Rev 14:2-5 says, "I heard a voice from heaven, as the voice of many waters, and as the voice of a great thunder: and I heard the voice of harpers harping with their harps: And they sung as it were a new song before the throne, and before the four beasts, and the elders: and no man could learn that song but the hundred and forty and four thousand, which were redeemed from the earth. These are they which were not defiled with women; for they are virgins. These are they which follow the Lamb whithersoever he goeth. These were redeemed from among men, being the FIRSTFRUITS unto God and to the Lamb. And in their mouth was found no guile: for they are without fault before the throne of God."

Isa 44:6 says, "Thus saith the LORD (YHWH) the King of Israel, and his redeemer the LORD (YHWH) of hosts; I am the first (YHWH King of Israel), and I am the last (YHWH of hosts, the Redeemer); and beside me there is no God."


Rev 6:1.2 says, "I saw when the Lamb opened one of the seals, and I heard, as it were the noise of thunder, one of the four beasts saying, Come and see. And I saw, and behold a white horse: and he that sat on him had a bow (toxon, plain fabric, i.e., he is a man of the cloth, a religious leader); and a crown was given unto him: and he went forth conquering, and to conquer." Definition of man of the cloth - a member of the clergy and a spiritual leader of the Christian Church. clergyman, reverend.

I think the first beast of Rev. 13 is the Pope. He has on his head the name of blasphemy, Pontifex Maximus, the High Priest. This name has been upon all the heads of the world empires starting with Nimrod at the Tower of Babel. The 7 empires are Babel, Babylon II, Media-Persia, Greece, Holy Roman Empire, Ecclesiastical Roman Empire, and Babylon III.


Pope Benedict XVI Attacked - Pope Felled By Lady In Red Kacycarr, Dec. 24, 2009
(That happened on Christmas Eve at St. Peter's Cathedral.)

"Today POPE BENEDICT XVI TOOK A FALL but not one caused by tripping over his robe or something that blocked his way, but BY THE HAND OF A DERANGED WOMAN. After he was felled he managed to get to his feet, a little shaken but not enough to stop him from continuing with Christmas Eve mass....

Television images showed a woman dressed in red lunge toward Pope Benedict as he started to walk up the central aisle.

"Last year the same thing happened involving a woman who police stopped from lurching forward at the pope as he left Basilica."
By Matthew Champion, 25, Dec 2009$1349378.htm

The woman who dragged Pope Benedict to the ground at the start of Christmas Eve Mass in St Peter's failed in a similar incident last year, the Vatican has admitted.

The Pope was unhurt and managed to say Mass but appeared shaken, while the woman, named in Italian media as Susanna Maiolo, was taken to hospital with police saying she had a history of mental illness.
Pope Knocked Down By Woman At Christmas Mass

Why did Benedict lose his miter and staff in the fall? Why did this same woman, dressed in a red hooded sweatshirt both times, try this stunt twice? This time, she grabbed his clothing in front and pulled him down on her. She also knocked down Cardinal Roger Etchegaray, who broke his hip. Was all of this to get our attention and to tie in with Rev. 2:18-29?

It says, "And unto the angel of the church in Thyatira (meaning thoroughly married) write; These things saith the Son of God, who hath his eyes like unto a flame of fire, and his feet are like fine brass; I know thy works, and charity, and service, and faith, and thy patience, and thy works; and the last to be more than the first. Notwithstanding I have a few things against thee, because thou sufferest that WOMAN Jezebel, which calleth herself a prophetess, to teach and to seduce my servants to commit fornication (joining), and to eat things sacrificed unto idols. And I gave her space to repent of her fornication; and she repented not. Behold, I WILL CAST HER INTO A BED, AND THEM THAT COMMIT ADULTERY (i.e., join) WITH HER INTO GREAT TRIBULATION, except they repent of their deeds. And I will kill her children with death; and all the churches shall know that I am he which searcheth the reins and hearts: and I will give unto every one of you according to your works. But unto you I say, and unto the rest in Thyatira, as many as have not this doctrine, and which have not known THE DEPTHS OF SATAN, as they speak; I will put upon you none other burden. But that which ye have already hold fast till I come. And he that overcometh, and keepeth my works unto the end, to him will I give power over the nations (Rev. 5:10): And he shall rule them with a rod of iron; as the vessels of a potter shall they be broken to shivers: even as I received of my Father. And I will give him the morning star. He that hath an ear, let him hear what the Spirit saith unto the churches."

Rev 17:1-5 says, "And there came one of the seven angels which had the seven vials, and talked with me, saying unto me, Come hither; I will shew unto thee the judgment of THE GREAT WHORE THAT SITTETH UPON MANY WATERS: With whom the kings of the earth have committed fornication (joined), and THE INHABITANTS OF THE EARTH HAVE BEEN MADE DRUNK WITH THE WINE OF HER FORNICATION (joining together). So he carried me away in the spirit into the wilderness (i.e., at Babylon): and I saw a WOMAN sit upon a scarlet coloured beast, FULL OF NAMES OF BLASPHEMY, having seven heads (Babel, Babylon II, Media-Persia, Greece, Holy Roman Empire, Ecclesiastical Roman Empire, and Babylon III) and ten horns. And THE WOMAN WAS ARRAYED IN PURPLE AND SCARLET COLOUR, and decked with gold and precious stones and pearls, having a golden cup in her hand full of abominations and filthiness of her fornication: And upon her forehead was a name written, MYSTERY, BABYLON THE GREAT, THE MOTHER OF HARLOTS AND ABOMINATIONS OF THE EARTH."

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