Pro and Con 1539

Posted 2-8-10

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"Wednesday, June 7th, 1967 was the day they saw"

According to tradition, the Second Temple, like the First, was destroyed at the conclusion of Shabbat - on a Saturday night (i.e., if after 6 PM, it went up in smoke on Sunday, maybe suggesting a Sunday Rapture of the Temple of the Holy Spirit). Both Josephus and the Midrashic writings describe how even though the flames of destruction raged all around, and the blood of the slain flowed through the Temple, the priests nevertheless continued to serve atop the altar, and the levites did not cease to sing, right up until the very end....

So too, the Levites perceived that the long process of Israel's redemption, hinging on the rebuilding of the Holy Temple, would begin again on a Wednesday... thus they sang the song of Wednesday, for they sang not of destruction, or revenge, but of promise continuation, renewal and rebirth:

The Levites saw that Jerusalem and the Temple Mount would stand desolate for nearly two milenia... but they would be regathered by Israel once again on a Wednesday: Wednesday, June 7th, 1967 was the day they saw. This day could be considered the first step towards the rebuilding of the Holy Temple. For this day marked a turning point in Jewish history, and began a new era, which progresses in our own time, and moves towards the great destiny of the Jewish people, to be a light to the nations and a people who walk with God in their midst.

Joe Hoyle (1 Feb 2010) "Reply To Frank: May Already Be In Tribulation"
Hey Frank. In response to your Post:

I was reading the Last Trumpet newsletter over the weekend. Pastor David Myers also thinks that we have entered into the tribulation period.

And that same thing has recently been impressed upon me as well. Just like watching a movie, things usually starts out slow and gains momentum as the minutes go by.

People up to their eyeballs in pre-trib doctrine, may not be seeing the real land scape very well.

EU President Herman Van Rompuy declared 2009 as the first year of global governance, with 2010 being the first full year.
New EU President Rompuy announces 2009 as “first year of global governance”
Daniel Taylor, Nov 20, 2009

Rothschild: banks will deleverage and there will be a new form of global governance
EU Calls for “Internet G12? for Global Internet Governance
Rothschild: Economic crisis will leave governments with “enormous public debt”
EMportal, Mar 20, 2009

David de Rothschild estimated that the global economic crisis will come to an end in 2010.

He also stressed that the first signs of recovery will be stock markets rising, but he warned that the crisis will leave the governments’ coffers with enormous public debt.
Brown: Economic Crisis Represents Birth Pangs Of “New Global Order”

British Prime Minister Gordon Brown will today call for the economic crisis to be used to create a “new global order,” and a new form of internationalism, a mantra that is becoming all too familiar as globalists exploit the very problem they created to centralize power into fewer hands....

Brown’s call for a new global order is one of countless similar statements he and many other top globalists have made in the past. The “solution” being proposed to fix the problem is merely a greater dose of what caused the catastrophe in the first place.

They created the problem of wildly irresponsible fractional reserve banking, the debt bubble and the credit crunch by ceaselessly inflating the money supply and promoting the debt culture. Now they are going to offer their solution to the crisis – the further centralization of global economic power into fewer hands.
Greek PM, Bilderberger at Copenhagen: “We are Observing the Birth of Global Governance”


The following is proof that the Paschal Lamb was killed on the Eve of Passover (Erev Pesach). The Jews call that Nisan 14, but Nisan 14 was originally set up in Lev. 23:4,5 as Passover. Therefore, the Biblical Eve of Passover was Nisan 13, the day of the Crucifixion.

Lev 23:4-6 says, "These are the feasts of the LORD, even holy convocations, which ye shall proclaim in their seasons. In the FOURTEENTH day of the first month at even is the LORD'S PASSOVER. And on the fifteenth day of the same month is the feast of unleavened bread unto the LORD: seven days ye must eat unleavened bread" (all emphasis is mine).

There was a custom in those days for the Jews to request a certain prisioner be released to them on the Eve of Passover.

By Charles R. Chavel


Lev 23:27,32 says, "Also on the TENTH day of this seventh month there shall be a day of atonement: it shall be an holy convocation unto you...It shall be unto you a sabbath of rest, and ye shall afflict your souls: IN THE NINTH DAY OF THE MONTH AT EVEN, FROM EVEN UNTO EVEN, SHALL YE CELEBRATE YOUR SABBATH."


John 19:14 says, "And IT WAS THE PREPARATION OF THE PASSOVER, and about the sixth hour: and he saith unto the Jews, Behold your King!


It says, "ON THE EVE OF PASSOVER THEY HANGED YESHU. And an announcer went out, in front of him, for forty days (saying): 'He is going to be stoned because he practiced sorcery and enticed and led Israel astray. Anyone who knows anything in his favor, let him come and plead in his behalf.' But, not having found anything in his favor, THEY HANGED HIM ON THE EVE OF THE PASSOVER."


"Korban Pesach"

"Korban Pesach (..."sacrifice of Passover") also known as the "Paschal Lamb" is the sacrifice that the Torah mandates to be brought ON THE EVE OF PASSOVER, AND EATEN ON THE FIRST NIGHT OF THE HOLIDAY with bitter herbs and matzo."


"In Temple times the paschal lamb was offered during the AFTERNOON OF THE EVE OF PASSOVER; therefore more laws and ceremonies are grouped around this day".

The "afternoon of the Eve of Passover" fits 3 PM on Nisan 13.


By Solomon Schechter and Julius H. Greenstone

"THE EVE OF JEWISH HOLIDAYS IS therefore not the evening of the festival, but THE DAY PRECEDING IT; in conversation, the expression "'ereb yom?ob" is even extended to denote an indefinite period preceding the holiday. It is observed as A DAY ON WHICH IS PREPARED (pa?as?e??) SUCH WORK AS IT IS NOT PERMITTED TO DO ON THE HOLIDAY or on the Sabbath."


"Announcement of Beginning.
"The Rabbis enjoined that the celebration of holidays should begin some time BEFORE SUNSET, in order "to add from the profane to the holy" (R. H. 9a; Yoma 81b). In Temple times the blowing of the trumpet thrice by the Levites on the eve of a Sabbath or holiday notified the people to cease from work (Suk. 53b; Maimonides, "Yad," Kele ha-Mi?dash, vii. 5, 6; see Trumpet)....

"In Temple times the paschal lamb was offered during the AFTERNOON OF THE EVE OF PASSOVER...

"It is forbidden to eat any maZZah during the day preceding Passover, so that after the fourth hour no bread, leavened or unleavened, may be eaten".

Since the Last Supper was early on the first evening of Nisan 13, it was still ok to eat bread.
C. Pagan

"It has been taught: ON THE EVE OF PASSOVER they hanged Yeshu...because he practiced sorcery and enticed and led Israel astray. (Baraitha BT Sanhedrin 43a)...

" BT. Sanhedrin 67b, "they hung him ON THE EVE OF PASSOVER."] (Tosefta Sanhedrin 10.11)...

"With Jeshua however it was different, for he was connected with the government [or royalty, that is, influential]." (BT. Sanhedrin 43a.)"


"Rabbi to Bury Chabad 'Time Capsule' on Passover Eve at Unique Blessing of the Sun Ceremony

"...on April 8, 2009, the EVE OF PASSOVER, Jews around the world will rise early, gaze at the sun and recite the least-frequently-recited blessing in Judaism: Birkat HaChamah, the blessing on the sun."

Wed, 8 April 2009 = 14th of Nisan, 5769, WHICH WAS REALLY PASSOVER. It is interesting that Jesus, our Passover, is called the Sun of righteousness in Mal 4:2. It says, "But unto you that fear my name shall the Sun of righteousness arise with healing in his wings; and ye shall go forth, and grow up as calves of the stall."


By Eva Ariela Lindberg

"Birkat HaChama (the Hebrew Prayer from the prayer book) will be said at sunrise on 8 April 2009 (Hebrew date: 14 Nissan 5769). According to ancient tradition, once every 28 years the Sun returns to the position it occupied when it was created at the beginning of the fourth day of creation....

"One of the times the sun returned to its original position it occupied on 4th day of Creation, was on the Eve of Passover (Erev Pesach) when Moses led the Jewish people out of Egypt...Another occasion when it occurred on an Eve Pesach was at the time of the Purim miracle...

"8 April 2009. It is the 12th time that the BIRKAT HaCHAMA coincides with Passover eve.

"...there will not be another BIRKAT HACHAMA that coincides with eve of Passover...

"Listed below are events that indicate a special preparation...

"Rosh Hashana 2007 (Jewish New Year) – a two-day holiday flowing into Shabbat!

"Yom Kippur 2007 (The Day of Atonement) – on Shabbat!

"In the Kabbalistic tradition it is said that if Israel keeps two consecutive “Shabbatot" then the Geula (Messianic Times) will come!

"...that it is said that the Moshiach (Messiah) ben David will arrive at the end of a 7-year cycle. The year 5768 is a shmitta (sabbatical) year

"...5769 (2009) will be the 11th time that the Birkat HaChama occurs on the Eve of Passover."


By Rabbi Shlomo Chein,2275602/How-is-Passover-celebrated.html

"When we had a Holy Temple in Jerusalem a special PASSOVER OFFERING WAS BROUGHT ON THE EVE OF PASSOVER, roasted whole, and eaten on the first night of Passover.---"

"Only Sign Given

"The PASSOVER sacrifice was offered ON THE AFTERNOON OF THE 13TH and was then roasted for approximately three hours, and eaten on the night of the 14th....

"(By Jewish reckoning), 'EVENING' BEGINS AFTER HIGHNOON... "Wednesday's blessing was rarer than most -- it fell on the eve of Passover, the Jewish holiday commemorating the release of Jewish slaves from Egypt in Biblical times.

"Apr 8, 2009...Wednesday's blessing was rarer than most -- it fell on the eve of Passover, the Jewish holiday commemorating the release of Jewish slaves from Egypt in Biblical times."

Incoming e-mail, Re: Rapture and Five Doves

Have you read this on Five Doves about Rapture/vision one had about 5 Feb 2010? What say you? Any thoughts? All I can say is Come, Lord Jesus.

My reply

No, but Fri, 5 Feb, 2010 = 21 Shevat, 5770. What Biblical clue would tie in with that date?

I think the Rapture will be on Sunday, not Friday. In the Preview of the Rapture in Rev. 1:9-11, it says, "I John (one of the 24 elders), who also am your brother, and companion in tribulation, and in the kingdom and patience of Jesus Christ, was in the isle that is called Patmos (meaning mortal), for the word of God, and for the testimony of Jesus Christ. I was (lit., became) in the Spirit on THE LORD'S DAY (kuriakos hemera, i.e., Sunday), and heard behind me a great voice, as of a trumpet, Saying, I am Alpha and Omega, the first and the last".

Some have thought that kuriakos hemera might mean the Day of the Lord instead of Sunday. I don't think that is possible. The great and terrible Day of the Lord is the day of the Last-Trump Rapture (Rev. 6:17; 7:14). It is also the day of destruction and the Day of God's Wrath.

Isa 13:6 says, "Howl ye; for the DAY OF THE LORD is at hand; it shall come as a DESTRUCTION from the Almighty."

Isa 13:9 says, "Behold, the DAY OF THE LORD cometh, cruel both with WRATH and fierce anger, to lay the land desolate: and HE SHALL DESTROY THE SINNERS THEREOF OUT OF IT."

Joel 1:15 says, "Alas for the day! for the DAY OF THE LORD is at hand, and as a DESTRUCTION from the Almighty shall it come."

I think the Day of the Lord will be on the Feast of Trumpets. Joel 2:1-3 says, "Blow ye the TRUMPET in Zion, and sound an alarm in my holy mountain: let all the inhabitants of the land tremble: for the DAY OF THE LORD cometh, for it is nigh at hand; A day of darkness and of gloominess, a day of clouds and of thick darkness, as the morning spread upon the mountains: a great people and a strong (Gog's army, Eze. 38:18-20); THERE HATH NOT BEEN EVER THE LIKE, NEITHER SHALL BE ANY MORE AFTER IT (i.e., it does not take place at the beginning of the Tribulation, as some say), even to the years of many generations. A fire devoureth before them; and behind them a flame burneth: the land is as the garden of Eden before them, and behind them a desolate wilderness; yea, and nothing shall escape them." That's when the Lord will fight for Israel on the Day of God's Wrath.

If the Rapture would happen on a feast day, when will a feast day fall on Sunday?

Passover 14 Nisan, 5770 = Mon, 29 Mar 2010
Unl. Bread 15 Nisan, 5770 = Tue, 30 Mar 2010
Firstfruits 16 Nisan, 5770 = Wed, 31 Mar 2010, 1st day of the Omer, counted from the second night of Passover, i.e., from Unleavened Bread, to the day before Pentecost
Pentecost 6 Sivan, 5770 = Wed, 19 May 2010
Trumpets 1 Tishri, 5771 = Thu, 9 Sept 2010
Atonement 10 Tishri, 5771 = Sat, 18 Sept 2010
Tabernacles 15 Tishri, 5771 = Thu, 23 Sept 2010
Hanukkah 25 Kislev, 5771 = Thu, 2 Dec 2010
Passover 14 Nisan, 5771 = Mon, 18 April 2011
Unl. Bread 15 Nisan, 5771 = Tue, 19 April 2011
Pentecost 6 Sivan, 5771 = Wed, 8 June 2011
Trumpets 1 Tishri, 5772 = Thu, 29 Sept 2011
Atonement 10 Tishri, 5772 = Sat, 8 Oct 2011
Tabernacles 15 Tishri, 5772 = Thu, 13 Oct 2011
Hanukkah 25 Kislev, 5772 = Wed, 21 Dec 2011
Passover 14 Nisan, 5772 = Fri, 6 April 2012
Unl. Bread 15th of Nisan, 5772 = Sat, 7 April 2012
Firstfruits 16th of Nisan, 5772 = Sun, 8 April 2012

Could 8 April, 2012 be Mid-Trib? When I work out the exact dates for the 2300-day Tribulation (Dan. 8:13,14), I get May 29, 2009 (Pentecost) for the beginning, Nov. 9, 2012 for Mid-Trib, and Sept. 14, 2015 for the Day of God's Wrath. So Sunday, 8 April, 2012 doesn't line up with Mid-Trib exactly. It's off by about 7 months.

I think Jesus will return at the Second Advent on Nisan 1, 5776, April 6, 2016, the first day of the Jubilee Year. It would run from Nisan 1, 5776 (Sat, April 9, 2016) to Nisan 1, 5777 (Tue, 28 March 2017). 5776 - 3.5 years = 5772.5

Let's just do the math quickly using our years to see if that seems possible. The Sign of the End of the Age (Mt. 24:3; 32-34) was the Six-Day War of 1967. 1967 + 50 (for the Jubilee) = 2017.

2017 - 7 year Tribulation = 2010.

To me, that makes 2010 seem possible for the Rapture.

How about us ascending on ASCENSION DAY, Iyar 25, 5770, 40th day of the Omer, SUNDAY, May 9, 2010? It's sounding better and better to me all the time. Jesus, head of the Body of Christ, ascended that day. Maybe the Bride of Christ will also ascend on Ascension Day.

Acts 1:9-11 says, "And when he (Jesus) had spoken these things, while they beheld, he was TAKEN UP; and a cloud received him out of their sight. And while they looked stedfastly toward heaven as he went up, behold, TWO MEN(suggesting that Moses and Elijah will come to Earth at the First-Trump Rapture) stood by them in white apparel; Which also said, Ye men of Galilee (meaning circle, suggesting the heavenly planet), why stand ye gazing up into heaven? this same Jesus, which is taken up from you into heaven, SHALL SO COME IN LIKE MANNER as ye have seen him go into heaven."

Does "in like manner" suggest that he will come for the Bride of Christ on Ascension Day? It seems likely to me.

Actually, I don't think the first Rapture will happen on a Feast Day. The second one will be on the Feast of Trumpets though.


Num 10:2,3 says, "And the LORD spake unto Moses, saying, Make thee TWO TRUMPETS of silver; of a whole piece shalt thou make them: that thou mayest USE THEM (both) FOR THE CALLING OF THE ASSEMBLY (edah, congregation, multitude, people), AND FOR THE JOURNEYING OF THE CAMPS. And when they shall blow with them (both), ALL THE ASSEMBLY (i.e., the 'general assembly' in Heaven at the Last-Trump Rapture, Heb. 12:23) shall assemble themselves to thee at the DOOR (type of a Rapture, Rev. 3:8) of the tabernacle of the congregation (moed, place of meeting, assembly, due season, set time, SET SOLEMN FEAST, i.e., the Feast of Trumpets, Joel 2:1-3)."


Nu 10:4 says, "And IF THEY BLOW BUT WITH ONE TRUMPET, THEN THE PRINCES (i.e., the 12 patriarchs), which are HEADS OF THE THOUSANDS OF ISRAEL, shall gather themselves unto thee."

Notice that it doesn't place the First-Trump Rapture on a feast day. Only the Last-Trump Rapture is portrayed as on a feast day.

Luke 21: 25 says, "And there shall be signs in sun, and moon, and stars". Verse 28 says, "And when these things begin to come to pass, then look up, and lift up your heads; for your redemption draweth nigh."

Look up to the sky, for it looks like God is marking our important events with eclipses so unusual that we should be able to pick out the right ones. The year of the last in each series seems to mark very important events.

It is amazing that the last partial solar eclipse of the series of three, all on Av 1, ends this year, which just may be the year of the First-Trump Rapture.

August 1, 2008, Av 1, partial solar
July 22, 2008, Av 1, partial solar
July 11, 2010, Av 1, partial solar

Both the Sun and Moon are involved in a solar eclipse. It is the dark Moon that gets between Earth and Sun that shuts out the light of the Sun.

The Total Lunar eclipses of 2014 and 2015 are on Feast Days.

2014 Apr 15 Total (Nisan 16, 5774) FIRSTFRUITS
2014 Oct 8 Total (Tishri 15, 5775) TABERNACLES
2015 Apr 4 Total (Nisan 15, 5775) UNL. BREAD
2015 Sep 28 Total (Tishri 15, 5776) TABERNACLES

There will also be four solar eclipses in 2014 and 2015, all on the 29th of the Jewish month:

Apr 29, 2014 Total: (Nisan 29, 5774)
Oct 23, 2014 Partial: (Tishri 29, 5775)
Mar 20, 2015 Total: (Adar 29, 5775), EVE OF NISAN 1, FIRST DAY OF SACRED YR

A Post on the Five Doves site, TO: Marilyn Agee (31 Jan 2010) Day of Christ/Lord

From: Ed Gormley

In your post you said the day of Christ (it is Day of the Lord in important manuscripts older than those used when translating the KJV). I would like to respond to this in the future when I have some time but first could you please let me know what important older manuscripts you are referring to. Blessing - Ed

My reply

I'll copy some of the Introduction to Tichendorf's New Testament. I found it very interesting.

"The authorized version, like Luther's, was made from a Greek text which Erasmus in 1516, and Robert Stephens in 1550, had formed from manuscripts of later date than the tenth century. Whether those manuscripts were thoroughly trustworthy--in other words, whether they exibited the apostolic original as perfectly as possible-- has long been matter of diligent and learned investigation. Since the sixteenth century Greek manuscripts have been discovered of far greater antiquity than those of Erasmus and Stephens; as well as others in Latin, Syriac, Coptic, and Gothic, into which languages the sacred text was translated between the second and fourth centuries; while in the works of the Fathers from the second century downwards, many quotations from the New Testament have been found and compared. And the result has been, that while on the one hand scholars have become aware that the text of Erasmus and Stephens was in use in the Byzantine church long before the tenth century, on the other hand, they have discovered thousands of readings which had escaped the notice of those editors. The question then arose, which reading in each case most correctly represented what the apostles had written? By no means an easy question, since the variations in the documents are very ancient. Jerome notices them, and many were in existence even as early as the fourth century. Scholars are much divided as to the readings which most exactly convey the Word of God, but one thing is agreed upon by the majority of those who understand the subject, namely, that the oldest copies approach the original text more nearly than the later ones.

"Providence has ordained for the New Testament more sources of the greatest antiquity than are possessed by all the old Greek literature put together. And of these, two manuscripts have for long been especially esteemed by Christian scholars, since, in addition to their great antiquity, they contain very nearly the whole of both the Old and New Testaments. Of these two, one is deposited in the Vatican, and the other in the British Museum. Within the last ten years a third has been added to the number, which was found at Mt. Sinai, and is now at St. Petersburg.

"These three manuscripts undoubtedly stand at the head of all the ancient copies of the New Testament, and it is by their standard that both the early editions of the Greek text and the modern versions are to be compared and corrected. Indeed, it is not too much to hope that by their means a Greek text of the New Testament may sooner or later be settled, which shall serve as the basis of translation of all Christian communities. But before this can come about, it is of the greatest interest of all Christians who value the sacred scriptures, to understand the relation which the ordinary Bibles of Europe and America bear to the very ancient documents of which we have been speaking. And it thus appeared to Baron Tauchnitz and myself that it would be to the interests of both peity and learning if we took the occasion of the thousanth volume of the "Tauchnitz Collection" to issue an edition of the English Authorized Version of the New Testament, which should exhibit the various departures of that Version from the three oldest and most important manuscripts.

"The effect of thus comparing the common English text with the most ancient authorities will be as often to disclose agreement as disagreement. True, the three great manuscripts alluded to differ from each other both in age and authority, and no one of them can be said to stand so high that its sole verdict is sufficient to silence all contradiction. But to treat such ancient authorities with neglect would be either unwarrantable arrogance or culpable negligence; and it would be indeed a misunderstanding of the dealings of Providence if, after these documents had been preserved through all the dangers of fourteen or fifteen centuries, and delivered safe into our hands, we were not to receive them with thankfulness as most valuable instruments for the elucidation of truth....

"Before proceeding to speak more particularly of the present edition it will be advisable to say something in detail about the three great manuscripts so often already referred to.

"The first which came into the possession of Europe was the Vatican Codex. Whence it was aquired by the Vatican Library is not known; but it appears in the first catalog of that collection, which dates from the year of 1475.

"The manuscript embraces both the Old and New Testaments. Of the latter, it contains the four Gospels, the Acts, the seven Catholic Epistles, nine of the Pauline Epistles, and the epistle to the Hebrews as far as ix.14, from which verse to the end of the New Testament, it is deficient... The peculiarities of the writing, the arrangement of the manuscript, and the character of the text--especially certain very remarkable readings--all combine to place the execution of the Codex in the fourth century, possibly about the middle of it. Owing to the regulations of the Papal library it was for a long time very difficult to make use of the manuscript. But in the year 1828 an edition of it was undertaken by Angelo Mai, afterwards Cardinal, at the instance of Pope Leo XII. The work did not, however, appear until 1857, three years after Mai's death, and is extremely inaccurate. Many hundred's of it's errors are corrected by the present writer in Novum Testamentum Vaticanum, 1867; and further corrections were supplied by the facsimile edition Vercellone Cozza, 1868, which are included in the Appendix Novi Testamente Vaticani, 1869.

"The Alexandrine Codex was presented to King Charles the First in 1628 by Cyril Lucar, Patriarch of Constantinople, who had himself brought it from Alexandria, of which place he was formerly Patriarch, and whence it derives its name. It...contains both the Old and New Testaments. Of the new, the following passages are wanting:--Matt. 1.1 to XXV.6; John VI. 50 to VIII.52; 2 Cor. iv.13 TO xii. 6. In addition to the Bible, the manuscript contains the epistle of Clemmens Rominus (the only known copy), a letter of Athenasius, and a treatise of Eusebius upon the Psalms. On paleographic and other grounds, it would appear to have been written about the middle of the fifth century....

"The Sinaitic Codex I was so happy as to discover in 1854 and 1859, at the Convent of St. Catherine, on Mt. Sinai, in the latter of which years I brought it to Russia to the Emperor Alexander the Second, at whose instance my second journey to the East was undertaken. It...contains both Old and New Testaments--the latter perfect, without the loss of a single leaf. In addition, it contains the entire Epistle of Barnabus, and a portion of the "Shepherd of Hermas, two books which down to the beginning of the fourth century were looked upon by many as Scripture. All the considerations which tend to fix the date of manuscripts lead to the conclusion that the Siniatic Codex belongs to the middle of the fourth century. Indeed, the evidence is clearer in this case than in that of the Vatican Codex; and it is not improbable...that it is one of the fifty copies of the Scriptures which the Emperor Constantine in the year 331 directed to be made for Byzantium under the care of Eusebius of Caesaria. The entire Codex was published by its discoverer, under the orders of the Emperor of Russia in 1862."

Since "These three manuscripts undoubtedly stand at the head of all the ancient copies of the New Testament, and it is by their standard that both the early editions of the Greek text and the modern versions are to be compared and corrected," I will also copy 2 Thess. 2:1,2 and its footnote from this treasured Tischendorf New Testament someone very nice sent to me.

2Th 2:1 says, "NOW we beseech you, brethren, by the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ, and by our gathering together unto him, That ye be not soon shaken in mind, or be troubled, neither by spirit, nor by word, nor by letter as from us, as that the day of Christ is at hand."

The footnote that refers to the "day of Christ" says, "2 SVA the day of the Lord". This means that it says "day of the Lord" in all three, the Siniatic Codex, the Vatican Codex, and the Alexandrine Codex.

The Day of Christ is the day of the First-Trump Rapture. The Day of the Lord is the day of the Last-Trump Rapture and the Day of God's Wrath.

Verse 3 in the Geneva Bible says, "Let no man deceiue you by any meanes: for that day (i.e., the Day of the Lord, day of the Last-Trump Rapture) shall not come, except there come a DEPARTING (the First-Trump Rapture) first, and that that man of sinne be disclosed, euen the sonne of perdition" (the Satan-possessed False Prophet).

To me, the False Prophet will sit in the Temple Mid-Trib "shewing himself that he is God". Therefore, the First-Trump Rapture will take place before Mid-Trib. I'm hoping the Rapture will be on Ascension Day, Sunday, May 9, 2010.

The Preview of the Rapture in Rev. 1:9-11 shows that the Rapture will be on Sunday, the Lord's Day. None of the feast days fall on Sunday until Firstfruits 16th of Nisan, 5772 = Sun, 8 April 2012. Agape
The Rapture in 2 Thessalonians 2:3
Dr. Thomas Ice

"The Liddell and Scott Greek Lexicon defines apostasia first as "defection, revolt;" then secondly as "departure, disappearance.""

"The verb form "is used for departing from iniquity (2 Tim. 2:19),from ungodly men(1 Tim. 6:5), from the temple (Luke 2:27), from the body (2Cor. 12:8), and from persons (Acts 12:10; Luke 4:13)."

"The best translation of the word (apostasia) is "to depart." The apostle Paul refers here to a definite event which he calls "the departure,""

"Thefirst seven English translations of apostasia all rendered the noun as either"departure" or "departing." Theyare as follows: Wycliffe Bible(1384); Tyndale Bible (1526); Coverdale Bible (1535); Cranmer Bible (1539);Breeches Bible (1576); Beza Bible (1583); Geneva Bible (1608).[5] This supports the notion that the wordtruly means "departure." In fact,Jerome's Latin translation known as the Vulgate from around the time of a.d. 400 renders apostasia with the "word discessio, meaning 'departure.'"[6] Why was the King James Version thefirst to depart from the established translation of "departure"?

"TheodoreBeza, the Swiss reformer was the first to transliterate apostasia and create a new word, rather than translate it asothers had done. The translatorsof the King James Version were the first to introduce the new rendering of apostasia as "falling away.""

"In II Thessalonians 2:3 the word apostasia is prefaced by the definite article which means that Paul is pointing to a particular type of departure clearly known to the Thessalonian church" (See I Thess. 4:16,17).

"When we examine Paul's first letter to the Thessalonians, he never mentions the doctrine of apostasy, however, virtually every chapter in that epistle speaks of the rapture (cf. 1:9-10;2:19; probably 3:13; 4:13-17; 5:1-11)."

"KennethWuest, a Greek scholar from Moody Bible Institute added the followingcontextual support to taking apostasia as a physical departure:

"But then hee apostasia of which Paul is speaking, precedes the revelation of Antichrist inhis true identity, and is to katechon that which holds back his revelation (2:6)."

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