Pro and Con 1573

Posted 10-14-2010



My friend in Pensacola told me that the number 17 means VICTORY, according to Evangelist Ed F. Vallowe's book, "Biblical Mathematics: Keys to Scripture Numerics." That would sure fit the Rapture if it is on Cheshvan 17, the day the Lord shut the door of Noah's Ark and it began to rain.

"The 7th prime number is 17. There are 17 historic books in section 1. There are 5 poetic books in section 2. There are 17 prophetic books in section 3."
"Meaning of Numbers in the Bible"

"The Number Seventeen

"Seventeen stands out very prominently as a significant number. It is not a multiple of any other number, and therefore it has no factors. Hence it is called one of the prime (or indivisible) numbers. What is more, it is the seventh in the list of the prime numbers.

"The prime number series runs 1, 3, 5, 7, 11, 13, 17, etc. Thirteen, it will be noted, is also a prime number, and is therefore important; but it is the sixth of the series: hence it partakes of the significance of the number 6, and is indeed an intensified expression of it.

"In like manner SEVENTEEN being the seventh of the series, it partakes of and intensifies the significance of the number seven. Indeed, it IS THE COMBINATION OR SUM OF TWO PERFECT NUMBERS—SEVEN AND TEN—SEVEN BEING THE NUMBER OF SPIRITUAL PERFECTION, AND TEN OF ORDINAL PERFECTION. (emphasis mine)

"Contrasted together the significance of these two numbers is clear; and when united in the number Seventeen we have a union of their respective meanings, viz., spiritual perfection, plus ordinal perfection, or THE PERFECTION OF SPIRITUAL ORDER."
2Ch 8:16 says, "Now all the work of Solomon was prepared unto the day of the foundation of the house of the LORD, and until it was finished. So the house of the LORD was PERFECTED."

Solomon's Temple was finished, perfected, on Cheshvan 17.

1Ki 6:38 gives us the month. It says, "And in the eleventh year, in the month Bul (or Cheshvan), which is the eighth month, was the house finished throughout all the parts thereof, and according to all the fashion of it. So was he seven years in building it."

The 17th day of Cheshvan is given, for Solomon's completion of the Temple, by numerous sites on the Internet, including the Temple Mount Faithful, but I don't know the source of that 17.

Incoming e-mail FWD from Ron Reese, originally from: Andrey Rasshivaev, a pastor in Russia

Ron Reese:

Ron Reese:

Pastor Andrey Rasshivaev:
> > > Dear brother Ron, My name us Andrey Rasshivaev. I live in Russia. I am very blessed by your revelations, brother! Your feelings and revelations on the closest future go in a full correspondence with mine! I decide to write you and share with you what I have been receiving from the Lord. Below there is my letter to David Wilkerson that I wrote him in the very beginning of this year being led by the Holy Spirit:

> > > Brother David, My name is Andrey Rasshivaev. I live in S-Petersburg, Russia and am a pastor of a non-denominational church.

> > > At the very end of the year of 2007 I have received a revelation from God that the coming 2008 year was going to be the year of the beginning of outpouring of God's judgment upon this world. I told the church about it at the very last Sunday service of 2007. And indeed in the year of 2008 God has struck the financial- economical system of this world. It reminded me like He had struck the Nile river in Egypt. You probably know that inasmuch as in Egypt there was a great lack of rains, the only source of water (and hence the source of economical prosperity) for Egypt was Nile. And that's why this river was struck first. So, if Egypt represents this world, then the Nile represents the economical and financial system of this world.

> > > Therefore we can affirm that God's judgment upon this world has started in the 2008 year.

> > > About half a year ago God has given me a further revelation. He reveled me that the crisis was just the very beginning. The world is going to face the total and complete economical and financial collapse in the Fall of this new 2010 year. This coming collapse will be provoked by very awful, frightful and tragic events that is going to happen in the U.S. As I see it now the N.Y. city is going to be totally destroyed. And it's going to happen unexpectedly, at one day. The whole world will be dipped into chaos and panic. And all those events will be the preparation for the NEW economical system to be built by a ONE world leader-antichrist.

> > > This is what the Holy Spirit has moved me to share with you. Hope you know what to do with this... In Christ, your bro. Andrey.

> > > Also I have posted this letter on the Watchmanscry’s forum( ). Brother Nathan Leal asked me to tell him more about my revelations. And here is what I wrote him:

> > > Yes, brother, I have listened to your message on Dollar's crash.

> > > As regards my prophesy I can add something too. First of all let me tell you how I have received a revelation that the year of 2008 will be the beginning of outpouring of God's judgment upon this world.

> > > Approximately in November of 2007 God gave me a night dream in which I saw water all over the planet turns into blood. When I woke up I asked God for the interpretation of the dream and he told me in my heart that the next year (2008) will be the year of the beginning of his judgment. Then He showed me that in the Bible there are prophetic events that actually predict those coming events in nowadays world.

> > > First of all it relates to the turning of waters of Nile into blood by Moses.

> > > Then He showed me this: "And seven days were fulfilled, after that the LORD had smitten the river." (Gen.7:25)

> > > Seven days are seven years in prophetic sense. So, what has happened in seven days? Frogs came in. In the Bible there is one more passage talking about FROGS. This is Rev.16:13-16:

> > > "And I saw three unclean spirits like frogs [come] out of the mouth of the dragon, and out of the mouth of the beast, and out of the mouth of the false prophet. 14 For they are the spirits of devils, working miracles, [which] go forth unto the kings of the earth and of the whole world, to gather them to the battle of that great day of God Almighty. And he gathered them together into a place called in the Hebrew tongue Armageddon."

> > > Armageddon is the final attempt of antichrist to completely destroy Israel. In other words according to these prophetic scriptures the preparation for this battle will start in 7 years after the world's economical crisis has started, which is in the Fall of 2015! Please, notice that it talks just about a preparation for the battle which may take several months. Therefore I think that the battle itself (Armageddon) will take place in 2016.

> > > I know that those who read English Bible think that the 7 years of tribulation must start with the negotiation between antichrist and Israel. But it sounds this way only in English Bible. In Russian Bible this scripture implies that Christ will make a covenant with many during 7 years. But what is more important the Hebrew text has the same meaning. In other words it predicts that the last 7 years before Christ's coming will be the period when many of Jews will be turned to Him.

> > > Now, let us turn to another prophetic event in the Bible.

> > > I am talking about 7 years of prosperity and then 7 years of famine. God showed me that September 11 of 2001 was the day when the 7 years of prosperity have begun in the world. And indeed since the Fall of 2001 and till the Fall of 2008 there was a real economical boom in the whole world! But September of 2008 was the beginning of "7 years of famine".

> > > Now, let us read the scripture that describes the revelation of Josef to his brothers:

> > > "And Joseph said unto his brethren, Come near to me, I pray you. And they came near. And he said, I [am] Joseph your brother, whom ye sold into Egypt. Now therefore be not grieved, nor angry with yourselves, that ye sold me hither: for God did send me before you to preserve life. For these two years [hath] the famine [been] in the land: and yet [there are] five years, in the which [there shall] neither [be] earing nor harvest. "(Gen.45:4-6)

> > > See, The revelation of Josef (Jesus) to his brothers (Jews) has happened in TWO years after the seven years of famine have begun. It shows us that turning God's face to Jews will happen in the Fall of 2010!!! But this event tightly connected with the removing of the 6-th seal (Rev.6) which in allegorical sense represents the collapse of the U.S. and as a result - total collapse of the world's economy which will deep the whole world into panic and chaos for awhile. Please read Rev.6:12-17 and compare this with a couple of other scriptures: Ezek. 32:1-10 and Is.2:10-21.

> > > And then see what follows the removing of the 6-th seal: Rev.7:1-8 (144.000 Jews out of all tribes of Israel).

> > > P.S. I know that my English is not perfect, but I hope you will be able to understand what I have written here.

> > > Now, why I say that the 6-th seal in the book of revelation represents the U.S. collapse. Because this symbolism (Sun, moon and stars, their strike, and also an earthquake) is used by God when speaking about collapse of Babylon (Is.13:9-13) and Egypt (Ez.32: 7-10). Both countries used to be a “super state”, a super power in those times. They both would stand in the economical and political head of the ancient world. Today there is only one country that still stands in the economical and political head of the world. This is U.S.A.

> > > Hope, brother, this staff will be a confirmation to you. Please, feel free to use it as you think is right.
May God bless you! Brother Andrey.

My expected schedule of events

By Marilyn Agee

I think the 2300-day shortened Tribulation of Dan. 8:13,14 started on Pentecost, Sivan 6, May 29, 2009, and will end with the Day of God's Wrath, which is the Day of the Lord, the Feast of Trumpets, Tishri 1, 5776, Sept. 14, 2015. That is the day literal Babylon, where the foundation of the Tower of Babel still stands, will be obliterated by the impact of Satan's asteroid Wormwood on Earth (Rev 8:11, 18:21 and Isa 22:16-19).

I'm hoping for the First-Trump Rapture on Cheshvan 17, Oct 25, 2010 (Mt. 24:37-44). That's the anniversary of the day the Lord closed the door of Noah's Ark and the rain began and the anniversary of the day Solomon finished the Temple. We are the Temple of the Holy Spirit.

"Meaning of Numbers in the Bible"
"Hebrews 12:18-24 is where the Old Dispensation and the New are thus contrasted"...

"The number seventeen

"Ye are not come
1.Unto the mount that might be touched,
2.And that burned with fire,
3.Nor unto blackness,
4.And darkness,
5.And tempest,
6.And the sound of a trumpet,
7.And the voice of words...

but ye are come
8.Unto Mount Zion (1),
9.And unto the city of the living God (2).
10.The heavenly Jerusalem (3),
11.And to an innumerable company of angels (4),
12.To the general assembly (5),
13.And church of the firstborn which are written in heaven (6),
14.And to God the judge of all (7),
15.And to the spirits of just men made perfect (8),
16.And to Jesus the Mediator of the New Covenant (9),
17.And to the blood of sprinkling that speaketh better things than that of Abel (10)."

I think the Last-Trump Rapture will take place just before the Wrath of God falls on the Feast of Trumpets, Tishri 1, 5776, Sept 14, 2015 (I Cor. 15:51-54; Rev. 6:17 and 7:14). There will be a partial Solar eclipse on the Eve of Trumpets.

According to Dan. 12:11, there are 7 months between that Tishri 1 and the following Nisan 1, 5776, and 5776 is a Leap Year with the 13th month. I think Nisan 1, 5776, April 9, 2016, day of the Second Advent, will be the first day of the Hebrew Sacred, Regnal and Jubilee Years. The final battle of the Angelic Conflict, Armageddon, should start that day, because it is Satan's forces against Christ's forces.

The year 5775 is a Sabbatic Year. It divides by 7 equally. Therefore, the Jubilee year can be announced on the Day of Atonement, Tishri 10, 5776 (Sept. 23, 2015), and start Nisan 1, 5776 (April 9, 2016).

Interesting insight on things that approach from the east or west


"John, a Muslim group much larger than Al-Qaida has just declared war on the West....

"Interestingly, it has been noted that whenever man approaches God on earth he approaches from east to west. It is always true in scripture. The Tabernacle faces east, always east. The entrance was on the east side. Num 3:38. The priest serving his duties in the Tabernacle (and later the Temple) was therefore facing west, his back to the rising sun. Pagans typically face east in their services.

"When Jacob wandered, he went east. When Adam and Eve sinned, they went east. When Cain sinned he went east. The cherubim were positioned at the eastern entrance to keep sin out on Eden. When Esau left, it was east. When Lot left Abraham it was EAST. When Israel was carried away into captivity it was always to the EAST.

When man approaches God it is always going west in scripture. Jacob and his sons went west to join Joseph in Egypt (I'll have to look into this; I assumed they headed south). When Israel enters the promised land they were heading west. Returning from captivity in Babylon, they must go west to Israel. Jacob returns home, going west. The elect of Israel will return home after Antichrist is defeated, going west. The priest always entered the Tabernacle going West and faced the alters looking west. When the priest leaves the Temple he goes east, the wrong way. We are all sinners, having tried both directions. It is one of those little distinctions demonstrating that the Bible is no ordinary book, it is designed every jot and tittle. A consistent, unobtrusive, hidden pattern , weaving its way through scripture."

Over the ages, the Gospel has moved around the earth from east to west. It has now circled the sphere. Evil has declared war on the west.

Incoming e-mail

"The Final Countdown "
By F.M. Riley (11 Oct 2010)

“So teach us to number our days, that we may apply our hearts unto wisdom.” Psalms 90:12


My recent Bible studies entitled “The Great Jubilee” and “The Sabbath Years” were written to emphasize that this present “dispensation of grace” is within DAYS of being completed. This was Scripturally proven by going to the sounding of the trumpet on the Jewish Day of Atonement [as explicitly commanded in Leviticus 25:8-13], September 30, 2017, which will proclaim the next Jubilee year [the 120th Jubilee] and the beginning of the Millennial Kingdom of the Lord Jesus Christ on earth. From that date I counted backwards the 2,550 days which the Scriptures require for the Tribulation period to be completed before the Jubilee year begins. Those who have read the study know that my count backwards ended on October 8, 2010.

I also pointed out in that study that the count could vary by A FEW DAYS due to the uncertainty of the exact day when “the daily sacrifice shall be taken away, and the abomination that maketh desolate set up,” [Daniel 12:11] during the Tribulation period.

I am writing this present study to re-emphasize to all those who have “seeing eyes” and “hearing ears” [Matthew 13:11; 13:16] that we are now living within this period of 2,550 days, and therefore we are literally living “on borrowed time.” In this study I purpose to “drive home” this point. Let’s get started…..

Chart of Days

This chart (omitted) will illustrate each passing day of time up from October 8, 2010 until the exact number of days required for the seven year Tribulation in the inspired Scriptures has been reached.

Dear readers, 2,520 days is the EXACT number of days required for the seven year Tribulation period by the inspired revelation of God’s Word. This is determined by adding the 1,260 days in which God’s “two witnesses” and the 144,000 saved, sealed, and commissioned Jewish evangelists will minister God’s Word during the first half of the Tribulation, to the 42 months [1,260 days] in which “the Gentiles” shall tread “the holy city…..under foot” during the last half of the Tribulation for a total of 2,520 days.

Once the 2,520 days have been reached [if we get that far], then the ONLY “possible” variation would have to be the Lord’s own statement in Matthew 24:22, “And except those days should be shortened, there should no flesh be saved: but for the elect’s sake those days shall be shortened.”


Folks, we who are true New Testament believers are living on “borrowed time” RIGHT NOW. Every passing day brings us closer to the end of this present dispensation and therefore to the resurrection and pre-tribulation rapture of God’s people. If any true believer is not living each day “looking for that blessed hope, and the glorious appearing of the great God and our Savior Jesus Christ,” then I say without apology that such believers are living in direct disobedience to the explicit commands of God’s Word as clearly stated in Titus 2:11-15 and Mark 13:35-37.

Our opportunity as believers to obey the Lord and His Word is fast running out. God’s people [true believers] can “receive a full reward” [2 John 1:8] or we can “be ashamed before Him at His coming,” 1 John 2:28. The choice is ours to make. I have made mine! That is why I am continuing to “blow the trumpet of God’s Word and warn the people” [Ezekiel 33:1-9], even in the face of mockery and scorn on the part of some who call themselves “Christians” [??]. Sic! This brief study may very well be YOUR FINAL WARNING! Think about it!

May the Lord stir the hearts of every reader to “look up,” knowing that our day of redemption is “drawing nigh,” Luke 21:28; Romans 8:19-23.

Comet 103P Hartley 2 update

The comet is now in Perseus. It is becoming easier to see below Cassiopeia, the Bride of Christ as Queen. It will make its closest approach to Earth, just over 11 million miles away on Oct. 20, just 5 days before Cheshvan 17, the anniversary of the day the Lord shut the door of Noah's Ark. This comet's approach will be one of the closest of any comet in the last few centuries. On Oct. 7 and 8, it was close to the Double Cluster in Perseus. From there, it will turn southeast and pass near Perseus' head. After that, it will go through Puppis, the Poop Deck of the ship Argo that represents the raptured traveler's sailing to Heaven. It is pictured with the sail reefed and the ship backing into the dock. That is picture perfect for the Rapture.

It will proceed to Gemini by the end of October. In November it will be heading south across Gemini, Monoceros, and into Puppis, which is the Poop deck of the ship Argo that represents the raptured traveler's trip to Heaven.

A good picture of comet Hartley 2 Touring the solar system with a 6 year orbital period, small comet Hartley 2 (103/P Hartley) will make its closest approach to planet Earth on October 20 and its closest approach to the Sun on October 28. It may become a naked-eye comet, just visible in clear, dark skies. Meanwhile the comet has been a tempting telescopic target, seen here with an alluring green coma as it shares the frame with emission nebula NGC 281 and stars of the constellation Cassiopeia on October 2. The nebula's gaping profile defined by dust clouds against the red glow suggests its more playful moniker, the Pacman Nebula. An apparent short bright streak shows the comet's motion against the background stars during the hour of accumulated exposure time. Over the next few days Comet Hartley 2's motion will also carry it across a field of view featuring the famous double star cluster in Perseus. On November 4 a spacecraft from planet Earth will actually fly within about 700 kilometers of the comet's nucleus.

Water carried on asteroids...common

Frozen water on asteroids may be more common than previously thought, according to new research that will help to support the idea they might have carried the key ingredient for life to the Earth.

By Richard Gray, Science Correspondent
Published: 10:50AM BST 09 Oct 2010

Water ice and organic molecules that help to form the basis of life have been discovered on a second asteroid, called 65 Cybele, by astronomers....

The researchers made a similar discovery in April this year when they discovered the first evidence of ice on an asteroid called 24 Themis.

Both this asteroid and the latest discovery are found in the asteroid belt.

My comment

To me, that proves that Satan's planet Rehab that split apart had water. I thought it did, but this is proof.

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