Pro and Con 16
Incoming mail, Re: Your sources
I had someone tell me he thinks you have probably not studied souces such as the Koran to corroborate your findings and find parrallels. I think you probably have. What is the answer?...He thinks you would find some or many parrallels in almost all faiths. I think you are so thorough that you have already done this.
Not to the extent ______ would probably wish. Every time I pick up
and start to read other so-called sacred books, I can't get very far
before I start to cry. On one, on an eastern religion, I persisted half
way through, trying my best to read through the tears, and had to quit.
I persisted because a young man that came to my house about 1969 or '70
brought it and wanted me to read it. I could tell it was wrong, and the
Holy Spirit in me must have agreed. I couldn't even read the book of
Mormon that sits there gathering dust on my shelf. It has the sound of
Scripture, but you can read paragraph after paragraph after paragraph,
and it never says much of anything. Real Scripture is so packed with
information, we'll never get to the end of it in this lifetime.
It seems so obvious to me that the Hebrew scriptures are the only real
truth we have that I'm staking my life on it. Our Saviour rose from the
dead. As far as I know, none other but Tammuz even claimed to, and you
can be certain that the Mystery Religion of Babylon was a Satanic
counterfiet. The Lord worked so many miracles with Israel as proof, I
don't know how anyone could doubt the Bible. The Lord's prophecies have
come true 100%. No one else has even come close.
The reason there are parallels is that Satan tries his best to
counterfeit the truth to confuse mankind. This is part of the Angelic
...I am so concerned about my friends being forewarned that I plan to order books every month and mail them out. It is the only thing I can think of to get the message to them.
About pets...I have a little Yorkie that I have had for a number of years. I have decided to go to "Customer Relations" when I get to heaven and do some bargaining. I agree with you, we just have to leave it all to God....
I found one copy of The End of the Age at a Hastings Book Store , guess it was waiting for me. I have read every word. I have such great admiration for your work...I can appreciate your investigative work. It is just superb.
Bless you. I love your statement about your Yorkie. Dr. Talbot once said that we are going to be happy in Heaven, and if it takes having our pets there, they will be there. I just trust the Lord to work all things together for good for those that love the Lord. Anyway, I Cor. 2:9 says, "Eye hath not seen, nor ear heard, neither have entered into the heart of man, the things which God hath prepared for them that love him." I sure love him, so am looking forward to these new things.
As far as what I have found out, I could not have done it alone. Of course, I applied myself to the in-depth study of Scripture, but the Lord deserves the credit for the end results. He brought things to my attention in so many unexpected ways. My cousin asked how I found all the information I needed. I couldn't tell him exactly. I might go to the doctor and find something I needed in a magazine on the table, or go out for fast food, pick up a newspaper that was left on the table, and find another fact that fit the puzzle.
In Scripture, I learned as I wrote. The Lord would help my mind make new associations I hadn't thought of before. Rev. 4:3 is an example. The "jasper and a sardine stone" represent "the first and the last" that Jesus calls himself in Rev. 22:13, because the Jasper and "sardine" were the first and last stones in the breastplate of the High Priest. The "rainbow round about the throne" was "like unto an emerald" because the emerald stood for Judah in the breastplate. Jesus is of the tribe of Judah. Here Yahwehshua (Y'shua) sits on this throne as the "first" (Yahwah) and also comes before Yahweh as the "last," our "shua" (Saviour). His dual natures are revealed here. As Yahweh, he was actually sitting on the throne. This is why the symbolic "Lamb as it had been slain" was used in Rev. 5:6.
When I needed to look up Isaiah 22, I think it was President Truman that was given a 22" statue of Isaiah. I saved the newspaper clipping and decided to read Isaiah 22. This is what I found: "What hast thou here (Babylon)? and whom hast thou here (the Satan-possessed False Prophet), that thou hast hewed thee out a sepulchre here, as he (Satan) that heweth him out a sepulchre on high, and that graveth an habitation for himself in a rock (first on Rahab and then on an asteroid split off of Rahab)? Behold, the LORD will carry thee away with a mighty captivity, and will surely cover thee. He will surely violently turn and toss thee like a ball into a large country (the asteroid will hit Iraq, not tiny Israel): there shalt thou die, and there the chariots of thy glory shall be the shame of thy lord's house. And I will drive thee from thy station, and from thy state shall he pull thee down."
I even learned as I taught those college-age kids that used to come to my house in 1969 and '70 to study the Bible with me. I told them what was coming at the end of this age, when it was going to take place, and how to figure it out from the scriptures. One night, someone suggested we study I John 2:18f. I started to read, "Little children, it is the last time" and suddenly realized that this was written to these kids. Many of them called themselves "Jesus Freaks." They are living in the end of the age. What follows is astonishing when you get hold of the meaning of "Little children." It says, "But ye have an unction (anointing) from the Holy One, and ye know ALL things. I have not written unto you because ye know not the truth, but because ye know it...But the anointing which ye have received of him abideth in you, and ye need not that any man teach you: but as the same anointing teacheth you of ALL things, and is truth, and is no lie, and even as it hath taught you, ye shall abide in him. And now, little children, abide in him; that, when he shall appear, we may have confidence, and not be ashamed before him at his coming."...
...I will probably read it several more times as your books have so much information in them I want to make sure I have a thorough grasp of things.
I have been using your material as well as others to help our church wake up and be ready for the rapture. It is amazing to me how many people have their heads buried in the sand and don't even want to here about the soon return of Jesus.
Your web site has been a blessing to many. Keep up the good work....
You have certainly put a lot of hard work into your books and I want you to know it is all worth the effort to bible prophesy students like me. I straightened around my life when I found out time as we know it is so short. I can now help others to do the same. May GOD bless you!
Thank you for all those nice comments. It is nice to appreciated. I especially am glad to hear you say,
> I straightened around my life when I found out time as we know it is so short.
> I can now help others to do the same.
And may GOD bless you too
...I love your straight-forward approach to spelling out EXACTLY how the 400's relate to today. If they can't make the connection from your explanation, they don't want to know. It surely does fit with today's dates, doesn't it.
...I was thinking of the type of the church which might relate to Nebuchadnezzar's image. Jesus is the head of the body of Christ, the Church. The body had two arms in the early years, Rome and Constantinople, then possibly two legs, Catholics and the reformation (?), and now the feet, the two churches, Philadelphia and Laodicia. Am I stretching the comparison? The more the comparison of the feet as climbing a ladder one by one, "...lest you dash your foot against a stone....", "...you will bruise his heel..." etc, the more rational it seems. The preponderance of evidence is on your side. I have difficulty seeing how people fail to make the connection but know how minds can be closed to the truth when people are determined to prove their own case.
Thanks. I'm glad you liked what I wrote about the 400's. If it makes sense to you, it should make sense to others. I think "straight-forward approach" pretty well describes my style. I want it to be understood more than anything else. I want it to be as clear as I can make it.
In reading, I hate to finish a page and still not be entirely certain what the author was trying to say. When leaving church, I hate to walk out wondering what the pastor said. It is not that I didn't listen, or that I didn't understand what was being said at the time, but that it was something so commonplace that I had already heard so much that it did not make any lasting impression on my mind. Now if I learned something from that sermon, you can bet I took notes on it and remember it as I leave.
I want to show people some things they may not have noticed or been taught before, not just rehash the baby stuff, as I call it. There is plenty of that out there for the new Christians who need it.
As mature Christians, we are supposed to go on from there. Hebrews 6 starts out, "THEREFORE leaving the principles of the doctrine of Christ, let us go on unto perfection; not laying again the foundation of repentance from dead works, and of faith toward God, Of the doctrine of baptisms, and of laying on of hands, and of resurrection of the dead, and of eternal judgment. And this will we do, if God permit."
Hebrews 5:11,12 says, "Of whom we have many things to say, and hard to be uttered, seeing ye are dull of hearing. For when for the time ye ought to be teachers, ye have need that one teach you again which be the first principles of the oracles of God; and are become such as have need of milk, and not of strong meat....strong meat belongeth to them that are of full age, even those who by reason of use have their senses exercised to discern both good and evil."
We are living in the end of the age. The church already has white hair. If we are ever going to get the strong meat while on this Earth, it must be before the Lord's return. I figure the best time is now. I'm sure you do too.
You raise some good questions about the Body of Christ. I'm too tired tonight to think it through. We drove about 100 miles today and have to drive 140 tomorrow. I will give it some thought. There is a good chance that the parts all tie in with the seven churches of Rev. Thanks for bringing it to my attention.
Right on! We do need meat, not milk. Good chance that the seven churches may describe the body, as you mention. I saw a PBS documentary in 1991 in which the author had worked with a group of astronomers who had mapped about 1/3 of the known universe from a lateral perspective, taking slices across from front to back by
computerization. They presented a graphic presentation of the 1/3 of the universe and pointed out that so far they had discovered that in mapping the stars (laterally, not an "AP" or front-to-back view -like a chest x-ray) they had discovered that the map looked like an image of a man with spread legs and outstretched arms. They were going to complete the mapping but I never heard anymore about it. Also don't
know who did it. It runs in my mind that it was some academic group in
I recall on viewing the map thinking that the design must be laid out in the image of God. Maybe that's why the work never got any more publication. Academic types would hate to admit that the universe had been laid out by God in His own image.
That is so interesting. I wish I had seen that documentary. Thanks for telling me about it. I am posting it. Maybe someone else on the Internet can tell us more about it.
I have been studying biblical prophecy for quite some time and after reading your book "The End of the Age" many of the loose were tied up. Wish I could have discovered you book many years ago. Thank You.
I am glad you like my book. I could never have done it alone. The Lord really deserves the credit for helping me understand.
I keep on learning too. A correspondent, Bob Ware, said that 1948 + 50 = 1998 and that 1917 + 50 = 1967. That is interesting. Not only is 1998 fifty years after Israel became a nation in 1948, but 1967 (the Sign of the End of the Age) is 50 years after 1917 (when Gen. Allenby took Jerusalem and the Balfour Declaration was signed). I don't remember thinking of that one before. God doesn't miss a trick; does he.
When I wrote "Exit: 2007: The Secrets of Secrets Revealed" (also published by Avon Books as "The End of the Age"), I had surmised where Heaven was, but had said to myself, "Nah, it can't be there." Later, I found out that it really is there. Anyway, disregard anything I said about where it might be in "The End of the Age." That was a wild guess which turned out to be wrong.
When I found out that The Revelation was written as if the Rapture was "at hand," that made some scriptures clear that I had not fully understood before. This whole time, since before 1960, has been a never-ending learning process for me.
I must tell you that I have read many & I mean many books on end times & I
enjoyed yours the very best by far.
Not only because I share in many of your views but because of how you fearlessly "put yourself out there" without fear, now thats faith! I knew it would take a woman to figure all this out & step out and write about it...Thank you and God Bless you, I hope to chat with you in Paradise soon!
My faith is very strong. There is absolutely no room in my life for doubt about our God and Lord Jesus Christ. However, I may not have had the courage to stick my neck out on dates of I had not seen a rectangle of light on Jer. 50:2 that said, "Declare ye among the nations, and publish, and set up a standard; publish, and conceal not."
I just have to take my chances. But remember this. I am not a prophet. I can be wrong. I am just telling how it looks to me. I keep finding out more and more things, and they all fit the same pattern, so I get more confident all the time.
One man told me on the phone the other day that he had thought for a long time that Pentecost 1998 would be the date of the Rapture because that is the only time Pentecost falls on Sunday in the whole 40 years. I hadn't realized that. Today, I was reading some of Bob Ware's material. He said 1948 + 50 = 1998 and also that 1917 + 50 = 1967. That's interesting because Gen. Allenby took Jerusalem and the Balfour Declaration was signed in 1917. The year 1967 was the Sign of the End of the Age. I had not thought about 1917 to 1967 also being 50 years.
Regardless of the exact date, what does it hurt to be prepared? I want as many as possible to be wise virgins and be chosen as the Bride of Christ and go in the first Rapture....
Er...wait!...but could it be?...uh...hmmph....................................PRAISE THE LORD! This is exciting....I had recognized the approaching millenial Sabbath Rest....I however LOVE your web site. It caught my attention a few weeks back, so I bookmarked it. Two days ago I decided to visit -- and I haven't been able to stop reading your material since. As I said before, I grew up...clearly recognizing the significance and near approach of Christ's millenial reign as the Sabbath Rest.
You have many skeptics, but the wise ARE watching and they understand the truth you are presenting!
I sure appreciate your kind words. As for uncovering profound insights, the Lord deserves the credit for that. He answered my desperate prayer for understanding. I tried so hard on my own (7 years of constantly reading books from BIOLA's Seminary Collection) to figure out what the scriptures meant and reached a point where I still had questions with no answers. All that was left was ask the Lord's help.
He honored that prayer beyond anything I could have imagined or wished for. I didn't realize what I was asking. In spite of all my intensive study, I had no idea of how much more was in the Bible. It has to be God breathed. No man could pack so much information into such a small book and do it in such a way that the wicked would not understand, but the wise would understand.
I understand skeptics that think that we cannot know when the Rapture and Second Advent will take place, for I stood in their shoes up until 1968 myself. But the Six-Day War changed all that. It took me another year to see God's plan, but it simmered there on the back burner in my brain that whole year. Finally, it all came together. Suddenly, I saw God's plan for the end of this age. I have tried both to prove and disprove it. I do not care which way any certain issue goes. I have no pet theory to defend. I only want the truth, let the chips fall where they may. However, if I can clearly see that the scriptures mean a certain thing, I will try to show people why I think they mean that, whether they agree with me or not. Each person is responsible to God and should do their own research, as you have indicated you will do. That is the right way to do it. I can be wrong, but Scripture is absolute truth.
Nothing major in my understanding of the Plan of God has changed since 1968 but the date of the Rapture of the Tribulation saints. At first, I thought it was in the middle of the Tribulation, but found out a bit later on that it is at the end of the Shortened Tribulation. I should have known the Lord would not leave those that accepted Christ during the last half of the Tribulation on Earth to go through the Day of God's Wrath.
The most important thing you said was, "I plan to be ready and included in the first Rapture." This is what is paramount today. We need to realize that it can happen shortly and feel the urgency of being ready. We also need to give some thought to sending treasures ahead to Heaven. If we don't, we will wish we had.
Incoming Mail, Re: Newly found
Greetings in the name of our coming King. I have been looking for His coming for many years now and, like you, I have been studying the Word to discover the truth.
My son recommended a visit to your site and I will come again as you have much to share....
Now I will need to set more time aside to visit and sahre on your site as well.
May the Lord guide and bless you as you are lead by His Spirirt.
May the Lord guide and bless you as you are lead by His Spirit too. I would like to hear from you as you look over the material on my Web site. The Lord has helped me to understand some things that, as far as I know, no one else has figured out, even the "secret of his tabernacle" (Psa. 27:5).
Today's Press-Telegram (9-5-97) has an interesting article that ties in with my Web page on The Mind-boggling Catastrophe Before the Creation of Adam.
"Huge asteroid crater linked to Earth meteors," by Paul Recer (AP), says,
"A cosmic collision billions of years ago punched a hole the size of Ohio in the asteroid Vesta and sent into space chunks of rock that even now are falling to Earth as meteorites... Peter C. Thomas, a space researcher at Cornell...said...that a space rock about 19 miles in diameter smashed into Vesta at about 11,000 miles per hour, gouging out a crater more than 285 miles wide and about eight miles deep. The crater...covers almost 75 percent of one side of Vesta.... Vesta is about 330 miles across... Thomas said researchers using remote chemical analysis techniques determined more than 30 years ago that about 6 percent of the meteorites recovered on Earth had the same chemistry as Vesta....Now...a close-up view of Vesta by the Hubble Space Telescope confirms that the asteroid is, in fact, scarred by a collision...The Hubble pictures were taken in May."
Incoming mail, Re: Prophecy Site
Countdown to Armageddon shows us how the rapture will acure in 1999...
You have a very nice web site
I appreciate your saying I have a very nice web site. Yours is nicely decorated, but I cannot agree with your timeline, which is as follows:
"1998: Peace of Israel (White Horse)
1999: Beginning of World War III (Red Horse)
1999: Famine and Econamic Ruin (Black Horse)
1999: The Rapture
1999: End of World War III (Pale Horse)
1999: Rise of the Antichrist
2000: Israel signs an alliance with the Antichrist
2000: Israel builds their 3rd Temple on Mount Moriah
2000: Two witnesses of God preach at the Temple.
2003: Antichrist enters the Temple of God and kills the prophets of God.
2003: Antichrist proclaims himself God and takes over the temple. (Mark of
the beast is given)
2004: God curses the Kingdom of the Antichrist.
2006: China rejects the Antichrist and goes to war with the beast (Battle of
2007: Second Coming of Christ
2007: Judgement Day
2007: 1000 year Kingdom of God."
Aside from the fact that you have the Rapture after the white, red and black horses of the Tribulation, etc., here are some important things I disagree with.
In your details, you have Ezekiel 38:18-20 before the Rapture. However, the ones to be Raptured are not to be subjected to the fury of God.
Ezekiel 38:18-20 says, "And it shall come to pass at the same time when Gog shall come against the land of Israel, saith the Lord GOD, that MY FURY shall come up in my face....Surely in that day there shall be a great shaking in the land of Israel; So that the fishes of the sea, and the fowls of the heaven, and the beasts of the field, and all creeping things that creep upon the earth, and all the men that are upon the face of the earth, shall shake at my presence, and the mountains (two main pieces of an asteroid, Rev. 8:8,10) shall be thrown down."
Verse 22 says, "I will rain upon him, and upon his bands, and upon the many people that are with him, an overflowing rain, and great hailstones, fire, and brimstone."
This is the day of the Wrath of God, the day that Rapture II will take place before the "mountains" strike Earth at noon (Psa. 91:6; Amos 8:9). This is on the first day of the Millennium, the 2300th day of the Tribulation (Dan. 8:14). Rapture I must take place before the Tribulation begins. The "Come up hither" of Rev. 4:1 comes before Rev. 6, when the first seal is broken. The things following 4:1 are after the Rapture. Rev. 4:1 says, "Come up hither, and I will shew thee things which MUST BE HEREAFTER."
You listed Mt. 24:29-31 as a proof text for the Rapture in 1999. It says, "Immediately after the tribulation...shall the sun be darkened, and the moon shall not give her light, and the stars shall fall from heaven, and the powers of the heavens shall be shaken...And he shall send his angels with a great sound of a trumpet, and they shall gather together his elect from the four winds, from one end of heaven to the other." These gathered from Heaven were caught up in Rapture I before the Tribulation.
Mark 13:24,27 says, "after that tribulation, the sun shall be darkened...And then shall he send his angels, and shall gather together his elect from the four winds, from the uttermost part of the earth to the uttermost part of heaven." Those gathered from the Earth are the Tribulation Saints in Rapture II. Those gathered from Heaven are the Church Saints who were caught up before the Tribulation in Rapture I.
Psalm 91:8-15 says, "Only with thine eyes shalt thou behold and see the reward of the wicked. Because thou hast made the LORD, which is my refuge, even the most High, thy habitation; There shall no evil befall thee...For he shall give his angels charge over thee, to keep thee in all thy ways. They shall bear thee up in their hand, lest thou dash thy foot (i.e., the last foot of the Body of Christ to be born into a new world) against a stone (plenty of stones will fly because of the asteroid impact)....I will set him on high (Rapture II), because he hath known my name. I will be with him in trouble (the Time of Jacob's Trouble); I will deliver him."
Rapture II takes place between the breaking of seals 6 and 7. The sixth seal is broken in Rev. 6:12, the seventh in Rev. 8:1. Between them the Tribulation saints are seen in Heaven in Rev. 7:14. After the seventh seal is broken, the seven trumpet judgments hit Earth. As the second trumpet sounds, "a great mountain burning with fire was cast into the sea" (Rev. 8:8). This is the piece of the asteroid that hits the Mediterranean Sea and destroys Gaza, Ashkelon and the cities of the coast. "For Gaza shall be forsaken, and Ashkelon a desolation: they shall drive out Ashdod at the noon day, and Ekron shall be rooted up. Woe unto the inhabitants of the sea coast" (Zeph 2:4,5).
As the third trumpet sounds, "a great star (aster)" falls from heaven, burning as it were a lamp (Rev. 8:10). This asteroid destroys Babylon on the Euphrates. Rev. 18:21 says, "And a mighty angel took up a stone like a great millstone, and cast it into the sea, saying, Thus with violence shall that great city Babylon be thrown down, and shall be found no more at all."
You said that there will be nine months between the peace treaty and WW III "For when they shall say, Peace and Safety; then sudden destruction cometh upon them as travail upon a woman with child:and they shall not escape. (birth pains upon a pregnant woman)."
However, I Thess 5:3 says, "sudden destruction." That does not cover a nine month period. Birth pains normally come only when the child is full term. I have had two babies. I know. Why would you see pregnant women out shopping if they were enduring birth pains the whole time? I felt great until the labor pains began.
Please do not go by Nostradamus in deciding when you think the Rapture will take place. Only the Bible is reliable. I pray that you will rethink your position.
His reply, Re: Prophecy Site
Well, all I can say is that you and I don't agree on prophecy. We can debate scripture till we turn blue in the face, and it still won't solve anything because we both feel we know prophecy.
I see that believe in two raptures, interesting.
Well, the only way to sovle this is to play the waiting game, when you see that the rapture won't acure in Pentecost 1998, then perhaps at that time you will see there is only one rapture. and that is the one that will acure between revelation 6 and 7.
The only thing you will see acure in 1998 will be the peace signing of Israel which will acure around the time of pentecost. why you ask? because from peace signing to 9 months after will be the winter of 1999.
But pray ye that your flight be not in the "WINTER", neither on the sabbath day: For then shall be great tribulation, such as was not since the beginning of the world to this time, no, nor ever shall be.
9 months as Paul said, to the winter as Jesus said. "Winter 1999" Mind blowing Isen't it.
but again, lets wait and see.
Take care Marilyn, and God bless you.
My reply, Re: What we can agree on
We can agree to disagree without being disagreable. We are both trying hard to understand a difficult subject. If we are right about Christ, we can be wrong about other things and still make it to Heaven. Believers are all different parts of the Body of Christ. We are all bound together in the agape love of God.
Now that I have told you some of what I disagree with, I do want to tell you what I agree with. You are right on the money with these two statements:
>2007: Judgement Day
>2007: 1000 year Kingdom of God.
The first day of the millennial Day of the Lord is Tishri 1, The Feast of Trumpets, 5768 (our September 13, 2007). It is neither on the Sabbath or in the winter. That is a day like no other--ever. On this day (Jesus' birthday) Jesus Christ receives his golden crown. The Marriage of the Lamb takes place. The Tribulation Saints are caught up in Rapture II. The Judgment Seat of Christ takes place, and the Marriage Supper of the Lamb also happens that day. And this is just in Heaven.
On Earth, the asteroid (probably a binary that splits apart at the Roche Limit) will destroy civilization as we know it. This is the Day of God's Wrath. The united nations army that is attacking Israel will be so decimated that only 1/6th will survive. It will take Israel 7 months to bury the bodies.
When Israel first became a nation when she came out of Egypt, the 19-year olds were the young. Those 20 and up were counted and died in the wilderness. Those 19 + 40 went into the Promised Land.
Israel became a nation again in 1948. Nineteen years later, she grew leaves in the Six-Day War, fulfilling the Fig Tree Parable while still "apalos," young. Forty years later, those in the wilderness again go into the Promised Land. (1948 + 19 = 1967 + 40 = 2007).
I have been studying the Bible intensively for 37 years. If you want to discuss the pros and cons of anything, let me know. I would be pleased to help you understand.
My heartfelt thanks to all who like my Web Site. God's wonderful blessings on you all. May we meet at the assembly in Heaven right after the Rapture.
(Mrs.) Marilyn J. Agee
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