Pro and Con 1639

Posted 12-1-11

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Great Seal of the United States


By Marilyn Agee, 12-1-11

(1) Dec. 21, 2011 (Wed, Kislev 25, 5772): first day of Hanukkah, the Feast of Dedication, the Feast of Lights, probably the day of the Rapture of the wise virgins whose lamps are shining brightly. John 10:22,23 says, "And it was at Jerusalem the feast of the dedication, and it was winter. 23 And Jesus walked in the temple in Solomon's porch.") Dec. 21 is considered the first day of winter, and the first day of Hanukkah is not always in the winter.

(2) Dec. 21, 2012 (Fri, Teveth 8, 5773), end of the Mayan Calendar: could be Mid-Trib, when the False Prophet will become Satan-possessed and sit in the Temple pretending to be God. These first two dates sure catch my eye when written this way, 12, 21, 11 and 12, 21, 12.

(3) Sat, April 9, 2016 (Sabbath Day, Nisan 1, 5776, first day of the Sacred, Regnal and Jubilee Years) seems to be the day of the Second Advent, when Jesus will put the Beast and False Prophet in the Lake of Fire.

I think the Lord knew a long time ago that I was going to write this. Why? I have actually seen this round 12' high Aztec Calendar Stone in the fabulous National Museum of Anthropology in Mexico City. Ed, as top salesman of Dietzgen products in the US at the time, won a trip to Mexico City. We spent a whole day in that fabulous Museum, one of the best in the world. Their most prized possession is that Aztec Calendar Stone. That day was the highlight of our trip. Now the Aztec, Mayan and Cherokee Indian Calendars all tie in. Hmm. Ed's grandmother was a Cherokee Indian, another reminder.

Below is a picture of the Aztec Calendar stone as pictured in our Capitol in Washington, D.C. Why would something from South America be picked instead of something from North America to use in our Capitol? It could tie in with the end of the Mayan Calendar, Dec. 21, 2012.

It is obvious that the layout of the city of Washington, D.C. was planned by Masons. The Capitol building has the dome that stands for the womb with the figure of Isis on top of it. It faces the Washington Monument, an obelisk which is 666 inches wide and 6666 inches high. Is it tied in with the Mark of the Beast in Rev 13:18? It is possible. The dome and obelisk in Washington, D.C. match up with the dome and obelisk at St. Peter's Cathedral in Vatican City too. Why? There are Masons at the Vatican too.

Ed and I also took a side trip to see the Pyramid of the Sun and the Pyramid of the Moon near Mexico City. Those could tie in too. The Tower of Babel Nimrod was building was a pyramid.

That eye over the pyramid on the Great Seal represents the pagan Sun god. Rays of light stream out of that eye. It is known by several different names, such as "APOLLO/OSIRIS/NIMROD".

Charles Thomson, the designer, coined the motto: "Annuit Coeptis." He placed it above the "Eye of Providence" and explained that it signified the "many signal interpositions of providence in favor of the American cause." What American cause? Is there some secret cause? Providence means deity, but he may have had the Masonic god Lucifer in mind, not the true God.

To pull it all together for me, my friend in Pensacola sent me Thomas Horn's book, "Apollyon Rising 2012." The title of Chapter 11 is "WHEN APOLLO/OSIRIS/NIMROD, SON OF LUCIFER, SHALL COME." Tom Horn thinks the Antichrist will come in 2012. The False Prophet might become Satan-possessed and sit in the Temple playing God on Dec. 21, 2012.

"Nod assent to the daring work I have in hand" is the best translation I found of the motto "Annuit Coeptis" at the top of the reverse of the Great Seal. What is to be tried is truly daring. It has to be. It is literally Lucifer's last stand. He will be thrown out of heaven Mid-Trib, enter into the False Prophet and sit in the Temple in Jerusalem as if he was God.

It sure looks like the Rapture of the wise-virgin Philadelphian Church saints might take place on Dec. 21, 2011. At the present time, we are the Temple of the Holy Spirit. The literal Temple in Jerusalem can be built after we are gone. Then one year later, Satan will probably enter into the False Prophet and sit in the Temple as if he was God.

"Novus ordo seclorum," on the bottom of the Great Seal, means "New order of the ages," and this New Order is intended to be headed up by the Satan-possessed False Prophet.

Read more: Even more calendars predict End in 2012

In Ron Reese's letter below, Bonnie Gaunt had a lot to say about 333. She mentioned Mt. Hermon. Just now, I looked down at Tom Horn's book in my lap and there was a picture of Mt. Hermon (p. 322) and the 33.33 was marked. I better get busy and tell you what I think this all adds up to.

I think Tom Horn is right about the False Prophet sitting in the Temple on Dec. 21, 2012, but there is more to this story than that.

It is sobering to think that these things were fully understood by the Masons that designed the main buildings, monuments, and the layout of the city streets of the capital city, Washington, DC, and probably the Great Seal of the United States.

If those Masons understood, Satan must have understood the timing from the beginning. I think he set up those Indian Calendars and their Luciferic religions. How else would they correlate and mark both the coming and the end of the False Prophet?

I don't know who gave Tom Horn the First-degree Trestle-Board on page 273 of his book, where the top steps of the pyramid are dated, but I have an idea that the secret of that pyramid is that it does give us the years of the False Prophet's reign. He comes in 2012 and leaves in 2016. That, my friends, would really be Satan's last stand. When Christ returns, the Beast and False Prophet will be tossed into the Lake of Fire.

The date on the top left is 13 Katuns of 19.7 years each. Added to the 1776 at the bottom, the top date on the left is 2012. The date on the right is 13 cycles of 20 years each, and the top date is 2016. That fits in perfectly with what I already know.

The Mayan Calendar ends on Dec. 21, 2012, so that is probably the date the False Prophet will become Satan-possessed and sit in the Temple playing God. That reinforces my expectation that the First-Trump Rapture will be Dec. 21, 2011, the first day of Hanukkah, the 8th feast. Eight is Jesus' number, and Hanukkah is a perfect time for the wise virgins to be raptured. This all fits together.

The date on the top step on the right side is 2016. That is probably when Jesus will return and put the Beast and False Prophet in the Lake of Fire. I think that will be on the first day of the Jubilee Year, Nisan 1, 5776, April 9, 2016, the birthday of the gal that sent me Tom Horn's book. She also is the one that asked me what the date of Jesus' conception would be on the Gregorian Calendar. That turned out to be on my birthday, December 13, in 6 BC.

Knowing that the 33rd Degree Masons worship Lucifer makes me think that just maybe that eye above the pyramid stands for Lucifer and the dates on the top left give us the date that the False Prophet becomes Satan-possessed.

On the front of Thomas Horn's interesting book, "Apollyon Rising 2012: The Lost Symbol Found and the Final Mystery of the Great Seal Revealed,," it says, "A Terrifying and Prophetic Cipher Hidden from the World by the U.S. Government for Over 200 Years is Here!"

I think the Great Seal and the layout of Washington, D.C. were designed by the Masons. It is a secret society, so they would not have advertized it. This is the pyramid shown on the back of our dollar bill. On the Masonic 1st Degree Tracing Board pictured on page 273 that depicts this pyramid, there are two types of counts to consider for each of the 13 steps of the pyramid.

On the left side, it says, "13 Katuns of 19.7 years" and ends with the year 2012 at the top step. 1776 is on the bottom step. On the right side, it says, "13 cycles of 20 years" (20 is a special number to the Mayans) and this ends with the year 2016 at the top step. I think that on the first day of the Jubilee Year, Nisan 1, 5776, April 9, 2016, Christ will return and put the Beast and False Prophet in the Lake of Fire.

The False Prophet may sit in the Temple as if he is God on 12, 21, 2012 (the end of the Mayan Calendar), and be put in the Lake of Fire when Jesus returns on the first day of the Regnal, Sacred and Jubilee Year, April 9, 2016 (Nisan 1, 5776).

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Incoming e-mail From:, Re: Bonnie Gaunt's reaction to # 333, the Rapture, Dec. 20, 2011, and Apr. 11, 2012

Ron Reese wrote: "The post that I wrote a few days ago MAY turn out to be one of the most profound posts that I have ever written. It was entitled, "The 333rd day of Obama's 3rd year (Satanic #) is Kislev 24, Dec. 20, 2011". In that post, I showed how, using the occultic numbers of 333 and 3333, going backwards and going forwards, we amazingly arrive at the very same possible BIBLICAL (Haggai 2) date of Dec. 20, 2011, for the time of the NWO's Planned Sudden Destruction, and, therefore, possibly the Rapture. If nothing happens on this date, we will know that it was not profound, at all, but just a coincidence. It is a MUST read, and I strongly encourage you to read it at the link below:

Below is an unsolicited email that I received from Bonnie Gaunt, whom I had not heard from, in several months. Bonnie is the author of many excellent books, on Bible gematria, and has appeared on The 700 Club. I had the privilege in the summer of 1999, to co-host with Bonnie, a Bible Prophecy Revival in our home town, that lasted for 13 consecutive Saturday nights. Being an expert on Bible gematria, she found my post on the occultic numbers of 333 and 3333 to be very important. I strongly encourage you to read her reply to my post below:

I usually do not answer your emails because I know that you probably receive dozens of them from others and it takes much of your time to plow through them. However, your recent post regarding the number 333 is very important. I have read it over and over again since receiving it yesterday -- have printed it out and highlighted it. I think you have something here that bears our utmost attention. I write this as a friend, not as a challenger. I feel that what you have written is excellent and also very important. I have also studied and written about the number 333 -- and have put much of it into my 2006 book: "Jordan: the Promise Fulfilled." Your concept of this number, and my concept of this number, are definitely not in opposition to each other. They are simply taking the two aspects of this number and fitting it into a magnificent revelation. So please bear with me. I am not trying to argue. I am trying to show the full meaning and beauty of this number and how it impacts us on the dates that you have suggested.

I have known for a long time (and I think you have also known) that Satan is the great "counterfeiter." I believe it was the Apostle Paul who told us that Satan appears as an angel of light -- his purpose is to deceive. But the prophet Isaiah told us something about Satan that is extremely important right now. He quotes Satan as saying, "I will ascend to heaven; I will raise my throne above the stars of God; I will sit enthroned on the mount of the assembly, on the utmost heights of the sacred mountain (Zaphon). I will ascend above the tops of the clouds; I will make myself like the Most High." (The Hebrew word Zaphon means "north.") It refers to Mount Hermon, which sits at the northern border of Israel.

This is exactly what you have suggested in your letter. You have shown how Mount Hermon bears the numbers 333 and 333. But look at how it is used. Satan is saying that he will usurp this position and take it away from God. We already know that Satan has usurped the number 666 -- and now, here, he also usurpts its two factors, 333 and 333.

All that you have written in your letter shows Satan's usurpation of not only the number 333, but that which 333 represents, namely, the dwelling place of God -- God's throne. You have done an excellent job of making this very plain to the reader.

The place that Satan desired to usurp is the dwelling-place of God. Not that Mount Hermon was literally the dwelling-place of God, but that it represents the dwelling-place of God. This has been Satan's desire from the beginning. And now we are coming to the very time when he will attempt its accomplishment.

Below, let me quote from my book regarding Jordan and Mount Hermon. I think you will readily see the application. Satan wants the "utmost height of Zaphon." And that is what he is going for.

"Mt. Hermon is at the lower part of the Anti-Lebanon Range, which runs about 93 miles in a northeast to southwest direction. The Hermon peak stands just north of the ancient border of Israel, providing its northern boundary.

The mountain forms one of the greatest geographical resources in the area. Because of its magnificent height (about 9,300 feet) it captures abundant precipitation in a country that is otherwise very dry. It literally provides life for the land below.

Meltwater from its snow-covered summit seeps into its rocky pores, providing a perennial flow of fresh pure water which becomes the Jordan river.

Throughout history, this beautiful, lofty mountain has been given many names. The Canaanites, who once occupied the land, called it Baal-Hermon, reflecting their association of its snowy peak to their god Baal. The Sidonians called it Sirion. The Amorites called it Senir.

One of the loving appellations given to it was "the gray-haired mountain." A fitting observation of its snowy head. It was often called "the mountain of snow," and sometimes called "Sion" which, in Hebrew, means "peak."

Mount Hermon stands in a very important geographical location in its relation to the land of Israel, and in relation to the entire plan of God for the salvation of man. The mountain represents the dwelling-place of God, and the scriptures so present it. The cool, refreshing waters which bubble up from the springs at the foot of the mountain form a waterway rich in Biblical history, and rich in symbolism of the way of salvation through Jesus Christ.

God, speaking to Jeremiah, gave us a beautiful word picture of the life-giving pure water that flows from this lofty mountain, He said: "Does the snow of Lebanon ever vanish from its rocky slopes? Do its cool waters from distand sources ever cease to flow? (Jeremiah 18:14)

This metaphor is far more than just poetic language. Looking deeper into its meaning opens an abundant storehouse of understanding. The "snow of Lebanon" is, of course, the snow covered peak of this lofty mountain in the Anti-Lebanon Range -- the mountain that provides the water of life.

Look again at the word "snow". It is the Hebrew word sheleg, from a Hebrew root meaning to be snow-white. If we assign the letters of this word their numberical equivalent, and add them, the sum will be 333. In Psalm 45:6 we find the statement: "Thy throne, O God, is forever," and it has a number value of 333. " (end of quote from the book)

Going over to the New Testament, we find that the Apostle Peter quoted: "Behold I lay in Sion a chief cornerstone." It bears the number 333. "Sion" is another name for Mt. Hermon -- and it literally means "peak." And the Apostle John (3:14) called Jesus "The Son of Man" which also has a number value of 333. Put it all together and we have beautiful snow-covered Mount Hermon bearing this magnificent number -- 333. But it is not called Satan's throne. It is called God's throne.

This is the place that Isaiah said Satan desired to usurp. And you have beautifully shown, in your most recent letter, just how Satan is going to do it. And I agree with you that before One World Government can be set up, there must be a world-wide conflagration such as the world has never seen. It will be short-lived, and will result in the setting up of New World Order.

Going back to the symbol, the snows on Mount Hermon melt and seep down through the rocky interior of the mountain, and bubble up as three magnificent springs near the base of the mountain. These three springs are called Hasbani (127), Leddan (84), and Banias (122). Add their Gematria numbers and we get 333.

One more little item of clarification. You and I both mentioned that Mount Hermon is at 33.3 degrees North and 33.3 degrees East. This must be explained. Today it does not sit at 33.3 degrees East. The place of the prime meridian has changed through the centuries. Prior to 1884 the prime meridian went through Paris. When it went through Paris, the longitude of Mount Hermon was 33.3. Today it is not.

I am trying to keep this as short as possible so as not to take too much of your time. So, to summarize the whole concept let me state it this way: God's throne -- His dwelling place -- is represented by Mount Hermon. However, Satan desired to rise above the position which God had given him, and desired to usurp the place of Mount Hermon. In the process, Satan will attempt to set up a New World Order in the earth. We are coming upon the very time when Satan attempts to do this. He not only attempts the usurpation of the position, but also usurpts the numbers involved -- namely 333 and 666.

Ron: Portions of my follow-up response, and Bonnie Gaunt's replies are included below:

Hi Bonnie, So very good to hear from you. Are you still writing? Paul Jablonowski has made a website for me, so I still write articles to post there. Although I have not written anything since my last hospitalization about a month ago because I just haven't had the strength. If you are interested these articles can be found at

Please do not ever hesitate to write to me. I need more quality responses like yours. I get plenty of negative ones. I read your last book in July of 2011, while I was visiting my daughter's family in Missouri. I also went to a Bible Prophecy conference in Branson, MO, while I was there. I remember your book seemed to imply that there was a good chance of the Rapture taking place between Sept. of 2011, and Sept. of 2012. Am I correct in that?

Yes, that is what I implied, but did not specifically predict it. I believe that the reason Jesus went into the temple at the age of 12-1/2 is because he knew that he would soon experience his 13th birthday and would be required to make the choice to become a "son of the Law." That was in the spring of A.D. 12. On Rosh Hoshanah of that year he would become 13 years old, and would formally make that choice. A Jewish boy, upon becoming a Bar Mitzvah is given many legal rights of manhood, one of which is the right to marry. Prior to his 13th birthday this is not a legal right (however under certain cirmstances it was permitted). Jesus, at that time was the first "Manchild," as was represented by Isaiah's first son. Precisely 2,000 years later, on Rosh Hoshanah 2012, the second Manchild (the antypical one) becomes 13 years old, giving him the legal right to marry. This means that Jesus will then be lawfully able to take his bride to the wedding. It does not necessarily mean that he will marry then, but it means he has the legal right to do so. However, it is very probable that the last members of his bride will be called to the wedding chamber prior to that date. Personally I do not see a large number of people being involved -- I suspect that here at the end of 2,000 years of the call and development of the bride, that she is nearly complete already.

You did not mention in your response anything about Dec. 20, 2011, Kislev 24 (Hanukkah Eve), or Apr. 11, 2012. Do you have any reaction concerning either of those two dates?

Yes, I have a definite reaction. And thank you for asking, because I meant to repond to this but forgot. For many many years I have pondered the statement that God told Haggai to "mark well" the date of Kislev 24. It is the only place that I know of where this urgency is expressed. It suggests that Kislev 24 is something very special -- however God did not go on to tell Haggai why it is special -- and so we have been left dangling. I have secretly suspected that it may have been especially marked because it has to do with the taking of the last members of the bride from this earth. There is a lot of information about April 11, 2012, most of which is not in my head at this writing, but it is a very important date. I suspect that these two dates have directly to do with the taking of the bride. Maranatha! Ron Reese,

My reply

Bonnie Gaunt:
> > For many many years I have pondered the statement that God told Haggai to "mark well" the date of Kislev 24. It is the only place that I know of where this urgency is expressed. It suggests that Kislev 24 is something very special -- however God did not go on to tell Haggai why it is special -- and so we have been left dangling. I have secretly suspected that it may have been especially marked because it has to do with the taking of the last members of the bride from this earth.

Kislev 24, 3755, a common regular 354-day Hebrew Year, was the date of Jesus' conception. On the Gregorian Calendar, it was Tue, Dec 13, 6 BC, my birthday. Wow! That's neat. It was worth staying up all night to figure that out.

Haggai 2:4-19, with a few skips, says, "be strong, all ye people of the land, saith the LORD, and work: for I AM with you, saith the LORD of hosts: 5 According to the word that I covenanted with you when ye came out of Egypt, so my spirit remaineth among you (i.e., even after taking the wise virgins to Heaven): fear ye not... 7 And I will shake all nations, and the desire of all nations (i.e., Jesus) shall come: and I will fill this house (the Temple) with glory, saith the LORD (YHWH) of hosts (the Son of God, the Redeemer, is YHWH of hosts, Isa 44:6). 9 The glory of this latter house shall be greater than of the former, saith the LORD of hosts: and in this place will I give peace, saith the LORD of hosts. 10 In the four and twentieth day of the ninth month, in the second year of Darius, came the word of the LORD by Haggai the prophet... 15 And now, I pray you, consider (sum labab, take it to heart) from this day (Kislev 24, day of Jesus' Conception) and UPWARD (Kislev 25, probably the day of the First-Trump Rapture), from BEFORE (i.e., Kislev 24, Hanukkah Eve) a stone was laid upon a stone in the temple of the LORD... 18 Consider (i.e., take it to heart) now FROM THIS DAY (Kislev 24) AND UPWARD (i.e., probably the Rapture on Kislev 25, the first day of the Feast of Dedication, Hanukkah, 12, 21, 2011), from the four and twentieth day of the ninth month, even from the day that the foundation (i.e., Jesus: 1Co 3:11) of the LORD'S temple was laid, consider it. (lit., take it to heart) 19 Is the seed (Jesus, Gen 3.15) yet in the barn? (a saying meaning is she pregnant) yea (YES, the seed, Jesus, was in the womb; he was conceived on the Hebrew Kislev 24, 3755/the Gregorian December 13, 6 BC), as yet the vine (Jesus), and the fig tree (Israel), and the pomegranate (meaning upright, i.e., the wise virgins), and the olive tree (Israel with the Gentile believers grafted in), HATH NOT brought forth (Heb., NASA, LIFTED UP, i.e., been raptured): from this day (Kislev 25, first day of Hanukkah, the Feast of Dedication, probably Dec. 21, 2011, winter, John 10:22) will I bless you" (i.e., the saved of Israel and the wise-virgin-Philadelphian Church).

John 10:22,23 says, "And it was at Jerusalem the feast of the dedication (i.e., Dec 21-28, 2011), and IT WAS WINTER. 23 And Jesus walked in the temple" (i.e., we are the temple of the Holy Spirit, and Hanukkah seems to be the first Rapture-day when Jesus will walk among us).

There are two days upon Earth at the same time. Australia is a day ahead of us. This year, the Winter Equinox will be on Dec 22. Therefore, the Rapture could take place on Dec 21/22. Since the Hebrew day starts at 6 PM on our previous day, we can easily expand that time to include Dec 20 (Eve of Hanukkah, Ron Reese's date).

Hanukkah is the 8th feast, and it lasts 8 days. The number 8 means new beginnings. That applies to us. However, 8 means much more.

"Eight is the number of JESUS.

"The number eight always alludes to a DEPARTURE from the "natural" world

.... (i.e., That DEPARTURE from the natural world is the Rapture). "So on the eighth day Of the Mishkan's dedication, fire from HaShem appeared.

"On the eighth day of the Temple's dedication, fire from HaShem appeared.

"The one day supply of oil in the Menorah lit by the Maccabees, burned for eight days. (Actually, the oil in the flagon increased for 8 days)

'Yeshua was circumcised on the eighth day"


"Using the Greek Ionic Ciphered Numeral System scientifically proves this. In this system, each letter of the Greek alphabet is assigned a numerical value. The name of Jesus in Greek is spelled I H S O U S (iota, eta, sigma, omicron, upsilon, sigma). Substituting in the Greek numeral system the equivalent numerical values to each letter in the name of Jesus and adding them up, the total is 888. The values of each letter are: iota, 10; eta, 8; sigma, 200; omicron, 70; upsilon, 400; sigma, 200. The sum of 10 + 8 + 200 + 70 + 400 + 200 is 888."

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