Pro and Con 1653

Posted 7-1-2012



The first picture is a false-color mosaic of Saturn made with Cassini's visual and infrared mapping spectrometer. It shows deep-level clouds silhouetted against Saturn's glowing interior.

The middle picture is a nighttime view of Saturn's north pole that shows its hexagon feature that is 15,000 miles across. That is nearly as wide as 4 Earths. The south pole does not have a hexagon. The red color shows the amount of radiation,or HEAT GENERATED IN THE WARM INTERIOR OF SATURN that escapes at the north pole. The hexagon extends 60 miles below the cloud tops.

In the third picture (, "The blue-green color (lower right) is sunlight scattered off clouds high in Saturn's atmosphere and the red color (upper left) is the glow of thermal radiation from Saturn's warm interior, easily seen on Saturn's night side (top left), within the shadow of the rings, and with somewhat less contrast on Saturn's day side (bottom right). The darker areas within Saturn show the strongest thermal radiation. The bright red color indicates areas where Saturn's atmosphere is relatively clear. The great variety of cloud shapes and sizes reveals a surprisingly active planet below the overlying sun-scattering haze....

"Saturn's interior is hot and Saturn radiates more energy into space than it receives from the Sun."


My cataract surgeries were successful. I can now use my computer and drive. I opened my HTML editor and got a big surprise. What I thought was a blinding sunshine yellow background is actually white. It makes sense. The surgeon said my cataracts were orange. Thank you, Lord, that the surgery changed that.

This world is gradually coming back into focus with different colors than I was used to. Some browns are now rose. Yellow can be seen where beige was before. Some whites are now off-white. Pure white is so bright, it is startling. It is a good thing the lack of correct color conception didn't hit me while we were in the drapery business.

Isa 64:4 says, "For since the beginning of the world men have not heard, nor perceived by the ear, neither hath the eye seen, O God, beside thee, what he hath prepared for him that waiteth for him." I'm waiting anxiously. In the meantime, I'm glad to know that Ed and I can be together forever whenever I do get to Heaven. It surely can't be long now.

A POST ON FIVE DOVES, Re: "They are coming to get us"

Ola Ilori (8 June 2012)
"The Rapture is so close!"

Hi Doves,
This was posted on Rita, This is more confirmation that our days on earth are fast coming to an end.
"...I have actually been feeling intense depression the last 2 days & I am the happiest person you could ever meet.

Then out of the blue , God gives me peace , through my child . Listen to this.

My eight year old son says "I keep seeing angels."
Wait ... What?..
He covers his eyes and says, " when I close my eyes I see 4 angels , they are around Jesus and God and they are coming down, & their clothes are flapping in the wind and they have on gold sashes, they are very shiny and golden.
I can see Jesus very clearly too, God has a very bright crown and his face is so bright It is hard to look at it, but it is like a star, if I keep trying to look at it , it will get clearer but it is very bright.
They are coming to get us......
I didn't ask anything else because he was crying, he said he was sad we are leaving and so many of our friends aren't coming.
I am in a state of shock right now, I feel a calm, a quiet, it reminds me of the scripture where everything in heaven stood still for a half an hour.
We are Catholic, we do not have visions or dreams in our home, we love God the Father, and the Son, & the Holy Spirit. With all our hearts, we read and pray daily, other than that all I can say is - we are ready.
Last night as we were leaving baseball practice,
1 of the parents asked my 8 year old ~ Johnny ~ what he is going to do this summer, he answered, telling the plans we have so far.

When we got in the car, he says to me, "I feel like I'm lying."

I asked "Why?"

He said, "Because, we arent going to be here."

"Where are we going to be?" i asked.

"In heaven" he said....


May it be soon.


I know from reading your postings for several years now that your memory is much better than mine, even though you have ten years on me. My incorrect recall of your "biograph" was that you were raised a Methodist, became a Baptist and later became a Baptist Minister, thus the "Rev." Sorry about that.

I first became aware of you when I purchased each of your first two books around the time when they were first published. I have a bad habit of loaning the better of my book to friends, who seldom return them, likely because moved around a lot. Unfortunately, that was the situation with those two books. Anyway, I thought that they were great. After that time, I didn't encounter you again until a few years ago, when I came across your web site.

The "This" as I note below is a conditional question about your position on the Rapture. And the "That" is about your eyes, specifically your cataracts and my experience.

I see from one of your recent postings that you live in Riverdale, CA....


From your postings, I know that you are still holding to the current period for the Rapture to occur in. My question is this: What would be an event of the several events to be associated with the Rapture that you are expecting, which would not occur and thus would lead you to consider that the Rapture is not and will not occur in the current period? And what would be the earliest likely date for that "non-occurrence"?


I judge from you comments about your eyes and cataracts that they are worst than what mine were. Nonetheless, mine were bad enough that I had difficulty reading and would surely fail my driver's test that I will have to take in a few months from now. Anticipating that, last year I had cataract surgery. A tough decision for me.... Agape!


Thanks for your kind words. It is nice to be appreciated....

There are two main reasons I changed from Methodist to Baptist (Ed's church). I found out that baptizo meant to be immersed and I had already attended Ed's church for a year before my family switched back to the Methodist so my youngest brother could be baptized in the Methodist Church as the rest of us were. I was baptized again, immersed, when I joined the Baptist church. I also liked the way the Baptist Church taught straight from the Bible.

My memory is not so good on ordinary things. I can be talking and forget what I was talking about if I go off on a tangent. Therefore, it is obvious that the Lord helps me remember the Bible. I can start to look up a verse, forget what verse I wanted by the time I get eSword open, but if I just wait a bit, it generally comes back to me. That surely is the Lord prompting me. It doesn't happen like that with lots of other things.

My husband prayed for a Christian wife when coming home from Japan after WW II. The Lord picked me, and pulled off some miracles to get us together. I was raised in Indiana until half way through my freshman year in High School, and he was raised in Tennessee.

(This paragraph is revised. I added some to it.) Ed said that we wouldn't fight. It took two to fight, and he wouldn't fight. I didn't want to bicker back and forth, much less fight. We got through 65 years without a fight. Last night, I remembered that through the many years we ran our Spring Crest Drapery, I can't remember a single time that we got mad at one another. I don't like to hurt people's feelings. For 65 years, we just clung to one another through thick and thin, no matter what we had to face in life, losing money to a con artist, losing a house, bankruptcy, just when we had won honors for our successful Spring Crest Drapery store. We sold it and the people skipped and did not pay us for it. We followed what the Bible said, and did not sue them. They are Christians, so it will come out right in the end.

After I finished my 3rd book, Ed took me down and signed me up for the Internet that same day in Sept. 1996. I had never heard of HTML, had no extra money for a $49 textbook, so went on the Internet and searched for the information I needed. My website was up and running in about a month. That was easier than what I went through trying to be able to post to my website after my computer quit in January. Things are getting more complex all the time, and I was going blind....

> > From your postings, I know that you are still holding to the current period for the Rapture to occur in. My question is this: What would be an event of the several events to be associated with the Rapture that you are expecting, which would not occur and thus would lead you to consider that the Rapture is not and will not occur in the current period? And what would be the earliest likely date for that "non-occurrence"?

I don't know exactly how to answer that one....we may have to wait until Trumpets. The September birthstone is the sapphire, and means heaven. Jesus was born in September, and the 2nd Rapture should be Sept 14, 2015. It could be planned that we all have the sapphire birthstone, because it means Saturn, heaven.

According to Webster's Collegiate Dictionary, sapphire also means dear to the planet Saturn, from the Sanskrit Sani (Saturn) and priya (dear). Jesus' throne is represented by a sapphire stone in Eze. 1:26-28.

It looks like Mid-Trib will be Nov. 8/9, 2012. Surely we will be caught up by that time. The news sure seems to fit the coming Great Tribulation. I keep looking for news about building the Temple. Agape

INCOMING EMAIL, RE: So happy to see you are posting!

Everytime I tried using my bookmark to get to your site it would not work and gave me errors. I finally removed my bookmark.

Today, for some reason, I decided to google you (thinking "I need some encouragement") and clicked on the link google gave me. Your website popped up and I noticed new posts - well 3 from May!

I'm so thankful to Jesus that you are back. I can't tell you how I long for the rapture and have since the day I was saved back in December of 1976.

I have been reading your posts for years and I am so HAPPY that you are back.

God bless you and I pray He gives you the wisdom and the strength to continue your work until "we meet Him in the air".


Thanks for your kind words. It took a friend's help to get my website going again. I was unable to post after my old computer died. The new one uses Windows 7 instead of XP. It is much harder for me to use. Besides that, I was almost blind, and the updated HTML editor and Direct FTP wouldn't work for me as before....

I too am hoping for the Rapture soon. I want to be with Ed. When he was allowed to visit me on April 2, either in his celestial body or in a vision, I asked him these questions and got these answers.

Are you 30 or 33? He said, 33 in his normal voice.
Can we be together forever? He said, "Yes." Thank you Lord. That was the one I was worrying about.
Are there female angels in Heaven, He said,"Yes."
Have you met with your family ? He said,"Yes."
Have you met with my family? He said,"Yes."
Do you have a piano? He said,"Yes," and walked through the wall.

Twice in my life, I said, "Yes" at the right time, first to Jesus Christ and then to Ed when he asked me to marry him. Both will affect my life forever.

THE DEFINING MOMENT OF MY LIFE was when I said, "Yes" after Ed asked me to marry him. It was on the 4th day we dated. We knew we belonged together right away. After the Rapture, I will get to be with both Ed and Christ forever. I'm so glad I made the right choices. Ed was the best husband I could of ever had. The Lord was behind our marriage, because Ed had prayed for a Christian wife when he was on board a ship coming home from Japan after WW II. The Lord worked miracles to get us together. Until December, 1944, I was in Indiana. Then my dad got transferred to Kingsport, Tennessee, where Ed was raised. We attended the same High School, but did not know each other yet. He was older than me. Before he finished his senior year, Ed was drafted into the army for 36 months. Later, both our families moved into Staff Quarters at Holston Ordinance Works, 4 miles out of town. He was then discharged from the army. Ed and I first met when we got off the city bus together and talked as we walked up the hill to the Staff Quarters. Agape


"Scientists uncover evidence in Siberia's century-old meteorite mystery"

Natalia Ettore, Vladimir Tikhomirov, Ogoniok magazine June 28, 2012

Italian scientists claim they have found the remnants of a meteorite that they say created a Siberian lake more than 100 years ago...

Since 1991, a team of scientists from the ISAR Institute for Marine Geology in Bologna have been coming to the Podkamennaya Tunguska River basin, where the blast shook the Earth. Some of the researchers, especially Luca Gasperini, the leader of the expedition, know the local taiga better than many of the locals.

"I have been fascinated by the Tunguska mystery since childhood and I have dreamed of discovering the meteorite all my life," the Italian professor said. "So, as soon as I had a chance, I put together a team of specialists and we went to Russia."

Soviet scientists Vladimir Koshelev and Kirill Florensky were the first to hypothesize about the location of the crater; the two pinpointed Lake Cheko as the possible impact crater back in 1960. Yet there was no technical means to verify their hypothesis at the time. And with the possible crater full of water, scientists were not able to ascertain whether it had the telling bowl-shape made by the impact of an object hurtling through space.

Beauty and terror from the skies

"I was working with an axe when I suddenly saw that, to the north, the sky split in two and fire appeared high over the forest," a local miner, Semyon Semyonov, one of the few eye-witnesses of the event, recalled at the time. "At that moment I became very hot, as if my shirt was on fire. I wanted to tear off my shirt and throw it down, but then the sky closed, and a strong thump sounded. I was thrown off the porch. After that, there followed such a noise, as if rocks were falling or cannons were firing; the earth shook, and when the sky opened up, hot wind raced from the north, like from cannons, which left traces in the ground like pathways..."

Soviet scientists in the 1960s focused on Lake Cheko, a body of water some 5 miles from the assumed ground zero with an unusually round shape. What if the lake were the original crater, which was later filled with water from the Kimchu River? Gasperini said he has no doubt that this version is what really happened.

"Some time ago, my colleagues from Bologna University and I drilled a few holes to take ground samples from the lake shore," the scientist said. "It appeared that, under the sludge, there was a layer of totally different sedimentary formation that we called "Siberian slush" or "hairball" the ground was mixed with debris and wood chips. Our experts discovered pollen that was hardly older than 100 years in that slush." These "hairballs" offered the first evidence that the lake had only recently been a forest.

Three years ago, the Italian scientists conducted another test: they used sonar and an echo depth sounder to make a three-dimensional map of Lake Cheko.

"Siberian lakes are generally quite shallow and have flat bottoms. Their origin accounts for this - they were literally scooped out by the giant bulldozer of a glacier during the latest ice age," Gasperini explained. "But Lake Cheko's bottom is conical, and its depth at the lower part is 50 meters (165 feet). You cannot account for this sort of relief using the traditional soil erosion model. What is the possible explanation? There is only one: the lake is the crater of a fallen meteorite."

They found the basin of Lake Cheko to be elongated and shallow; Gasperini's team said that the basin's unusual shape could be the result of a large fragment of meteor that made a "soft crash."

To check their theory, the Italians had to look through Russian archives.

"We thought: what if we could find a documentary record that there was no such lake before the event?" said Gasperini. "Someone might think that impossible, but we pulled it off. We came across an 1883 map of the old Eniseisk province in one of the Krasnoyarsk archives, and there was no Lake Cheko on the map. There is no mention of the lake in letters, police reports or any other documents dating from the 19th century. Why? Possibly, they simply ignored it, but another possibility is that there was no lake in that spot at all."

Finally, the Italians' best card: Professor Michel Pipan at the University of Trieste hired an Mi-26 helicopter in Krasnoyarsk to carry out geomagnetic aerial photography of the lake and its surroundings.

"Right above the middle of the lake, the machine detected a significant magnetic disturbance, i.e., there is a material mass deep under the lake with a strong magnetic field, presumably iron. I am positive that it is our meteorite."...

"Space Shuttle Science Shows How 1908 Tunguska Explosion Was Caused By A Comet" ScienceDaily (June 24, 2009) - The mysterious 1908 Tunguska explosion that leveled 830 square miles of Siberian forest was almost certainly caused by a comet entering the Earth's atmosphere, says new Cornell University research. The conclusion is supported by an unlikely source: the exhaust plume from the NASA space shuttle launched a century later....

The researchers contend that the massive amount of water vapor spewed into the atmosphere by the comet's icy nucleus was caught up in swirling eddies with tremendous energy by a process called two-dimensional turbulence, which explains why the noctilucent clouds formed a day later many thousands of miles away.

"Supercomputers Offer New Explanation Of Tunguska Disaster"
ScienceDaily (Dec. 18, 2007) - The stunning amount of forest devastation at Tunguska a century ago in Siberia may have been caused by an asteroid only a fraction as large as previously published estimates, Sandia National Laboratories supercomputer simulations suggest.

"The asteroid that caused the extensive damage was much smaller than we had thought," says Sandia principal investigator Mark Boslough of the impact that occurred June 30, 1908. "That such a small object can do this kind of destruction suggests that smaller asteroids are something to consider. Their smaller size indicates such collisions are not as improbable as we had believed."

Because smaller asteroids approach Earth statistically more frequently than larger ones, he says, "We should be making more efforts at detecting the smaller ones than we have till now."

The new simulation - which more closely matches the widely known facts of destruction than earlier models - shows that the center of mass of an asteroid exploding above the ground is transported downward at speeds faster than sound. It takes the form of a high-temperature jet of expanding gas called a fireball.

This causes stronger blast waves and thermal radiation pulses at the surface than would be predicted by an explosion limited to the height at which the blast was initiated.

"Our understanding was oversimplified," says Boslough, "We no longer have to make the same simplifying assumptions, because present-day supercomputers allow us to do things with high resolution in 3-D. Everything gets clearer as you look at things with more refined tools."


Arabs Torch Barley Fields of Esh Kodesh

Arabs set fire, Thursday evening, to two dunams (half an acre) of barley fields in Esh Kodesh, according to the Tatzpit news agency. Esh Kodesh spokesman Aharon Katzuf told Tatzpit that members of the Binyamin-region Jewish community's first-response team who responded to the fire saw figures fleeing in the direction of the village of Kusra.

Katzuf said it took the army more than an hour to arrive, adding that the incident could have been prevented by a permanent military presence in the area. He said Arab arson damages the fields every year at this time, just ahead of the summer harvest.


The oldest and 'biggest ever' asteroid crater discovered in Greenland - suggesting huge impact more than three billion years ago

100km (62mile) wide crater discovered in Greenland - and it is possible crater is more than 500km in size

By Eddie Wrenn, 29 June 2012

A 100 kilometre-wide crater has been found in Greenland, the result of a massive asteroid impact a billion years before any other known collision on Earth.

Evidence came in the form of broken-up, contorted, melted and hydrothermally altered rocks affected by the impact and influx of sea-water during the impact

Following a detailed programme of fieldwork, funded by GEUS and the Danish 'Carlsbergfondet' (Carlsberg Foundation), the team have discovered the remains of a giant three billion-year-old impact near the Maniitsoq region of West Greenland.

Evidence came in the form of broken-up, contorted, melted and hydrothermally altered rocks affected by the impact and influx of sea-water during the impact

Boris A. Ivanov at the Institute of Planetary Science, Russian Academy of Science, Moscow, has carried out a series of provisional model calculations, which suggest that the impacting meteorite at Maniitsoq may have had a diameter of more than 30 km, i.e., about twice the size of the Vredefort meteorite and with a mass about ten times larger.

All external parts of the impact structure have been removed, but the effects of the intense impact shock wave penetrated deep into the crust - far deeper than at any other known crater - and these remain visible.

Explained: Near-Miss Asteroids

By Soren Dreier, June 29, 2012

On May 29, an asteroid the size of a bus came whizzing past Earth at 10 times the speed of a fired bullet.

The near-miss asteroid, named 2012 KT42 - or "KT42" for short - streaked across the orbits of weather and television satellites, 22,000 miles above Earth's surface, making it the sixth-closest asteroid approach on record.


The date, May 29, 2012, is 3 years after the probable beginning of the Tribulation on Pentecost, May 29, 2009. Probably on Sept. 14, 2015, the Feast of Trumpets, two pieces of the asteroid Wormwood (Rev 8:11) that Satan lives on will impact Earth, destroying Damascus and Babylon, Iraq. The mountain-sized piece (Rev. 8:8) will impact the NE corner of the Mediterranean Sea and destroy Damascus. Isa 17:1 says, "The burden of Damascus. Behold, Damascus is taken away from being a city, and it shall be a ruinous heap." Rev 18:21 says, "And a mighty angel took up a stone like a great millstone, and cast it into the sea, saying, Thus with violence shall that great city Babylon be thrown down, and shall be found no more at all." Isa 22:16-19 says, "What hast thou here? (Babylon)and whom hast thou here (the Satan-possessed False Prophet), that thou hast hewed thee out a sepulchre here, as he (Satan) that heweth him out a sepulchre on high, and that graveth an habitation for himself in a rock? (i.e., the asteroid Wormwood, Rev 8:11) 17 Behold, the LORD will carry thee away with a mighty captivity, and will surely cover thee. 18 He will surely violently turn and toss thee like a ball into a large country: there shalt thou die, and there the chariots of thy glory shall be the shame of thy lord's house. 19 And I will drive thee from thy station, and from thy state shall he pull thee down."


> > 6) The Sign of Revelation 12 from 2011AD to 2012AD is paralleling the sign of Jesus conception and birth from 3BC to 2BC. The conception was Virgo, the woman clothed with the son, moon at her feet, stars about her head on Rosh Hashanah 9/11 3BC just like we received that same sign on Rosh Hashanah 9/29/2011. Jesus was born on 6/17 2BC when the shepherds abiding in the fields saw the angels.

I think Jesus was born Tishri 1, Sept 4, 5 BC. The sign in Rev 12 was in the sky that night.

Jesus was crucified in 30 AD.

The Temple had been under construction 46 years in 27 AD, the first Passover of Jesus’ ministry. Temple construction was begun in 20/19 BC.

27 AD is the year Jesus read the passage in Isa 64 that announced the Jubilee year in 28 AD. The acceptable year of the Lord is the Jubilee Year.

Luke 4:16-21 says, “And he came to Nazareth, where he had been brought up: and, as his custom was, he went into the synagogue on the sabbath day, and stood up for to read. 17 And there was delivered unto him the book of the prophet Esaias. And when he had opened the book, he found the place where it was written, 18 The Spirit of the Lord is upon me, because he hath anointed me to preach the gospel to the poor; he hath sent me to heal the brokenhearted, to preach deliverance to the captives, and recovering of sight to the blind, to set at liberty them that are bruised, 19 To preach the acceptable year of the Lord. 20 And he closed the book, and he gave it again to the minister, and sat down. And the eyes of all them that were in the synagogue were fastened on him. 21 And he began to say unto them, This day is this scripture fulfilled in your ears.”

You are right that the sign of Rev 12 was there on 9/29/2011.

I just checked Sept 17, 2012 (the Feast of Trumpets) at YourSky. The sign of Rev. 12 will not be seen this year. The Moon will not be under Virgo’s feet. The sign seems to appear every 4 or 5 years. Agape

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