Pro and Con 1657

Posted 9-2-2012



By Marilyn Agee, 9-2-12

Mt 24:37 says, "But as the days of Noe were, so shall also the coming of the Son of man be". Noah got a 120-year countdown (Gen 6:2-4). Since we don't have to build an Ark, we may be getting a 120-day countdown between the Wedding Ring eclipse of May 20, 2012 and a Feast of Trumpets Rapture of the Bride on Sept. 17, 2012.

The eclipse of May 20, 2012, was an annular solar eclipse. The word annular is from the Latin annulus, which means "little ring." This "little ring" appeared when the Moon blocked out 94% of the sunlight. It was seen in a path that went over part of the western USA.

Dates of Wedding Ring eclipses, 2010-2020, are below. Notice that there isn't one in 2015, the year I expect the Last-Trump Rapture. At that time, only the 144,000 Israelites seem to be added to the Bride group (Rev 14:1-5).

Jan 15, 2010
May 20, 2012
May 10, 2013
Apr 29, 2014
Sept 1, 2016
Feb 26, 2017
Dec 26, 2019
Jun 21, 2020

Besides the Wedding-Ring Eclipse, 8-31-2012 was the night of the Blue Moon, the second full Moon in one month. It too could be a marker. Blue Moon dates, from 2010-2015:
Nov. 2010
Aug. 2012
Aug. 2013
July 2015

Both Raptures, the First-Trump Rapture of the Bride of Christ and the Last-Trump Rapture of the Tribulation saints seem to be on the Feast of Trumpets. The first could be on Monday, Tishri 1, 5773, Sept. 17, 2012, the last on Monday, Tishri 1, 5776, Sept. 14, 2015. The Wedding-Ring Eclipse of May 20 was seen 120 days before Sept. 17, 2012. The Lord may have planned it this way to give us a sign of the coming Rapture of the Bride of Christ.

Luke_21:25 says ,"And there shall be SIGNS IN THE SUN, AND IN THE MOON, and in the stars; and upon the earth distress of nations, with perplexity; the sea and the waves roaring". We have had two huge tsunami signs. Maybe we have also had a sign involving both the Sun and Moon.

Another strange thing, hurricane Isaac "arrived exactly seven years after Hurricane Katrina and passed slightly to the west of New Orleans" ( Flooding and no water and power in some areas in Louisiana spread the misery. Both hurricanes caused the Mississippi River to flow backwards. The 7-yr. interval makes it seem like a sign.

A 7.6 earthquake off the Philippines spurred a small tsunami late Friday too. Fukushima, Japan, was hit by 4.4 and 4.5 earthquakes. Brawley California had a 5.5 earthquake to top off hundreds of tremors. I didn't feel them here in Riverside. I tend to not worry about 5.0 and below, yet I saw a picture of a dirt road that had a crack across it, and there was displacement as wide as the wheel track. Even though these quakes are small, I see why people are uneasy south of the Salton Sea. These could herald something bigger.


The Julian and Hebrew calendars align in 5 BC and 30 AD after a two-day error in the Hebrew Calendar, caused by Hillel II's added postponements, is compensated for. If we just subtract 2 from the Hebrew date, we can use the Calendar Converters. The day of the week will then agree, and the calendars are correct for the Julian dates.


I was delighted that the calendar converter proved my date for the birth of Jesus correct. The way I had arrived at that date before was to find the date that the sign in Rev 12 was in the sky. The astronomy programs were more accurate than the calendar programs when considering things that far back. I had to study the calendar programs and Jewish writings some more to be sure how to correct for Hillel II's postponements, however the day of the week should have shown me. That just seemed too easy. I had to do it the hard way, but at least now I can be sure.


1. THE BIRTH OF JESUS, Julian Sept 4, 5 BC (Monday) Feast of Trumpets: Virgo was clothed with Sun, and the Moon was at her feet, as in Rev 12 Hebrew Calendar -- Tishri 1, 3757 ----- (Monday) Feast of Trumpets

The Gregorian and Hebrew calendars align in our days without correction.


Gregorian Calendar-Sept 17, 2012 ------ (Monday) Feast of Trumpets
Hebrew Calendar --- Tishri 1, 5773 ---- (Monday) Feast of Trumpets


Gregorian Calendar- Sept 14, 2015 ----- (Monday) Feast of Trumpets
Hebrew Calendar ----Tishri 1, 5776 ---- (Monday) Feast of Trumpets


In Num 10:2-4 (KJV), the Lord told Moses to "Make thee TWO TRUMPETS of silver; of a whole piece shalt thou make them: that thou mayest USE THEM FOR THE CALLING OF THE ASSEMBLY, AND FOR THE JOURNEYING OF THE CAMPS. 3 And when they shall blow with them (i.e., both), ALL THE ASSEMBLY shall assemble themselves to thee at the door (symbol of a Rapture, Rev 3:8) of the tabernacle of the congregation. 4 And if they blow but with ONE TRUMPET, then the princes (i.e., ELDERS), which are heads of the thousands of Israel shall gather themselves unto thee."

One trumpet call is for the First-Trump Rapture. Both are for the Last-Trump Rapture.

The elders are caught up in Rev 4:1-4. It says, "After this I looked, and, behold, a door was opened in heaven: and the first voice which I heard was as it were of a TRUMPET talking with me; which said, COME UP HITHER, and I will shew thee things which must be hereafter. 2 And immediately I was (lit., became) in the spirit: and, behold, a throne was set in heaven, and one sat on the throne (Jesus, the first and the last). 3 And he that sat was to look upon like a jasper (first stone in the breastplate) and a sardine stone (last stone in the breastplate, i.e., Jesus is both the first and the last): and there was a rainbow (Saturn's ring system, Eze 1:26-28) round about the throne in sight like unto an emerald (Judah's stone in the breastplate, i.e., Jesus is the Lion of the tribe of Judah). 4 And round about the throne were four and twenty seats (lit., thrones): and upon the seats I saw four and twenty ELDERS (12 patriarchs and 12 apostles of Israel) sitting, clothed in white raiment; and they had on their heads crowns of gold."


Heb 12:22-24 (KJV) says, "But ye are come unto mount Sion, and unto the city of the living God, the heavenly Jerusalem, and to an innumerable company of angels, 23 To the GENERAL ASSEMBLY AND CHURCH OF THE FIRSTBORN, which are written in heaven, and to God the Judge of all, and to the spirits of just men made perfect, 24 And to Jesus the mediator of the new covenant".

Num 10:7 says, "But when the congregation is to be GATHERED together, ye shall blow, but ye shall not sound an alarm." That doesn't sound like sudden destruction will accompany the First-Trump Rapture. Terrible destruction will hit on the same day as the Last-Trump Rapture. That will take place on the Day of the Lord, the Day of God's Wrath (Rev 6:17; 7:14).

Joel_2:1 says, "Blow ye the trumpet in Zion, and sound an alarm in my holy mountain: let all the inhabitants of the land tremble: for the day of the LORD cometh."

Psa 81:3 says, "BLOW UP THE TRUMPET IN THE NEW MOON, in the time appointed, ON OUR SOLEMN FEAST DAY." This is talking about the Feast of Trumpets, the only feast day that is on the New Moon.

Eze 46:1 says, "Thus saith the Lord GOD; The gate of the inner court that looketh toward the east shall be shut the six working days; but on the sabbath it shall be opened, and IN THE DAY OF THE NEW MOON IT SHALL BE OPENED.


1Th 4:13-18 says, "But I would not have you to be ignorant, brethren, concerning them which are asleep, that ye sorrow not, even as others which have no hope. 14 For if we believe that Jesus died and rose again, even so them also which sleep in Jesus will God bring with him. 15 For this we say unto you by the word of the Lord, that we which are alive and remain unto the coming of the Lord shall not prevent (Old English for precede) them which are asleep. 16 For the Lord himself shall descend from heaven with a shout, with the voice of the archangel, and with the TRUMP OF GOD: and the dead in Christ shall rise first: 17 Then we which are alive and remain shall be caught up together with them in the clouds, to meet the Lord in the air: and so shall we ever be with the Lord. 18 Wherefore comfort one another with these words."

Those raised up on Resurrection Day went into Jerusalem and were seen. This sounds like the dead in Christ will be raised up and can go into a city and be seen. The Riverside National Cemetery is about 5 miles from here, and I live in the outskirts of Riverside that are closest to the cemetery. At the time of the Rapture, I hope Ed will come to us and go up with Dave and I.


1Co 15:51-53 says, "Behold, I shew you a mystery; We shall not all sleep, but we shall all be changed, 52 In a moment, in the twinkling of an eye, AT THE LAST TRUMP: for the trumpet shall sound, and the dead shall be raised incorruptible, and we shall be changed. 53 For this corruptible must put on incorruption, and this mortal must put on immortality." If there is a last trump, there must be a first trump.


The word translated "first" in I Thess 4:16 is proton, "Neuter of G4413 as an adverb (with or without G3588); firstly (in time, place, order, or importance): - before, at the beginning, chiefly, (at, at the) first (of all)." The word translated "together" is "hama," a "primary particle; properly at the "same" time, but freely used as a preposition or adverb denoting close association: - also, and, together, with (-al)."

I take it that the dead in Christ will be raised up (i.e., get their resurrection bodies) "at the beginning" of the Rapture. Therefore, I don't think they were raised up last Resurrection Day as I had hoped they would be when my husband visited me April 2nd. I now think Ed is still in his celestial body that I saw that day, the one that can walk through walls. I am hoping we will be reunited Sept. 17.

1Co 15:40 says, "There are also celestial bodies, and bodies terrestrial: but the glory of the celestial is one, and the glory of the terrestrial is another."


Rev_4:1 says, "After this I looked, and, behold, a door was opened in heaven: and the first voice which I heard was as it were of a TRUMPET talking with me; which said, COME UP HITHER, and I will shew thee things which must be hereafter."

We saw some of the things that will be hereafter in the Preview of the Rapture.

Rev 1:10-18 says, "I was (lit., became) in the Spirit on the Lord's day, and heard behind me a great voice, as of a TRUMPET, 11 Saying, I am Alpha and Omega, the first (LORD of the Old Testament) and the last (Lord of the New Testament): and, What thou seest, write in a book, and send it unto the seven churches which are in Asia (meaning muddy, i.e., Earth); unto Ephesus, and unto Smyrna, and unto Pergamos, and unto Thyatira, and unto Sardis, and unto Philadelphia, and unto Laodicea. 12 And I turned to see the voice that spake with me. And being turned, I saw seven golden candlesticks (representing the 7 church groups); 13 And in the midst of the seven candlesticks one like unto the Son of man (Jesus), clothed with a garment down to the foot, and girt about the paps with a golden girdle (symbol of deity). 14 His head and his hairs were white like wool, as white as snow (i.e., Jesus is also "the Ancient of days, Dan 7:9); and his eyes were as a flame of fire; 15 And his feet like unto fine brass (meaning judgment), as if they burned in a furnace; and his voice as the sound of many waters. 16 And he had in his right hand seven stars: and out of his mouth went a sharp twoedged sword (probably to cut off the foolish Laodicean virgins): and his countenance was as the sun shineth in his strength. 17 And when I saw him, I fell at his feet as dead. And he laid his right hand upon me, saying unto me, Fear not; I am the first (YHWH) and the last (JESUS): 18 I am he that liveth, and was dead; and, behold, I am alive for evermore, Amen; and have the keys of hell and of death."

Dan_7:9 says, "I beheld till the thrones were cast down, and the Ancient of days did sit, whose garment was white as snow, and the hair of his head like the pure wool: his throne was like the fiery flame, and his wheels as burning fire."


Mt_24:31 says, "And he shall send his angels with a great sound of a TRUMPET, and they shall gather together his elect from the four winds, from one end of HEAVEN to the other."


The final trumpet blown on the Feast of Trumpets is considered the "Last Trumpet".

1Cor 15:51-53 says, "Behold, I shew you a mystery; We (including Paul himself) shall not all sleep, but we shall all be changed, 52 In a moment, in the twinkling of an eye, at the last trump: for the trumpet shall sound, and the dead shall be raised incorruptible, and we shall be changed. 53 For this corruptible must put on incorruption, and this mortal must put on immortality."

Putting on incorruption takes place at both Raptures. However, putting on immortality only takes place at the Last-Trump Rapture.

Mark 13:26,27 says, "And then shall they see the Son of man coming in the clouds with great power and glory (i.e., they see the Sign of the Son of Man). 27 And then shall he send his angels, and shall gather together his elect from the four winds, from the uttermost part of the EARTH (i.e., at the Last-Trump Rapture) to the uttermost part of HEAVEN" (those already gathered up in the First-Trump Rapture).

Psa 47:5-9 says, "God is gone up with a shout, the LORD with the sound of a TRUMPET. 6 Sing praises to God, sing praises: sing praises unto our King, sing praises. 7 For GOD IS THE KING OF ALL THE EARTH: sing ye praises with understanding. 8 God reigneth over the heathen: God sitteth upon the throne of his holiness. 9 THE PRINCES (i.e., elders) OF THE PEOPLE ARE GATHERED".

Isa_18:3 says, "ALL YE INHABITANTS OF THE WORLD, and dwellers on the earth, see ye, when he lifteth up an ensign (flag) on the mountains (kingdoms, i.e., the United Nations); and WHEN HE BLOWETH A TRUMPET, HEAR YE."

Isa 26:20 says, "COME, MY PEOPLE (i.e., the 144,000 Israelites), enter thou into thy chambers, and shut thy doors about thee: hide thyself as it were for a little moment, until THE INDIGNATION be overpast." The Last-Trump Rapture takes place on the Day of God's Wrath, Rev 6:17; 7:1-14.

Dan 12:1,2 says, "And at that time (i.e., when the False Prophet will be deposed, Dan 11:45) shall Michael stand up, the great prince which standeth for the children of thy people: and there shall be a time of trouble, such as never was since there was a nation even to that same time: and AT THAT TIME (i.e., on the Day of the Lord) thy people (including the 144,000) shall be delivered, every one that shall be found written in the book. 2 And many of them that sleep in the dust of the earth shall awake, some to everlasting life, and some to shame and everlasting contempt."

Joel 2:1 says, "Blow ye the trumpet in Zion, and sound an alarm in my holy mountain: let all the inhabitants of the land tremble: for the DAY OF THE LORD cometh, for it is nigh at hand".

Joel 2:15,16 says, "Blow the trumpet (i.e., it is the Feast of Trumpets) in Zion, sanctify a fast (i.e., the coming Day of Atonement), CALL A SOLEMN ASSEMBLY (atsarah, From H6113; an assembly, especially on a FESTIVAL): 16 GATHER the people, sanctify the congregation, assemble the elders, gather the children, and those that suck the breasts: let the bridegroom (Christ) go forth of his chamber, and the bride (Bride of Christ) out of her closet".

H611 atsereth, From H6113; an assembly, especially on a festival or holiday: - (solemn) assembly (meeting).

Rev 12:7-9 says, "And there was war in heaven: Michael and his angels fought against the dragon; and the dragon fought and his angels, 8 And prevailed not; neither was their place found any more in heaven. 9 And the great dragon was cast out, that old serpent, called the Devil, and Satan, which deceiveth the whole world: he was cast out into the earth, and his angels were cast out with him."

Psa 118:19-22 says, "Open to me the gates of righteousness: I will go into them, and I will praise the LORD: 20 This gate of the LORD, INTO WHICH THE RIGHTEOUS SHALL ENTER. 21 I will praise thee: for thou hast heard me, and art become my salvation. 22 The stone which the builders refused is become the head stone of the corner."

The Second Advent will probably take place in 5776, the height of the Giza pyramid in inches when the corner stone is installed.


The Wedding Ring Eclipse was May 20, 2012. Add 120 days—AS THE YEARS IN THE DAYS OF NOAH. Result: Monday, Tishri 1, 5773 (Sept. 17, 2012), Yom Teruah, Feast of Trumpets, Civil New Year, the day 100 trumpets are blown. To me, that seems to be the day of the First-Trump Rapture.

According to the Jews, "The shofar says, 'Awake, sleepers from your sleep, and slumberers arise from your slumber!' Mishneh Torah, Laws of Repentance 3:4." (

That sure fits the first Rapture. I Thess 4:16 says, "For the Lord himself shall descend from heaven with a shout, with the voice of the archangel, and with the TRUMP OF GOD: and THE DEAD IN CHRIST SHALL RISE FIRST: 17 Then we which are alive and remain shall be CAUGHT UP TOGETHER WITH THEM IN THE CLOUDS, to meet the Lord in the air".

Between the Feast of Trumpets and the Day of Atonement are the Days of Awe, maybe because the Raptures will take place on Trumpets. People left behind at the first Rapture should sit up and take notice, especially the foolish virgins.

The Jews have added trumpet blowing during the month of Elul. Right now, trumpets are being blown each day, but they will not blow any on the Eve of Trumpets to show that there is a difference between the voluntary blasts of Elul and the mandatory blasts of the feast day.

Num 29:1 says, "And in the seventh month, on the first day of the month, ye shall have an holy convocation; ye shall do no servile work: it is a day of blowing the trumpets (yom teruah) unto you."

"Yom teruah" means day of clamor, loud ear-splitting, ground-shaking blasts, shouting for alarm or joy, or day of the awakening blast. To me, the ground-shaking awakening blast suggests that the dead in Christ will be raised on the Feast of Trumpets.

In Hos 6:1-3, Israel says, "Come, and let us return unto the LORD: for he hath torn, and he will heal us; he hath smitten, and he will bind us up. 2 After two days will he revive us: in the third day he will raise us up, and we shall live in his sight. 3 Then (i.e., after Israel again became a nation) shall we know, if we follow on to know the LORD: his going forth is prepared as the morning; and he shall come unto us as the rain, as the latter and former rain unto the earth."

The former rain comes on Tishri 1, the latter rain on Nisan 1. I think Jesus was born on Tishri 1 (Sept. 4, 5 BC) and will return on Nisan 1, April 9, 2016, the anniversary of his resurrection on April 9, 30 AD. It looks like the Rapture of the Bride of Christ will be Tishri 1, 5773 (Sept. 17, 2012). The Lord did a lot of pre-planning for these things to correlate like they do.


Hag 2:18,19 says, "Consider now from this day and upward, from the four and twentieth day of the ninth month, even from the day that the foundation (Jesus) of the LORD'S temple was laid (i.e, was conceived), consider it. 19 IS THE SEED (Jesus, Gen 3:15) YET IN THE BARN? (a saying that means is she pregnant) yea (YES), as yet the vine, and the fig tree, and the pomegranate, and the olive tree, hath not brought forth: from this day (Kislev 24) will I bless you."

I think Jesus was conceived on Kislev 24, 3756 and born Tishri 1, 3757 (Sept. 4, 5 BC, Julian), before Herod died shortly after the eclipse of March 14, 4 BC. It looks like we will be blessed on his birthday. The dead should be raised, and the living Bride of Christ caught up together with them, to meet Christ in the air.

1Th_4:17 says, "Then we which are alive and remain shall be caught up together with them in the clouds, to meet the Lord in the air: and so shall we ever be with the Lord."

The word together, in the original, is hama, A primary particle; properly at the "same" time, but freely used as a preposition or adverb denoting close association: - also, and, together, with (-al).


From date: Monday, September 17, 2012
Added 3 years, 6 months, 23 days
Resulting date: Saturday, April 9, 2016 (Second Advent, our return with Jesus)(

To me, that total being over 3.5 years would mean that we have not yet come to Mid-Trib, but it seems close. Nov. 8/9, 2012 seems to be Mid-Trib. I think the Tribulation began on Pentecost, May 29, 2009.


1. Sunday, Nisan 16, 3790 (Hebrew), April 9, 30 AD, Julian), Resurrection of Jesus, the firstfruits

1Co_15:20 But now is Christ risen from the dead, and become the firstfruits of them that slept. 1Co_15:23 But every man in his own order (tagmati, rank): Christ the firstfruits; afterward they that are Christ's at his coming (parousia, coming, presence).

2. First-Trump Rapture, probably Monday, Sept. 17, 2012 (Gregorian)
3. Last-Trump Rapture, Probably Monday, Sept. 14, 2015 (Gregorian)

Jas_1:18 says, "Of his own will begat he us with the word of truth, that we should be a kind of firstfruits of his creatures."

Rev_14:4 says, "These (the 144,000 Israelites) are they which were not defiled with women; for they are virgins. These are they which follow the Lamb whithersoever he goeth. These were redeemed from among men, being the firstfruits unto God and to the Lamb."

Rev_20:5,6 says, "But the rest of the dead lived not again until the thousand years were finished. This is the first resurrection. 6 Blessed and holy is he that hath part in the first resurrection: on such the second death hath no power, but they shall be priests of God and of Christ, and shall reign with him a thousand years."

I was surprised to find out that in Rosh HaShanah l6b, the Talmud says, "The resurrection of the dead will take place on Rosh HaShanah." The Jews just might be right about this.

In "Rosh HaShanah," ("Chapter 7, The Season of Teshuvah," Eddie Chumney wrote:

"Rosh HaShanah: Names, Themes, and Idioms

1. Teshuvah (repentance)
2. Rosh HaShanah (Head of the Year, Birthday of the World)
3. Yom Teruah (the Day of the Awakening Blast [Feast of Trumpets)
4. Yom HaDin (the Day of Judgment)
5. HaMelech (the Coronation of the Messiah)
6. Yom HaZikkaron (the Day of Remembrance or memorial)
7. The time of Jacob's (Ya'akov) trouble (the birthpangs of the Messiah, Chevlai shel Mashiach)
8. The opening of the gates
9. Kiddushin/Nesu'in (the wedding ceremony)
10. The resurrection of the dead (rapture, natza1)
11. The last trump (shofar)
12. Yom Hakeseh (the hidden day)
"The ultimate shout is the rapture (natzal) in First Thessalonians 4:16-17."

"The theme of awakening from sleep is used throughout the Bible. It is found in John (Yochanan) 11:11; Romans 13:11; Daniel 12:1-2; and Psalm (Tehillim) 78:65. In Isaiah 51:9 it is written, "Awake, awake, put on strength, O arm of the Lord; awake as in the days of old, the generations of long ago..." (NAS). The arm of the L-rd is used as a term for the Messiah in Isaiah (Yeshayahu) 53:1. The word arm is the Hebrew word zeroah. During Passover (Pesach), a shankbone, known as the zeroah, is put on the plate. So, "awake" is a term or idiom for Rosh HaShanah. In Isaiah (Yeshayahu) 51:9 quoted earlier, the awakening is associated with the coming of the Messiah....

"It was mentioned earlier in this chapter that the shofar blown on Rosh HaShanah is known as the last trump, which Rav Sha'ul (the apostle Paul) mentioned in First Thessalonians 4:16-17."

I think the First-Trump Rapture is the one in I Thess. 4:16,17, and the Last-Trump Rapture is the one in I Cor 15:51-54.

Rev 5:8-10 says, "...saints. 9 And they sung a new song, saying, Thou art worthy to take the book, and to open the seals thereof: for thou wast slain, and hast redeemed us to God by thy blood out of every kindred, and tongue, and people, and nation; 10 And hast made us unto our God kings and priests: and we shall reign on the earth."

There were no verse divisions in the original. The saints sing the new song.

Isa 26:19-21 says, "Thy dead men shall live, together with my dead body shall they arise (i.e., first rank, Nisan 16, 3790 [Hebrew], April 9, 30 AD [Julian]). Awake and sing, ye that dwell in dust: for thy dew is as the dew of herbs, and the earth shall cast out the dead. 20 Come, my people, enter thou into thy chambers, and shut thy doors about thee: hide thyself as it were for a little moment, until the indignation (lit., froth at the mouth fury, i.e., God's wrath) be overpast. 21 For, behold, the LORD cometh out of his place to punish the inhabitants of the earth for their iniquity: the earth also shall disclose her blood, and shall no more cover her slain."

I think the Day of God's Wrath will be Tishri 1, 5776 (Sept 14, 2015), and that Jesus will not return until the following Nisan 1, 5776 (April 9, 2016), the first day of the Sacred, Regnal and Jubilee year. When we are Raptured, we shall forever be with the Lord. That means that we would return to Earth with Christ on April 9, 2016.

R.B. Thieme thought that we would each bump one demon. If he was right, it seems that there would need to be the same number of saved as demons. There must be a lot of demons trying hard to keep us from reaching that number. I wonder, will we take the jobs of the angels that sinned?

I wonder when New Jerusalem will come down and orbit the Earth like the Moon? I hope the Lord will arrange for us to be shown all the things in the Bible that we missed. There seems to be more there than we can ever figure out, so we never tire of searching.


In Psalm 27:5 it is written, "For in the time of trouble He shall hide me in His pavilion; in the secret of His tabernacle shall He hide me; He shall set me up upon a rock."

The secret of His tabernacle is that the Holy of Holies represents the third heaven, a rock, a planet, Saturn. Josephus indicated that the lampstand represented 1. Sun, 2, Mercury, 3. Venus, 4. Earth, 5. Mars (1st heaven), 6. Jupiter (2nd heaven), and 7. Saturn (3rd Heaven).


We have a good chance that the upcoming Feast of Trumpets will be the day of the First-Trump Rapture. The Wedding Ring Eclipse of May 20 seems like an astonishingly well-placed sign. Since the Last-Trump Rapture will be on Trumpets, it makes sense that the First-Trump Rapture will be on Trumpets. Both groups would have the same birthstone, the September sapphire, the symbol of the location of the throne of Jesus in Eze 1:1, 26-28, on Saturn, the 3rd heaven that Paul was caught up to in II Cor. 12:1-4.

The trumpet was used when kings were crowned (1 Kings 1:34,39), and Rev 5:10 says, "And hast made us unto our God kings and priests: and we shall reign on (epi, on or over) the earth."

"The High Holidays are also when many believe the Mashiach will return – at the final blast of the Shofar." (

The Messianic Jews think of the month of Elul as the preparation for a wedding. They expect the gates of Heaven to be opened at the Last Trump, on Rosh HaShanah, the Feast of Trumpets, Tishri 1. So do I.

The feasts are a shadow of things to come. Col. 2:16-17 says, "let no one judge you in food or in drink, or regarding a FESTIVAL or a NEW MOON or sabbaths, 17 which are a shadow of things to come, but the substance is of Christ." The festival on a New Moon is Trumpets, and 100 blasts are blown that day.

Pentecost was specially for Christians, for the pouring out of the Holy Spirit, but not necessarily for the Rapture, and what feast does Pentecost look forward to? Trumpets.

Talking about the first Rapture, Heb 12:18,19,22-24 (ESV) says, "For you have not come to what may be touched, a blazing fire and darkness and gloom and a tempest and the sound of a trumpet (i.e., Mt. Sinai on Pentecost)...But you have come (i.e., in the First-Trump Rapture) to Mount Zion and to the city of the living God, the heavenly Jerusalem, and to innumerable angels in FESTAL gathering, and to the assembly of the firstborn who are enrolled in heaven, and to God, the judge of all, and to the spirits of the righteous".

This indicates that the First-Trump Rapture will be on a feast day. I now think this FESTAL GATHERING, when Jesus takes the Bride of Christ to the heavenly Jerusalem, will probably be on the Feast of Trumpets, Sept 17, 2012.

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