Pro and Con 1667

Posted 11-11-2012



By Marilyn Agee



My husband Ed, whose Grandmother Agee was part Cherokee, prayed for a Christian wife when on board a ship coming home from Japan after WWII ended, and got me. God pulled off some miracles to get us together. I was raised in Indiana until I was in High School. Ed was raised in Kingsport, TN. My dad was transferred from Vigo Ordinance in Terre Haute, IN, to Holston Ordinance Works, Kingsport, TN. Later, we moved from Cherokee Village, Kingsport, to HOW Staff Quarters 4 miles out of town. Just before Ed was discharged from the Army, his family also moved to the Staff Quarters. We met when we both got off the city bus at the same time and walked up the winding road through the woods together.

Ed was 22. I was 17. We fell in love with each other on our first date. Ed asked me to marry him three days later. I said, "Yes," and we married 6 months afterward, keeping it secret until I finished my last year in High School. By that time, Ed had finished his first year in college. We moved to Knoxville and lived in a trailer on the campus of the Univ. of Tennessee until he graduated.

God knew what he was doing in putting us together. We were so well matched that we didn't have a fight in our 65 years together.

Our daughter was born on May 29, which was Pentecost, the Feast of Weeks, in 30 AD (Julian), if you count omer 1 as the day after Firstfruits.

May 29 was the first day of Pentecost in 2009 (Gregorian), when I think the Tribulation started 2300 days (counted by inclusive reckoning) before the Day of God's Wrath on the Feast of Trumpets, Monday, Tishri 1, 5776, Sept 14, 2015.

Our son David was born on Crucifixion Day, April 6.

Ed died Dec 27, 2011, Tuesday, Teveth 1, 5772, the 7th day of Hanukkah.

On April 2, Ed was allowed to visit me briefly in his celestial body. He answered several questions I asked.

"Are you 30 or 33?" He said, "33".
"Can we be together forever?" He said, "Yes.
"Are there female angels in heaven?" He said, "Yes."
"Have you gotten with your family?" He said, "Yes."
"Have you gotten with my family?" He said, "Yes."
"Do you have a piano?" He said, "Yes," and walked through the wall.


My dad was on Earth 87 years in spite of having bone cancer in every bone in his body, caused by radiation sickness from an industrial accident when he lived in Miamisburg, OH.

It is amazing, but Ed also died when he was 87. He never walked again after having pneumonia. We were both in the hospital with pneumonia at the same time. I have permanent fibrosis of the lungs, but I got back on my feet, maybe because I was younger than Ed, or by the Lord's design.

My mother was on Earth 84 years, and I will be 84 Dec. 13, 2012. Just maybe I will be on Earth about 84 years too. The Rapture seems near.

On the morning after Mom's funeral, I awoke in her den, and heard her unusual and unmistakable voice say, "Marilyn, there's no way I'm 84 years old." Of course, she is now 33, like Ed.

It looks like the Rapture could be on the first day of Hanukkah (which means dedication), Sunday, Kislev 25, 5773, Dec. 9, 2012, the day following the date of Jesus' conception on Kislev 24.

It fits. We are called wise virgins and lights, and Jesus attended the Feast of Dedication, the Festival of Lights, Hanukkah.

Mat 25:1,2 says, "Then shall the kingdom of heaven be likened unto ten virgins, which took their lamps, and went forth to meet the bridegroom (Christ). 2 And five of them were wise, and five were foolish."

Php_2:15 says, "That ye may be blameless and harmless, the sons of God, without rebuke, in the midst of a crooked and perverse nation, among whom ye shine as lights in the world".

Joh 10:22,23 says, "And it was at Jerusalem the feast of the dedication, and it was winter. 23 And Jesus walked in the temple in Solomon's porch". Solomon means peaceful. We are the temple of the Holy Spirit, and will probably be raptured while it is still peaceful.

1Th 5:1-11 says, "But of the times and the seasons, brethren (i.e., believers), ye have no need that I write unto you. 2 For yourselves know perfectly that the day of the Lord (which is the Day of God's Wrath) so cometh as a thief in the night. 3 For when they (unbelievers) shall say, Peace and safety; then sudden destruction cometh upon them (not on us), as travail upon a woman with child; and they (unbelievers) shall not escape. 4 But ye, brethren (believers), are not in darkness, that that day should overtake you as a thief. 5 Ye are all the children of light, and the children of the day: we are not of the night, nor of darkness. 6 Therefore let us not sleep, as do others; but let us watch and be sober. 7 For they that sleep sleep in the night; and they that be drunken are drunken in the night. 8 But let us (believers), who are of the day, be sober, putting on the breastplate of faith and love; and for an helmet, the hope of salvation. 9 For God hath not appointed us to wrath, but to obtain salvation by our Lord Jesus Christ, 10 Who died for us, that, whether we wake or sleep, we should live together with him. 11 Wherefore comfort yourselves together, and edify one another, even as also ye do."

In John 10:27,28, Jesus said, "My sheep (i.e., we are the sheep of his pasture) hear my voice (i.e., saying, 'Come up hither'), and I know them, and they follow me: 28 And I give unto them eternal life."

Of the second Rapture, John 10:16 says, "And other sheep I have, which are not of this fold: them also I must bring, and they shall hear my voice; and there shall be one fold, and one shepherd."

The two sheepfolds are pictured in the ancient Zodiac. Today we call those constellations Ursa Major and Ursa Minor, which is not very helpful.

Hurricane Sandy, a significant sign, flooded the UN building in New York October 29, just 40 days before Kislev 25, the first day of Hanukkah. The water from the storm of the century caused unprecedented damage. There was a small fire at a circuit breaker that was put out quickly by the incoming water. The water affected electrical components and the UN computer system. They were closed three days, and replacing the ruined equipment will be very costly.

BELIEVERS ARE WISE VIRGINS, WHOSE LAMPS ARE LIT. Luke_12:35 says, "Let your loins be girded about, and your lights burning". I think this ties the Parable of the Ten Virgins in with the Festival of Lights, Hanukkah, when the consecrated oil for one day burned miraculously for 8 days. The 7 feasts belong to Israel, but I think Hanukkah belongs to those who accept Christ as their own personal Saviour. We are the temple of the Holy Spirit, and the temple was reconsecrated on that Feast of Dedication.

Hanukkah is kept 8 days. The trumpet is blown on the first day of the month Teveth, Dec. 14, 2012, the anniversary of Ed's death on Teveth 1, 5772 (Dec. 27, 2011). Wow, is the Lord trying to tell me something? The trumpet blown reminds me of the Rapture. Maybe the Rapture will come during Hanukkah. I will be 84 on Dec 13 too.

Num 10:1-4 says, "the LORD spake unto Moses, saying, 2 Make thee two trumpets of silver; of a whole piece shalt thou make them: that thou mayest use them for the calling of the assembly (see Heb. 12:22-24), and for the journeying of the camps. 3 And when they shall blow with them (i.e.both), all the assembly shall assemble themselves to thee at the door of the tabernacle of the congregation. 4 And if they blow but with one trumpet, then the princes (i.e., the elders of Rev 4:4), which are heads of the thousands of Israel, shall gather themselves unto thee."

Num 10:10 says, "Also in the day of your gladness (i.e., our gladness will be at the Raptures), and in your solemn days, and in the beginnings of your months, ye shall blow with the trumpets".

Php_2:15 says, "That ye may be blameless and harmless, the sons of God, without rebuke, in the midst of a crooked and perverse nation, among whom ye shine as lights in the world".


Joh_10:22 says, "And it was at Jerusalem the feast of the dedication". Hannukah means dedication. The first day will be Kislev 25, Sunday, Dec. 9, 2012.

Jesus walked in the temple in Solomon's porch, and in present tense, said, "MY SHEEP HEAR MY VOICE, AND I KNOW THEM, AND THEY FOLLOW ME: AND I GIVE UNTO THEM ETERNAL LIFE; AND THEY SHALL NEVER PERISH".


It could be on Kislev 25, Dec. 9, or Teveth 1, Dec. 14, because it looks like the trumpet will be blown on the first day of the feast, Kislev 25, and on Teveth 1 (Dec. 14). Either way, it looks like the Rapture will be near my 84th birthday, Dec. 13. It looks like I might live on Earth about 84 years like my mother.


In Rev 1:9-11, John said, "I John, who also am your brother, and companion in tribulation, and in the kingdom and patience of Jesus Christ, was in the isle that is called Patmos (meaning mortal), for the word of God, and for the testimony of Jesus Christ. 10 I was (lit., became) in the Spirit on the Lord's day".

This sounds like the Rapture will be on Sunday. Kislev 25 (Dec. 9) will be on Sunday this year. For the most likely date of the Rapture, I pick Kislev 25, the first day of Hanukkah. The sign, the hurricane Sandy, flooded the UN building on Oct. 29. Forty days afterward is Saturday, Kislev 24, the Eve of Hanukkah.

However, Haggai 2:18,19 says, "Consider now from (min, after) this day (Kislev 24) and upward, from the four and twentieth day of the ninth month, even from the day that the foundation (Jesus) of the LORD'S temple was laid (i.e., from Kislev 24, Jesus' conception day), consider it. 19 Is the seed (zera, seed or child) yet in the barn? (a saying, meaning is she pregnant) yea (YES, Jesus was conceived), as yet (i.e., on Kislev 24) the vine (Jesus), and the fig tree (Israel), and the pomegranate (meaning upright), and the olive tree (Israel with us grafted in), hath not brought forth: from this day (i.e., on Kislev 25, the day after Kislev 24) will I bless you."

It looks like we are the end of the olive harvest. No more can be harvested after Kislev 24.

Joh_4:35: "Say not ye, There are yet four months (Teveth, Shevat, Adar and Nisan, 5773 is not a leap year), and then cometh harvest? behold, I say unto you, Lift up your eyes, and look on the fields; for they are white already to harvest."


I just found this on RITA. I think you will enjoy reading the whole thing after you finish this.

"Hanukkah - The Second Feast of Tabernacles"

Here is a sample:
"In the book of Maccabees the history of the temple rededication is recorded. In the fourth chapter it reads in part: "The entire army gathered together and went up to Mount Zion. They saw the sanctuary desolated and the altar profaned, the gates burned up, and weeds growing in the courts as in a forest or as on one of the mountains, and the priests' chambers torn down. They tore their garments and made great lamentation, and put ashes on their heads, and fell on their faces on the ground, blew solemn blasts upon the trumpets, and cried out to Heaven.' This was the LAST TRUMPET that was blown on the LAST FEAST DAY of the year."

It looks like they did blow the trumpet on Kislev 25, which will be Dec. 9, 2012. That can be the day of the Rapture.

1 Maccabees 4:36-59 says, "Then Judas and his brothers said, 'See, our enemies are crushed; let us go up to cleanse the sanctuary and dedicate it.' 37So all the army assembled and went up to Mount Zion. 38There they saw the sanctuary desolate, the altar profaned, and the gates burned. In the courts they saw bushes sprung up as in a thicket, or as on one of the mountains. They saw also the chambers of the priests in ruins. 39Then they tore their clothes and mourned with great lamentation; they sprinkled themselves with ashes 40and fell face down on the ground. And when the signal was given with the trumpets, they cried out to Heaven.

"41 Then Judas detailed men to fight against those in the citadel until he had cleansed the sanctuary. 42He chose blameless priests (we are called priests) devoted to the law, 43and they cleansed the sanctuary and removed the defiled stones to an unclean place."

POST ON FIVE DOVES, RE: Carl Worline (8 Nov 2012) "An Increased Urgency in Prophecy and Revelation 12:9 Fulfillment"

Below is a link to a post from yesterday's Rapture Flight to Heaven by a woman named Amanda (7777 ladyam). I have a very strong gut feeling that her prophecies are true. Anyway, it is a very powerful message and well worth listening to. Below that is another posting she made a little later.

I find it very interesting that the prophecies we are hearing lately are increasing in urgency. I also find it very interesting that more and more prophecies are telling us that Satan has just been thrown out of heaven (as per Revelation 12:9), and that the demons are being released upon the earth. I have heard this from Amanda, Dan and Barbara of Godshealer7, and Sparrow (I think) from RITAN. It is very unusual for prophecies from different people to agree like this, so maybe it is really true.

Use your own discernment, of course. I am certainly no expert.

I am beginning to wonder if, perhaps, God was waiting for the election to be over in order to give us one more chance to see who we elected for our leader, and to see if we would vote for against homosexual marriage in several states that had it on their ballots. Maybe our choices as a nation will be the catalyst that triggers the "sudden destruction." I am sure you all noticed that California, Oregon, Washington, Nevada, and Colorado all went "blue" and voted for Obama. Perhaps the entire western United States really will break off and fall into the ocean (or be drenched in a tsunami). After all, we have just had a 7.7 earthquake to the north of the US in Canada, and now a 7.4 earthquake to the south of the US in Guatemala.

Carl Worline


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> > Published Nov 7, 2012, by 7777superladyam

> > "True followers of Christ stay ready we are heading out of here soon and stay in the ark of safety. Keep your crowns and keep your garments spotless. Abide in Christ and let him abide in you. continue in repentence and stay covered by the blood of Jesus. To the backsliders and those that are lukewarm get down on your knees now because you do not have time to wait much longer. It is slim to none! I had a dream about war in heaven going on now and the demons are being thrown out. Satan being thrown out as well.

I watched them go into the pit even in a volcano and then I saw hordes of demons coming out of it to torment the people on earth. I heard a voice that said the people will see them and hearts fail them for fear. That was a small portion of the dream I got today this morning of Nov. 7th. Time is now! Time is here! Repent or get left behind to face hell on earth. Things will be normal to most because of thier blindness, but soon thier blindness will come off and they will see.

> > I had a dream about war in heaven going on now and the demons are being thrown out. Satan being thrown out as well.

That could be true. Today is Thursday, Nov. 8, 2012. It looks like this is Mid-Trib. There are 1040 days between this date and Tishri 1, 5776, Mon. Sept. 14, 2015, probably the Day of God's Wrath, and that will be 2300 days from Pentecost, May 29, 2009.

THE 2300-DAY TRIBULATION (1260 + 1040 = 2300)

Dan. 8:13,14 says, "Then I heard one saint speaking, and another saint said unto that certain saint which spake, How long shall be the vision concerning the daily sacrifice, and the transgression of desolation, to give both the sanctuary and the host to be trodden under foot? 14 And he said unto me, Unto two thousand and three hundred days; then shall the sanctuary be cleansed."

Rev 12:7-13 says, "And there was war in heaven: Michael and his angels fought against the dragon; and the dragon fought and his angels, 8 And prevailed not; neither was their place found any more in heaven. 9 And the great dragon was cast out, that old serpent, called the Devil, and Satan, which deceiveth the whole world: he was cast out into the earth, and his angels were cast out with him. 10 And I heard a loud voice saying in heaven, Now is come salvation, and strength, and the kingdom of our God, and the power of his Christ: for the accuser of our brethren is cast down, which accused them before our God day and night. 11 And they overcame him by the blood of the Lamb, and by the word of their testimony; and they loved not their lives unto the death. 12 Therefore rejoice, ye heavens, and ye that dwell in them. Woe to the inhabiters of the earth and of the sea! for the devil is come down unto you, having great wrath, because he knoweth that he hath but a short time (i.e, 1040 days). 13 And when the dragon saw that he was cast unto the earth, he persecuted the woman which brought forth the man child."

We seem to have less than a month now until the Rapture, Kislev 25, 5773, Sunday, Dec. 9, 2012, the first day of Hanukkah. From date:Thursday, November 8, 2012
Added 30 days
Resulting date: Saturday, December 8, 2012, Kislev 24, 5773, Eve of Hanukkah, the Festival of lights.

Hag 2:18, 19 says, "Consider (sum labab, take it to heart) now from this day and upward (maal, very high, from alah, to ascend), from the four and twentieth day of the ninth month (Kislev 24), even from the day that the foundation (i.e., Jesus) of the LORD'S temple (we are the Temple of the Holy Spirit, and Jesus is the cornerstone and foundation upon which we are built) was laid (i.e., Jesus was conceived on Kislev 24), consider it. 19 Is the seed (zera, seed or child) yet in the barn (a saying, meaning is she pregnant)? yea (YES), as yet the vine (Jesus), and the fig tree (Israel), and the pomegranate (means upright), and the olive tree (Israel with us grafted in), hath not brought forth (NASA, lifted up, i.e., been raptured): from this day (Kislev 24) will I bless you."

Rev 17:8-14 says, "The beast that thou sawest (i.e., Satan) was (in Heaven), and is not (in Heaven now); and shall ascend out of the bottomless pit, and go into perdition (the False Prophet): and they that dwell on the earth shall wonder, whose names were not written in the book of life from the foundation of the world, when they behold the beast (Satan) that was (in Judas Iscariot), and is not (in man), and yet is (he exists). 9 And here is the mind which hath wisdom. The seven heads are seven mountains, on which the woman (i.e., the harlot world church) sitteth. 10 And there are seven kings: five are fallen (Babel, Babylon II, Media-Persia, Greece, Holy Roman Empire), and one is (Ecclesiastical Roman Empire), and the other (Babylon III) is not yet come; and when he cometh, he must continue a short space. 11 And the beast (Satan) that was (in Judas Iscariot), and is not (in man at the time of the Rapture), even he is the eighth, and is of the seven, and goeth into perdition (i.e., the False Prophet). 12 And the ten horns which thou sawest are ten kings, which have received no kingdom as yet; but receive power as kings one hour with the beast. 13 These have one mind, and shall give their power and strength unto the beast. 14 These shall make war with the Lamb (i.e., at Armageddon), and the Lamb (Jesus) shall overcome them: for he is Lord of lords, and King of kings: and they that are (present tense) with him (i.e., those that have just been raptured) are called, and chosen, and faithful."

Luk 12:46 says, "The lord of that servant (the unwise one) will come in a day when he looketh not for him, and at an hour when he is not aware, and will cut him in sunder (lit., cut him off), and will appoint him his portion (i.e., of the Tribulation) with the unbelievers."

Mt 24:51 adds, "And shall cut him asunder, and appoint him his portion with the hypocrites (pretenders): there shall be weeping and gnashing of teeth."

Mat 22:10-14 says, "So those servants went out into the highways, and gathered together all as many as they found, both bad and good: and the wedding was furnished with guests. 11 And when the king came in to see the guests, he saw there a man which had not on a wedding garment (like the foolish-virgin Laodiceans): 12 And he saith unto him, Friend, how camest thou in hither not having a wedding garment? And he was speechless. 13 Then said the king to the servants, Bind him hand and foot, and take him away, and cast him into outer darkness; there shall be weeping and gnashing of teeth. 14 For many are called, but few are chosen."


marilyn, i sure appreciated your telling that story about your husband again..........i have always wanted ''proof'' of life after death but have never known anyone well to trust them. needless to say i trust you.

RE THIS subject II Cor. 5 , the first part is 'hard' to understand, because part of it seems to be speaking of the life just after death.......vs. 1 and later.........but just after vs. 1 Paul seems to alluded to the blessed hope...........would appreciate your thoughts on this. God bless


Man is body, soul and spirit. Before I get into II Cor. 5, there is a celestial body, a spiritual body. It is real, just as Heaven is real. The celestial body is what Ed has now. It looks exactly like the terrestrial body, but it can walk through the wall. Ed and the resurrected Jesus both walked through a wall. Jesus and Ed both had on clothing. Jesus' was probably a robe. Ed's was a black suit, of thinner material than his earthly suits, that hung normally on his shoulders, chest, arms, and waist, flowed around his leg as if the leg was solid, and had the sheen of silk. The clothing also went through the wall. I didn't think to look at Ed's feet, but saw his pants flow around his shin bone as he walked briskly, so assume he had on black shoes. Otherwise, I think it would have caught my eye if he was walking barefoot on the dark green carpet.

The reason I was worried about whether or not Ed and I could be together in heaven is Mat_22:30. It says, "For in the resurrection they neither marry, nor are given in marriage, but are as the angels of God in heaven."

Luk_20:35 says, "But they which shall be accounted worthy to obtain that world, and the resurrection from the dead, neither marry, nor are given in marriage".

Yet, Gen_2:24 says, "Therefore shall a man leave his father and his mother, and shall cleave unto his wife: and they shall be one flesh."

Mar_10:8 says, "they twain shall be one flesh: so then they are no more twain, but one flesh."

Eph_5:31 says, "For this cause shall a man leave his father and mother, and shall be joined unto his wife, and they two shall be one flesh."

Mt 19:5,6 was the most reassuring. It says, "For this cause shall a man leave father and mother, and shall cleave to his wife: and they twain shall be one flesh? 6 Wherefore they are no more twain, but one flesh. What therefore God hath joined together, let not man put asunder."

Ed said, "Yes" when I asked him if we could be together forever. Now I can be sure.

The reason I asked Ed if there were female angels in heaven, is because it seems that only male angels are talked about in Scripture. Also, Luk_20:36 says, "Neither can they die any more: for they are equal unto the angels; and are the children of God, being the children of the resurrection."

1Th_5:23 says, "And the very God of peace sanctify you wholly; and I pray God your whole spirit and soul and body be preserved blameless unto the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ."

In the Preview of the Rapture, Rev 1:9,10 says, "I John, who also am your brother, and companion in tribulation, and in the kingdom and patience of Jesus Christ, was in the isle that is called Patmos (meaning mortal), for the word of God, and for the testimony of Jesus Christ. 10 I was (lit. became) in the Spirit (pneuma, a spirit, that is, the rational soul) on the Lord's day (Sunday, Hanukkah begins on Sunday this year), and heard behind me a great voice, as of a trumpet". That is the First-Trump-Rapture, and it is in the Tribulation, which I didn't recognize at first. We all have tribulations, so I didn't know how to take that.

1Co 15:40-44 says, "There are also celestial bodies, and bodies terrestrial: but the glory of the celestial is one, and the glory of the terrestrial is another. 41 There is one glory of the sun, and another glory of the moon, and another glory of the stars: for one star differeth from another star in glory. 42 So also is the resurrection of the dead. It is sown in corruption; it is raised in incorruption: 43 It is sown in dishonour; it is raised in glory: it is sown in weakness; it is raised in power: 44 It is sown a natural body; it is raised a spiritual body. There is a natural body, and there is a spiritual body."

2Co 4:14,-16 shows that Paul is talking to Christians. He said, " Knowing that he which raised up the Lord Jesus shall raise up us also by Jesus, and shall present us with you. 15 For all things are for your sakes, that the abundant grace might through the thanksgiving of many redound to the glory of God. 16 For which cause we faint not; but though our outward man (i.e., the body) perish, yet the inward man (i.e., the soul and spirit) is renewed (anakainoo, renovated, renewed) day by day."

Now, let's look at 2Co 5:1-10. I'll look up some of the original words, hoping it will give both of us better understanding.

It says, "For we know that if our earthly house (oikia, residence) of this tabernacle (skenos, temporary residence, figuratively, the human body as the temporary abode of the spirit) were dissolved (kataluo, dissolved, disintegrated, demolished, as after death), we have a building (oikodome, structure) of God, an house (oikia, a residence, i.e., a celestial body) not made with hands, eternal in the heavens. 2 For in this we groan, earnestly desiring to be clothed upon with our house (oiketerion, residence, something you live in, i.e., the celestial body) which is from heaven: 3 If so be that being clothed we shall not be found naked. 4 For we that are in this tabernacle (skenos, temporary residence, figuratively the human body as the abode of the soul and spirit) do groan, being burdened: not for that we would be unclothed, but clothed upon, that mortality (thnetos, the ability to die) might be swallowed up of life (i.e., at the time of the Last-Trump Rapture of I Cor 15:51-54, the body will become immortal). 5 Now he that hath wrought (katergazomai, fashioned) us for the selfsame thing is God, who also hath given unto us the earnest (arrhabon, property given in advance as security for the rest) of the Spirit (pneuma, spirit, that is the rational soul, the vital principle). 6 Therefore we are always confident, knowing that, whilst we are at home in the body, we are absent from the Lord: 7 (For we walk by faith, not by sight:) 8 We are confident, I say, and willing rather to be absent from the body, and to be present with the Lord. 9 Wherefore we labour, that, whether present (i.e., on earth) or absent (i.e., in heaven), we may be accepted of him. 10 For we must all appear before the judgment seat of Christ; that every one may receive (i.e., rewards for) the things done in his body, according to that he hath done, whether it be good or bad."

Rev 11:18 says, "And the nations were angry, and thy wrath is come, and the time of the dead, that they should be judged, and that thou shouldest give reward unto thy servants the prophets, and to the saints, and them that fear thy name, small and great; and shouldest destroy them which destroy the earth." That great and terrible Day of the Lord will probably be the Feast of Trumpets, Tishri 1, 5776, Sept. 14, 2015.

In Job, the oldest book in the Bible, 19:25-27 says, "For I know that my redeemer (i.e., YHWH of hosts, Christ, Isa 44:6) liveth, and that he shall stand at the latter day upon the earth: 26 after my skin worms destroy this body, yet in my flesh (basar, flesh, from its freshness) shall I see God: 27 Whom I shall see for myself (i.e., Christ), and mine eyes shall behold, and not another (i.e., even in heaven, the Father is in Christ so we can see him); though my reins (kilyah, essential organs) be consumed within me."

Job_33:25 says "His flesh shall be fresher than a child's: he shall return to the days of his youth". Ed, who was 87 when he died, said, when he visited me, that he was "33" and he looked it. I found a picture of him when he was 32. He looked exactly like that picture, except he was grinning from ear to ear like the picture I posted on my website. I recognized him the second I saw him. There was no problem there.


The first death is of the body. The second death is of the soul. There is no mention of a spirit ever dying.

Isa_10:18 says, "And shall consume the glory of his forest, and of his fruitful field, both soul and body".

Isa_66:24 says, "And they shall go forth, and look upon the carcases of the men that have transgressed against me: for their worm shall not die, neither shall their fire be quenched; and they shall be an abhorring unto all flesh."

Speaking of Elijah, 1Ki_17:21,22 says, "And he stretched himself upon the child (i.e., upon his lifeless body) three times, and cried unto the LORD, and said, O LORD my God, I pray thee, let this child's soul come into him again. 22 And the LORD heard the voice of Elijah; and the soul of the child came into him again, and he revived."

Mat_10:28 says, "fear not them which kill the body, but are not able to kill the soul: but rather fear him which is able to destroy both soul and body in hell."

Eze_18:20 says, "The soul that sinneth, it shall die."

I hope this is helpful. Agape

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