Pro and Con 1693
VIEW OF THE AQUEDUCT THAT RAN FROM THE EIN EITAM SPRING
NEAR BETHLEHEM TO THE TEMPLE MOUNT
INCOMING EMAIL, RE: Thanks for Feedback on Malachi 4: the Day of the Lord, Torah and Elijah
Thanks very much for your feedback on my Five Doves post Malachi 4: the Day of the Lord, the Torah and Elijah - it is very much appreciated! I have been following Five Doves for many years and it has been a wonderful journey of discovery, and of patience in waiting for Jesus' return. I have read many of your posts on Five Doves over the years, but it was only when I explored your website that I realised just how faithful to the Lord you have been over many, many years - my reply was number 1688!!!! I also admire your great knowledge, understanding and direct use of the Word of God, including the Prophets. There is great expectancy at present and if there was a rapture meter it would be on very high at present. In Australia we have had fires and amazing floods (rainfall as high as 1000 mm or 40 inches in a couple of days).
Various prophetic timelines are converging and Passover 2013 looms as a pivotal time. While we share an intense love for the Lord's Appearing and the Rapture, there are naturally differences in how we see events unfolding. I am out on a limb, and my limb is longer than most! However, I believe that the world as we know it is about to end and the Day of the Lord will soon begin. Two jigsaw pieces have influenced my thinking. The first is the Lord's Day in Revelation 1:10. I noted in your Pros and Cons 1683 that you believe this is Sunday. I feel that John was taken in the Spirit to the Day of the Lord, and saw what was happening (the Spirit speaking to the Church) and what was going to happen in the future (Rev 1:19). The second piece of the puzzle for me is Jesus '(rhetorical) question in John 11:9 - are there not 12 hours in the Day?
I have outlined my view of the 12 hours (years) in the Day of the Lord (see below). I live, however, with the expectancy of the Rapture at any time - the Rebecca rapture - in Genesis 24 the Servant (Holy Spirit) turned up at a time that was not known to take a bride for Isaac. Some things to do with the 2nd Coming will become clearer very soon!
Before the Day of the Lord - Elijah and repentance, with world shaking events
Before/During first part of Day of the Lord - Remnant church (standing with Israel) - ready for rapture at any time!
Hour 1: Outpouring of the Holy Spirit upon all flesh /revival/mighty works
Hours 2 and 3: Continuing revival but ecumenism and deception in the church - spiritual/political battle for Israel
Hour four: year of vengeance - for Israel and the remnant church (if not raptured by then)
Hour five: ten kings reigning with beast/time of persecution for Christians left behind.
Hours six to 12: seven years of Jacob's trouble (for Israel) - 3 1/2 years for two/144 000 witnesses and 3 1/2 years for God's wrath). Denis Hart, Maranatha!!!!
Thanks for your kind words. Ed got me an electric typewriter first. Then he got me a Mac and had the Apple rep meet me in the store to show me enough to get started. I wrote 3 books, then Ed signed me up for the Internet. I got my Web Site up in October, 1996 - the hard way, by searching the Internet for information on HTML, color charts, etc., and learning how to use my computer by trial and error.
I think John Tng started Five Doves the following February. We have been at this about 16 years. You can tell that we are devoted watchers....
I believe what Mar_13:37 says, "what I say unto you I say unto all, Watch."
Rev_3:3 says, "Remember therefore how thou hast received and heard, and hold fast, and repent. If therefore thou shalt not watch, I will come on thee as a thief, and thou shalt not know what hour I will come upon thee."
Dan 12:10 says, "Many shall be purified, and made white, and tried; but the wicked shall do wickedly: and NONE of the wicked shall understand; but the WISE shall understand."
I have been studying the Bible as hard as I can go since 1960. I want to be one of the wise who understands. If I make mistakes along the way, so be it. I do the very best I can at every stage.
Once, at twilight, tired after typing all day on Ed's old college portable typewriter, I grabbed my closed Bible and threw myself down on across the bed saying to myself, "Why am I doing all this? In that darkened room with its closed interlined draperies, the Lord opened my Bible just a few inches under my face and put a rectangle of light on Jer 50:2.
Stunned, I read over and over, "Declare ye among the nations, and PUBLISH, and set up a standard; PUBLISH, AND CONCEAL NOT: say, Babylon is taken, Bel is confounded, Merodach is broken in pieces; her idols are confounded, her images are broken in pieces", and I had been writing about the three Babylons, Nimrod's Tower of Babel, Nebuchadnezzar's Babylon II, and the False Prophet's Babylon III. Needless to say, I have been writing ever since. This incident may be why Ed got me a heavy desk and a #40 Olympic electric typewriter for my 40th birthday. We made the garage into a room for my studies and for me to teach Good News Club in.
> > In Australia we have had fires and amazing floods (rainfall as high as 1000 mm or 40 inches in a couple of days).
Oh, my goodness. I can't imagine 20 or 22 inches in one day, like my friend in Pensacola had this year, let alone 40 inches in two days. When we got 7 inches in one day here in Southern California in 1968, Ed couldn't get the car home....
> > Various prophetic timelines are converging and Passover 2013 looms as a pivotal time. While we share an intense love for the Lord's Appearing and the Rapture, there are naturally differences in how we see events unfolding. I am out on a limb, and my limb is longer than most! However, I believe that the world as we know it is about to end and the Day of the Lord will soon begin. Two jigsaw pieces have influenced my thinking. The first is the Lord's Day in Revelation 1:10. I noted in your Pros and Cons 1683 that you believe this is Sunday. I feel that John was taken in the Spirit to the Day of the Lord, and saw what was happening (the Spirit speaking to the Church) and what was going to happen in the future (Rev 1:19). The second piece of the puzzle for me is Jesus '(rhetorical) question in John 11:9 - are there not 12 hours in the Day?...
> > I have outlined my view of the 12 hours (years) in the Day of the Lord (see below)....
I have taken the Day of the Lord to be ONE LITERAL DAY, the Day of God's wrath, Jesus' Long Day, of which Joshua's Long Day is a type.
Joe 1:15 says, "Alas for the DAY! for the DAY of the LORD is at hand, and as a destruction from the Almighty shall it come."
How can the destruction of every city in the world on the "DAY" of the Lord be spread over 12 years?
I think the Day of the Lord is the day Satan's asteroid Wormwood (Rev 8:11) will impact Earth.
> > Hour 1: Outpouring of the Holy Spirit upon all flesh /revival/mighty works
I took this to be after Jesus returns. His first coming is as the former rain, i.e., Tishri 1. His second coming is as the latter rain, i.e., Nisan 1.
Hos 6:1-3 says, "Come, and let us return unto the LORD: for he hath torn, and he will heal us; he hath smitten, and he will bind us up. 2 After two days will he revive us: in the third day he will raise us up, and we shall live in his sight. 3 Then shall we know, if we follow on to know the LORD: his going forth is prepared as the morning; and he shall come unto us as the rain, as the latter and former rain unto the earth."
"Latter rain" in the Bible literally refers to spring rains. "Former rain" refers to autumn rains. The terms latter and former rains are used in the King James Version of the Bible. Some newer translations, such as the New International Version, use the terms autumn (or fall) and spring rains."
Unger's Bible Dictionary showed the former rain in Tishri and the latter rain in Nisan on a chart showing when certain crops were harvested.
Joe 2:23-29 says, "Be glad then, ye children of Zion, and rejoice in the LORD your God: for he hath given you the FORMER RAIN moderately, and he will cause to come down for you the rain, the former rain, and the LATTER RAIN in the first month. 24 And the floors shall be full of wheat, and the fats shall overflow with wine and oil. 25 And I will restore to you the years that the locust hath eaten, the cankerworm, and the caterpiller, and the palmerworm, my great army which I sent among you. 26 And ye shall eat in plenty, and be satisfied, and praise the name of the LORD your God, that hath dealt wondrously with you: and my people shall never be ashamed. 27 And ye shall know that I AM IN THE MIDST OF ISRAEL, and that I am the LORD your God, and none else: and my people shall never be ashamed. 28 And it shall come to pass AFTERWARD, THAT I WILL POUR OUT MY SPIRIT UPON ALL FLESH; and your sons and your daughters shall prophesy, your old men shall dream dreams, your young men shall see visions: 29 And also upon the servants and upon the handmaids in those days will I pour out my spirit."
> > Hour four: year of vengeance - for Israel and the remnant church (if not raptured by then)
Isa_34:8 says, "For it is the DAY of the LORD'S vengeance, and the YEAR of recompences for the controversy of Zion."
I think there will be two Raptures before the DAY of God's vengeance, Tishri 1, in the YEAR of recompences for the controversy of Jerusalem, 5776. Every wall will fall (Eze 38:18f) on the DAY of God's Vengeance. All cities will be shambles.
Eze 38:18-23 says, "And it shall come to pass at the same time when Gog shall come against the land of Israel, saith the Lord GOD, that my fury shall come up in my face. 19 For in my jealousy and in the fire of my wrath have I spoken, Surely in that day there shall be a great shaking in the land of Israel; 20 So that the fishes of the sea, and the fowls of the heaven, and the beasts of the field, and all creeping things that creep upon the earth, and all the men that are upon the face of the earth, shall shake at my presence (paniym, face, i.e., they will see the Sign of the Son of Man in the sky), and the mountains shall be thrown down, and the steep places shall fall, and every wall shall fall to the ground. 21 And I will call for a sword against him throughout all my mountains, saith the Lord GOD: every man's sword shall be against his brother. 22 And I will plead against him with pestilence and with blood; and I will rain upon him, and upon his bands, and upon the many people that are with him, an overflowing rain (geshem, shower, i.e., a tsunami when the mountain hits the NW Mediterranean Sea), and great hailstones, fire, and brimstone. 23 Thus will I magnify myself, and sanctify myself; and I will be known in the EYES of many nations, and they shall know that I am the LORD."
Rev 16:18-20 says, "And there were voices, and thunders, and lightnings; and there was a great earthquake, such as was not since men were upon the earth, so mighty an earthquake, and so great. 19 And the great city was divided into three parts, and the cities of the nations fell: and great Babylon came in remembrance before God, to give unto her the cup of the wine of the fierceness of his wrath. 20 And every island fled away, and the mountains were not found."
Rev 18:21 says, "And a mighty angel took up a stone like a great millstone (i.e., Satan's asteroid Wormwood, Rev 8:11), and cast it into the sea, saying, Thus with violence shall that great city Babylon be thrown down, and shall be found no more at all."
> > Hour five: ten kings reigning with beast/time of persecution for Christians left behind.
You are right about the Christians, i.e., the Foolish Virgins, left behind. Their Rapture comes right after the great and terrible DAY OF THE LORD arrives. See Rev 6:17 and 7:14).
I am sure hoping for the First-Trump Rapture on May 5, 2013. That will be ASCENSION DAY and the Eastern Orthodox Easter SUNDAY, i.e., RESURRECTION DAY.
The Holy Fire at the Church of the Holy Sepulchre in Jerusalem on Holy Saturday will probably introduce the day of the First-Trump Rapture. Why else would the Lord send the Holy Fire soon after 2 PM on the Saturday before the Orthodox Easter? One year, someone changed the date of the Orthodox Easter, and no fire came. They went back to using the Julian Calendar used in 30 AD, and the HOLY FIRE has come every year since.
Exo_13:21 says, "And the LORD went before them by day in a pillar of a cloud, TO LEAD THEM THE WAY; and by night IN A PILLAR OF FIRE, to give them light; to go by day and night".
To me, it looks like the Lord comes in that Holy Fire to show us the correct way to figure Easter, and now, maybe Ascension Day too.
Re: Ascension Day, Jesus ascended on Omer 40.
Act_1:3 says, "To whom also he shewed himself alive (i.e., on Sunday, Nisan 16) after his passion by many infallible proofs, being SEEN of them forty days, and speaking of the things pertaining to the kingdom of God".
Of Ascension Day, Act 1:10,11 says, "And while they looked stedfastly toward heaven as HE WENT UP, behold, two men stood by them in white apparel; Which also said, Ye men of Galilee, why stand ye gazing up into heaven? this same Jesus, which is TAKEN UP FROM YOU INTO HEAVEN, SHALL SO COME IN LIKE MANNER as ye have seen him GO (poreuomai, DEPART, GO UP) into heaven."
Re: counting to Pentecost, Lev 23:15,16 says, "And ye shall count unto you from the morrow (i.e., Sunday) after the sabbath ( Saturday), from the day that ye brought the sheaf of the wave offering; seven sabbaths shall be complete: 16 Even unto the morrow after the seventh sabbath shall ye number fifty days; and ye shall offer a new meat offering unto the LORD."
Counting Nisan 16 (when he was first seen after his resurrection) as Omer 1 and Iyar 25 as Omer 40, the 25th of Iyar, 5773 = Sun, 5 May 2013.
Does "in like manner" suggest that the Body of Christ will DEPART, GO UP on Ascension Day, the day the body of Christ DEPARTED?
Rev 1:9-11 says, "I John, who also am your brother, and companion in tribulation, and in the kingdom and patience of Jesus Christ, was in the isle that is called Patmos (meaning mortal), for the word of God, and for the testimony of Jesus Christ. 10 I was (lit., became) in the Spirit on the Lord's day (SUNDAY, day of Jesus' resurrection), and heard behind me a great voice, as of a trumpet, 11 Saying, I am Alpha and Omega, the first and the last".
Rev 17:12-14 says, "And the ten horns which thou sawest are ten kings, which have received no kingdom as yet; but receive power as kings one hour with the beast. 13 These have one mind, and shall give their power and strength unto the beast. 14 These shall make war with the Lamb, and the Lamb shall overcome them: for he is Lord of lords, and King of kings: and they that are with him (i.e., the First-Trump Rapture is past) are called, and chosen, and faithful."
Maybe the First-Trump Rapture will take place on Sun. May 5, 2013. If not then, it seems like it should be soon. The next Pope may be the False Prophet.
Maybe war is going to take place in Heaven and Satan be cast out soon. Then it looks like we could go up to Heaven after they are cast out. I wonder if we will take their places in the government of God.
I think the Last-Trump Rapture will take place on Sunday/Monday, Sept. 13/14, 2015, ending the shortened Great Tribulation.
Rev 7:14 says, "These are they which came out of great tribulation, and have washed their robes, and made them white in the blood of the Lamb."
Rev 6:12 says, "And I beheld when he had opened the sixth seal, and, lo, there was a great earthquake; and the sun became black as sackcloth of hair, and the moon became as blood".
There will be a partial Solar eclipse on Sunday, Sept. 13, 2015.
"NASA - Partial Solar Eclipse of 2015 September 13
There will be a Total Lunar Eclipse on Sept. 28, 2015.
A total lunar eclipse will take place on September 28, 2015, the second of two total lunar eclipses in 2015."
Mon, 28 September 2015 = 15th of Tishri, 5776, the Feast of Tabernacles.
Catalog of Lunar Eclipses: 2001 to 2100 - NASA Eclipse Web Site
"The following tetrads occur during this century... Tetrad: 2014 - 2015".
Rev 6:17 says, "For the great day of his wrath is come; and who shall be able to stand?" I think the Day of God's Wrath will be Sept. 14, 2015, the Feast of Trumpets.
> > Hours six to 12: seven years of Jacob's trouble (for Israel) - 3 1/2 years for two/144 000 witnesses and 3 1/2 years for God's wrath)
Jer_30:7 Alas! for that DAY is great, so that NONE IS LIKE IT (i.e., it is one day, Jesus' Long Day): it is even the time of Jacob's trouble; but he shall be saved out of it."
Joshua's Long Day was a type of Jesus' Long Day.
Jos 10:11-13 says, "And it came to pass, as they fled from before Israel, and were in the going down to Bethhoron, that the LORD cast down great stones from heaven upon them unto Azekah, and they died: they were more which died with hailstones than they whom the children of Israel slew with the sword. 12 Then spake Joshua to the LORD in the day when the LORD delivered up the Amorites before the children of Israel, and he said in the sight of Israel, Sun, stand thou still upon Gibeon; and thou, Moon, in the valley of Ajalon. 13 And the sun stood still, and the moon stayed, until the people had avenged themselves upon their enemies. Is not this written in the book of Jasher? So the sun stood still in the midst of heaven, and hasted not to go down about a whole day."
It will be a long day because the asteroid Wormwood will impact Earth turning it upside down.
Isa_24:1 says, "Behold, the LORD maketh the earth empty, and maketh it waste, and turneth it upside down, and scattereth abroad the inhabitants thereof."
After the asteroid Wormwood hits Earth on the Day of God's Wrath, there will be seven months to the Second Advent.
Eze 39:11-13 says, "And it shall come to pass in that day, that I will give unto Gog a place there of graves in Israel, the valley of the passengers on the east of the sea: and it shall stop the noses of the passengers: and there shall they bury Gog and all his multitude: and they shall call it The valley of Hamongog. 12 And SEVEN MONTHS shall the house of Israel be burying of them, that they may cleanse the land. 13 Yea, all the people of the land shall bury them; and it shall be to them a renown the day that I shall be glorified, saith the Lord GOD."
For there to be 7 months between the Day of God's Wrath on Tishri 1 and the Second Advent on the following Nisan 1, that year has to be a leap year. 5776 is a leap year. It has the added month, Adar II.
5775 is a Sabbatic Year. It divides by 7 equally.
1st of Adar II, 5776 = Fri, 11 March 2016, so 5776 is a leap year.
The coming Jubilee Year should be announced Tishri 10, 5776.
The Jubilee Year should start Nisan 1, 5776, Sat. April 9, 2016, day of the Second Advent, and end Nisan 1, 5777, March 28, 2017.
7 June 1967 = 28th of Iyyar, 5727 is when Israel took the rest of Jerusalem and the Temple Mount.
5727 + 50 years = 5777, the outside limit for the Jubilee.
5775 is a Sabbatic Year.
5776 is a leap year and a Jubilee year.
5777 is not a leap year.
5778 is not a leap year.
5779 is a leap year.
5780 is not a leap year.
5781 is not a leap year.
5782 is a leap year and a Sabbatic Year.
I think Jesus will return on the first day of a Jubilee Year in which the Israelites will be returned to their inherited possession in the land.
Dan 12:12,13 says, "Blessed is he that waiteth, and cometh to the thousand three hundred and five and thirty days. 13 But go thou thy way till the end be: for thou shalt rest, and stand in thy lot (i.e., his plot of land in Israel) at the end of the days." Agape
I was there over New Years, 1998.....
While ON the Temple Mount.....my Paster leading the trip said (and I have NEVER forgotten it!!)....
"....there is room right here (right where we were standing) to build the 3rd Jewish Temple WITHOUT needing to tear down the mosque."
And he said....
"I do NOT see anything on God's Timetable that must yet happen, before Jesus Christ returns......" and the pastor was PRE-Trib.
THIS PAST WEEKEND.......I stumbled over the Left Behind Movie #1.....
And in that Movie, there is a drawing of the 3rd Temple sitting RIGHT BESIDE the mosque on the Temple Mount....right where we were standing.....
TICK TOCK..... YFIC, Randy
PS.....I NEVER COULD HAVE IMAGINED how engrossed I would become over the next 14 years, with End Times Bible Prophecy. !!
and...PS......wouldn't it be GREAT IF the Prez decided to visit the Temple Mount?
THEN, he and I would have been at TWO of the same places....
1) The Temple Mount.....and, (ON THE OTHER SIDE OF the Theological map....)
2) A Place called "Hell's Burgers".....a burger joint in Washington, where I saw him there on the news with Russian Prez Medvedev, and my daughter took me there on a trip a few years ago.
SMALL WORLD!! lol.....
After much study, I am convinced that the Temple was between the Dome of the Rock and the Al Aqsa Mosque. Go to my website: http://prophecycorner.theforeverfamily.com/procon1690.html
Tuvia Sagiv's diagram is posted, and I have given details of the aqueduct that shows us where the Temple was located. I will enclose a picture of the aqueduct with this. Agape
What timetable do you like this Spring? I'm looking hard at March 21-24th due to Easter and resurrection, but because of you I also like Ascension Sunday. What are your best guesses?
Would you please pray for relief of my horrible pain and my family Marilyn? Thanks, may our Lord Jesus continue to bless you! Agape, Mike Curtiss
Yes, I will pray for you and your family.
For the Rapture, I like May 5, 2013. It is both the Eastern Orthodox Easter SUNDAY and Iyar 25, Ascension Day. I checked up to 2018, and there is only one time that Iyar 25, Ascension Day, happens to fall on the Eastern Orthodox Easter. That is this year.
It seems that the Lord is choosing for Easter to be figured on the Julian Calendar that was used in 30 AD. The Eastern Orthodox use the old Julian Calendar. One year, someone changed the date for the Eastern Orthodox Easter and the Holy Fire failed to appear on Holy Saturday, the day before Easter. The next year, they went back to using the Julian Calendar and the Holy Fire has not failed since. I could be wrong, but it seems like the Lord is using the Holy Fire to lead us to the true date of the Rapture.
THE ATTEMPT TO CHANGE THE CALENDAR USED TO FIGURE EASTER
"In 1969-1970, the Orthodox patriarch of Jerusalem Benedict introduced the REVISED JULIAN CALENDAR prompted by the Geneva-based World Council of Churches, which changed the calculation of the date of the event. That same year, THE HOLY FIRE DID NOT APPEAR at the Holy Sepulchre. The original ecclesiastical chronology (the Eastern Orthodox Church calendar) with the original calculation of the date was immediately restored, and the Holy Fire recommenced appearing the following year and thereafter." (emphasis mine)
"9. Theoharis Kekis. "Orthodox Church Calendar". Cyprus Action Network of America. p. 3.
"In the Bulgarian Orthodox Church the calendar reform happened unexpectedly in 1968. In 1969-70 the Masonic World Council of "Churches" pressured the Jerusalem Patriarchate to introduce the "New Julian" calendar. That same year, the Holy Fire did not appear at the Holy Sepulchre, after which the Old Calendar was promptly restored, and the Holy Fire once again appeared the following year and thereafter."
10. Hieromonk Cassian (1998). "A Scientific Examination of the Orthodox Church Calendar, Chapter 9: Liturgical Havoc Wreaked By the "New Julian" Calendar". holyfire.org."
"The rite of the Holy Fire dates back as far as the fourth century, when Saint Helen the Equal-to-the-Apostles (327), the mother of Saint Constantine the Great, built the Church of the Holy Resurrection in Jerusalem. This Divine Service, the pattern for the annual celebration of the Resurrection of Christ throughout the Orthodox Church, involves a supernatural manifestation which occurs only on the Orthodox Feast of Pascha. Emperor John VI Kanta- kouzenos (ca. 1295-1383) described it in his time as follows: "In Jerusalem each year during Paschaltide, a miracle occurs in the Tomb of Christ. ...At the hour that the Christians are gathered there reciting hymns to the Resurrection of Christ, a light from Heaven comes down and lights three lamps found in the Tomb of Christ" ( J.-P. Migne, Patrologia Graeca, Vol. CLIV, col. 517).
"The greatest ongoing miracle connected with the Church Calendar is the annual appearance of the Holy Fire in the Church of the Holy Sepulchre in Jerusalem. This supernatural phenomenon only occurs on the Eve of Orthodox Pascha as calculated according to the Church Calendar.
"...recently (1969-70), under pressure from the Geneva-based World Council of Churches, the Jerusalem Patriarchate had introduced the 'New Julian' Calendar (as had the Bulgarian, Macedonian, and other Patriarchates, since there was overwhelming pressure at the time to introduce the New Calendar). That same year, on Great Saturday, when from time immemorial the Holy Fire descends on the Lord's Sepulchre, this year the Fire did not appear. Shocked, Patriarch Benedict of Jerusalem commanded that the Old Calendar, which had been in use until then, be restored immediately in the jurisdiction of his Patriarchate. The next year, the Holy Fire once again descended on the Lord's Sepulchre on Great Saturday; the same occurs even until the present.
"This is an irrefutable confirmation of the True Faith. And today, when Orthodox celebrate Pascha at that very time that the meaning of the First and eternal Eighth Day is being revealed, when they commemorate the Passion, Descent into Hell, and Resurrection of Christ, heeding the words of the Lord, "This do in remembrance of Me," 147 and celebrate Pascha on the Sunday after the first full moon of the vernal equinox, then the Lord grants the manifestation of the Grace-giving Fire at the Sepulchre of the Lord."
"Eastern Christianity bases its calculations on the Julian calendar whose 21 March corresponds, during the 21st century, to 3 April in the Gregorian calendar, in which the celebration of Easter therefore varies between 4 April and 8 May....
2013 date 5 May (Eastern)"
Dan 12:10 says, "Many shall be purified, and made white, and tried; but the wicked shall do wickedly: and none of the wicked shall understand; but the wise shall understand." I want to be one of the wise who will understand. It keeps me studying.
SUNDAY FOLLOWING THE HOLY FIRE ON THE EVE OF THE EASTERN ORTHODOX EASTER
Rev 1:9-11 says, "I John, who also am your brother, and companion IN TRIBULATION, and in the kingdom and patience of Jesus Christ, was in the isle that is called Patmos, for the word of God, and for the testimony of Jesus Christ. 10 I was (lit., became) in the Spirit on the Lord's day (i.e., SUNDAY), and heard behind me a great voice, as of a trumpet, 11 Saying, I am Alpha and Omega, the first and the last".
At the present time, it seems to me that the First-Trump Rapture will be on SUNDAY, the Lord's Day, May 5, 2013, and the Last-Trump Rapture will be on Monday, Sept. 14, 2015, the Feast of Trumpets, the great and terrible Day of the Lord, which is also the Day of God's Wrath.
Job 11:5,6 says, "But oh that God would speak, and open his lips against thee; 6 And that he would shew thee the secrets of wisdom, that they are double to that which is!"
Ecc 1:9 says, "The thing that hath been, it is that which shall be; and that which is done is that which shall be done: and there is no new thing under the sun."
It seems that Jesus showed us when the Rapture would take place when he ascended on Iyar 25, Omer 40.
Acts 1:10,11 says, "And while they looked stedfastly toward heaven as he went up (poreuomai, DEPART, GO UP), behold, two men (i.e., probably Elijah and Moses) stood by them in white apparel; Ye men of Galilee, why stand ye gazing up into heaven? this same JESUS, WHICH IS TAKEN UP FROM YOU INTO HEAVEN, SHALL SO COME IN LIKE MANNER as ye have seen him go into heaven."
Mat 17:1-3 says, "And AFTER six days (i.e., 7 days after the Resurrection would be SUNDAY) Jesus taketh Peter, James, and John his brother, and bringeth them up into an high mountain apart, 2 And was transfigured (metamorphoo, transformed, changed) before them: and his face did shine as the sun, and his raiment was white as the light. 3 And, behold, there appeared unto them Moses and Elias talking with him."
If he will come in like manner, Jesus could come for us on a Sunday Ascension Day. When we see Jesus, he probably will be transfigured. Elijah and Moses may come to Earth as we go to Heaven.
May 5, 2013 is not only on Sunday, it is the only Ascension Day to fall on the Eastern Orthodox Easter between May 5, 2013 and May 10, 2018. This could be our last chance.
This time of year fits Song of Solomon too.
Son 2:10-15 says, "My beloved spake, and said unto me, Rise up, my love, my fair one, and come away. 11 For, lo, the winter is past, the rain is over and gone; 12 The flowers appear on the earth; the time of the singing of birds is come, and the voice of the turtle (tor tor, turtledove) is heard in our land; 13 The fig tree putteth forth her green figs, and the vines with the tender grape give a good smell. Arise, my love, my fair one, and come away. 14 O my dove, that art in the clefts of the rock, in the secret places (places is not in the original, this is the secret of the stairs, like Jacob's Ladder that reached to Heaven) of the stairs, let me see thy countenance, let me hear thy voice; for sweet is thy voice, and thy countenance is comely. 15 Take us the foxes, the little foxes, that spoil the vines: for our vines have tender grapes."
Son 6:2,3 says, "My beloved is gone down into his garden, to the beds of spices, to feed in the gardens, and to gather lilies. 3 I am my beloved's, and my beloved is mine: he feedeth among the lilies." The native lily of Israel blooms in May and June.
Spring in Hebrew is AVIV. It means rebirth. It looks like we will be born into Heaven this spring.
The First-Trump Rapture in the spring fits Isa 18:3-6 too.
Isa 18:3-6 says, "All ye inhabitants of the world, and dwellers on the earth, see ye, when he lifteth up an ensign (i.e., the UN flag) on the mountains (kingdoms, countries); and when he bloweth a TRUMPET, hear ye. 4 For so the LORD said unto me, I will take my rest, and I will consider (nabat, look intently at with pleasure) in my dwelling place like a clear heat upon herbs, and like a cloud of dew in the heat of harvest. 5 For afore the harvest, when the bud is perfect, and the sour grape is ripening in the flower, he shall both cut off the sprigs with pruning hooks, and take away (sur sur, DEPART, TAKE AWAY) and cut down the branches. 6 They shall be left together unto the fowls of the mountains, and to the beasts of the earth: and the fowls shall SUMMER upon them, and all the beasts of the earth shall winter upon them."
Our flight (i.e., the First-Trump Rapture) will not be in the winter or on Saturday.
Mat 24:20-22 says, "But pray ye that your flight be not in the winter, neither on the sabbath day: 21 For then shall be great tribulation, such as was not since the beginning of the world to this time, no, nor ever shall be. 22 And except those days should be shortened, there should no flesh be saved: but for the elect's sake those days shall be shortened."
This elect will be caught up in the Last-Trump Rapture on the Day of the Lord, the Day of God's Wrath (Rev 6:17; 7:14), probably Mon. Sept. 14, 2015, the Feast of Trumpets. That seems to be the day Satan's asteroid Wormwood will impact Earth and obliterate Babylon. A mountain-sized piece will probably split off at the Roche Limit, 11,000 miles out, and hit the NE Mediterranean Sea. The explosion and tsunami will kill all of Gog's army but 1/6th that will flee to Siberia.
Eze 39:1-4 says, "Therefore, thou son of man, prophesy against Gog, and say, Thus saith the Lord GOD; Behold, I am against thee, O Gog, the chief prince of Meshech and Tubal: 2 And I will turn thee back, and leave but the sixth part of thee, and will cause thee to come up from the north parts, and will bring thee upon the mountains of Israel: 3 And I will smite thy bow out of thy left hand, and will cause thine arrows to fall out of thy right hand. 4 Thou shalt fall upon the mountains of Israel, thou, and all thy bands, and the people that is with thee."
Eze 39:12,13 says, "And seven months shall the house of Israel be burying of them, that they may cleanse the land. 13 Yea, all the people of the land shall bury them; and it shall be to them a renown the day that I shall be glorified, saith the Lord GOD." That will be the day of the Second Advent, probably Saturday, April 9, 2016, Nisan 1, 5776. That will be the first day of the Sacred, Regnal and Jubilee years. The Jubilee has to follow a Sabbatic Year, and 5775 is Sabbatic. Agape
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