Pro and Con 1714

Posted 5-5-13


INCOMING EMAIL, RE: Urgent Prayer Request, Praise the Lord Jesus Christ

I read with great interest about your visit with Ed. Wow, is this the first time you have disclosed a meeting up with Ed.

Has he been back, or was this his only appearance?

Did he give you any idea when you two might be re-united?

Does the Lord spend time with Ed?

Would you be willing to keep pray for me and my family? Things have certainly been getting better, so I must have you and the Lord Jesus to thank for (his son's) new and welcome improvement.

Finally, I found a PM & R physician, who has enough insight into chronic pain and PTSD to realize how mightily that I've been hurting. To look at my face or speak with me; few people would think I've got 9/10 burning pain in my Right Foot. It robs me of sleep, intimacy and joy. ( if that were possible )

Beginning May 14th, I'm spending 21 days at a rehabilitation facility for people with chronic pain. It runs from 8AM to 4:30PM M-F and includes every aspect of treating chronic pain. I couldn't have located this doctor, program and possibilities with- out Jesus.

Without Jesus, I would have gone stark raving mad long ago. I sure hope we are right about this Sunday. I hope we can meet together one day very soon. Would you ask the Father to include me in the firstfruit harvest, please? Thank you


I am praying for you and your family. Hope your pain therapy helps.

(Readers. Please join me in praying for Mike and his family.)

I am surprised that you didn't know that Ed visited me. I have told it several times, even on Five Doves. I had just propped myself up on the bed as if watching TV, but hadn't turned it on yet, when in strode a young looking Ed at a good clip with an ear to ear grin on his face. I told him I thought I would be with him on Ascension Day, and asked him to climb into the bed with me so I could give him a hug. He didn’t, which was not normal for him. He just came up by my head and stood there between the dresser and bed. I got the message quick. No touch (like Jesus told Mary not to touch him right after the Resurrection). So I started asking him those questions as fast as I could get them out of my mouth. They flew into my brain fast too. He walked through the wall before I could ask him anything else. I haven’t seen him since. I wish I had asked him when the Rapture would be, but it went so fast I didn't get to ask him that.

I don't know anything else, but I know he is ok, awake and visiting both his and my families, so they all are awake. Therefore "sleep in Jesus" is only from our perspective here on Earth. I know that our love for each other is as strong as ever, and am so glad we can be together forever. I couldn't be happy otherwise. It is hard to be separated now, but when compared with eternity, this will seem like a short time.

I am happy how my life is turning out. I said, "Yes" to Jesus, and "Yes" to Ed when he asked me to marry him on the 4th day we got together. Now I get to be with both of them forever. What more could I ask? That's the best I can think of.

I think of 1Co_15:55. It says, "O death, where is thy sting? O grave, where is thy victory?"

Also, Mat_19:6. It says, "Wherefore they are no more twain, but one flesh. What therefore God hath joined together, let not man put asunder."

Long ago, I found Isa 6:8. It says, "I heard the voice of the Lord, saying, Whom shall I send, and who will go for us? Then said I, Here am I; send me."

I echoed, "Here am I; send me" and have been studying the Bible as hard as I can go ever since. I heard the voice of the Lord too. He woke me up in the middle of the night and said, "Be still, and know that I am God." I was still until daylight, but nothing else happened that I know of. Psa_46:10 says, "Be still, and know that I am God: I will be exalted among the heathen, I will be exalted in the earth." That, and everything else in the Bible's original edition is 100% true. If it says something, I believe it, 100%. Everything promised will come to pass, good or bad.

1Th 4:13-18 will come to pass as stated. It says, "But I would not have you to be ignorant, brethren, concerning them which are asleep, that ye sorrow not, even as others which have no hope. 14 For if we believe that Jesus died and rose again, even so them also which sleep in Jesus will God bring with him. 15 For this we say unto you by the word of the Lord, that we which are alive and remain unto the coming of the Lord shall not prevent them which are asleep. 16 For the Lord himself shall descend from heaven with a shout, with the voice of the archangel, and with the trump of God: and the dead in Christ shall rise first: 17 Then we which are alive and remain shall be caught up together with them in the clouds, to meet the Lord in the air: and so shall we ever be with the Lord. 18 Wherefore comfort one another with these words." Agape

My questions and Ed's answers:

"Are you 30 or 33? He said, "33."
"Can we be together forever? He said, "Yes."
"Are there female angels in Heaven? He said, "Yes."
"Have you gotten with your family? He said, "Yes."
"Have you gotten with my family? He said, "Yes."
"Do you have a piano? He said, "Yes" and walked through the wall.


By Marilyn Agee

"The oldest known Sphinx was found near Gobekli Tepe at another site, Nevali Cori, or possibly 120 miles to the east at Kortik Tepe, Turkey, and was dated to 9,500 BC." (Birch, N., 7000 Years Older Than Stonehenge: The Site that Stunned Archaeologists, The Guardian, April 2008)

The year 9,500 BC was before Adam's time. He was created in 4043 BC. Therefore, to me, that Sphinx was made by the angels that kept not their first estate.

Jud_1:6 says, "And the angels which kept not their first estate, but left their own habitation, he hath reserved in everlasting chains under darkness unto the judgment of the great day."

Their habitation was the planet Rahab that split apart and formed our Asteroid Belt.

Isa 51:9 says, "Awake, awake, put on strength, O arm of the LORD; awake, as in the ancient days, in the generations of old. Art thou not it that hath cut (chatsab, split) Rahab, and wounded the dragon?" (Satan).

Since the face on the oldest Sphinx is that of a woman, the one in Egypt probably was of a woman. See picture of the oldest one at:

The Sphinx in Egypt, a relic from a lost civilization, is probably a lot older than many think, older than the creation of Adam. The Pyramid of Giza has thick salt deposits inside the Queen's chamber from Noah's flood, so it is older than that, and maybe from the time the glaciers of the last ice age melted. The Sphinx is officially dated as Fourth Dynasty (2575 - 2150 bce). I don't think there is the slightest chance that those years are right.

"Water marks were found on the sides of the Great Pyramid at a level 400 feet higher than the Nile river is today, and deposits of sea salt inside the Queen's chamber corroborate the theory that it and the Sphinx must have been built around the time of the melting of the last great Ice Age, maybe more like 10,000 years ago."

"Author, lecturer and guide, John Anthony West delivered a seismic shock to archaeology in the early 1990's when he and Boston University geologist Robert Schoch revealed that the Great Sphinx of Giza, Egypt, showed evidence of rainfall erosion. Such erosion could only mean that the Sphinx was carved during or before the rains that marked the transition of northern Africa from the last Ice Age to the present interglacial epoch, a transition that occurred in the millennia from 10,000 to 5000 BC." (

To my knowledge, they didn't take into consideration Noah's Flood.

"To create "severe water erosion" on the Sphinx, the Sahara Desert must at one time NOT have been a desert. Readily available climatological data for Ancient Egypt make it abundantly clear that the Sahara has been in place from [7 to 10,000 years]...since the end of the last Ice Age. Meaning that both the carving of the Sphinx and its "severe water erosion" had to have taken place sometime before...!" (

By Robert M. Schoch, Ph.D., 27 January 2011

"12,000 Years Old?
"Could Paradigm-Busting Evidence from Turkey Take the Sphinx-Age Debate to a Brand New Level?

I think both of these Sphinx figures were made by the angels that kept not their first estate. The one in Egypt shows vertical erosion from a huge downpour of rain. This type of erosion is impossible in Egypt's climate today. I think that enormous amount of water hit Earth from space, coming originally from Satan's planet Rahab. The water was higher than all the mountains. Forty days of our kind of rain couldn't do that. I lived through 40 days of rain here in California in 1968. There is no way the mountains could have been covered in 40 days. There are two times of deluge to consider, after the last Ice Age and at the time of Noah's Flood.

Gen 7:10-20 says, "And it came to pass after seven days, that the waters of the flood were upon the earth. 11 In the six hundredth year of Noah's life, in the second month, the seventeenth day of the month, the same day were all the fountains of the great deep broken up, and THE WINDOWS OF HEAVEN WERE OPENED. 12 And the rain was upon the earth forty days and forty nights. 13 In the selfsame day entered Noah, and Shem, and Ham, and Japheth, the sons of Noah, and Noah's wife, and the three wives of his sons with them, into the ark; 14 They, and every beast after his kind, and all the cattle after their kind, and every creeping thing that creepeth upon the earth after his kind, and every fowl after his kind, every bird of every sort. 15 And they went in unto Noah into the ark, two and two of all flesh, wherein is the breath of life. 16 And they that went in, went in male and female of all flesh, as God had commanded him: and the LORD shut him in. 17 And the flood was forty days upon the earth; and the waters increased, and bare up the ark, and it was lift up above the earth. 18 And the waters prevailed, and were increased greatly upon the earth; and the ark went upon the face of the waters. 19 And the waters prevailed exceedingly upon the earth; and all the high hills, that were under the whole heaven, were covered. 20 Fifteen cubits upward did the waters prevail; and the mountains were covered."

Jude 1:6,7 says, "And the angels which kept not their first estate (arche, first estate, principality, rule), but left their own habitation (oiketerion, habitation, residence, i.e., the planet Rahab, now split into pieces, and has become our Asteroid Belt), he hath reserved in everlasting chains under darkness unto the judgment of the great day (i.e., the Day of the Lord, the Day of God's wrath, probably the Feast of Trumpets, Sept. 14, 2015). 7 Even as Sodom and Gomorrha, and the cities about them in like manner, giving themselves over to fornication, and going after strange flesh, are set forth for an example, suffering the vengeance of eternal fire."

Sodom and Gomorrha were turned into ashes by an asteroid impact that split the Earth and formed the Great Rift Valley. It stretches from Syria to Lake Nyassa in Africa. Babylon will be destroyed by an asteroid impact too. The asteroid Wormwood that Satan lives on now will hit Babylon. It may form the Lake of fire too.

Rev 8:5-13 says, "And the angel took the censer, and filled it with fire of the altar, and cast it into the earth: and there were voices, and thunderings, and lightnings, and an earthquake. 6 And the seven angels which had the seven trumpets prepared themselves to sound.7 The first angel sounded, and there followed hail and fire mingled with blood, and they were cast upon the earth: and the third part of trees was burnt up, and all green grass was burnt up. 8 And the second angel sounded, and as it were a great mountain burning with fire was cast into the sea (i.e., the Mediterranean): and the third part of the sea became blood; 9 And the third part of the creatures which were in the sea, and had life, died; and the third part of the ships were destroyed. 10 And the third angel sounded, and THERE FELL A GREAT STAR FROM HEAVEN, burning as it were a lamp, and it fell upon the third part of the rivers, and upon the fountains of waters; 11 And THE NAME OF THE STAR IS CALLED WORMWOOD (meaning bitter): and the third part of the waters became wormwood; and many men died of the waters, because they were made bitter. 12 And the fourth angel sounded, and the third part of the sun was smitten, and the third part of the moon, and the third part of the stars; so as the third part of them was darkened, and the day shone not for a third part of it, and the night likewise. 13 And I beheld, and heard an angel flying through the midst of heaven, saying with a loud voice, Woe, woe, woe, to the inhabiters of the earth by reason of the other voices of the trumpet of the three angels, which are yet to sound!"

Pro 5:3,4 says, " For the lips of a strange woman drop as an honeycomb, and her mouth is smoother than oil: 4 But her end is bitter as wormwood, sharp as a twoedged sword."

Jer_9:15 Therefore thus saith the LORD of hosts, the God of Israel; Behold, I will feed them, even this people, with wormwood, and give them water of gall to drink."

Amo_5:7,8 says, "Ye who turn judgment to wormwood, and leave off righteousness in the earth, 8 Seek him that maketh the seven stars and Orion, and turneth the shadow of death into the morning, and maketh the day dark with night: that calleth for the waters of the sea, and poureth them out upon the face of the earth (i.e., a tsunami): The LORD is his name".

Rev 18:21 And a mighty angel took up a stone like a great millstone, and cast it into the sea, saying, Thus with violence shall that great city Babylon be thrown down, and shall be found no more at all."

"The debate which ensued has continued ever since, with the mainstream Egyptological establishment-despite acceptance by most geologists-hotly contesting the Sphinx's greater antiquity. At stake, after all, is one of the most cherished notions of the current scientific paradigm, the idea that present civilization was born about 5,000 years ago and before that was only primitive darkness."...

To me, angels lived on Earth before Adam was created.

"In the years since, Schoch and West have produced much more evidence from Egypt to support their arguments, but mainstream archaeology has persisted that no civilization capable of building the Sphinx was operating 7,000 years ago, let alone 12,000 years ago. Now, however, recent discoveries in Turkey could upset some of the most basic premises in the conventional timeline for the rise of civilization-providing clear artifactual testimony of ancient advancement 12,000 years ago. Here now, in an Atlantis Rising exclusive, Robert Schoch looks once again at the case for a much older Great Sphinx and the new corroboration to be found in the ruins recently unearthed at Gobekli Tepe."

"...the Great Sphinx in Egypt goes back thousands of years earlier than the traditional Egyptological date of circa 2500 BC. For the better part of two decades I have advocated my "conservative" date of circa 7000 BC to 5000 BC, although not absolutely excluding the possibility that the Sphinx could be even older."

I am smiling, because he is right. The Sphinx was here before Adam was created. It is funny, because so many that were so sure the Sphinx was carved after Adam was created are proved wrong. So many try to figure things out without the Bible. Not me, if the Bible says it, I believe it happened that way. God is in complete control.

"The Sphinx, if indeed it dated so far back, appeared alone, isolated, with no solid context so very long ago. But now this has all changed. Enter evidence from other quarters that high culture dates back at least 12,000 years.

"Gobekli Tepe

"Located in modern Turkey, just north of the border with Syria, Gobekli Tepe (the name means hill with a belly or navel) has yielded dozens of carved limestone megaliths, many of which date back to the extraordinarily early period of 11,000 to 12,000 years ago. Klaus Schmidt (German Archaeological Institute) has been heading the excavation team since 1994, and there is no doubt as to the importance, authenticity, and dating (based on radiocarbon) of Gobekli Tepe. This is a discovery made by mainstream academics.

"Gobekli Tepe boggles the imagination. The date is incredibly early, even earlier than my "conservative" estimate for the date of the Great Sphinx. Gobekli Tepe dates back to the end of the last Ice Age."

Yes. The angels that left their own estate came to Earth soon after the last ice age.

"Gobekli Tepe has been hailed in some circles as figuratively, if not literally, the Biblical Garden of Eden. Like the fabled Eden, it lies between the northern portions of the Tigris and Euphrates Rivers. Although it is a bleak, barren, desert landscape now, 12,000 years ago Gobekli Tepe was an area of abundant plant and animal life, a hunter-gatherer's paradise."

I don't think it is the Garden of Eden. It was there before the Garden of Eden was planted for Adam and Eve. Snakes are carved on some of the stones. Satan had something to do with Gobekli Tepe. Also, the animals are not the same as our animals. They are similar, but not the same. Their heads seem too large and fierce to fit the rest of their bodies.

What buried Gobekli Tepe? Satan didn't. The angels that left their first estate didn't. Adam didn't.

You know what I think buried Gobekli Tepi? the asteroid impact that dug the Moon material out of the Pacific Basin. The continents didn't split apart until the days of Peleg. I think the Lord caused Gobekli Tepe to be covered up, because of its association with Satan and the worship of a Sun god.

Eze 28:12-18 says, "Son of man, take up a lamentation upon the king of Tyrus (meaning rock), and say unto him (i.e., Satan), Thus saith the Lord GOD; Thou sealest up the sum, full of wisdom, and perfect in beauty. 13 Thou hast been in Eden the garden of God; every precious stone was thy covering, the sardius (Mercury), topaz (Venus), and the diamond (Earth), the beryl (Mars), the onyx (Rahab), and the jasper (Jupiter), the sapphire (Saturn), the emerald (Uranus), and the carbuncle (Neptune), and gold (Pluto): the workmanship of thy tabrets and of thy pipes was prepared in thee in the day that thou wast created. 14 Thou art the anointed cherub that covereth; and I have set thee so: thou wast upon the holy mountain of God (i.e., on Saturn, sapphire means dear to the planet Saturn, from the Sanskrit Sani, Saturn, and priya, dear); thou hast walked up and down in the midst of the stones of fire (on Rahab). 15 Thou wast perfect in thy ways from the day that thou wast created, till iniquity was found in thee. 16 By the multitude of thy merchandise they have filled the midst of thee with violence, and thou hast sinned: therefore I will cast thee as profane out of the mountain of God (Saturn): and I will destroy thee, O covering cherub, from the midst (on Rahab) of the stones of fire (that look like lamps in the night sky). 17 Thine heart was lifted up because of thy beauty, thou hast corrupted thy wisdom by reason of thy brightness: I will cast thee to the ground, I will lay thee before kings, that they may behold thee. 18 Thou hast defiled thy sanctuaries (Rahab, Wormwood and Babylon) by the multitude of thine iniquities, by the iniquity of thy traffick; therefore will I bring forth a fire from the midst of thee (i.e., Wormwood will impact the Earth), it shall devour thee, and I will bring thee to ashes upon the earth in the sight of all them that behold thee."

"Gobekli Tepe was built, used, and added to for a couple of thousand years....Finally, about 10,000 years ago, the entire complex was intentionally buried under tons of rock and earth."

"12,000 to 10,000 years ago the last glacial period came to an end, sea levels were rising, climates were fluctuating, and some believe the poles were shifting and that comets were bombarding our planet. In the wake of calamity, did the people of Gobekli Tepe first attempt to fortify their structures and then realizing that it was futile, bury them and flee? Did they hope to return again to uncover their monuments?"

No. Just burying the complex was an enormous task. I don't think they would have attempted it. I think the Lord did that.

"Nevali Cori is a site only a few miles away, and it dates to a slightly later period than Gobekli Tepe. The site is now flooded and inaccessible, but T-shaped pillars and carvings (though smaller than at Gobekli Tepe) were found there.

APN Welcomes Softening of Arab League's Peace Initiative, May-01-2013

While the original text of the API offered Israel peace and normal relations with the Arab and Muslim world in exchange for a "complete withdrawal" from territories captured in 1967, the League of Arab Nations on Monday made clear that it would not insist on full adherence to the 1967 lines.... Israeli government officials reacted positively to the new language.


Two large rocks will hit Earth that day. The mountain-sized rock will hit the NE Mediterranean Sea. Satan's asteroid Wormwood will obliterate Babylon and probably dig the Lake of Fire.

Hebrews 4:2 2For the word of God is living and powerful, and sharper than any two-edged sword, piercing even to the division of soul and spirit, and of joints and marrow, and is a discerner of the thoughts and intents of the heart. People have always been offended every time truth is presented.

Why do all of your teachings point to only physical things?

Why do you quote only scripture? Anyone can quote scripture or anyone can read what the Word of God says.

Why do your teachings never point to Spiritual things?

Who is Babylon?

Peter received revelation knowledge from the Father that Yahshua was the Son of God.

Yahshua said upon this rock I will build My Church. Every Revelation we receive from the Father is Spirit and will always be truth.

Therefore worshiping the Lord in Spirit and Truth comes only by receiving Revelation knowledge from the Father.

Receiving Revelation knowledge from the Father is the rock in which Christ is building His Church. It is the same doctrine Christ was teaching Peter.

Any person that does not receive Revelation knowledge from the Father will always point to only physical things.

Any person that does not receive Revelation knowledge from the Father can ONLY quote scripture, or read the scripture.

Therefore if a person is only quoting the scripture and using it to point to the natural and physical things, they have a spirit to babble.

So Babylon is made up of people that can only read and quote the scripture and they use in their natural ability to point to the physical things.

These people are always offended when the truth by the Spirit is presented.

Did you know that out of all who confess Christ as Lord only one-third will be saved Zechariah 13:8-9?

The other two-thirds will be cut off from the Lord to die.


> > Why do you quote only scripture? Anyone can quote scripture or anyone can read what the Word of God says.

They can, but do they do it? Some do and some don't.

I quote other things when it is appropriate. See my last Pro and Cons. I do a lot of research.

> > Why do your teachings never point to Spiritual things?

Things in the Bible are spiritual things. Those things in the original editions are 100% true. Things that people dream might be true, or they might be false. We should compare them with the Bible. Only if they agree should we hang our hopes on them.

Joh_6:63 says, "It is the spirit that quickeneth; the flesh profiteth nothing: the words that I speak unto you, they are spirit, and they are life."

Heb_4:12 says, "For the word of God is quick, and powerful, and sharper than any twoedged sword, piercing even to the dividing asunder of soul and spirit, and of the joints and marrow, and is a discerner of the thoughts and intents of the heart."

Going by dreams is risky business. Some are true and some are not. Many times, we have to compare them with scripture to tell the difference.

I have had two I can trust. In one, I saw my husband's grandmother in Heaven at a stove cooking. In the kitchen were lots of children. That was so natural to her. She loved cooking and children. She raised my husband, his brother and a cousin while his mother worked. His grandmother was such a sweet person, everyone loved her. I give her a lot of credit for my husband's sweet disposition. She was a strong Christian too. I know she is in Heaven.

In my other dream, Ed and I were in Heaven, walking up to the huge doorway of a warehouse type building with aluminum siding. A boy ran up and hugged me and then got lost in the crowd. I brought him to the Lord by writing him Pen Pal letters with Bible studies in them when he was in the army and stationed in Viet Nam. I got a letter that showed me he believed, then found out that he had stepped on a mine and was killed. He barely made it. Whew!

Ed and went in and were seated at one of the long tables covered with white tablecloths. We were served food. Looking for salt, I turned around and saw that boy seated at a table across the aisle and a couple of rows back. That is all. I figured I had that dream to reassure me that the kid was really in Heaven.

We must be alert to identify false dreams. Jer_23:32 says, "Behold, I am against them that prophesy false dreams, saith the LORD, and do tell them, and cause my people to err by their lies, and by their lightness; yet I sent them not, nor commanded them: therefore they shall not profit this people at all, saith the LORD."

> > Who is Babylon?

The city of seven hills. Vatican Hill is not in Rome. It is just outside the city limits.

However, the endtime harlot church will move its headquarters to literal Babylon near the Euphrates River.

Rev 17:18 says, "And the woman which thou sawest is that great city, which reigneth over the kings of the earth."

Rev 17:3 says, "So he carried me away in the spirit into the wilderness (eremos, desert, i.e., Babylon near the Euphrates River): and I saw a woman sit upon a scarlet coloured beast, full of names of blasphemy, having seven heads and ten horns."

Rev 17:10 says, "And there are seven kings: five are fallen (Babel, Babylon II, Media-Persia, Holy Roman Empire), and one is (Ecclesiastical Holy Roman Empire), and the other (Babylon III) is not yet come; and when he (i.e., the False Prophet) cometh, he must continue a short space" (i.e., the shortened Great Tribulation).

Estimated time makes us think the Tribulation will be 1260 days plus 1260 days. However, the last half of the Tribulation is to be shortened to 1040 days.

Dan 8:13,14 says, "Then I heard one saint speaking, and another saint said unto that certain saint which spake, How long shall be the vision concerning the daily sacrifice, and the transgression of desolation, to give both the sanctuary and the host to be trodden under foot? 14 And he said unto me, Unto two thousand and three hundred days; then shall the sanctuary be cleansed."

I think Jesus' Second Advent will be Nisan 1, 5776, Sat. April 9, 2016 on the anniversary of his resurrection in 30 AD. That will be the first day of the Jubilee, Regnal and Sacred years. A Jubilee has to be preceded by a Sabbatical Year. 5775 is Sabbatical. For there to be 7 months between the Day of God's Wrath and the first day of the Jubilee year, that year 5776 has to be a leap year, and it is. So more than one thing locks in that day.

Eze 45:18 says, "Thus saith the Lord GOD; In the first month, in the first day of the month, thou shalt take a young bullock without blemish, and cleanse the sanctuary".

Nisan 1, 5776 - 2300 days is Dec. 22, 2009, for the beginning of the Tribulation.

Dec. 22, 2009 plus 1260 days is June 4, 2013, Mid-Trib. I am hoping we get out of here tomorrow. God was in the burning bush and in fire above the Tabernacle. Maybe he will come in the Holy Fire shortly after 2 PM today at the Church of the Holy Sepulchre in Jerusalem. Hebrew time, the Eastern Orthodox Easter will begin at 6 PM tonight, May 4.

If the Rapture is not May 5, it will be soon. It looks like we will be caught up to Heaven, Satan will accuse us, the Lord will vindicate us, then Satan and his fallen angels will be cast out of Heaven by Michael and his angels. It looks like Satan will be cast down Mid-Trib, because the Israelites that flee to Petra will be protected 1260 days.

That is the Great Tribulation that is to be shortened to 1040 days.

> > Peter received revelation knowledge from the Father that Yahshua was the Son of God.
> > Yahshua said upon this rock I will build My Church. Every Revelation we receive from the Father is Spirit and will always be truth.

Mat 16:15-19 says, "He saith unto them, But whom say ye that I am? 16 And Simon Peter answered and said, THOU ART THE CHRIST, THE SON OF THE LIVING GOD. 17 And Jesus answered and said unto him, Blessed art thou, Simon Barjona: for flesh and blood hath not revealed it unto thee, but my Father which is in heaven. 18 And I say also unto thee, That thou art Peter (PETROS, A PIECE OF ROCK), and upon this rock (PETRA, A MASS OF ROCK, i.e., his statement 'THOU ART THE CHRIST, THE SON OF THE LIVING GOD') I will build my church; and the gates of hell shall not prevail against it. 19 And I will give unto thee the keys of the kingdom of heaven: and whatsoever thou shalt bind on earth shall be bound in heaven: and whatsoever thou shalt loose on earth shall be loosed in heaven."

> > Therefore if a person is only quoting the scripture and using it to point to the natural and physical things, they have a spirit to babble.

We have to test that by the Bible. I searched for the word "babble". It does not appear in Scripture at all. I searched for "babbling". It appears once.

Pro 23:29,30 says, "Who hath woe? who hath sorrow? who hath contentions? who hath babbling? who hath wounds without cause? who hath redness of eyes? 30 They that tarry long at the wine; they that go to seek mixed wine."

Therefore, we shouldn't build a doctrine on your statement. If it were true, it would be in the Bible.

Babel means confusion in the Bible. The languages were confused at Babel. The building of the Tower of Babel was stopped. Nebuchadnezzer ruled Babylon II. The False Prophet will rule Babylon III.

What will happen at Babylon III?

Rev 16:17-21 says, "And the seventh angel poured out his vial into the air; and there came a great voice out of the temple of heaven, from the throne, saying, It is done. 18 And there were voices, and thunders, and lightnings; and there was a great earthquake, such as was not since men were upon the earth, so mighty an earthquake, and so great. 19 And the great city was divided into three parts, and the cities of the nations fell: and GREAT BABYLON CAME IN REMEMBRANCE BEFORE GOD, TO GIVE UNTO HER THE CUP OF THE WINE OF THE FIERCENESS OF HIS WRATH. 20 And every island fled away, and the mountains were not found. 21 And there fell upon men a great hail out of heaven, every stone about the weight of a talent: and men blasphemed God because of the plague of the hail; for the plague thereof was exceeding great."

Rev 18:1-4 says, "And after these things I saw another angel come down from heaven, having great power; and the earth was lightened with his glory. 2 And he cried mightily with a strong voice, saying, BABYLON the great is fallen, is fallen, and IS BECOME THE HABITATION OF DEVILS, AND THE HOLD OF EVERY FOUL SPIRIT, AND A CAGE OF EVERY UNCLEAN AND HATEFUL BIRD. 3 For all nations have drunk of the wine of the wrath of her fornication, and the kings of the earth have committed fornication (i.e., joined) with her, and the merchants of the earth are waxed rich through the abundance of her delicacies. 4 And I heard another voice from heaven, saying, COME OUT OF HER, MY PEOPLE, that ye be not partakers of her sins, and that ye receive not of her plagues."

What are her plagues?

Rev 18:21-23 says, "And a mighty angel took up a stone like a great millstone (i.e., the asteroid Wormwood that Satan lives on, Rev 8:11), and cast it into the sea, saying, Thus with violence shall that great city Babylon be thrown down, and shall be found no more at all. And the voice of harpers, and musicians, and of pipers, and trumpeters, shall be heard no more at all in thee; and no craftsman, of whatsoever craft he be, shall be found any more in thee; and the sound of a millstone shall be heard no more at all in thee; 23 And the light of a candle shall shine no more at all in thee; and the voice of the bridegroom and of the bride shall be heard no more at all in thee: for thy merchants were the great men of the earth; for BY THY SORCERIES WERE ALL NATIONS DECEIVED."

The impact earthquake will destroy Babylon and will probably form the Lake of Fire. Every wall will fall worldwide.

Eze 38:16-23 says, "And thou shalt come up against my people of Israel, as a cloud to cover the land; it shall be in the latter days, and I will bring thee against my land, that the heathen may know me, when I shall be sanctified in thee, O Gog, before their eyes. 17 Thus saith the Lord GOD; Art thou he of whom I have spoken in old time by my servants the prophets of Israel, which prophesied in those days many years that I would bring thee against them? 18 And it shall come to pass at the same time when Gog shall come against the land of Israel, saith the Lord GOD, that my fury shall come up in my face. 19 For in my jealousy and in the fire of my wrath have I spoken, Surely in that day there shall be a great shaking in the land of Israel; 20 So that the fishes of the sea, and the fowls of the heaven, and the beasts of the field, and all creeping things that creep upon the earth, and all the men that are upon the face of the earth, shall shake at my presence (paniym, face, they will see the Sign of the Son of Man in the sky), and the mountains shall be thrown down, and the steep places shall fall, and every wall shall fall to the ground. 21 And I will call for a sword against him throughout all my mountains, saith the Lord GOD: every man's sword shall be against his brother. 22 And I will plead against him with pestilence and with blood; and I will rain upon him, and upon his bands, and upon the many people that are with him, an overflowing rain, and great hailstones, fire, and brimstone. 23 Thus will I magnify myself, and sanctify myself; and I will be known in the eyes of many nations, and they shall know that I am the LORD."

Rev 16:17-21 says, "And the seventh angel poured out his vial into the air; and there came a great voice out of the temple of heaven, from the throne, saying, It is done. 18 And there were voices, and thunders, and lightnings; and there was a great earthquake, such as was not since men were upon the earth, so mighty an earthquake, and so great. 19 And the great city was divided into three parts, and THE CITIES OF THE NATIONS FELL: AND GREAT BABYLON CAME IN REMEMBRANCE BEFORE GOD, TO GIVE UNTO HER THE CUP OF THE WINE OF THE FIERCENESS OF HIS WRATH. 20 And every island fled away, and the mountains were not found. 21 And there fell upon men a great hail out of heaven".

There will be no place to flee to.

Jer_12:12 says, "the sword of the LORD shall devour from the one end of the land even to the other end of the land: no flesh shall have peace."

The sword of the LORD was placed in the sky in Gen 3:24.

It says, "So he drove out the man; and he placed at the east of the garden of Eden Cherubims, and a flaming sword which turned every way, to keep the way of the tree of life."

The Lord placed in the eastern sky cherubims, planets, and a flaming sword, Satan's asteroid Wormwood, to keep the way to the tree of life in Heaven. No evil will be permitted in Heaven. The Lord will rapture his believers, then the asteroid Wormwood will impact Babylon. The world will be turned upside down. It will cause Jesus' Long Day, of which Joshua's Long Day was a type.

Jos 10:9-14 says, "Joshua therefore came unto them suddenly, and went up from Gilgal all night. 10 And the LORD discomfited them before Israel, and slew them with a great slaughter at Gibeon, and chased them along the way that goeth up to Bethhoron, and smote them to Azekah, and unto Makkedah. 11 And it came to pass, as they fled from before Israel, and were in the going down to Bethhoron, that THE LORD CAST DOWN GREAT STONES FROM HEAVEN upon them unto Azekah (meaning dug over), and they died: they were more which died with hailstones than they whom the children of Israel slew with the sword. 12 Then spake Joshua to the LORD in the day when the LORD delivered up the Amorites before the children of Israel, and he said in the sight of Israel, Sun, stand thou still upon Gibeon; and thou, Moon, in the valley of Ajalon. 13 And the sun stood still, and the moon stayed, until the people had avenged themselves upon their enemies. Is not this written in the book of Jasher? So the sun stood still in the midst of heaven, and hasted not to go down about a whole day. 14 And there was no day like that before it or after it, that the LORD hearkened unto the voice of a man: for the LORD fought for Israel."

"Zec 13:8 is in the Old Testament, before Jesus was born. It says to the Israelites, "And it shall come to pass, that in all the land, saith the LORD, two parts therein shall be cut off and die; but the third shall be left therein. 9 And I will bring the third part through the fire, and will refine them as silver is refined, and will try them as gold is tried: they shall call on my name, and I will hear them: I will say, It is my people: and they shall say, The LORD is my God." Agape

The unbelieving will finally call upon the Lord’s name in that day.

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