Pro and Con 1717

Posted 5-12-13



Is May, 2013, the time of the Sudden Destruction and Rapture???


I want to take a good look at Rev 12:10-12. It says, "And I heard a loud voice saying in heaven, NOW (arti, just now, this day, this present time) IS COME (ginomai, to cause to be, TO ARISE, BE TAKEN, BE ASSEMBLED, BE ENDED, BE FINISHED, BE MARRIED, BE BROUGHT TO PASS) SALVATION (soteria, RESCUE, DELIVERANCE), and strength (dunamis, miraculous power, mighty wonderful work), and the kingdom of our God, and the power of his Christ: for the accuser of our brethren is cast down, which accused them before our God day and night. 11 And they overcame (nikao, conquered, got the victory, past tense) him by the blood of the Lamb, and by the word of their testimony; and they loved not their lives unto the death. 12 THEREFORE REJOICE, YE HEAVENS, AND YE THAT DWELL IN THEM (i.e., the Bride of Christ). Woe to the inhabiters of the earth and of the sea! for the devil is come down unto you, having great wrath, because he knoweth that he hath but a short time" (i.e., the shortened Great Tribulation).

It looks like the First-Trump Rapture will be Mid-Trib, about June 4, 2013.

The way I got June 4 for Mid-Trib: Eze 45:18 says, "Thus saith the Lord GOD; In the first month, in the first day of the month, thou shalt take a young bullock without blemish, and cleanse the sanctuary".

I think the Second Advent will be on Nisan 1, 5766, Sat. April 9, on the anniversary of Jesus' Resurrection on April 9, 30 AD. It will be the first day of the Jubilee, Regnal and Sacred calendars. I subtracted the 2300 day Tribulation of Dan. 8:13,14 and got Dec 22, 2009 for the beginning of the Tribulation. To get Mid-Trib, I added 1260 days to Dec 22, 2009, Mid-Trib.

Two eclipses are coming this month. The Annular Solar eclipse of May 10, 2013 will be a Ring-of-Fire Eclipse. A Penumbral Lunar eclipse is coming May 25, 2013 too.

Song 2:10-17 fits. It says, "My beloved spake, and said unto me, RISE UP (qum, lift up) MY LOVE, MY FAIR ONE, AND COME AWAY (halak, DEPART UPWARD). 11 For, lo, the winter is past (i.e., it is spring), the rain (i.e., the latter rain of Nisan) is over and gone; 12 The flowers appear on the earth; the time of the singing of birds is come, and the voice of the turtle (lit., turtledove) is heard in our land (it is there from April to October); 13 The fig tree putteth forth her green figs (in spring), and the vines with the tender grape give a good smell (they begin to be harvested June 1). Arise, my love, my fair one, and come away (probably around June 4, 2013). 14 O my dove, that art in the clefts of the rock (i.e., in Christ), in the secret places of the stairs (leave out places, it is not in the original, like Jacob's ladder, this is THE SECRET OF THE STAIRS), let me see thy countenance, let me hear thy voice; for sweet is thy voice, and thy countenance is comely. 15 Take us the foxes, the little foxes, that spoil the vines: for our vines have tender grapes (i.e., around June 1). 16 My beloved is mine, and I am his: he feedeth among the lilies. 17 Until the day break, and the shadows flee away, turn, my beloved, and be thou like a roe or a young hart upon the mountains of Bether" (meaning separation, i.e., there are two Raptures).

Isa 18:3-6 fits too. It says, "All ye inhabitants of the world, and dwellers on the earth, see ye, when he lifteth up an ensign (flag, i.e., the UN flag) on the mountains (kingdoms); and when he bloweth a trumpet, hear ye. 4 For so the LORD said unto me, I will take my rest, and I will consider (see) in my dwelling place like a clear heat upon herbs, and like a cloud of dew in the heat of harvest. 5 For afore the harvest, when the bud is perfect, and the sour grape is ripening in the flower, he shall both cut off the sprigs with pruning hooks, and take away and cut down the branches (netiyshah, tendrils, branches). 6 They shall be left together unto the fowls of the mountains, and to the beasts of the earth: and the fowls shall summer (i.e., the Rapture will take place in the spring, i.e., before June 21) upon them, and all the beasts of the earth shall winter upon them."


Charles (3 Apr 2013) "Is El Heiro A countdown to the rapture"

And the second angel sounded, and as it were a great mountain burning with fire was cast into the sea: and the third part of the sea became blood;

El heiro sits on a site loaded with radioactive waste. If this mountain of fire erupts and casts part of the island into the sea the east coast would see a devastating tsunami.

But I also remember reports of the volcano sitting adjacent to a waste dump of radioactive waste from the sixties.

Would not this waste turn the water bitter? In addition the tubes that the lava snakes up from are wait for it called warm holes!

From the evidence an eruption may occur in weeks if past history follows suit.

If it occurs at night and if it triggers a tsunami a radioactive wave 100 feet high would sweep over 1/3 of the worlds water. In six hours and forty three minutes hit the USA coast.

There is almost no media coverage little monitoring and it may or may not happen. But if it does I think the rapture will happen right before the wave hits.

Is this wormwood I don't know but it's certainly something to watch and pray about.


I don't think El Heiro is Wormwood, but Wormwood may set off the eruption and tsunami you wrote about.

The First-Trump Rapture will probably take place when Satan is cast out of Heaven. He and his angels will come down and we will go up, maybe around June 4, 2013.

The Last-Trump Rapture will take place just before the awful destruction hits. God will wipe away their tears. They will be snatched out almost at the last minute (Rev 6:17; 7:14).

Satan's asteroid Wormwood will bring destruction to the whole Earth. Every wall will fall.

Eze 38:18-23 says, "And it shall come to pass at the same time when Gog shall come against the land of Israel, saith the Lord GOD, that MY FURY shall come up in my face. 19 For in my jealousy and in the fire of MY WRATH have I spoken, Surely in that day there shall be a great shaking in the land of Israel (Satan's asteroid Wormwood will impact Earth at Babylon, and a mountain-sized piece will hit the Mediterranean Sea); 20 So that the fishes of the sea, and the fowls of the heaven, and the beasts of the field, and all creeping things that creep upon the earth, and all the men that are upon the face of the earth, shall shake at my presence (paniym, face, i.e., they will see the Sign of the Son of Man in the sky), and the mountains shall be thrown down, and the steep places shall fall, and EVERY WALL SHALL FALL to the ground. 21 And I will call for a sword against him throughout all my mountains, saith the Lord GOD: every man's sword shall be against his brother. 22 And I will plead against him with pestilence and with blood; and I will rain upon him, and upon his bands, and upon the many people that are with him, an overflowing rain (a tsunami), and great hailstones, fire, and brimstone. 23 Thus will I magnify myself, and sanctify myself; and I will be known in the eyes of many nations, and they shall know that I am the LORD."

Isa 22:5 says, "For it is a day of trouble, and of treading down, and of perplexity by the Lord GOD of hosts in the valley of vision, breaking down the walls, and of crying to the mountains."

Isa 51:9 "Awake, awake, put on strength, O arm of the LORD (the Son of God, Isa 53:1); awake, as in the ancient days, in the generations of old. Art thou not it that hath cut (lit., split) Rahab (Satan's planet is now our Asteroid Belt), and wounded the dragon?" (Satan).

Isa 22:16-19 says, "What hast thou here? (Babylon) and whom hast thou here (the Satan-possessed False Prophet), that thou hast hewed thee out a sepulchre here, as he (Satan) that heweth him out a sepulchre on high, and that graveth an habitation for himself in a ROCK? 17 Behold, the LORD will carry thee away with a mighty captivity, and will surely cover thee. 18 He will surely VIOLENTLY TURN AND TOSS THEE LIKE A BALL into a large country: there shalt thou die, and there the chariots of thy glory shall be the shame of thy lord's house. 19 And I will drive thee from thy station, and from thy state shall he pull thee down."

Rev 8:8 says, "And the second angel sounded, and as it were A GREAT MOUNTAIN BURNING WITH FIRE WAS CAST INTO THE SEA (i.e., the Mediterranean): and the third part of the sea became blood; 9 And the third part of the creatures which were in the sea, and had life, died; and the third part of the ships were destroyed. 10 And the third angel sounded, and there fell a great star from heaven, burning as it were a lamp, and it fell upon the third part of the rivers, and upon the fountains of waters; 11 And THE NAME OF THE STAR IS CALLED WORMWOOD: and the third part of the waters became wormwood; and many men died of the waters, because they were made bitter."

The planet will be knocked upside down, causing Jesus' Long Day, of which Joshua's Long Day was a type.

Isa_24:1 says, "Behold, the LORD maketh the earth empty, and maketh it waste, and turneth it UPSIDE DOWN, and scattereth abroad the inhabitants thereof."

Isa_29:16 says, "Surely your turning of things upside down shall be esteemed as the potter's clay: for shall the work say of him that made it, He made me not? or shall the thing framed say of him that framed it, He had no understanding?"

Isa 10:16-19 says, "Therefore shall the Lord, the Lord of hosts, send among his fat ones leanness; and under his glory (i.e., closer to us than Saturn's rings) he shall kindle a burning like the burning of a fire. 17 And the light of Israel shall be for a fire, and his Holy One for a flame: and it shall burn and devour his thorns and his briers in one day; 18 And shall consume the glory of his forest, and of his fruitful field, both soul and body: and they shall be as when a standardbearer fainteth. 19 And the rest of the trees of his forest shall be few, that a child may write them."


Eze 1:1 says, "the heavens were opened, and I saw visions of God."

Eze 1:26-28 says, "And above the firmament (i.e., expanse of space) that was over their heads (farther out in space than the terrestrial planets) was the likeness of a throne, as the appearance of a sapphire stone (as a September birthstone, sapphire means Heaven): and upon the likeness of the throne was the likeness as the appearance of a man (Jesus, the only God/man) above upon it. 27 And I saw as the colour of amber (Saturn is amber), as the appearance of fire round about within it, from the appearance of his loins (i.e., from the equator) even upward, and from the appearance of his loins (from the equator) even downward, I saw as it were the appearance of fire, and it had brightness (i.e., Saturn's rings) round about. 28 As the appearance of the bow that is in the cloud in the day of rain, so was the appearance of the brightness round about. This was the appearance of the likeness of the GLORY of the LORD." Agape

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