Pro and Con 1732
THIS 6-FINGERED STATUE WAS FOUND
AT GOBEKLI TEPE, TURKEY
I am very troubled by the material you've just posted. I've been studying the issue of Giants and pre-flood conditions for some while, and the notion that six-fingered giants coexisted with various beasts like 'deer, gazelle, pigs and geese' and did farming some 6000 years before man's creation in Eden flies in the face of the Genesis account of creation on the 6th day. Farming activity as you imply would have been the byproduct of the 'fall of man', wouldn't it? Moreover, the sea creatures and fowl were created on day 5, while the deer, gazelle, and pigs were created on day 6, the same as man. How are you reconciling that?
OK! I'll tell you what I believe. It all dovetails. Angels farmed before Adam was created, and man farmed after Adam was created.
There were animals on the face of the earth before Adam was created, but they were killed when the Moon material was dug out of our Pacific Basin by an asteroid from the breakup of Satan's planet Rahab, now our Asteroid Belt. A brand new generation of land animals that looked a bit different were created on the "SIXTH DAY".
Gen 1:24-31 says, "And God said, Let the EARTH bring forth the living creature after his kind, cattle, and creeping thing, and beast of the earth after his kind: and it was so. 25 And God made (asah, made out of existing material) the beast of the earth after his kind, and cattle after their kind, and every thing that creepeth upon the earth after his kind: and God saw that it was good. 26 And God said, Let us make (asah, make out of existing material, i.e., clay) man in our image, after our likeness: and let them have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the air, and over the cattle, and over all the earth, and over every creeping thing that creepeth upon the earth. 27 So God created (bara, to create out of nothing) man in his own image, in the image of God created (bara) he him; male and female created (bara) he them. 28 And God blessed them, and God said unto them, Be fruitful, and multiply, and REPLENISH ("male", fill, replenish) THE EARTH, and subdue it: AND HAVE DOMINION OVER THE FISH OF THE SEA (they didn't have to be created again), and over the fowl of the air, and over every living thing that moveth upon the earth. 29 And God said, Behold, I have given you EVERY HERB BEARING SEED (i.e., like wheat, barley, rye), which is upon the face of all the earth, and every tree, in the which is the FRUIT OF A TREE YIELDING SEED; to you it shall be for meat (oklah, food). 30 And to every beast of the earth, and to every fowl of the air, and to every thing that creepeth upon the earth, wherein there is life, I have given EVERY GREEN HERB FOR MEAT: and it was so. 31 And God saw every thing that he had made (asah, out of existing material), and, behold, it was very good. And the evening and the morning were the SIXTH DAY."
I have been to the Dinosaur National Monument in Utah. The bones of a complete dinosaur are exposed, but left in place in the earthen wall inside the Monument. That was mind boggling. Dinosaur bones are found in the hills of that whole area. I have also seen articulated dinosaur skeletons in museums. Dinosaurs were real, and huge, but we don't have any live ones today. They were probably killed off by an asteroid impact at the K-T Boundary before the angels came to settle on Earth.
Carbon dating only works with organic material less than 50,000 years old. It is useless at the K-T Boundary, but it works much better with organics 10,000 years old.
In 1980, Luis and Walter Alvarez found an iridium layer in different places around the globe. Certain fossils found below did not appear above that boundary. Between 50 and 60% of the species below were wiped out. Meteors and asteroids have a larger percentage of iridium than Earth's crust, so an asteroid is blamed for that extinction event.
I have been to the Brea Tar Pits in Los Angeles. Even in my lifetime, huge bubbles of gas, as large as a big beachball, come up, stay there awhile, then finally break in the water. In the tar pit, I saw bones of animals that had been trapped in the tar.
The saber-toothed cat, Smilodon Fatalis is the California state fossil and remains of more than 2,000 have been recovered from Rancho La Brea. The Camelops Hesternus found there is now extinct. More than 4,000 Dire Wolves have been dug out of the asphalt. Harlan's Ground Sloth is the most common of 3 species of ground sloth found there. Equus Occidentalis horses have been found there. Bison Antiquus has been found too. There are extinct small animals also, like the coyote, rabbit and skunk. They have been excavating animal bones there since 1900 without running out of more to work on. It is amazing to see these bones with your own eyes. Those animals were real, but they are not duplicated on Earth today. We have a whole new set of animal life that are more suited to coexistence with man.
I FIND NO EVIDENCE AMONG THE GRAVES IN SE TURKEY THAT THE ANGELS THAT LEFT THEIR OWN ESTATE BEFORE ADAM'S DAY WERE GIANTS, BUT SOME OF THEM HAD SIX FINGERS AND WERE OBVIOUSLY STRONGER THAN ADAMIC MAN
There are some angels on Earth today, but Jude 1:6 says, "the angels which kept not their first estate (i.e., on Satan's planet Rahab), but left their own habitation, he hath reserved in everlasting chains under darkness unto the judgment of the great day" (i.e., the Day of God's Wrath, when Satan's asteroid Wormwood will obliterate Babylon, and probably dig a perpetually burning, natural gas-fed Lake of Fire). They already have one ever-burning pit in Russia.
IT WAS THE LITERAL CHILDREN OF MALE ANGELS AND ADAMIC WOMEN THAT PRODUCED GIANTS IN THE DAYS OF NOAH
Gen 6:2-4 says, "That the sons (ben) of God (Elohuym) saw the daughters of men that they were fair; and they took them wives of all which they chose. 3 And the LORD said, My spirit shall not always strive with man, for that HE ALSO IS FLESH: yet his days shall be an hundred and twenty years. 4 There were giants in the earth in those days; and also after that, when the sons of God came in unto the daughters of men, and they bare children to them, the same became mighty men which were of old, men of renown."
THE ANGELS ON EARTH IN JOB'S DAY WERE "SONS OF GOD"
Job 1:6,7 says, "Now there was a day when the SONS (ben) OF GOD (Elohiym) came to present themselves before the LORD (Yehovah), and Satan came also among them. 7 And the LORD said unto Satan, Whence comest thou? Then Satan answered the LORD, and said, From going to and fro in the earth, and from walking up and down in it."
Only male sons of God are mentioned in the Bible, but when Ed visited me in his celestial body, I asked him if there were female angels in Heaven. He said, "Yes." So, the angels were created male and female. It makes sense. Why create a male if there is no female.
It is clear from the bones that males, females and children were living at Nevali Cori in Anatolia, Turkey. (http://neareast-prehistory.com/html/ppnb___ppnc.html)
The final Pre Pottery Neolithic C in that general area lasted from c. 7000 to 6500 BC. Why no later? No one seems to know, but I think the catastrophe that produced the Moon was the ending event. Earth had become "without form, and void; and darkness was upon the face of the deep." (Gen. 1:2)
THE NEW CREATION
After that, Adam, Eve, and a new animal kingdom had to be created. The plants did not need to be recreated. God watered the earth and the plants regrew.
HERBS GREW BEFORE ADAM WAS CREATED
Before Adam was created, Gen_2:5 says, "And every plant of the field BEFORE IT was in the earth, and every herb of the field BEFORE IT grew: for the LORD God had not caused it to rain upon the earth, and there was not a man to till the ground."
Gen 2:4-7 says, "These are the generations (toldah, descent, family history, generations) of the heavens and of the earth when they were created (bara, created out of nothing), in the day (i.e., later) that the LORD God MADE (asah, made out of existing materials) the earth and the heavens, 5 And every plant OF THE FIELD BEFORE IT was in the earth, and EVERY HERB OF THE FIELD BEFORE IT GREW: for the LORD God had not caused it to rain upon the earth, and there was not a man to till the ground. 6 But there went up a mist from the earth, and watered the whole face of the ground. 7 And the LORD God formed (yatsar, squeezed into shape as a potter) man of the dust of the ground, and breathed into his nostrils the breath of life; AND MAN BECAME A LIVING SOUL."
TWO CATASTROPHES: THE SON OF GOD SPLIT SATAN'S PLANET RAHAB, AND EARTH GOT HIT BY AN ASTEROID "IN THE GENERATIONS OF OLD"
Isa 51:9,10 says, "Awake, awake, put on strength, O arm of the LORD (i.e., the Son of God, Isa. 53:1); awake, AS IN THE ANCIENT DAYS (qedem, AFORETIME), IN THE GENERATIONS (dor, ages) OF OLD. ART THOU NOT IT THAT HATH CUT (chatsab, split) RAHAB (Satan's planet, now our Asteroid Belt), AND WOUNDED (chalal, to bore) THE DRAGON (Satan)? 10 Art thou not it which hath DRIED THE SEA, the waters of the great deep; that hath made the depths of the sea a way for the ransomed to pass over?"
THE SEA THAT WAS DRIED FOR AWHILE WAS THE PACIFIC OCEAN
Psa 89:8-11 says, "O LORD God of hosts, who is a strong LORD like unto thee? or to thy faithfulness round about thee? 9 THOU RULEST THE RAGING OF THE SEA: when the waves thereof arise, thou stillest them. 10 THOU HAST BROKEN RAHAB IN PIECES, as one that is slain; THOU HAST SCATTERED THINE ENEMIES (i.e., the fallen angels) WITH THY STRONG ARM (i.e., as if throwing the asteroid). 11 The heavens are thine, the earth also is thine: as for the world and the fulness thereof, thou hast founded them."
Psa 104:4-9 says, "WHO MAKETH HIS ANGELS SPIRITS; his ministers a flaming fire: 5 Who laid the foundations of the earth, that it should not be removed for ever. 6 Thou coveredst it with the deep as with a garment: THE WATERS STOOD ABOVE THE MOUNTAINS. 7 At thy rebuke they fled; at the voice of thy thunder they hasted away. 8 They go up by the mountains; they go down by the valleys unto THE PLACE (i.e., the Pacific Basin) which thou hast founded for them. 9 Thou hast set a bound that they may not pass over; that they turn not again to cover the earth."
THE WORLD WAS COVERED IN "THICK DARKNESS" WHEN THE MOON MATERIAL WAS CARVED OUT OF THE PACIFIC BASIN
Job 38:8-11 says, "WHO SHUT UP THE SEA WITH DOORS, WHEN IT BRAKE FORTH, AS IF IT HAD ISSUED OUT OF THE WOMB? 9 WHEN I MADE THE CLOUD THE GARMENT THEREOF, AND THICK DARKNESS A SWADDLINGBAND FOR IT, 10 AND BRAKE UP FOR IT MY DECREED PLACE (i.e., the PACIFIC BASIN) , and set bars and doors, 11 And said, Hitherto shalt thou come, but no further: and here shall thy proud waves be stayed?"
Gen 1:2 says, "And the earth was (hayah, lit., became) without form, and void; and DARKNESS was upon the face of the deep."
Gen 1:9 says, "And God said, Let the waters under the heaven be gathered together unto one place, and let the dry land appear: and it was so."
THE CONTINENTS SPLIT APART
Gen_10:25 says, "And unto Eber were born two sons: the name of one was Peleg (meaning earthquake and division); for in his days was the earth divided" (i.e., the continents split apart).
I think the catastrophe that ended the angel's early civilization on Earth was when the Lord dug the Moon material out of the Pacific Basin. Earth rocked back and forth, sloshing water everywhere. Seashells are found on Mt. Everest. Soil is striated all over the place. Witness the Grand Canyon. I think this catastrophe is what threw tons of sand, soil, rocks and anything else loose in the vicinity into the calendar circles at Gobekli Tepe, Turkey.
The angels in Anatolia, Turkey were obviously male and female because there are bones of babies and children. In some places, they have found skulls that had plaster put on them to try to recreate what the male person looked like. They could be men if that was all we had to go on. However, they lived on Earth before Adam was created in 4043 BC, so they can't be human. They were angels.
Catalhoyuk, in central Turkey, has been established as the world's oldest town. Another very early village was Jericho. "The areas in which the first villages were established contained wild wheat, ...(barley), peas and lentils as well as the precursors of domesticated sheep, cattle, pigs and goats." (http://factsanddetails.com/world.php?itemid=1503)
MAN HAS BEEN CREATED A LITTLE LOWER THAN THE ANGELS
Psa_8:5 says, "For thou hast made him A LITTLE LOWER THAN THE ANGELS, and hast crowned him with glory and honour."
THE ANGELS WERE JUDGED
Job 4:18 says, "his angels he charged with folly".
Heb 2:2 says, "For if the word spoken by angels was stedfast, and every transgression and disobedience received a just recompence of reward..."
They must have appealed their sentence, and man was created to prove God was just in sentencing them to prison.
MAN WAS CREATED "A LITTLE LOWER THAN THE ANGELS"
Man is not as strong as the angels, and cannot see God. If man could still obey God, the Lord would be just in consigning the angels who left the planet Rahab, and who could see God, to prison.
Heb 2:5-7 says, "For unto the angels hath he not put in subjection the world to come, whereof we speak. 6 But one in a certain place testified, saying, What is man, that thou art mindful of him? or the son of man, that thou visitest him? 7 Thou madest him A LITTLE LOWER THAN THE ANGELS; thou crownedst him with glory and honour, and didst set him over the works of thy hands".
Heb_2:9 says, "we see Jesus, who was made A LITTLE LOWER THAN THE ANGELS for the suffering of death, crowned with glory and honour; that he by the grace of God should taste death for every man."
Heb_1:7 says, "And of the angels he saith, WHO MAKETH HIS ANGELS SPIRITS (pneuma, a current of air, the Holy Spirit, or an angel), and his ministers a flame of fire."
We can't make ourselves invisible. The angels can do that, and they can make themselves visible. The fallen angels could see God and failed to obey him. If we, not being able to see God, can still obey him, the Lord will be proved just in consigning the fallen angels to prison.
ANGELS ARE STRONGER THAN MAN
Psa_103:20 says, "Bless the LORD, ye his angels, that EXCEL IN STRENGTH, that do his commandments, hearkening unto the voice of his word."
2Pe 2:11 says, "Whereas ANGELS, WHICH ARE GREATER IN POWER AND MIGHT, bring not railing accusation against them before the Lord."
THE CENTRAL STATUE IN THE PICTURE JUST POSTED ON PRO AND CON 1730 HAS 6 FINGERS, AS ON THE PILLAR
It is a limestone statue that was found in Urfa, at the pond known as Balikli Gol. It has been carbon dated 10,000 to 9000 BC, so it is the oldest stone sculpture ever found. Its eyes are of obsidian, and it has 6 fingers on each hand. It looks like a man, and he is a male, but to me, those 6 fingers identify him as an angel. They may not all have six fingers, but some of them do.
Also in the picture, the hands carved on the stone pillar have six fingers. To me, that means that the one that did the carving had six fingers. He was an angel. Since angels are stronger than men, that fact helps us understand how they could transport those 15-ton pillars from the quarry to the calendar circle sites.
I don't know how they could carve those limestone pillars with such detail. It is amazing. Flint and obsidian tools are all they have found at the site, and there are thousands of pieces of flint. I saw a man use a rock as a hammer to hit a shaped stone to whittle away the background to demonstrate how they could have done it. Even that is slow.
Look at the middle animal on the pillar on the right. I can't even identify it. The head is big and strange looking. Many of the animals on the pillars have strange-looking big heads. I found out that they had dogs though. I doubt that all dogs come from wolves. Some are way too different.
AFTER THE ANGELS TOOK HUMAN WIVES, GIANTS WERE BORN TO THEM, BOTH BEFORE AND AFTER NOAH'S FLOOD
2Sa_21:20 says, "And there was yet a battle in Gath, where was a man of GREAT STATURE, that had on every hand six fingers, and on every foot six toes, four and twenty in number; and he also was born to the giant."
BY 5000 BC, 'AIN GHAZAL, NEAR AMMAN, JORDAN, WAS COMPLETELY DESERTED, PROBABLY BECAUSE OF THE CATASTROPHE CAUSED BY THE BIRTH OF THE MOON FROM THE EARTH
The discovery of Jericho, dated 8000 BC, was the first to push back the date of the birth of "civilization". 'Ain Ghazal, across the Jordan from Jericho, near Amman, is often seen as a sister site of Jericho and, with its 15-hectare area, is the largest Neolithic site in the Middle East and four times as big as Jericho.
Gary O. Rollefson, head archaeologist, was able to date 'Ain Ghazal at 7250 BC, and there is evidence of agriculture in the area dating back to c. 6000 BC. In its heyday, 2,000 people lived at 'Ain Ghazal. HOWEVER, BY 5000 BC, IT WAS COMPLETELY DESERTED. I think that was because of the catastrophic creation of the Moon so man could keep track of the seasons without building megalithic calendar circles. Man's back could not take that. I ruined my back digging a 4 ft. x 28 ft. Doughboy Pool halfway into the ground in adobe clay. One disk won't even show up on X-rays.
Like 'Ain Ghazal, other towns were deserted too. I think that catastrophe put an end to the civilization of the angels that left their first estate.
Thirty statues have been found at 'Ain Ghazal, measuring between 35 and 90 centimetres; they are human in appearance but probably represent angels. They are made of plaster over a bundle of reeds, so they are not of the caliber of the statue in the picture.
"'Ain Ghazal is a Neolithic site located in North-Western Jordan, on the outskirts of Amman. It dates as far back as 7250 BC, and was inhabited until 5000 BC. At 15 hectares (37 ac), 'Ain Ghazal ranks as one of the largest known prehistoric settlements in the Near East."
Jericho's discovery added weight to the argument that the Bible is history, not myth. But when the media found out that there are older sites than Jericho, in Anatolia, southeast Turkey, media interest waned. But, Google will turn them up, and Wikipedia has good articles on them.
The most famous of these sites in Anatolia is Catal Hoyuk. It was discovered in 1958 by James Mellaart, who began excavations in 1961 and dated the site to 7500–5700 BC. It is the largest and best-preserved Neolithic site found to date." (http://www.philipcoppens.com/gobekli.html)
Catal Hoyuk was SUDDENLY abandoned in the Yarmoukian period ca. 5000 BC.
Before we look at the Genesis account, there is one thing we need to establish first. In Hebrew, when the word hayah, translated "was", is used, it shows that there is a change. When the Hebrew word is not used, the translator supplies the "was" and there is no change.
In our KJV Bibles, when the Hebrew word for "was" is there in the original, the word is in the regular type. When the word hayah is not in the original, the word "was" is in italics and is printed in a lighter color. Often hayah should be translated "became". If "hayah" is in the original, I will make the word "was" bold.
Gen 1:1 says, "In the beginning God created (bara, created out of nothing) the heaven and the earth."
WE KNEW THAT, BUT HERE IS THE SURPRISE
Gen 1:2 says, "And the earth was (hayah, BECAME) without form (tohu, waste), and void (bohu, empty, an undistinguishable ruin); and DARKNESS was upon the face of the deep. And the Spirit of God moved upon the face of the waters."
THERE "WAS NO MAN" BUT THERE WERE BIRDS AND CITIES, AND THE LORD WAS ANGRY
Jer_4:23-28 says, "I BEHELD THE EARTH, and, lo, it was (i.e., there is no change at this point) without form, and void; and the heavens, and they had NO LIGHT. 24 I beheld the mountains, and, lo, they trembled, and all the hills moved lightly. 25 I beheld, and, lo, THERE WAS NO MAN, and all the BIRDS of the heavens were fled. 26 I beheld, and, lo, the fruitful place was (no change) a wilderness, and ALL THE CITIES THEREOF WERE BROKEN DOWN AT THE PRESENCE OF THE LORD, AND BY HIS FIERCE ANGER. 27 FOR THUS HATH THE LORD SAID, THE WHOLE LAND SHALL BE DESOLATE; YET WILL I NOT MAKE A FULL END. 28 FOR THIS SHALL THE EARTH MOURN, AND THE HEAVENS ABOVE BE BLACK".
Isa 45:18 says, "For thus saith the LORD that created (bara, created out of nothing) the heavens; God himself that formed (yatsar, squeezed into shape as a potter) the earth and made (asah, to make out of existing things) it; he hath established it, he created it not in vain (tohu, waste), he formed it to be inhabited".
Isa_45:7 says, "I form the light, and create darkness: I make peace, and create evil: I the LORD do all these things."
Angels and some animals inhabited Earth before Adam was created, but those animals were wiped out when the Earth became a ruin so devastating that the Earth became empty, and dark. Then God started to make the world a fit habitat for Adam.
Gen 1:3-5 says, "And God said, Let there be light: and there was (hayah, became) light. (THE SUN AND MOON WERE ALREADY THERE)4 And God saw the light, that it was good: and God divided the light from the darkness. 5 And God called the light Day, and the darkness he called Night. And the evening and the morning were the first day."
Gen 1:6-8 says, "And God said, Let there be a firmament (expanse of space) in the midst of the waters, and let it divide the waters from the waters. 7 And God made the firmament, and divided the waters which were under the firmament from the waters which were above the firmament: and it was (hayah, became) so. 8 And God called the firmament (expanse of space) Heaven (shamayim, heavens, sky). And the evening and the morning were the second day."
Gen 1:9-13 says, "And God said, Let the waters under the heaven be gathered together unto one place (THE PACIFIC BASIN), and let the dry land appear: and it was (hayah, became) so. 10 And God called the dry land Earth; and the gathering together of the waters called he Seas: and God saw that it was good. 11 And God said, Let the earth bring forth grass, the herb yielding seed, and the fruit tree yielding fruit after his kind, whose seed is in itself, upon the earth: and it was (hayah, became) so. 12 And the earth brought forth grass, and herb yielding seed after his kind, and the tree yielding fruit, whose seed was in itself, after his kind: and God saw that it was good. 13 And the evening and the morning were the third day."
Gen 1:14-19 says, "And God said, Let there be lights in the firmament (expanse of space) of the heaven (shamayim, heavens) to divide the day from the night; and let them be for signs, and for seasons, and for days, and years:" 15 And let them be for lights in the firmament of the heaven to give light upon the earth: and it was (hayah, became) so. 16 And God made two great lights; the greater light to rule the day, and the lesser light to rule the night: he made the stars also. 17 And God set them in the firmament of the heaven (heavens) to give light upon the earth, 18 And to rule over the day and over the night, and to divide the light from the darkness: and God saw that it was good. 19 And the evening and the morning were the fourth day."
Gen 1:20-23 says, "And God said, Let the waters bring forth abundantly the moving creature that hath life, and fowl that may fly above the earth in the open firmament of heaven (the heavens). 21 And God created (bara, created out of nothing) great whales, and every living creature that moveth, which the waters brought forth abundantly, after their kind, and every winged fowl after his kind: and God saw that it was good. 22 And God blessed them, saying, Be fruitful, and multiply, and fill the waters in the seas, and let fowl multiply in the earth. 23 And the evening and the morning were the fifth day."
Gen 1:24-31 says, "And God said, Let the earth bring forth the living creature after his kind, cattle, and creeping thing, and beast of the earth after his kind: and it was (hayah, became) so. 25 And God made (asah eth) the beast of the earth after his kind, and cattle after their kind, and every thing that creepeth upon the earth after his kind: and God saw that it was good. 26 And God said, Let us make man in our image, after our likeness: and let them have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the air, and over the cattle, and over all the earth, and over every creeping thing that creepeth upon the earth. 27 So God created (bara eth, created out of nothing) man in his own image, in the image of God created (bara) he him; male and female created (bara) he them. 28 And God blessed them, and God said unto them, Be fruitful, and multiply, and REPLENISH the earth, and subdue it: and have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the air, and over every living thing that moveth upon the earth. 29 And God said, Behold, I have given you every herb bearing seed, which is upon the face of all the earth, and every tree, in the which is the fruit of a tree yielding seed; to you it shall be for meat. 30 And to every beast of the earth, and to every fowl of the air, and to every thing that creepeth upon the earth, wherein there is life, I have given every green herb for meat: and it was so. 31 And God saw every thing that he had made (asah, made out of existing material), and, behold, it was very good. And the evening and the morning were the sixth day."
HE DIVIDETH THE SEA WITH HIS POWER, AND BY HIS UNDERSTANDING HE SMITETH THROUGH THE PROUD, I.E., RAHAB, WHICH MEANS PROUD
Job 26:7-13 says, "He stretcheth out the north over the empty place, and hangeth the earth upon nothing. 8 He bindeth up (tsarar, cramp, literally or figuratively) the waters in his thick clouds; and the cloud is not rent under them. 9 He holdeth back the face of his throne, and spreadeth his cloud upon it. 10 HE HATH COMPASSED THE WATERS WITH BOUNDS, until the day and night come to an end (i.e., on the Day of God's Wrath). 11 The pillars of heaven tremble and are astonished at his reproof. 12 He divideth the sea with his power, and by his understanding he smiteth through the proud (RAHAB, proud, strength, blusterer). 13 By his spirit he hath garnished (shiphrah, made bright, garnished) the heavens; his hand hath formed the crooked serpent."
"THOU SHALT DIE THE DEATHS OF THEM THAT ARE SLAIN IN THE MIDST OF THE SEAS"
Eze 28:2-8 says, "Son of man, say unto the prince (Satan) of Tyrus (a rock, i.e., Rahab), Thus saith the Lord GOD; Because thine heart is lifted up, and thou hast said, I am a God, I sit in the seat of God, in the midst of the seas; yet thou art a man, and not God, though thou set thine heart as the heart of God: 3 Behold, thou art wiser than Daniel; there is no secret that they can hide from thee: 4 With thy wisdom and with thine understanding thou hast gotten thee riches, and hast gotten gold and silver into thy treasures: 5 By thy great wisdom and by thy traffick hast thou increased thy riches, and thine heart is lifted up because of thy riches: 6 Therefore thus saith the Lord GOD; Because thou hast set thine heart as the heart of God; 7 Behold, therefore I will bring strangers upon thee, the terrible of the nations: and they shall draw their swords against the beauty of thy wisdom, and they shall defile thy brightness. 8 They shall bring thee down to the pit, and thou shalt die the deaths of them that are slain in the midst of the seas."
Eze 28:12-19 says, "Son of man, take up a lamentation upon the king of Tyrus (rock, i.e., Satan), and say unto him, Thus saith the Lord GOD; Thou sealest up the sum, full of wisdom, and perfect in beauty. 13 Thou hast been in Eden the garden of God; every precious stone was thy covering (i.e., surroundings), the sardius (i.e., Mercury), topaz (Venus), and the diamond (Earth), the beryl (Mars), the onyx (RAHAB), and the jasper (Jupiter), the sapphire (Saturn, Jesus' throne, Eze. 1:1,26-28), the emerald (Uranus), and the carbuncle (Neptune), and gold (Pluto): the workmanship of thy tabrets and of thy pipes was prepared in thee in the day that thou wast created. 14 Thou art the anointed cherub that covereth; and I have set thee so: thou wast upon the holy mountain of God (i.e., Saturn); thou hast walked up and down in the midst (tavek, center) of the stones of fire (on Rahab, the 5th planet, now our Asteroid Belt). 15 Thou wast perfect in thy ways from the day that thou wast created, till iniquity was found in thee. 16 By the multitude of thy merchandise they have filled the midst of thee with violence, and thou hast sinned: therefore I will cast thee as profane out of the mountain of God (i.e., Saturn): and I will destroy thee, O covering cherub, from the midst of the stones of fire (i.e., Rahab). 17 Thine heart (i.e., Satan's) was lifted up because of thy beauty, thou hast corrupted thy wisdom by reason of thy brightness: I will cast thee to the ground, I will lay thee before kings, that they may behold thee. 18 Thou hast defiled thy sanctuaries (i.e., on Rahab and Earth, at Babylon) by the multitude of thine iniquities, by the iniquity of thy traffick; therefore will I bring forth a fire from the midst of thee, it shall devour thee, and I will bring thee to ashes upon the earth in the sight of all them that behold thee. 19 All they that know thee among the people shall be astonished at thee: thou shalt be a terror, and never shalt thou be any more."
Isa 14:12-17 says, "How art thou fallen from heaven, O Lucifer, son of the morning! how art thou cut down to the ground, which didst weaken the nations! 13 For thou hast said in thine heart, I will ascend into heaven, I will exalt my throne above the stars of God: I will sit also upon the mount of the congregation (moed, assembly, Heb 12:23), in the sides of the north: 14 I will ascend above the heights of the clouds; I will be like the most High. 15 Yet thou shalt be brought down to hell, to the sides of the pit. 16 They that see thee shall narrowly look upon thee, and consider thee, saying, Is this the man (iysh, a male person, i.e., not necessarily an adamic man) that made the earth to tremble, that did shake kingdoms; 17 That made (sum, caused) the world (tebel, earth, as moist and inhabited) as a wilderness (midbar, destroyed), and destroyed (haras, break in pieces) the cities thereof; that opened not the house of his prisoners?"
I THINK THE ANGELS, COMING FROM SATAN'S PLANET RAHAB, NATURALLY INTERESTED IN CELESTIAL PHENOMENA, USED MEGALITHIC CALENDAR CIRCLES TO PREDICT THE SUMMER AND WINTER EQUINOX, "THE OMENS OF THE SUN AND MOON AND ALL THE SIGNS OF HEAVEN"
In Egypt, they could have noticed that the Nile floods happened a little after the heliacal rising of Sirius, so they looked for Sirius, the brightest star in the sky. They knew where to look for it, because Betelgeuse (in Orion) and Castor (in Gemini) were higher in the sky and formed a triangle with Sirius.
The Book of Jubilees, an apocryphal book, VIII:1-5 says, "Kainam, Noah's grandson, "CAME UPON A WRITING WHICH MEN OF OLD HAD CARVED ON A ROCK...IT CONTAINED THE TEACHING OF THE WATCHERS (i.e., Angels), IN ACCORDANCE WITH WHICH THEY USED TO OBSERVE THE OMENS OF THE SUN AND MOON AND ALL THE SIGNS OF HEAVEN."
Jubilees XI:7-8 says of Serug and Nahor, Kainam's descendants, they "worshipped idols...and [Nahor's] father instructed him in the learning of the Chaldees, how to divine and foretell the future from the signs of heaven." Astrology is prohibited by God. Astronomy is ok.
The angelic fascination with astrology seems to have started c. 11000 BC. In the Book of Enoch, Baraqiel taught men astrology. Agape
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