Pro and Con 1770

Posted 12-16-13


When we went fishing in the Pacific Ocean off Redondo Beach, someone on board brought up a crab, but its legs were not nearly this long. I was shocked when I saw this one.


Hi Marilyn---you asked for my scriptural proof--my proof comes from the words of Jesus whom I believe is Almighty God and who is perfectly capable of haven written the Bible in perfect order--certainly you are familiar with these words---Matthew 24 14 And this gospel of the kingdom shall be preached in all the world for a witness unto all nations; and then shall the end come.

15 When ye therefore shall see the abomination of desolation, spoken of by Daniel the prophet, stand in the holy place, (whoso readeth, let him understand:)

16 Then let them which be in Judaea flee into the mountains:

17 Let him which is on the housetop not come down to take any thing out of his house:

18 Neither let him which is in the field return back to take his clothes.

19 And woe unto them that are with child, and to them that give suck in those days!

20 But pray ye that your flight be not in the winter, neither on the sabbath day:

21 For then shall be great tribulation, such as was not since the beginning of the world to this time, no, nor ever shall be.


Thanks. Yes, Mt. 24 (and Mk 13, Luke 17 and 21) are familiar.

Also, I agree with you that Jesus is Almighty God. Of that I am sure.

Isa 44:6-8 says, "Thus saith the LORD the King of Israel, and his redeemer the LORD of hosts; I am the first, and I am the last; and beside me there is no God. 7 And who, as I, shall call, and shall declare it, and set it in order for me, since I appointed the ancient people? and the things that are coming, and shall come, let them shew unto them. 8 Fear ye not, neither be afraid: have not I told thee from that time, and have declared it? ye are even my witnesses. Is there a God beside me? yea, there is no God; I know not any."

The Bible was written as Jesus/God inspired holy men to write.

2Pe_1:21 says, "For the prophecy came not in old time by the will of man: but holy men of God spake as they were moved by the Holy Ghost."Agape

INCOMING EMAIL, RE: Think about it

Notice that in the first two verses that many believed in Jesus but would not confess him for fear of being cast out of church. This is what happens in the churches of our time to those who are unwilling to accept a trinity doctrine.

Then Jesus "cried" indicating great disappointment and then proclaimed in no uncertain words that if you believe in him you are actually believing in the Almighty God. And then he makes it more clear by saying that if you had seen him, you have seen God. And then states that it is this word that will judge you in the last day.

Anything that attempts to divide God into three different entities is an attempt to divide and conquer God and place God within the limits of human understanding and that is a purely demonic endeavor. Jesus is God and him alone should you serve for he is the light of the world.---Ben

John 12

42 Nevertheless among the chief rulers also many believed on him; but because of the Pharisees they did not confess him, lest they should be put out of the synagogue:

43 For they loved the praise of men more than the praise of God.

44 Jesus cried and said, He that believeth on me, believeth not on me, but on him that sent me.

45 And he that seeth me seeth him that sent me.

46 I am come a light into the world, that whosoever believeth on me should not abide in darkness.

47 And if any man hear my words, and believe not, I judge him not: for I came not to judge the world, but to save the world.

48 He that rejecteth me, and receiveth not my words, hath one that judgeth him: the word that I have spoken, the same shall judge him in the last day.


Thanks. Well put.

Mat_28:19 says, "Go ye therefore, and teach all nations, baptizing them in the name (singular, one name) of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Ghost". Agape


This is not really a question but, I thought it might have pertinence to the prophecy about "PEACE AND SAFETY".

There are many who believe that when the time for this prophecy takes place people will be saying "there is peace and safety" or some say that people will be calling for "peace and safety". Either way would fit what is taking place with Syria today, if , when the time comes Obama says that he is calling off the attacks on Syria leaving the world to believe that "peace and safety" prevailed (then sudden destruction) just as the prophecy foretold--I woke this morning with this thought and felt I should share it.

I think it is nice that you provide an "easy" venue which does not require passwords and other stuff that blogs require for people who watch end time events and would like to pose questions once in a while. THANKS SO MUCH.


Thanks for your comment about my site being easy to access. I never thought about making it any other way. It seems to me that doing that would discourage the people I wanted to hear from.

Here is the peace and safety section. It can be easily understood if we keep "brethren", "ye", "us" and "yourselves" separate from "they", "them", and "others". Only the brethren, the believers, "know perfectly".

1Th 5:1-11 says, "But of the times and the seasons, brethren (i.e., believers), ye have no need that I write unto you. 2 For yourselves know perfectly that the day of the Lord (i.e., which is also the Day of God’s Wrath) so cometh as a thief in the night (Rev. 6:17). 3 For when they (i.e., unbelievers)shall say, Peace and safety; then sudden destruction cometh upon them (i.e., and not upon us), as travail upon a woman with child; and they shall not escape. (But believers will escape in the Last-Trump Rapture.) 4 But ye, brethren, are not in darkness, that that day should overtake you as a thief. 5 Ye are all the children of light, and the children of the day: we are not of the night, nor of darkness. 6 Therefore let us not sleep, as do others; but let us watch and be sober. 7 For they that sleep sleep in the night; and they that be drunken are drunken in the night. 8 But let us, who are of the day, be sober, putting on the breastplate of faith and love; and for an helmet, the hope of salvation. 9 For God hath not appointed us to wrath, but to obtain salvation by our Lord Jesus Christ, 10 Who died for us, that, whether we wake or sleep, we should live together with him. 11 Wherefore comfort yourselves together, and edify one another, even as also ye do."

Rev 6:17 says, "For the great day of his wrath is come; and who shall be able to stand?" Only those that have been caught up in the First-Trump Rapture or the Last-Trump Rapture.

Rev. 7:14,15 says of the 144,000 Israelites and a great number of others that no one can count (v. 9), "These are they which came out of great tribulation, and have washed their robes, and made them white in the blood of the Lamb. 15 Therefore are they before the throne of God".

I think these are the Tribulation saints caught up on the Day of God's Wrath. That will be the day the asteroid Wormwood (Rev 8:11) destroys Babylon (Rev. 18:21). The mountain-sized piece mentioned in Rev 8:8 will impact the NE Mediterranean Sea, and Damascus will cease to be a city. Agape


"Rene (13 Dec 2013)
"Tremendous Door Opens in Heaven"

When John saw the DOOR opening in heaven in Rev Chapter 4 - what happened NEXT? He heard a voice as a trumpet saying "COME UP HITHER!!!!"


God reveals things in HIS WORD--
Then HE reveals them to HIS SERVANTS---
THEN HE brings them to pass!!! Rene"

"The Day of the LORD is finally here!"

"Dear Doves,

"Many moons have past since the opening of the website; to be precise, 1 shy of 200. Year after year, feast after feast, the doves are gathered here, watching, waiting, and hoping. There were times the watching was super intense, and there were times we were sleeping; at least for me, that is. Looking for a mega sign is what kept us watching through the ups and downs. Finding a mega sign means that the day of our redemption is close at hand -- the rapture is about to happen.

Many watchers are growing in excitement over the phenomenon of the tetrad -- the four blood moons. Few years back when Mark Biltz's discovery was first mentioned on the Doves, my interest in it was mild; I didn't expect to be around in 2014-2015 to witness it.

Now I think the TETRAD is God's final warning to watchers like us something MEGA is about to happen!

Unfortunately, the world is not paying attention. In fact, many Christians are totally ignorant of the tetrad sign. For those who are aware, some pooh-poohed the sign and took pains to point out that 1948 is not 1949 when the 1949-1950 tetrad supposedly pointed to the fulfillment of Israel becoming a nation in 1948. Perhaps the fuzziness of the time window (fuzzy to them, that is) will lull them into sleep and the Day of the LORD will catch them unawares.

For us, our antennas should be all up. Just looking at the last three tetrads alone, it's clear that the sign is supernatural and real. Given that if a tetrad is off by a year, this is merely 0.05% (based on a time span of 2000 years). But when you compound the probability of picking 3 dates spot on the last two thousand years, the odds are 1 in 8,000,000,000 !!!

I am not even considering all 7 tetrads since 1 AD; their odds are way off my calculator display screen.

God foretold the Final Tetrad in the Bible!

To me, this is the MEGA sign we have been looking for!

God actually foretold the final tetrad in the Bible. He did it in such brilliant simplicity that it amazes me that its discovery is not reported sooner. The timing of the final tetrad is hidden in plain sight for anyone who bothers to look into the Bible for clues.

On the day of the first Pentecost, the apostle Peter stood up and quoted the blood moon prophecy of the prophet Joel. There are only three scriptures in the Bible that contain the words, 'blood' and 'moon':

Joe 2:31 The sun shall be turned into darkness, and the moon into blood, before the great and the terrible day of the LORD come.
Act 2:20 The sun shall be turned into darkness, and the moon into blood, before that great and notable day of the Lord come:
Rev 6:12 And I beheld when he had opened the sixth seal, and, lo, there was a great earthquake; and the sun became black as sackcloth of hair, and the moon became as blood;

The first two scriptures are essentially the same, i.e. in Act 2:20, Peter quoted word for word the blood moon prophecy of Joe 2:31; we know what it refers to, the phenomenon of the eclipses of the sun and moon -- the final tetrad, the great and terrrible day of the LORD. Let me show you how God placed its timing in both verses: H2015 (Strong's for 'shall be turned') in the first scripture and G2016 (Strong's for 'notable') in the second scripture!

No doubt the skeptics will jump in and say, "Wait a minute. But I thought the tetrad is supposed to occur between 2014 and 2015, not between 2015 and 2016?" [.... eyes rolling ...]

Never mind the demand for a perfect match. Let us first take a closer look at the G2016 entry in the Strong's Concordance.

G2016 ep?fa??? epiphanes {ep-if-an-ace'} from 2014; TDNT - 9:7,1244; adj AV - notable 1; 1 1) conspicuous, manifest, illustrious.

Did you notice that? G2016 is from G2014 !!!!!!

It turns out G2016 is the adjective form of G2014. We will look at G2014 in a moment. But you can see the timing of the blood moons as recorded in the Book of Joel and the Book of Acts matches Strong's numbers with zero wriggle room! God inspired Dr. James Strong to order the Biblical words to align with the heavenly signs for us blessed end-time watchers. Now we know without a shadow of a doubt that truly, the great and terrible day of the LORD is finally upon us -- a dreaded day for the world, but a blessed day for believers who will escape all that is coming to the world.

The Blessed Hope

We have seen how the blood moon tetrad of 2014-2015 is uncannily hidden in the two scriptures in Joel and Acts -- both referring to the same heavenly event. The year 2015 is not even hidden in Joe 2:31 -- it is recorded openly if you care to look it up in the Strong's Concordance.

The year 2014 is thinly veiled in Act 2:20 since the Greek word G2016 is really rooted in the Greek word G2014. So the start of the final tetrad in the year 2014 is referenced in the New Testament and the end of the final tetrad in the year 2015 is referenced in the Old Testament.

How cool is our God!

What has been ascertained is the startling precision of the Bible in giving us the EXACT timing of the apocalyptic tetrad. But what about the rapture, our blessed hope? Is it also hinted somewhere?

You bet!

Dr. James Strong and colleagues basically clustered Biblical words that are similar (in terms of verb, noun, adjective) in their mammoth task of indexing. And so the Greek words from G2015 to G2017 are essentially derived from the root word G2014.

G2014 ep?fa??? epiphaino {ep-ee-fah'-ee-no} from 1909 and 5316; TDNT - 9:7,1244; v AV - appear 3, give light 1; 4 1) to show to or upon 1a) to bring to light 2) to appear, become visible 2a) of stars 3) to become clearly known, to show one's self.

G2015 ep?fa?e?a epiphaneia {ep-if-an'-i-ah} from 2016; TDNT - 9:7,1244; n f AV - appearing 5, brightness 1; 6 1) an appearing, appearance Often used of the glorious manifestation of the gods, and esp. of their advent to help; in the NT the advent of Christ, -- not only that which has already taken place and by which his presence and power appear in the saving light he has shed upon mankind, but also that illustrious return from heaven to earth to occur in the future.

G2016 ep?fa??? epiphanes {ep-if-an-ace'} from 2014; TDNT - 9:7,1244; adj AV - notable 1; 1 1) conspicuous, manifest, illustrious.

G2017 ep?fa?s?? epiphausko {ep-ee-fows'-ko} a form of 2014; TDNT - 9:310,*; v AV - give light 1; 1 1) to shine upon 1a) Christ will pour upon you the divine truth as the sun gives light to men aroused from sleep.

G2015 is from G2016 which is from G2014; G2017 is also a form of G2014; thus, all three Greek words are traced back to G2014.

When you examine the four occurrences of the Greek word G2014, you don't get a direct sense that it is referring to the rapture: a) Luk 1:79 To give light [G2014] to them that sit in darkness and in the shadow of death; b) Act 27:20 And when neither sun nor stars in many days appeared [G2014]; c) Ti 2:11 For the grace of God that bringeth salvation hath appeared [G2014] to all men; and d) Ti 3:4 But after that the kindness and love of God our Saviour toward man appeared [G2014].

Although the rapture is not explicitly referred to, there is intimation in some verses above. However, when we examine the Greek words G2015, G2016 and G2017, ALL point clearly to the coming of Jesus without exception. Since these three words find their root in the Greek word G2014, I venture to say that the rapture will take place in the year 2014 BEFORE the great and terrible day of the LORD comes.

These are the six scriptures in which the Greek word G2015 is found: a) 2 Th 2:8 And then shall that Wicked be revealed, whom the Lord shall consume with the spirit of his mouth, and shall destroy with the brightness [G2015] of his coming; b) 1 Ti 6:14 That thou keep this commandment without spot, unrebukeable, until the appearing [G2015] of our Lord Jesus Christ; c) 2 Ti 1:10 But is now made manifest by the appearing [G2015] of our Saviour Jesus Christ, who hath abolished death; d) 2 Ti 4:1 I charge thee therefore before God, and the Lord Jesus Christ, who shall judge the quick and the dead at his appearing [G2015] and his kingdom; e) 2 Ti 4:8 Henceforth there is laid up for me a crown of righteousness, which the Lord, the righteous judge, shall give me at that day: and not to me only, but unto all them also that love his appearing [G2015]; f) Ti 2:13 Looking for that blessed hope, and the glorious appearing [G2015] of the great God and our Saviour Jesus Christ.

The above are undoubtedly rapture scriptures!

The Greek word G2016 only appears in Act 2:20, the tetrad scripture. I believe the rapture will take place on the Feast of Trumpets in the year 2014, September 25. It would have been too obvious for God to place the Greek word G2014 directly in Act 2:20 -- the New Testament equivalent of Joe 2:31. Even so, G2016 is so closely linked with G2014, being its adjective, it doesn't take a rocket scientist to see the connection.

G2017 is another form of G2014, also a verb. It appears only once in the Bible in Eph 5:14, "Wherefore he saith, Awake thou that sleepest, and arise from the dead, and Christ shall give thee light [G2017]." Clearly, this is also a rapture scripture. Intriguingly, the gematria value of G2017 is 2016!

Thus, the four Greek words from G2014 to G2017, are SPOT ON if something MAJOR prophetically happens within the time of the final tetrad in 2014-2015. Collectively, the dozen of scriptures in which the four Greek words appear, describe the time of Jacob's Trouble, the time of the antichrist, the time of the judgement of the world, and the time of the rapture -- all triggered by the onset of the blood moons tetrad!

On a scale of 2000 years, this is pinpoint precision.

The Hebrew Word H2015

The Greek word G2014 intimates the appearing of Jesus at the start of the final tetrad to rapture the bride. What about the Hebrew word H2015, translated as 'shall be turned' in Joe 2:31, which refers to the sun turning black? Besides indicating the start of the great and terrible day of the Lord, does the Hebrew word H2015 have anything to do with the rapture in year 2014?

Apparently it has!

H2015 appears 94 times in 92 verses in the Old Testament; it is translated as 'turn' 57 times and 'overthrow' 13 times. Frequently the word haphak is associated with judgment. The first nine occurrences confirm its negative usage: i) Judgment of Adam and Eve in Gen 3:24 ... a flaming sword which turned every way [H2015] to keep the way of the tree of life; ii) Judgment and the overthrow [H2015] of Sodom and Gomorrah (3x); iii) Judgment of the Ten Plagues -- the rod which was turned [H2015] to a serpent; the river were turned [H2015] to blood; And the LORD turned [H2015] a mighty strong west wind; and the heart of Pharaoh and of his servants was turned [H2015] against the people (5x).

Could the judgment of the End Times begin in the year 2015, a time of great tribulation?

It very well could.

The Greek word G2015 appears 10 times in the Book of Psalms. I was curious whether it is somehow connected to the hidden prophecy in the Psalms. Lo and behold, its last occurrence in the Psalms is found in Ps 114 -- the psalm that corresponds to the year 2014!

Psa 114:8 Which turned [H2015] the rock into a standing water, the flint into a fountain of waters.

The context of Psalm 114 is the Exodus. The hidden prophecy could very well point to our Exodus from Egypt, a type of the world, to the Promised Land, a type of Heaven, in the year 2014.

So the final tetrad prophesied by the prophet Joel in the year 2015 is hidden in Psalm 114, pointing to the year 2014, which is the start of the final tetrad. We now have two double witnesses which absolutely nail the date of the blood moon prophecy:

Joe 2:31 (H2015) <=> Act 2:20 (G2014 <= G2016)
Joe 2:31 (H2015) <=> Psa 114:8 (H2015; 2014 <= hidden prophecy in the Psalms)

The matter is sealed when we realize that the chapter order total of the four scriptures is none other than the Lord Jesus Christ! Joel chapter 2 is chapter 878; Acts chapter 2 is chapter 1020; and Psalms chapter 114 is chapter 592. Since Joel chapter 2 is a double count, add these four chapter order numbers and the sum is 878 + 1020 + 878 + 592 = 3368 -- the Greek gematria value of LORD JESUS CHRIST (in-text value)!

Finally, if you add the total gematria values of the EIGHT (the final tetrad is the EIGHTH) verses of Psalm 114, the total is an incredible number that is FOUR TIMES the LORD JESUS CHRIST (3168; concordance value)! Is the Lord trying to underscore the significance of the FOUR blood moons starting in the year 2014?

One last thing I should mention is that the Joel prophecy signals the time of the end when the antichrist shall rule. Well, the gematria value of Joe 2:31 is TRIPLE 666 !!!

Also, I cannot resist mentioning another coincidence. Of the 92 verses in which the Hebrew word H2015 appear, only Psa 66:6 bears the beast number. Add the chapter order total of Psa 66:6, Psa 114:8 (hidden prophecy in 2014), and the final tetrad scripture, Joe 2:31, the sum is a surprising figure: chapter 544 + chapter 592 + chapter 878 = ?

I leave this as a small assignment for you. :)

Come, Lord Jesus! John"

Personally, I think all the tetrads are important markers. Also, only God could have arranged that. Agape


I love to read what you write. Thanks for reminding us when the "Tremendous Door Opens in Heaven."

> > "When John saw the DOOR opening in heaven in Rev Chapter 4 - what happened NEXT? He heard a voice as a trumpet saying "COME UP HITHER!!!!"


> > God reveals things in HIS WORD--
Then HE reveals them to HIS SERVANTS---
THEN HE brings them to pass!!!

Thanks Rene. I agree with you. "The door is open in Rev. 4:1."

Concerning the wise virgins, Mat_25:10 says, “And while they went to buy, the bridegroom came; and they that were ready went in with him to the marriage: and the door was shut.”

To the Philadelphian church for whom Jesus had no words of condemnation, Rev 3:8 says, “I know thy works: behold, I have set before thee an open door, and no man can shut it: for thou hast a little strength, and hast kept my word, and hast not denied my name.”

Rev. 4:1, says, "...behold, a door was opened in heaven: and the first voice which I heard was as it were of a trumpet talking with me; which said, Come up hither, and I will shew thee things which must be hereafter."

That applies to the wise virgins.

As you know, on Dec. 3, 13, Dr. Owuor had a dream. He said that the door to Heaven was open, and that TIME IS OVER.

That is music to my ears.

In Joh_10:9, Jesus said, "I am the door: by me if any man enter in, he shall be saved, and shall go in and out, and find pasture."

Rev 4:1 is the last time the word "door" appears in the Bible. To me, it has to refer to the First-Trump Rapture.

After that, Jesus is given the seven-sealed book in Rev. 5:7.

When the sixth seal is opened, the 2nd Rapture (the Last-Trump Rapture) takes place.

Rev 6:12 says, "And I beheld when he had opened the sixth seal, and, lo, there was a great earthquake; and the sun became black as sackcloth of hair, and the moon became as blood".

Rev 6:17 says, "For the great day of his wrath is come; and who shall be able to stand?"

Rev 7:9 says, "After this I beheld, and, lo, a great multitude, which no man could number, of all nations, and kindreds, and people, and tongues, stood before the throne, and before the Lamb, clothed with white robes, and palms in their hands".

Rev 7:14,15 says, "These are they which came out of great tribulation, and have washed their robes, and made them white in the blood of the Lamb. 15 Therefore are they before the throne of God".

The first Rapture is before the seals. The last Rapture is after the 6th seal. Therefore, there are two Raptures. I think the first is for the wise virgins, and the last is for the foolish virgins, plus the 144,000 Israelites, and a great multitude too numerous to be counted.


Rev 11:12 says, "And they (i.e., the 2 witnesses) heard a great voice from heaven saying unto them, COME UP HITHER. And they ascended up to heaven in a cloud; and their enemies beheld them."

Can you see that there are two Raptures?

The first is also seen in Rev 11:1-3. It says, "And there was given me a reed like unto a rod: and the angel stood, saying, RISE (egeiro, take up), and measure the temple of God, and the altar, and them that worship therein. 2 But the court which is without the temple leave out, and measure it not; for it is given unto the Gentiles: and the holy city shall they tread under foot forty and two months. 3 And I will give power unto my two witnesses, and they shall prophesy a thousand two hundred and threescore days, clothed in sackcloth."

The last is in Rev. 11:12 (quoted above). Do you know of other Scriptures that reflect the fact that there is a second Rapture? Agape

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