Pro and Con 1784

Posted 2-14-14


By Marilyn Agee

The tombs above were excavated later

Seabed limestone and the Gobekli Tepe mound
are on top of a mountain in the Taurus range

How did limestone, that forms under water, get on top of this mountain?

I was researching angel villages in ancient Turkey when I came across the following written by Kris Hirst.
"Six miles from Urfa, an ancient city in southeastern Turkey, Klaus Schmidt has made one of the most startling archaeological discoveries of our time: massive carved stones about 11,000 years old, crafted and arranged by prehistoric people who had not yet developed metal tools or even pottery. The megaliths predate Stonehenge by some 6,000 years. The place is called Gobekli Tepe, and Schmidt, a German archaeologist who has been working here more than a decade, is convinced it's the site of the world's oldest temple."
The Smithsonian magazine said, "Schmidt points to the great stone rings, one of them 65 feet across. 'This is the first human-built holy place,' he says." (

Someone else called Gobekli Tepe early neolithic sanctuaries, dated it 9,000 B.C., mentioned that only flint and bone tools have been found, and thought it was abandoned when the water supply dried up.

What water supply? There isn't a spring nearby. The only thing I have found was a possible cistern for storing water when torrential rains came.

"Radiocarbon dating places the construction of these early circles in the range of 9600 to 8800 BC; carbon dating suggests that (for reasons unknown) the enclosures were also backfilled during the Stone Age." (

Who would go to all that trouble to build some 20 circles with up to 15-ton pillars in them, and then cover them up with soil?

Klaus Schmidt thought he was into something great, and he certainly was, both in nearby Nevali Cori to start with, and then in Gobekli Tepe, but he doesn't seem to realize how great.


To me, those "temple" builders were ANGELS, and they were building astronomical sites similar to Stonehenge. They knew astronomy. They came here from the planet Rahab, now our Asteroid Belt. For some reason only known to them, keeping track of things in the heavens was supremely important to them. For them to go to all that trouble, it must have been for something more than just to determine the Vernal Equinox, the first day of spring, the time for planting seeds. That could have been determined by a lot less than what they built. They built about 20 circles, just at Gobekli Tepe, and there are a few stone rectangles with similar pillars at Nevali Cori. There are some at Karahan Tepe also.


National Geographic's Vincent J. Musi said, "Pillars at the temple of Gobekli Tepe-11,600 years old and up to 18 feet tall-may represent priestly dancers at a gathering. Note the hands above the loincloth-draped belt on the figure in the foreground." (

Vincent Musi doesn't understand either; 11,600 years ago was 9,586 B.C., 5,543 years before Adam was created in 4,043 BC. There was no Adamic man on Earth 11,600 years ago to build anything. We have the genealogy of man (Heb. adam) in the Bible. There is no way of getting around that. Now I know why I worked so hard on Bible Chronology. (

So who built Gobekli Tepe, Nevali Cori, Catel Hoyuk, Canyonu, Mureybet, Karahan Tepe, and 14 other abandoned ancient villages in, or near, the region of Anatolia, in Turkey? They were all in the general vicinity of the headwaters of the Tigris and Euphrates rivers, or their tributaries.

Were these the "angels which kept not their first estate (the planet Rahab, now our Asteroid Belt), but left their own habitation" that we read about in Jude 1:6? I think so.


I say, "Yes!" They left bones behind, generally buried beneath the floors of their dwellings, and they looked similar to mankind. At least nine sculls have been found that had plaster molded on them, then were painted to make them look like the angel that died. Three sculls with plaster on them are shown in National Geographic's video about Gobekli Tepe, but wait till later to view that. I'll give you the URL at the end.

Heb_13:2 says, "Be not forgetful to entertain strangers: for thereby some have entertained angels unawares."

Gen_18:1-3 says, "And the LORD (yehovah, i.e., the Angel of the LORD) appeared unto him (Abraham) in the plains of Mamre: and he sat in the tent door in the heat of the day; And he lift up his eyes and looked, and, lo, three men (iysh, male persons, not "adam," translated man) stood by him: and when he saw them, he ran to meet them from the tent door, and bowed himself toward the ground, And said, My Lord (adonay, proper name of God only), if now I have found favour in thy sight, pass not away, I pray thee, from thy servant".

Exo_3:2 says, "And the ANGEL OF THE LORD appeared unto him (i.e., Moses) in a flame of fire out of the midst of a bush: and he looked, and, behold, the bush burned with fire, and the bush was not consumed."

In Turkey, at other angel villages, and at Catal Hoyuk, 87 miles from the twin-coned volcano of Mount Hasan, we can tell that God created them male and female, and that they had children.

Catal Hoyuk is considered the best-preserved Neolithic site found to date. In July 2012, it was inscribed as a UNESCO World Heritage Site. Considered not the earliest, it has been dated 9,600 B.C to 5,700 B.C. by some, and 6,300 B.C. to 5,500 B.C. by others.

To me, it is very interesting to find out that it was abandoned when the auroch, wild cattle, became extinct as the so-called Chalcolithic (Copper) Age ended. That suggests that there was a catastrophe. I think that catastrophe was when God created the Moon at the time of Gen. 1:2.

Gen 1:1 says, "In the beginning God created the heaven and the earth."

That doesn't mention the Moon.

Gen 1:2 says, "And the earth was (hayah, became) without form (tohu, waste and desolation), and void (bohu, empty); and darkness was upon the face of the deep (tehom, an abyss, a surging mass of water, the main sea). And the Spirit of God moved upon the face of the waters."

I think that earth became an empty, waste and desolate place when God made the Moon out of existing materials that he blasted out of the Earth by means of an asteroid impact.


"Unequivocally Neolithic are three T-shaped pillars that have not been levered out of the bedrock. The biggest of them lies on the northern plateau. It has a length of 7 m (23 ft) and its head has a width of 3 m (10 ft). Its weight may be around 50 tons. The two other unfinished pillars lie on the southern Plateau." (

The angels expected to be able to quarry and move that 50-ton pillar. Gobekli Tepe is 2,493 ft above sea level. It is on a mountain top. There is no water, even though it's bedrock is limestone that had once been under water. Gut-wrenching steep inclines can be seen from there. What they were building had to be very important to them, and as far as I can see, only an astronomical observatory could merit that site.

At first, I was amazed at the carvings on the limestone pillars. One is even done "in the round."

Klaus Schmidt said that the limestone at Gobekle Tepe was hard. However, I found out that limestone is easy to quarry and work, because it is rather soft. Some can be cut with a knife. It hardens later when exposed to the air, and then it can even be polished.

Jerusalem limestone is that way too. Now I wonder how Jerusalem got all that limestone. Maybe it got it when the Lord created the Moon. It is not that far from Turkey. Both are in the fertile crescent.


That's why I asked Ed if there were female angels in Heaven when he visited me in his celestial body.

He said, "Yes!"

Those angels on Earth were male and female. They had children. The bone records show a high mortality rate for babies, but their mothers often died young, 27 or 30. Their bones show that they lifted heavy things. Maybe the females helped the males raise those 10 to 15-ton pillars.


Some part angel/part man giants in the Bible had six fingers, as did some of the builders of Gobekli Tepe and the Easter Island inhabitants.

This statue found at Gobekli Tepe represents an angel, because
he has six fingers, and was made before man was created.

2Sa_21:20 says, "And there was yet a battle in Gath, where was a man of great stature, that had on every hand six fingers, and on every foot six toes, four and twenty in number; and he also was born to the giant."

Num 13:32,33 says, "all the people that we saw in it are men of a great stature. 33 And there we saw the giants, the sons of Anak, which come of the giants".

Those giants were part angel/part man. At least one of the huge stone statues on Easter Island has six fingers, suggesting to me that angels carved them. It doesn't mean that all angels are giants, or that all giants have six fingers, but some six-figured giants were born when angels took human wives. The six-fingered trait does exist in angels.


Not all angels were prevented from living on Earth after Adam was created. 2 Peter 2:4 mentions "angels that sinned." To me, that means that the angels were tested. Sin needs to be defined.

2Pe_2:4 says, "God spared not the angels that sinned, but cast them down to hell, and delivered them into chains of darkness, to be reserved unto judgment".

Those that passed their test seem to be free at the present time. Satan is also free.

Rev. R.B. Thieme thought that the angels were judged, sentenced to prison, and then Satan appealed the sentence. Man was created a little lower than the angels. He could not see God. If man can still obey God, God would be proved just in consigning to prison the angels who disobeyed in spite of being able to see him. Thieme often mentioned what he called the Angelic Conflict.


In Ex_33:20, the Lord said, "Thou canst not see my face: for there shall no man see me, and live." That is why the Angel of the LORD appeared. Christ also appeared.

Joh_1:18 says, "No man hath seen God at any time; the only begotten Son, which is in the bosom of the Father, he hath declared him."

In John 10:30, Jesus said, "I and my Father are one." This is what we need to understand. The Father is in Christ.


Rev 22:1-5 says, "And he shewed me a pure river of water of life, clear as crystal, proceeding out of the throne (singular, one throne) of God and of the Lamb. 2 In the midst of the street of it, and on either side of the river, was there the tree of life, which bare twelve manner of fruits, and yielded her fruit every month: and the leaves of the tree were for the healing of the nations. 3 And there shall be no more curse: but the throne (singular) of God AND of the Lamb shall be in it; and his (singular) servants shall serve him (singular): 4 And they shall see his face (one face); and his name (one name) shall be in their foreheads. 5 And there shall be no night there; and they need no candle, neither light of the sun; for the Lord God giveth them light: and they shall reign for ever and ever."

Maybe the angel's final judgment will come after mankind is tested for a like period of time, roughly 6,000 years. 10,043 B.C. - 6000 years = 4,043 B.C., when Adam was created.

The 10,043 B.C. date is not far from Klaus Schmidt's date for the beginning of the settlement at Gobekli Tepe.

We know that Satan and one third of the angels will be cast out of heaven about Mid-Trib.

Rev 12:7-12 says, "there was war in heaven: Michael and his angels fought against the dragon; and the dragon fought and his angels, 8 And prevailed not; neither was their place found any more in heaven. 9 And the great dragon was cast out, that old serpent, called the Devil, and Satan, which deceiveth the whole world: he was cast out into the earth, and his angels were cast out with him. 10 And I heard a loud voice saying in heaven, Now is come salvation, and strength, and the kingdom of our God, and the power of his Christ: for the accuser of our brethren is cast down, which accused them before our God day and night. 11 And they overcame him by the blood of the Lamb, and by the word of their testimony; and they loved not their lives unto the death. 12 Therefore REJOICE, YE HEAVENS, AND YE THAT DWELL IN THEM (i.e., that sounds like the Rapture has just taken place Mid-Trib). Woe to the inhabiters of the earth and of the sea! for the devil is come down unto you, having great wrath, because he knoweth that he hath but a short time" (i.e., the shortened Great Tribulation).

Gen 6:1-4 says, "And it came to pass, when men began to multiply on the face of the earth, and daughters were born unto them, 2 That the sons of God (i.e., angels, Job 1:6,7) saw the daughters of men that they were fair; and they took them wives of all which they chose. 3 And the LORD said, My spirit shall not always strive with man, for that he also is flesh: yet his days shall be an hundred and twenty years. 4 There were giants in the earth in those days; and also after that, when the sons of God came in unto the daughters of men, and they bare children to them, the same became mighty men which were of old, men of renown."

That 120 years ran out at Noah's Flood. But, there was also a Flood when the Lord created the Moon.

Before that, when the angels disappeared from Gobekli Tepe, they disappeared from Easter Island. Now we can see why no angels live at either location today. I think the angels that left their own habitation were wiped out when God created the Moon, and that seems to be about 5,600 B.C.


At that time, it looks like an asteroid hit Earth and blasted the Moon material out of our Pacific Basin. All the minerals found on the Moon are also on Earth.

That blast threw limestone upon the mountains. It caused the Earth to rock and set off volcanoes world wide. The air became black. Lots of the Earth was covered with ash. Salt water poured into the fresh-water Black Sea then flooded Turkey. The Mediterranean also sloshed over Turkey, leaving gobs of sea bed scattered across the land. Volcanoes spewed ash over much of the land like icing on a cake.

That catastrophe was world-wide. Gen 1:2 says, "And the earth was (hayah, became) without form (tohu, waste and desolation), and void (bohu, an undistinguishable ruin); and darkness was upon the face of the deep."


That is where a lot of angel villages were located. One list I found had over 20 entries. I'm just scratching the surface here, but Gobekli Tepe is the most interesting of them all. There are snakes on some of the pillars, so Satan seems to have been involved.

It would have taken a long time for the Moon to coalesce and Earth to stabilize. Adam was not created until 4043 B.C.

Concerning Gobekli Tepe, "The site was deliberately backfilled sometime after 8000 BCE: the buildings were buried under debris, mostly flint gravel, stone tools, and animal bones that must have been imported from elsewhere.[28] In addition to Byblos points (weapon heads, i.e. arrowheads etc.) and numerous Nemrik points, Helwan-points and Aswad-points dominate the backfill's lithic inventory....So far, very little evidence for residential use has been found. Through the radiocarbon method, the end of Layer III can be fixed at c. 9000 BCE (see above) but it is believed that the elevated location may have functioned as a spiritual center c. 11,000 BCE or even earlier." (

To me, Gobekli Tepe was buried by the Lord when he dug the Moon material out of the Pacific Basin. This jarred globe reverberated and rocked. It probably turned upside down. It will turn upside down when the asteroid Wormwood hits Babylon.

Isa_24:1 says, "Behold, the LORD maketh the earth empty, and maketh it waste, and turneth it upside down, and scattereth abroad the inhabitants thereof."

We are being tried about 6,000 years. Maybe the angels were tried about 6,000 years too. 5,600 B.C. - 6,000 = 11,600 B.C. That fits what Schmidt thinks is a realistic date for Gobekli Tepe.

"The one-acre excavation covers less than 5 percent of the site. He says archaeologists could dig here for another 50 years and barely scratch the surface." (

To me, this seems to be the largest astronomical site on Earth, and it was built by angels.

Before Adam was created, the Lord "divideth (raga, tossed suddenly and violently) the sea (i.e., our Pacific Ocean) with his power, and by his understanding he smiteth through (machats, smashed) the proud" (Heb. RAHAB, Satan's planet, now our Asteroid Belt). Job 26:12

I believe Satan's planet Rahab was struck by a rock that split it apart and formed our Asteroid Belt. Mars was hit by a large piece of Rahab. That is when Mars probably lost her ocean. We can see the big black scar.

I think Earth was hit too. I think our Pacific Ocean was hit by a piece of Rahab so large that it scooped the Moon material out of the Pacific Basin, and dumped limestone scoured from the seabed upon the dry land in the region of Anatolia, in Turkey. Volcanos exploded all around the Ring of Fire and elsewhere. Several were in Turkey. They spread ash, breccia and tuff, consolidated volcanic ash, over some Turkish landscapes. Since then, wind and rain erosion have formed a fairyland of cones in some places in Turkey. They call them Fairy Chimneys.

"Local tradition refers to them as peri bacalari, the fire chimneys of the Peri - beautiful fallen angels born of Iblis, the Arab-Persian form of Satan." (

That's interesting that they mention Satan and fallen angels.

Turkey is a very earthquake-prone country. Ocean floor subduction along the Mediterranean Sea is still taking place in this country criss-crossed by active faults.

Cappadocia is covered with volcanic rock located near the fault intersections. Over 500 cinder cones made up of volcanic glass fragments have been mapped in the area. The "Fairy Chimneys" are astonishing features made up of pyroclastic deposits. Many people spend their vacations there just to see these unusual columns, towers, mushrooms, and cones firsthand. Many have been hollowed out for homes, businesses and hotels.

There are also 200 underground cities in Turkey.

The angels that left their habitation dwelt in Turkey. A statue of an angel with 6 fingers, and a 6-fingered hand carved on a pillar, were found at Gobekli Tepe. Not all angels had 6 fingers, but some did.

Jude 1:6 says, "And the angels which kept not their first estate, but left their own habitation, he hath reserved in everlasting chains under darkness unto the judgment of the great day."

On the great and terrible Day of the Lord, the Day of God's Wrath, the asteroid Wormwood will hit Babylon. A piece of it will probably split off at the Roche Limit and hit the NE Mediterranean Sea. A tsunami will wash Gog's army out of Israel's hair that day (Rev 8:8-11). Turkey may get hit by gobs of sea bed again. Damascus will cease to be a city.

Psa 110:5,6 says, "The Lord at thy right hand shall strike through kings in the day of his wrath. 6 He shall judge among the heathen, he shall fill the places with the dead bodies; he shall wound the heads over many countries."

Something similar happened to the angels who lived on Earth when the Lord created the Moon, maybe somewhere around 5,600 B.C., 1,557 years before he created Adam in 4043 B.C.

Gen 1:2 says, "And the earth was (hayah, became) without form (tohu, waste and desolation), and void (bohu, an empty ruin); and darkness was upon the face of the deep. And the Spirit of God moved upon the face of the waters."

Jer_4:25 says, "I beheld, and, lo, there was no man, and all the birds of the heavens were fled."


"In 1997, William Ryan and Walter Pitman published evidence that a massive flooding of the Black Sea occurred about 5600 BC through the Bosporus, following this scenario.[3] Before that date, glacial meltwater had turned the Black and Caspian Seas into vast freshwater lakes draining into the Aegean Sea. As glaciers retreated, some of the rivers emptying into the Black Sea declined in volume and changed course to drain into the North Sea.[4] The levels of the lakes dropped through evaporation, while changes in worldwide hydrology caused overall sea level to rise. The rising Mediterranean finally spilled over a rocky sill at the Bosporus. The event flooded 155,000 km2 (60,000 sq mi) of land and significantly expanded the Black Sea shoreline to the north and west. According to the researchers, '40 km3 (10 cu mi) of water poured through each day, two hundred times what flows over Niagara Falls... The Bosporus flume roared and surged at full spate for at least three hundred days." (

Water not only flowed into Turkey from the Black Sea. It flowed in from the Aegean Sea and the Mediterranean Sea. Lots of water flooded Turkey as the earth rocked back and forth.

Why Turkey? You already know my answer to that. I believe that before Adam was created, there were villages in Turkey where angels lived. The angels may have left their planet, Rahab, and come to earth about 11,600 B.C. It looks like their civilization was ended about 6,000 years later, somewhere around 5,600 B.C.

It also seems that the Moon was created around 5,600 B.C.

These cities seem to have been built by the angels about that time: Hallan Cemi, Gobekli Tepe, Nevali Cori, Catal Hoyuk (they used copper there), Canyonu, Gurcu Tepe, Hacilar, Hallan Cemi, and Mureybet.

We are being tried about 6,000 years. Maybe the angels were tried about 6,000 years too. 5,600 B.C. + 6,000 = 11,600 B.C. That fits what Schmidt thinks is a realistic date for Gobekli Tepe.

Because of the 26,000 year Precession of the Equinoxes, Sirius seems to go up and down. It was not visible in the 12th millennium B.C. According to Robert Bauval, the rising of Sirius began to be seen in 10,500 B.C. I think that the rising of Sirius may have been one of the things that was being recorded at Gobekli Tepe.

The pyramid at Giza will be 5776 inches tall when the capstone is installed. To me, that stone represents Jesus.

Psa_118:22 says, "The stone which the builders refused is become the head stone of the corner."

Isa_28:16 says, "Therefore thus saith the Lord GOD, Behold, I lay in Zion for a foundation a stone, a tried stone, a precious corner stone, a sure foundation: he that believeth shall not make haste."

Mat_21:42 says, "Jesus saith unto them, Did ye never read in the scriptures, The stone which the builders rejected, the same is become the head of the corner: this is the Lord's doing, and it is marvellous in our eyes?"

Mar_12:10 says, "And have ye not read this scripture; The stone which the builders rejected is become the head of the corner".

Luk_20:17 says, "And he beheld them, and said, What is this then that is written, The stone which the builders rejected, the same is become the head of the corner?"

Act_4:11 says, "This is the stone which was set at nought of you builders, which is become the head of the corner."

Eph_2:20 says, "And are built upon the foundation of the apostles and prophets, Jesus Christ himself being the chief corner stone".

1Pe_2:6 says, "Wherefore also it is contained in the scripture, Behold, I lay in Sion a chief corner stone, elect, precious: and he that believeth on him shall not be confounded."

1Pe_2:7 says, "Unto you therefore which believe he is precious: but unto them which be disobedient, the stone which the builders disallowed, the same is made the head of the corner".

I think Jesus will return April 6, 2016, Nisan 1, 5776, the first day of the Jubilee, Regnal and Sacred year.

The Jubilee Year has to be preceded by a Sabbatical Year, and 5775 is a Sabbatical Year.

You can watch a video about Gobekli Tepe from the History Channel (8 mins 20), and the much longer video by National Geographic.

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