Pro and Con 18

Email Forwarded to me, Re: The Tabernacle Curtains

Marilyn: have you any thouhts on the meaning of this?
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> >From: <"LaSarge, Paul A">
> >To: <'heb_roots_chr@mail.geocities.com'>
> >Hi Eddie,
> >
> >Is there any correlation between the five wise and five foolish virgins
> >representing the entire body of Christ as you've outlined in your book
> >"Who is the Bride of Christ?"" and Exodus 26:1-3 as it is written,
> >"Moreover thou shalt make the tabernacle with TEN CURTAINS of fine
> >twined linen, and blue, and purple, and scarlet: with cherubims of
> >cunning work shalt thou make them. The length of one curtain shall be
> >eight and twenty cubits, and the breadth of one curtain four cubits: and
> >every one of the curtains shall have one measure. The FIVE curtains
> >shall be COUPLED TOGETHER one to another; and OTHER FIVE curtains shall
> >be COUPLED one to another."
> >
> >If there IS, would you expand on and explain the parallel?
> >
> >>From Eddie:
> >
> > I never thought about this parallel. It is very interesting.
> >Maybe our members have some thoughts on the tabernacle
> >curtains being FIVE and FIVE
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My reply

I see no connection between the wise and foolish virgins and the tabernacle curtains other than that there were ten virgins and ten curtains and both were grouped into two sets of five.

The tabernacle represented things in the heavens. Hebrews 8:2,5 shows that the tabernacle was "the example and shadow of heavenly things." Isa. 40:22 says that it is God "that stretcheth out the heavens AS A CURTAIN, and spreadeth them out AS A TENT to dwell in." He dwells in this tent.

The ten curtains had cherubim embroidered on them to show that they represented the ten original planets, whose orbits are as if a wheel within a wheel. Ezekiel 1:13 says, "their appearance was like burning coals of fire, and like the appearance of lamps." We know one of the four that Ezekiel saw represented the Earth for Ezekiel 1:15 says, "one wheel upon the earth." When "the heavens were opened" (Ezek 1:1), he saw the terrestrial planets surrounded by a donut shaped cloud that represented the Asteroid Belt. In the center was the amber sun, "a fire infolding itself," and sunlight was about it. (Ezek. 1:4).

The ten original planets were Mercury, Mars, Venus, Earth, Rahab (Satan's planet that split apart and formed the Asteroid Belt), Jupiter, Saturn, Uranus, Neptune and Pluto.

The way the curtains were grouped into two sets of five each was to separate the inner terrestrial planets (including Rahab) from the outer planets, the next four of which are giants. The way the curtains were placed over the boards of the tabernacle, the one representing Earth happened to be the one that bent over the back corner. Thus, we have Psa. 118:22 saying of Christ, "The stone which the builders refused is become the head stone of the corner," i.e., he will rule over Earth during his Millennial Kingdom.

Heaven is the rock spoken of in Psa. 27:4: "For in the time of trouble (Jacob's) he shall hide me (at the time of the Rapture of the Tribulation saints) in his pavilion: IN THE SECRET OF HIS TABERNACLE shall he hide me; he shall set me up upon a rock." When you unravel the secret of his tabernacle, you find out which rock the saints will be taken to.

Incoming Email, Re: So excited I found YOU!

Greetings in the Name of our Precious Lord & Savior, Yeshua haMashiach!!! I am so excited I found you on the Web (WWW = 666 in Hebrew letters) as I have been hoping to let you know how much you & your book, "The End of the Age", have meant to me. I didn't know about "Heaven Found", so it is a must for my library and reading.

Since finding your book in a large chain bookstore [the Christian bookstores don't carry it here because you "set dates"], I have given copies to whom ever will accept them, though I have not kept count, I'd say close to 20 copies. I gave one to Hal Lindsey at his 1995 Seattle conference, mailed one to Stan Johnson of the Prophecy Club out of Topeka KS (hoping you could be included in their speaking tours), and on Aug 12th this year, offered one to Bob Wadsworth after his speaking engagement for the Prophecy Club. At first, Bob said he couldn't pack another item with him even though he said he knew you, has email contact with you, but had not read your book. I quit insisting, then he capitulated and grabbed the book to take with him!!! I am praying it has the impact on him that it had on me. His work is also from the Lord - He does not do anything lest He reveals it to His prophets ... all things are in the Word and His creation is a witness!

Praise the Lord for His work in you! From your opening statements for the reader to call on the Holy Spirit for understanding, and your acknowledgment of His guidence in your understanding and writing, I knew the book was from the Lord. This is rare to find; of the many books I've read, the authors do not go to God in prayer in the published copy. Also, 20 years ago when the Lord quickened an excitement in me for His Return, I briefly studied the Word ... your outline matches my understanding of events! I believe the controversy over the timing of the Rapture is caused by "multiple" raptures, as Paul said that "every man in his own order" I Cor 15:22-23.

This spring I discovered a wonderful book by Joseph Good, 1989, Hatikva Ministries, PO Box 3125 Port Arthur TX 77643-3125, titled "Rosh HaShanah and the Messianic Kingdom to Come", which I pray the Lord will lead you to read. An understanding of the Feasts of the Lord is critical to understanding God's Plan for man and creation. I have read several books on the feast days, but this is like yours, excellent! Mr Good is the only other one I have found who agrees with your assessment of the significance of June 7, 1967!!!!!!!! See Chapter 7, page 98.

Combining the feast days, the constellations and "signs" in the heavens, and the Word with a love for the Lord and sincere desire to know Him and His truth; these are the keys to the meanings and timings of His actions to redeem us to be with Him!

My reply

It is wonderful to get email when someone is "excited" to find my Web page. Thanks for all the kind things you said, and the Lord bless you for giving my books to people. I sent a MSS copy of Exit: 2007 to Hal Lindsey and asked him if he would want to write a Forward. He did not even answer. I also told him that 1988 was too soon and why. He paid no attention until after 1988 passed without a special end-time event taking place. Now, he just might pay more attention than he did then. He is now counting the 40 years from 1967, which is what I told him in the first place.

I'm not sure I'm glad to find that WWW = 666. I had not thought of that, but in Hebrew, it does. In Greek, it does not. BTW, the outer guard bars and the first data character next to the center bar in our barcodes also = 666. Six is our universal computer code for international communications too.

I think people differ on when the Rapture is to take place because there are two Raptures. The first trump of the Bible sounded at Sinai on Pentecost. That fits the first Rapture. Exodus 19:13-20 says, "when the trumpet soundeth long, they shall come up to the mount....And it came to pass on the third day in the morning, that there were thunders and lightnings, and a thick cloud upon the mount, and the voice of the trumpet exceeding loud...And Moses brought forth the people out of the camp to meet with God...And the LORD called Moses up to the top of the mount; and Moses went up."

Then on the Feast of Trumpets another Rapture takes place. This one is on the first day of the Millennium (also the 2300th day of the Shortened Tribulation, Dan. 8:14), after Christ receives his golden crown, after the Marriage of the Lamb has taken place and right before the Judgment Seat of Christ convenes. The Marriage Supper of the Lamb follows the judgment.

Email Forwarded to me, Re: End time prophecies

I discovered your book, "The End of the Age" in an airport about 3 years ago. I was immediately drawn to the book and have been fascinated by your research on the topic. I am a Sunday School teacher and we are currently conducting a home study on prophecy using Tim LaHaye's "How to Study Bible Prophecy for Yourself" and your book.

I noticed in your book there is no information about you. Could you give me some information on yourself and we also had questions about the Rapture. The bible seems to have an enormous amount of scripture dedicated to the 2nd Coming of Christ, ( Touchdown, I think you refer to it) , why so little direct information on the Rapture itself and how can we know that it will actually occur seeing there is so much debate regarding pretribulation, midtribulation rapture and no rapture at all. Some believe the church will go through the tribulation. Can you shed some definitive information on the proof in scripture regarding it.

Also we are concerned that some of the church will be left behind even though they are Christians, at the first rapture. I think you mentioned the parables of the virgins and also the vineyard that Christ mentioned. How about the lukewarm christians mentioned in Revelation? Any light you could shed would be appreciated!

Also (I know this is a lot to ask) but could we call you on a conference call during one of our studies and ask you some questions on prophecy?

I thank God for this valuable information you have provided in your books, it has changed on perspectives on the urgency that we shoud take as believers. God Bless!

My reply

I appreciate your kind remarks. I go as deep into the meaning of Scripture as I possible can. I have a built in need to know.

Here is some information about me: (BIO omitted as it is already on Pro and Con)

Have you visited my Web site? There are more reasons there why the Rapture should take place on Pentecost in 1998. Check out the correlation between the 19 year olds going into the promised land 40 years later. Israel became a nation in 1948. Nineteen years later, she put forth leaves in the Six-Day War of 1967. Forty years after that, in the Jewish 5768, I expect her to again go into the promised land. Truly, the Lord "made known his ways unto Moses, his acts unto the children of Israel" (Psalm 103:7).

The fact that 19 year olds are were considered the young and those 20 and up were considered the older generation when they came out of Egypt fits the fig tree parable in Mt. 24. "When his branch is yet tender ('apalos,' young, i.e., 19 and no older), and putteth forth leaves (which she did when 19 in the Six-Day War), ye know that summer is nigh (the War was June 5, summer June 21): So likewise ye, when ye shall see all these things, know that it (the Rapture) is near, even at the doors (symbol of the two Raptures, one Pre-Trib, the other Pre-Wrath)."

The first door opens in Rev. 3:8 for the first foot of the Body of Christ to be born into a new world. The second foot will be born into Heaven as the Millennium begins. The first foot is the Bride of Christ, "the FIRST of the firstfruits of thy land thou shalt bring into the house of the LORD thy God" on Pentecost (Exodus 23:16-19). The first trumpet of the Bible sounded at Sinai on Pentecost.

Also, check out the 2300 days of Daniel 8:14 that are now left to us. A chart is on my Web page. We are running out of options. There is now only one time within the 40 years since the Sign of the End of the Age that there are 2300 days between the Feast of Weeks at the beginning of the Tribulation and the Feast of Trumpets that begins the Millennium. If the Rapture is to be on Pentecost Sunday. There is now only one left. I think we are now pretty well locked into a certain date for the Rapture, Pentecost, 1998, and 2001-2007 for the Tribulation.

The reason it is not easy to figure out the time of the Rapture is because the Lord did not want the time known until the last days and also because there are two Raptures. Some argue that it is on Pentecost. Others say it is on the Feast of Trumpets. Some think it is before the Tribulation. Others think it is at the end of the Tribulation just before the Wrath of God is poured out. Actually, this is because there are two Raptures. The first, for the Bride of Christ, is on Pentecost before the Tribulation. The second, for the remainder of the Body of Christ, is on the Feast of Trumpets just before the Wrath of God is poured out later on that same day.

The first is represented by the Rapture of the Gentile Enoch and is as the days of Noah, where marriage is listed (Luke 17:27). All that went into the Ark were married. Even the animals were in pairs. The second is represented by the Rapture of the Israelite Elijah and is as the days of Lot. No marriage is listed and fire fell that same day (Luke 17:29).

At the first Rapture, the Philadelphians will be caught up and most of the Laodiceans will be left behind. They are Christians for they have to be in the Body of Christ to be spewed out of his mouth. The Philadelphians love the Lord and have the open door set before them (Rev. 3:8). The Laodiceans are lukewarm and face a closed door (Rev. 3:20). There must be a love relationship between a bride and bridegroom. What groom would opt for a lukewarm wife over one that loves him dearly?

We are supposed to be watching for the Lord. The Jews stay up all night on Pentecost. The Laodiceans will be watching the next time if they have not been martyred during the Tribulation. They will have washed their robes in the blood of the Lamb too (Rev. 7:14). That means that they will have confessed their sins and are back in fellowship with the Lord. One of the attributes of God is love, and if we are filled with his Holy Spirit, we are filled with his agape love. The Laodiceans will find this out when they confess their sins.

The first Rapture takes place in Rev. 4:1. The second group is seen in Heaven in Rev. 7:14. Between the two events is Rev. 6. It starts with the Beast riding forth on a white horse as a prince of peace at the beginning of the Tribulation. It ends with "For the great day of his wrath is come." That is the day of Rapture two, just before the wrath is poured out. Rapture two takes place between the breaking of the sixth seal in Rev. 6:12 and the breaking of the seventh seal in Rev. 8:1. The following wrath is described in Rev. 8, when the trumpet judgments take place.

If arranged ahead of time, I can take a conference call. Most of the time, I prefer to write because I can take time to look up and list the exact Biblical proof. Otherwise, it is my words, my opinion. We can only trust the Bible completely.

The main message I want to get across is that if there is a possibility of the Rapture taking place on Pentecost, l998, we only have a few months to make sure we are ready ourselves and to tell those we may be able to influence to get ready too. At the time of the Rapture, there will be no time to go get more oil of the Holy Spirit. We are told to be filled with the Holy Spirit, and we should be sure that we are.

Incoming Email

I have a question, what about all of the nominal christians in the past? I wonder what their status will be. I know, they will not be raptured like the last generation, but what about rewards? Will they have been blessed, by not having gone through the tribulation?

My reply

You pose a hard question, and I do not want to be dogmatic about this, but I will give you my opinion.

Not only is God omnipotent, omnipresent, omniscient, love, etc., he is perfect justice. They will not have to go through The Tribulation, but they will gave gone through some tribulation in their lifetime to test them. We all have tribulation, are tested, and are chastized during our lifetime.

Just because these "nominal christians" lived and died before the Rapture does not put them into a group where they do not belong. All believers are in the Body of Christ. If they belong in the Bride of Christ, they will be called out of the first group. If not, they will remain in the Body of Christ.

Esther was a type of the wise virgins who will be chosen as the Bride of Christ. When Esther was in the "house of the women," she did not go in to the king until she was "called by name" (Esther 2:14).

"And the king loved Esther above all the women, and she obtained grace and favour in his sight more than all the virgins: so that he set the royal crown upon her head, and made her queen instead of Vashti" (who had "refused to come at the king's commandment" (Esther 1:12).

To finish the picture, after that, "the virgins were gathered together the second time" (i.e., when the foolish virgins are gathered at Rapture II) (Esther 2:19). I hope this helps.

Incoming Email

I was pleased to see the Fax of from the Rabbi. You may recall that I had put forward this same 30 and up to 50 info from Numbers 4:10 on my Web since last spring. I was glad to see such a strong confirmation for this idea, as coming from a group of Rabbi.

The time is really short....

A few other tid bits of interest.

The catholic(Roman ) church is considering making The Virgin Mary a co-redeemer with Christ. The petition of more the 4 million members came from all countries.

Also the favored Man to be the next Pope is Jean Marie Lustiger Archbishop of Paris. Very charismatic fellow. Well liked by many. Enteresting point is He is a Messianic Jew. This means that he is the first Pope in History to be possibly mistaken as the messiah by the Jews, because they will only accept a Jewish Messiah.

Also, Mondex Corp, and Mastercard is intoducing a huge campaign in promote cashless money in Canada as well as Korea and several cities in the US. Several Banks in Canada have anounced that they will be taking cash in and issuing only credit out to the new SET MARC system. They expect to have a full implimentation of Bio-implants within the year. Set is an accronim for Secured Electronic Transaction. Set also is the Name of the Pagan god of the Egyptians who was the same as Satan. The Bio implant system is called the Marc, and is being advertised as the money of the future....

I am sharing this rather weird anomaly with you (the following)...because I would like some feedback from you and would be interested to see if you also have heard of such an anomaly.

I received a letter with a mathematical expression in it. The letter was not signed and no return address. I have played with these numbers all day and night and have found some rather interesting things in the sequence.

I may jump around a bit with this because it is hard to explain. Please bear with me:

The number of the beast is 666. The beast will loose 1/3 (33.3%) of his kingdom from the very start as Judgments fall on it. This leaves him with 66.6 % of the world.

God is identified as 777 and there is another number I don't know what it signifies but I think it means completeness 999

Take a date for example 1960
Multiply it by 666= 1305360
add the last three digits to the first 4 digits
1305 + 360 = 1665
Now repeat by multiplying the new number by 999
1665 x 999= 1663335
Add the last 3 digits to the first 4
1998.
Now before we go further, I think this date represents the year in which the Antichrist will assume his 7 year reign. Probably at Pentecost.

Take any date from 1332 and use this process.
Here are a few more as examples:
1990 x 666= 1325340=1665x999=1663335=1998
1991 x 666= 1326006=1332x999=1330668=1998
or 1332x777= 1998

1992 x 666= 1326672= 1998
1993 x 666= 1327338=1665x999=1663335=1998
or 1665x777=1293705=1998

As you go on down through the date you find a new pattern appears. In the first interim number (date x 666) you come up with :
1665
1332
1998
1665
1332
1998
ect.
So I did some research into the dates 1332 and 1665. These proved to be very interesting

1332 and the years around it:
The Black plague kills 1/3 of the population.
This disease is blamed on the Jews.( because they didn't eat pork and cooked things kosher)
But the people of the earth began a holocaust against the Jews thinking they were poisoning the Gentiles. I believe this was a lie from Satan to once again destroy the Jews.

This time also was when Islamic faith spread like wildfire across the east.

1665:
This was the beginning of the process of scientific thought. Deism was started, which is the belief that God has nothing to do with the workings of creation and that all things can be discovered by scientific observation. Science became the new Apostate religion. John Locke became a major influence in the world. Modern philosophy took hold. I has 4 major branches
1. metaphysics, the study of the essence of true power, and was the beginning of transadentalism.
2. Epistemology, The study of Origins. the beginning of Evolution
3. Ethics, study of Morals and judgment. Was the beginning of Hedonism, and the sexual revolution that resulted in the puritan movement.
4. Aesthetics, the study of nature and beauty. It set man as the most glorious of all things created.

It was also the beginning of the founding of the USA.

All of these 1665 things seem like the beginning of Modern Babylon.

Now back to the dates. As you go through the dates a few stand out:
1998 x 666=1330668=1998 beginning of the 7 years
1999 x 666= 1331334=1665 Note the following the 1665 date when multiplied by
666,777or999 will always come up to 1998.
2000 x 666= 1332000=1332 x 999 =1998 I think that this number 1332 000 indicates a plague is going to break out.
20001 x 666 =1332666. This is the year that we figure to be when the Antichrist will demand worship and will set himself up in the new temple. the middle of the tribulation
1332 means the plague or persecution and 666 the Antichrist. Add them together =1998
Now, we believe that the second coming will occur in 2004 and that 7 months after that the Millenial kingdom will begin. This will be the 1000 years that there is still natural humans on the earth and the Jews will have preeminence in the world ruling under Christ.

NOTE: We disagree on dates. I (Marilyn Agee) expect the Tribulation to begin on the Feast of Weeks in 2001, the Millennium to begin 2300 days later, on Tishri 1, 5768, our September 13, 2007, and the Second Coming seven months after that on Nisan 1, 5768, our April 6, 2008.

On our dates the years from 2003 on begin to show up a new interim number. instead of 1332 we start getting 2331 which is the inverse or opposite of the number1332. 2331 x 777 =1998

This pattern of numbers continues through the thousand years and changes again as you go into the years after 2999. This is the time after all human types are gone, Satan has been thrown into the lake of fire and only glorified people live on the earth. It will be like the Garden of Eden again.

All of this may just be a curiosity, but the Lord gave us "the number of his name is 666 let those with wisdom understand."

It seems that dates that fall under his Antichrists Satans authority can be identified with 666 and can be resolved to the time of the fullness of his power in 1998. Its like God set us a marker to find. Years that will be under the direction of the Lord resolve with a different set of numbers 777 and the opposite of 1332 that is 2331. I have taken this equation a great deal farther than the letter that was sent to me. Maybe you will be able to see things that I have not.

Please let me know what you think

My reply

Thanks for the information. I have been meaning to post something about the MARC, but have not had time....

For more amazing info on the number 1998, contact:
Bob Ware
727 West Putnam Ave.
Porterville, CA 93257

His reply

...I have figured some more interesting points on that 1998 number thing. All very interesting. You and I do not agree on the Pentecost date as you know. To me that is the second choice date, the first and primary date being Rosh HaShannah Oct. 2 or at least during this fall's feast days. Either way we don't have long, Bless His holy name. I really enjoy the Pro and Con items and your way of handling peoples questions. I know it takes a great deal of time. Thank you for it.

My reply

Re: 1998. Besides, Bob Ware, Mr. Kuek in Kuala Lumpur, Malaysia and James Harrison ("The Pattern and the Prophecy") found lots having to do with 1998, as well as other rather startling patterns in numbers.

As you say, we are not far apart on the Rapture. We both know that it will fall on a feast day for they are moedim, set appointments, rehearsals.

Here is some food for thought:

I think Rev. 1:10 indicates that the Rapture is on Sunday. We have one more Sunday Pentecost, May 31, 1998.

How about the Feast of Trumpets?

In 1997, it falls on Thursday. In 1998, it falls on Monday. In 2000, it falls on Saturday. In 2001, it falls on Tuesday. In 2002, it falls on Saturday. In 2003, it falls on Saturday. In 2004, it falls on Thursday. In 2005, it falls on Tuesday. In 2006, it falls on Saturday. In 2007, it falls on Thursday. There aren't any on Sunday before the 40 years since the Sign of the End of the Age are up. In fact, I went through every year I have copies of and did not find one single Tishri 1 on Sunday.

My heartfelt thanks to all who like my Web Site. God's wonderful blessings on you all. May we meet at the assembly in Heaven right after the Rapture.

In Christ,
Marilyn
(Mrs.) Marilyn J. Agee


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