Pro and Con 1802
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I hope you and your son are doing ok. I just read your letter on Five Doves this morning and the book of 1 Enoch, Enoch explains the departure, the falling away, the apostasia is referring to those who leave the church and are led astray by those who have corrupted the teachings of God. God bless
We're ok. Between the doctor freezing the skin cancer on my nose one more time, and my taking a Chitin Inhibiter, Grapefruit Seed Extract, and Acidophilus, the skin cancer on my nose is gone. Thank you, Lord, that I didn't have to have surgery on my nose like I had on my neck. In Jesus' name, Amen.
My back is not well, but better....
> > Enoch explains the departure, the falling away, the apostasia is referring to those who leave the church and are led astray by those who have corrupted the teachings of God.
Where does Enoch explain the departure and the falling away?
Gen 5:22-25 says, "And Enoch walked with God after he begat Methuselah three hundred years, and begat sons and daughters: 23 And all the days of Enoch were three hundred sixty and five years: 24 And Enoch walked with God: and he was not; for God took him."
Heb_11:5 says, "By faith Enoch was translated that he should not see death; and was not found, because God had translated him: for before his translation he had this testimony, that he pleased God."
The Book of Enoch, written about 300 BC, says,
1 The words of the blessing of Enoch, wherewith he blessed the elect and righteous, who will be
2 living in the day of tribulation, when all the wicked and godless are to be removed. And he took up his parable and said -Enoch a righteous man, whose eyes were opened by God, saw the vision of the Holy One in the heavens, which the angels showed me, and from them I heard everything, and from them I understood as I saw, but not for this generation, but for a remote one which is
3 for to come. Concerning the elect I said, and took up my parable concerning them:
The Holy Great One will come forth from His dwelling,
4 And the eternal God will tread upon the earth, (even) on Mount Sinai,
[And appear from His camp]
And appear in the strength of His might from the heaven of heavens.
5 And all shall be smitten with fear
And the Watchers shall quake,
And great fear and trembling shall seize them unto the ends of the earth.
6 And the high mountains shall be shaken,
And the high hills shall be made low,
And shall melt like wax before the flame
7 And THE EARTH SHALL BE WHOLLY RENT IN SUNDER,
And all that is upon the earth shall perish,
And there shall be a judgement upon all (men).
8 But with the righteous He will make peace.
And will protect the elect,
And mercy shall be upon them.
And they shall all belong to God,
And they shall be prospered,
And they shall all be blessed.
And He will help them all,
And light shall appear unto them,
And He will make peace with them'.
9 And behold! He cometh with ten thousands of His holy ones
To execute judgement upon all,
And to destroy all the ungodly:
And to convict all flesh
Of all the works of their ungodliness which they have ungodly committed,
And of all the hard things which ungodly sinners have spoken against Him.
Note: Isa 5:25-27 says, "For all this his anger is not turned away, but his hand is stretched out still. 26 And he will lift up an ensign to the nations from far, and will hiss unto them from the end of the earth: and, behold, they shall come with speed swiftly: 27 None shall be weary nor stumble among them; none shall slumber nor sleep; neither shall the girdle of their loins be loosed, nor the latchet of their shoes be broken".
SEVEN ENGLISH BIBLES OLDER THAN THE KJV SAID DEPARTING IN 2 TH 2:3
Jim Bramlett said,
"In Emil Gaverluk's book, "The Rapture before the Russian invasion of Israel," pages 173-177, the author has actual copies of original pages of seven major pre-KJV English versions of the Bible that show the Greek word apostasia translated as "departing first." For examples, the following Bibles translate 2 Thessalonians 2:3 as shown:
" 1. Wycliffe Bible (1330) has "departynge first"
" 2. Tyndale Bible (1525/26) has "departynge first"
" 3. Coverdale Bible 1535) has "departynge first"
" 4. Crammer Bible (1539) has "departynge first"
" 5. Geneva Bible (1560) has "departing first"
" 6. Breeches Bible (1583) has "departing first"
" 7. Beza Bible (1583) has "departing first"
"Thanks to Marilyn Agee for those dates above and also for the following which shows other verses where the verb form of apostasia is defined as "departure":
" 2 Timothy 2:19 says, "Nevertheless the foundation of God standeth sure, having this seal, The Lord knoweth them that are his. And, Let every one that nameth the name of Christ DEPART from iniquity."
" 1 Timothy 6:5 says, "Perverse disputings of men of corrupt minds, and destitute of the truth, supposing that gain is godliness: from such WITHDRAW thyself."
" 2 Corinthians 12:8 says, "For this thing I besought the Lord thrice, that it might DEPART from me."
" Acts 12:10 says, "When they were past the first and the second ward, they came unto the iron gate that leadeth unto the city; which opened to them of his own accord: and they went out, and passed on through one street; and forthwith the angel DEPARTED from him."
" Luke 4:13 says, "And when the devil had ended all the temptation, he DEPARTED from him for a season."
"If "departing" is the correct translation of apostasia as those seven pre-KJV translations indicate, and as other uses of the word in the New Testament indicate, we have a totally different understanding of 2 Thessalonians 2:3, and it appears that nothing else has to happen before our "departing," glory to God!
In spite of the Beza Bible (1583) having "departing first," Theodore Beza was the first to transliterate apostasia and create a new word rather than translate it. The King James Version was the first to pick up on that and render apostasia as "falling away," ignoring what the English Bibles published previously said.
For me, departing makes more sense than falling away. There has always been apostasy. How could we pick out a certain period of apostasy? I expect the Rapture soon. Is there any special apostasy today that would show us that the Rapture is imminent? When the Rapture takes place, the whole world will probably find out about it right away. There will be weeping and gnashing of teeth.
7. Beza Bible (1583) has "departing first".
Later, Beza was the first to transliterate rather than translate "he apostasia." The King James Version was the first to pick up on that and say, "2Th 2:3 Let no man deceive you by any means: for that day shall not come, except there come A FALLING AWAY first, and that man of sin be revealed, the son of perdition".
TO ME, "HE APOSTASIA" MEANS THE DEPARTURE, I.E., THE RAPTURE, OUR BEING GATHERED TO JESUS
It is unfortunate, but the KJV has two mistakes in 2 Th 2:1-5. The "day of Christ" should be "day of the Lord" and "a falling away" should be "a departing".
2Th 2:1-5 (KJV) says, "Now we beseech you, brethren, by the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ, and by our gathering together unto him (i.e., at the First-Trump Rapture), 2 That ye be not soon shaken in mind, or be troubled, neither by spirit, nor by word, nor by letter as from us, as that the day of Christ (i.e., should be Day of the Lord) is at hand. 3 Let no man deceive you by any means: for that day shall not come, except there come a falling away first, and that man of sin be revealed, the son of perdition; 4 Who opposeth and exalteth himself above all that is called God, or that is worshipped; so that he as God sitteth in the temple of God, shewing himself that he is God. 5 Remember ye not, that, when I was yet with you, I told you these things?"
2 Thess 2:1-5 (NIV) says, "Concerning the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ and our being gathered to him, (i.e., at the First-Trump Rapture) we ask you, brothers and sisters, 2 not to become easily unsettled or alarmed by the teaching allegedly from us—whether by a prophecy or by word of mouth or by letter—asserting that the day of the Lord (i.e., Day of God's Wrath, day of the Last-Trump Rapture) has already come. 3 Don't let anyone deceive you in any way, for that day will not come until the rebellion ("HE APOSTASIA", the First-Trump Rapture) occurs and the man of lawlessness is revealed, the man doomed to destruction. 4 He will oppose and will exalt himself over everything that is called God or is worshiped, so that he sets himself up in God's temple, proclaiming himself to be God. 5 Don't you remember that when I was with you I used to tell you these things?"
2 Thess 2:1-5 (HNV) says, "Now, brothers, concerning the coming of our Lord Yeshua the Messiah, and our gathering together to him, we ask you not to be quickly shaken in your mind, nor yet be troubled, either by spirit, or by word, or by letter as from us, saying that the day of Messiah had come. Let no one deceive you in any way. For it will not be, unless THE DEPARTURE COMES FIRST, and the man of sin is revealed, the son of destruction, he who opposes and exalts himself against all that is called God or that is worshiped; so that he sits as God in the temple of God, setting himself up as God. Don't you remember that, when I was still with you, I told you these things?"
The "day of Messiah" is the Day of Christ, the First-Trump Rapture (I Thess 4:16,17). The Last-Trump Rapture (I Cor 15:51-54) is on the great and terrible Day of the Lord (Rev. 6:17; 7:9-14).
Rev 11:1-3 says, "And there was given me a reed like unto a rod: and the angel stood, saying, RISE (i.e., in the First-Trump Rapture, the 'Come up hither' of Rev. 4:1), and measure the temple of God (we are the Temple of the Holy Spirit), and the altar, and them that worship therein. 2 But the court which is without the temple leave out, and measure it not; for it is given unto the Gentiles: and the holy city shall they tread under foot forty and two months. 3 And I will give power unto my two witnesses (i.e., Moses and Elijah), and they shall prophesy a thousand two hundred and threescore days, clothed in sackcloth."
We can know that the "COME UP HITHER" of Rev. 4:1 and the "RISE" of Rev. 11:1 are talking about the same Rapture, because in Rev. 10:10,11, John wrote: "And I took the little book out of the angel's hand, and ate it up; and it was in my mouth sweet as honey: and as soon as I had eaten it, my belly was bitter. 11 And he said unto me, Thou must prophesy AGAIN before many peoples, and nations, and tongues, and kings."
The Last-Trump Rapture is in Rev 11:12. It says, "And they (i.e., Moses and Elijah) heard a great voice from heaven saying unto them, COME UP HITHER. And they ascended up to heaven in a cloud; and their enemies beheld them."
The 1260 days between the two Raptures shows us that the first Rapture is Mid-Trib. I'm hoping for Ascension Day, May 29, 2014. The last Rapture is on the Day of God's Wrath just before the asteroid Wormwood hits Earth. The Great Tribulation is to be shortened. As far as I can see, it looks like it will be shortened a lot, or no flesh would be saved. Agape
INCOMING EMAIL, RE: The seven seals
You are taking the Word literal, According to Ezekiel 47 there are five levels of depth to the Word of God.
The fires level is the surface level; the first level is the literal that you are teaching. The further out you go the deeper the water gets.
Yahshua taught depth He did not come teaching the surface level of the Law like the Jews did. The Jews built everything upon the surface including the temple they took forty six years to build. Yahshua tried to get them to see the greater depth, but they were also blinded to the truth.
Truth has always offended people, because they cannot stand to be told they are wrong.
All seven churches of Revelation are still with us today, under new name but the same spirit. Therefore according to Zechariah 13:8-9, only one-third of all who claims Christ as Lord and savior will be saved. Two-thirds of all who claims Christ as Lord and savior will be cut off to die. What most people do not realize is that: according to Ezekiel 47: there are five levels of depth to the Word of God and most of the people who claims Christ as Lord and savior are building their houses upon the surface level. Sand is only a ground covering meaning the surface. Christ did not teach the law like the Jews did, but He taught depth, Christ spoke only what the Father told Him to speak. When the churches that is the say the denominations and non denominations alike gets into some depth of the Word of God, Christ will be pleased. If Christ would come today He would say to all of the churches, I never knew you.
> > You are taking the Word literal
You got that right. I am taking the Word literally. It means what it says. That is for sure. Any other tie in that we can gather from it must take second place.
2Ti_3:16 says, "All scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness".
> > According to Ezekiel 47 there are five levels of depth to the Word of God.
Was "Ezekiel 47" a typo? It says nothing about five levels of depth to the Word of God.
Eze 47:1-23 says, "Afterward he brought me again unto the door of the house; and, behold, waters issued out from under the threshold of the house eastward: for the forefront of the house stood toward the east, and the waters came down from under from the right side of the house, at the south side of the altar. 2 Then brought he me out of the way of the gate northward, and led me about the way without unto the utter gate by the way that looketh eastward; and, behold, there ran out waters on the right side. 3 And when the man that had the line in his hand went forth eastward, he measured a thousand cubits, and he brought me through the waters; the waters were to the ankles. 4 Again he measured a thousand, and brought me through the waters; the waters were to the knees. Again he measured a thousand, and brought me through; the waters were to the loins. 5 Afterward he measured a thousand; and it was a river that I could not pass over: for the waters were risen, waters to swim in, a river that could not be passed over. 6 And he said unto me, Son of man, hast thou seen this? Then he brought me, and caused me to return to the brink of the river. 7 Now when I had returned, behold, at the bank of the river were very many trees on the one side and on the other. 8 Then said he unto me, These waters issue out toward the east country, and go down into the desert, and go into the sea: which being brought forth into the sea, the waters shall be healed. 9 And it shall come to pass, that every thing that liveth, which moveth, whithersoever the rivers shall come, shall live: and there shall be a very great multitude of fish, because these waters shall come thither: for they shall be healed; and every thing shall live whither the river cometh. 10 And it shall come to pass, that the fishers shall stand upon it from Engedi even unto Eneglaim; they shall be a place to spread forth nets; their fish shall be according to their kinds, as the fish of the great sea, exceeding many. 11 But the miry places thereof and the marishes thereof shall not be healed; they shall be given to salt. 12 And by the river upon the bank thereof, on this side and on that side, shall grow all trees for meat, whose leaf shall not fade, neither shall the fruit thereof be consumed: it shall bring forth new fruit according to his months, because their waters they issued out of the sanctuary: and the fruit thereof shall be for meat, and the leaf thereof for medicine. 13 Thus saith the Lord GOD; This shall be the border, whereby ye shall inherit the land according to the twelve tribes of Israel: Joseph shall have two portions. 14 And ye shall inherit it, one as well as another: concerning the which I lifted up mine hand to give it unto your fathers: and this land shall fall unto you for inheritance. 15 And this shall be the border of the land toward the north side, from the great sea, the way of Hethlon, as men go to Zedad; 16 Hamath, Berothah, Sibraim, which is between the border of Damascus and the border of Hamath; Hazarhatticon, which is by the coast of Hauran. 17 And the border from the sea shall be Hazarenan, the border of Damascus, and the north northward, and the border of Hamath. And this is the north side. 18 And the east side ye shall measure from Hauran, and from Damascus, and from Gilead, and from the land of Israel by Jordan, from the border unto the east sea. And this is the east side. 19 And the south side southward, from Tamar even to the waters of strife in Kadesh, the river to the great sea. And this is the south side southward. 20 The west side also shall be the great sea from the border, till a man come over against Hamath. This is the west side. 21 So shall ye divide this land unto you according to the tribes of Israel. 22 And it shall come to pass, that ye shall divide it by lot for an inheritance unto you, and to the strangers that sojourn among you, which shall beget children among you: and they shall be unto you as born in the country among the children of Israel; they shall have inheritance with you among the tribes of Israel. 23 And it shall come to pass, that in what tribe the stranger sojourneth, there shall ye give him his inheritance, saith the Lord GOD."
> > All seven churches of Revelation are still with us today, under new name but the same spirit.
Since "The Revelation of Jesus Christ" is organized around the Rapture that is "at hand" in both the first and last chapters, those church groups apply to today. Jesus worked in pieces of their past so we can trace their development from the first century to this century. Those messages were given in Christ's monologue to the churches. They are 100% true as they stand.
Rev 1:3 says, "Blessed is he that readeth, and they that hear the words of this prophecy, and keep those things which are written therein: for THE TIME IS AT HAND" (i.e., the time of the First-Trump Rapture is at hand now).
Rev 22:10 says, "And he saith unto me, Seal not the sayings of the prophecy of this book: for THE TIME IS AT HAND."
"The Revelation of Jesus Christ" is organized around the First-Trump Rapture that we are approaching today. Revelation is specifically written for us.
Rev. 1:19 says, "Write the things which thou hast seen (i.e., before the Rapture), and the things which are (at the time of the Rapture), and the things which shall be HEREAFTER" (after the Rapture).
Hereafter starts after the First-Trump Rapture. Rev. 4:1 says, "After this I looked, and, behold, a door was opened in heaven: and the first voice which I heard was as it were of a trumpet talking with me; which said, Come up hither, and I will shew thee things which must be HEREAFTER."
> > Therefore according to Zechariah 13:8-9, only one-third of all who claims Christ as Lord and savior will be saved. Two-thirds of all who claims Christ as Lord and savior will be cut off to die.
It doesn't say that two parts of the BELIEVERS will be cut off.
Zec 13:8,9 says, "And it shall come to pass, that in all the land (i.e., Israel), saith the LORD, two parts therein shall be cut off and die; but the third shall be left therein. 9 And I will bring the third part through the fire (i.e., God's wrath), and will refine them as silver is refined (i.e., with fire), and will try them as gold is tried (with fire): they shall call on my name, and I WILL HEAR THEM: I WILL SAY, IT IS MY PEOPLE: AND THEY SHALL SAY, The LORD is my God."
Joh 3:15-18 says, "That WHOSOEVER BELIEVETH IN HIM SHOULD NOT PERISH, BUT HAVE ETERNAL LIFE. 16 For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that WHOSOEVER BELIEVETH IN HIM SHOULD NOT PERISH, BUT HAVE EVERLASTING LIFE. 17 For God sent not his Son into the world to condemn the world; but that the world through him might be saved. 18 HE THAT BELIEVETH ON HIM IS NOT CONDEMNED: but he that believeth not is condemned already, because he hath not believed in the name of the only begotten Son of God."
I am certain that I have eternal life. I accepted Jesus as my Saviour. My husband, also a believer, died Dec. 27, 2011, when 87. On the following April 2, he came to visit me in his celestial body. I asked him if he was 30 or 33. He said, "33". I asked him if we could be together forever. He said, "Yes."
Thank you, Lord, for sending him to let me know. That was what I needed to know. I am happy with how my life is turning out. I said, "Yes" to Jesus and "Yes" to Ed when he asked me to marry him. Now, I will get to be with both of them forever. I can't think of anything better.
> > If Christ would come today He would say to all of the churches, I never knew you.
No way! If we believe, he dwells in us. He is able to save to the uttermost.
Heb_7:25 says, "Wherefore he is able also to SAVE THEM TO THE UTTERMOST that come unto God by him, seeing he ever liveth to make intercession for them."
Joh_14:17 says, "Even the Spirit of truth; whom the world cannot receive, because it seeth him not, neither knoweth him: but ye know him; for HE dwelleth with you, and SHALL BE IN YOU."
Joh_14:20 says, "At that day ye shall know that I am in my Father, and ye in me, and I IN YOU."
Joh_15:4 says, "Abide in me, and I IN YOU. As the branch cannot bear fruit of itself, except it abide in the vine; no more can ye, except ye abide in me."
Joh_14:17 says, "Even the Spirit of truth; whom the world cannot receive, because it seeth him not, neither knoweth him: but ye know him; for he dwelleth with you, and SHALL BE IN YOU."
Joh_14:20 says, "At that day ye shall know that I am in my Father, and ye in me, and I IN YOU."
Joh_15:4 says, "Abide in me, and I IN YOU. As the branch cannot bear fruit of itself, except it abide in the vine; no more can ye, except ye abide in me. "
Eph_4:6 says, "One God and Father of all, who is above all, and through all, and IN YOU ALL."
Col_1:27 says, "To whom God would make known what is the riches of the glory of this mystery among the Gentiles; which is CHRIST IN YOU, the hope of glory".
1Jn_4:4 says, "Ye are of God, little children, and have overcome them: because greater is HE THAT IS IN YOU, than he that is in the world."
Rev 3:10-13 says, "Because thou hast kept the word of my patience (hupomone, cheerful hopeful endurance, patient waiting), I ALSO will keep thee from the hour of temptation, which shall come upon all the world, to try them that dwell upon the earth. 11 BEHOLD, I COME QUICKLY: HOLD THAT FAST WHICH THOU HAST, THAT NO MAN TAKE THY CROWN. 12 HIM THAT OVERCOMETH WILL I MAKE A PILLAR IN THE TEMPLE OF MY GOD, and he shall go no more out: and I will write upon him the name of my God, and the name of the city of my God, which is new Jerusalem, which cometh down out of heaven from my God: and I will write upon him my new name. 13 He that hath an ear, let him hear what the Spirit saith unto the churches."
The Temple had two pillars in front of it. To me, they represent the two Raptures. The First-Trump Rapture will take us to Heaven before "the hour of temptation", probably the temptation to take the Mark of the Beast. If we did that, we would be lost.
Rev_14:11 says, "And the smoke of their torment ascendeth up for ever and ever: and they have no rest day nor night, who worship the beast and his image, and whosoever receiveth the mark of his name." Better to starve to death than to take the Mark of the Beast. Agape
INCOMING EMAIL, RE: THE SEVEN SEALS
Taking the word literal even the ungodly people without the Spirit of God can do what you are doing. Christ fulfilled everything concerning Him that was written of Him in the Law and the Prophets, Luke 24:44.
He was crucified and placed in the tomb for three days and three nights and the Spirit of God raised Him. Therefore if Christ is Spirit form then why would His Word be literal?
The Jews tried to make the written Word literal and they missed their Messiah's coming, the churches are doing the same thing as the Jews did and the churches will miss the return of the King of kings.
The Jews though they were holy and righteous because they followed the law to the letter and taught the same.
We must receive every Word by the Spirit and not literal.
Yahshua did not preach the literal Word that is to say the literal Law, He taught in parables the Spirit of God gave Him.
Christ taught ONLY what He heard His Father say, the Jews did not understand because what Christ said was not written in the law or the Prophets. The Jews made the mistake of receiving everything of the law and the Prophets literal, and the churches are making the same mistake. He is risen He is Spirit and His Word is Spirit.
Pro 30:4-6 says, "Who hath ascended up into heaven, or descended? who hath gathered the wind in his fists? who hath bound the waters in a garment? who hath established all the ends of the earth? what is his name, and what is his son's name, if thou canst tell? 5 Every word of God is pure: he is a shield unto them that put their trust in him. 6 Add thou not unto his words, lest he reprove thee, and thou be found a liar."
Mat_4:4 says, "But he answered and said, It is written, Man shall not live by bread alone, but by every word that proceedeth out of the mouth of God."
> > Taking the word literal even the ungodly people without the Spirit of God can do what you are doing. Christ fulfilled everything concerning Him that was written of Him in the Law and the Prophets, Luke 24:44.
Yes. Jesus fulfilled scripture literally, and 2Ti_3:16 says, "All scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness".
Pro 30:4-5 says, "Who hath ascended up into heaven, or descended? who hath gathered the wind in his fists? who hath bound the waters in a garment? who hath established all the ends of the earth? what is his name (YHWH), and what is his son's name (JESUS), if thou canst tell? 5 Every word of God is pure: he is a shield unto them that put their trust in him. 6 ADD THOU NOT UNTO HIS WORDS. LEST HE REPROVE THEE, AND THOU BE FOUND A LIAR."
Rev 22:18,19 says, "For I testify unto every man that heareth the words of the prophecy of this book, IF ANY MAN SHALL ADD UNTO THESE THINGS, GOD SHALL ADD UNTO HIM THE PLAGUES THAT ARE WRITTN IN THIS BOOK: 19 AND IF ANY MAN SHALL TAKE AWAY FROM THE WORDS OF THE BOOK OF THIS PROPHECY, GOD SHALL TAKE AWAY HIS PART OUT OF THE BOOK OF LIFE, AND OUT OF THE HOLY CITY, AND FROM THE THING WHICH ARE WRITTEN IN THIS BOOK."
If you do not accept what the plain word of God says, you can make it say whatever comes into your mind, twisted or not. Satan would be glad to assist anyone pulling a supposed meaning out of thin air. The only solid ground we have to stand on is the literal meaning of the Scriptures. The original versions say what they mean.
However, sometimes translators do not understand what was meant and we have to look up the original word meanings to figure out what it is talking about. I had to do that in Ezekiel 1 and 10.
For instance, Ezekiel looked up in the sky and saw the Sun, a fire enfolding itself. Around it were four orbiting planets. Their orbits looked like wheels within wheels.
Eze 1:5 says, "Also out of the midst thereof came the likeness of four living creatures (chay, lively things, i.e., four flying things). And this was their appearance; they had the likeness of a man (adam, meaning red earth)."
All four had wheels, i.e., orbits, and Earth was one of them. They represent the four terrestrial planets, Mercury, Venus, Earth and Mars that orbit the Sun. All four have red earth, i.e., red clay, on them. It sure is easy to see on Mars.
Eze 1:15 is plain. It says, "Now as I beheld the living creatures (lively things), behold one wheel (i.e., orbit) upon the EARTH by the living creatures, with his four faces."
The four faces represent the four directions. These faces were on the flags put at the compass points when Israel camped around the Tabernacle. The lion stood for east. The man stood for south. The ox stood for west. The eagle stood for north.
It took me over 7 years to figure out what Ezekiel 1 and 10 meant. Thank you Lord that other parts of Scripture are not that hard to understand.
The things concerning Jesus were to be taken literally, and he fulfilled them all literally.
Luk 24:44-51 says, "And he said unto them, These are the words which I spake unto you, while I was yet with you, that all things must be fulfilled, which were written in the law of Moses, and in the prophets, and in the psalms, concerning me. 45 Then opened he their understanding, that they might understand the scriptures, 46 And said unto them, Thus it is written, and thus it behoved Christ to suffer, and to rise from the dead the third day: 47 And that repentance and remission of sins should be preached in his name among all nations, beginning at Jerusalem. 48 And ye are witnesses of these things. 49 And, behold, I send the promise of my Father upon you: but tarry ye in the city of Jerusalem, until ye be endued with power from on high. 50 And he led them out as far as to Bethany, and he lifted up his hands, and blessed them. 51 And it came to pass, while he blessed them, he was parted from them, and carried up into heaven."
Act 1:7-11 says, "And he said unto them, It is not for you to know the times or the seasons, which the Father hath put in his own power. 8 But ye shall receive power, after that the Holy Ghost is come upon you: and ye shall be witnesses unto me both in Jerusalem, and in all Judaea, and in Samaria, and unto the uttermost part of the earth. 9 And when he had spoken these things, while they beheld, he was taken up; and a cloud received him out of their sight. 10 And while they looked stedfastly toward heaven as he went up, behold, two men (probably Moses and Elijah) stood by them in white apparel; 11 Which also said, Ye men of Galilee, why stand ye gazing up into heaven? this same Jesus, which is taken up from you into heaven, shall so come in like manner as ye have seen him go into heaven."
The Holy Ghost came upon them literally on Pentecost. We find out that we can take the Lord at his word. However, we are not told exactly when the Rapture will take place. I keep trying to guess when it might be. I figure it has to take place soon. According to the parable of the fig tree, those born in 1967 are the last generation. 1967 + 48.33 (Mt 1:17) = 2015.33.
The anniversary of Jesus' ascension is coming up May 29. The number 29 means departure, and it will be Iyar 29/May 29. The next day will not be aligned like that. It will be Sivan 1/May 30. I hope we will depart on this anniversary of his ascension. The wedding-ring eclipse was on Nisan 29/April 29. I'm hoping that was a sign of our departure. Agape
INCOMING EMAIL, RE: Re: Weather Disasters <= Sun-Drawn Dwarf Star [Planet X]
1) You're wrong about the ability to see it. It emits infrared light, and
thus, standard telescopes cannot detect it.
2) You're wrong when you say that it has not been seen. NASA has
seen it recently with their South Pole infrared telescope facility.
NASA has also seen it with their Chandra X-ray Observatory Satellite.
Also, NASA had seen and photographed it 34 years ago with their
Infrared Astronomical Satellite. You did not read the two newspaper
articles I sent. When you read them, you may realize that you did
not study the evidence before making your judgment. Please read carefully:
The NEW YORK TIMES: Incoming dwarf star (Planet X) SOUGHT by NASA
The WASHINGTON POST: Incoming dwarf star (Planet X) DISCOVERED by NASA
I read both articles. I just don't believe a star, another burning Sun, is orbiting in our Solar System. How it could be dark and unseen is beyond my understanding of what a star is.
As for a planet X, we have seen 67 moons orbiting Saturn. Twenty-four are called regular satellites. Thirty-seven are called irregular satellites. I see no reason that we could not see an extra planet with ordinary telescopes, even if it radiates infrared light. We also have Cassini out there photographing that area. It has gotten some amazing pictures of Saturn and Enceladus (which sprays water geysers into the air to replenish Saturn's icy rings). I think Cassini would have photographed "planet X" if it was anywhere near Saturn.
Eze 28:12-16 shows us that in the beginning, there were 10 planets in our Solar System. Psa_8:3 says, "When I consider thy heavens (10 planets), the work of thy fingers" (i.e., 10 fingers and 10 original planets).
Eze 28:12-16 says, "take up a lamentation upon the king (i.e., Satan) of Tyrus (meaning the rock, i.e., first the planet Rahab, now our Asteroid Belt, or Wormwood, Satan's home at the present time), and say unto him (i.e., Satan), Thus saith the Lord GOD; Thou sealest up the sum, full of wisdom, and perfect in beauty. 13 THOU HAST BEEN IN EDEN the garden of God; every precious stone was thy covering (mesukkah, garniture, from sakak, to join together), the sardius (1. Mercury), topaz (2. Venus), and the diamond (3. Earth), the beryl (4. Mars), the onyx (5. Rahab), and the jasper (6. Jupiter), the sapphire (meaning dear to the planet (7) Saturn, from the Sanskrit, Sani, Saturn, and priya, dear), the emerald (8. Uranus), and the carbuncle (9. Neptune), and gold (10. Pluto): the workmanship of thy tabrets and of thy pipes was prepared in thee in the day that thou wast created. 14 Thou art the anointed cherub that covereth (sakak, joins together, i.e., Rehab joined the terrestrial planets to the giant planets); and I have set thee so: thou wast upon the holy mountain of God (i.e., on Saturn); thou hast walked up and down in the midst of the stones of fire (i.e., on Rahab). 15 Thou wast perfect in thy ways from the day that thou wast created, till iniquity was found in thee. 16 By the multitude of thy merchandise they have filled the midst of thee with violence, and thou hast sinned: therefore I will cast thee as profane out of the mountain of God (i.e., Saturn): and I will destroy thee, O covering cherub, from the midst of the stones of fire" (i.e., first from the planet Rahab, later from the asteroid Wormwood).
The planets look like burning lamps in the sky. According to Josephus, a Pharisee priest, the candlestick represented (1) Sun, (2)Mercury, (3) Venus, (4) Earth, (5) Mars, (6) Jupiter and (7) Saturn. (Ant. III. VI. 7). Rahab had become the Asteroid Belt by that time.
I see no way of putting another planet in the lineup that the Son of God created, especially near Saturn. His throne is on the "sapphire" planet, Saturn.
Eze 1:1 says, "...the heavens were opened, and I saw visions of GOD."
Eze. 1:26-28 says, "And above the firmament (expanse of space) that was over their heads (i.e., farther out in space than the terrestrial planets) was the likeness (symbolic language) of a THRONE, as the appearance of a SAPPHIRE stone (Jesus' September birthstone, meaning Heaven): and upon the likeness of the throne was the likeness as the appearance of a MAN (i.e., THE ONLY GOD/MAN IS JESUS) above upon it. 27 And I saw as the colour of amber (Saturn is the amber planet), as the appearance of fire round about within it, from the appearance of his loins (i.e., from the equator) even upward, and from the appearance of his loins (i.e., from the equator) even downward, I saw as it were the appearance of fire, and it had brightness round about (i.e., Saturn's rings). 28 As the appearance of the bow (rainbow) that is in the cloud in the day of rain, so was the appearance of the brightness round about. This was the appearance of the likeness of the glory of the LORD."
God's heaven has a halo.
By the time Adam was created, Satan's planet Rahab had been reduced to asteroids.
Gen 3:24 says, "So he drove out the man; and he placed at the east of the garden of Eden Cherubims (i.e., terrestrial planets), and a flaming sword (i.e., Satan's asteroid Wormwood) which turned every way (it rotated and orbited), to keep the way (derek, pathway) of (i.e., probably to) the tree of life" (which is on Saturn). Agape
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